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Bass Wood for jam chuck
I turn like to turn boxes. To turn the chuck marks off I use a jam chuck. I
was having a problem with the boxes cracking when I would jam the piece onto a piece of hard wood. One day I reached for a piece of wood to make a jam chuck out of and grabbed bass wood. I immediately had the thought that it might give a bit when I jammed the box on and of course that is exactly what it does. I haven't had a box crack since using it. Until last night... I didn't have a piece of bass wood cut for the lathe so I used a piece of hardwood that I used to use (I did the bottom with bass wood). I carefully turned the hardwood until the Redwood Burl would go on. There was less than a 1/64th of an inch to go so I popped the bottom with my palm and there was that ugly sound of a crack. I couldn't find it so I continued to finish the lid. It wasn't until later when I examined the lid with my wife that I saw the damage. Just a hairline crack but it's there. Tick me off! I'll be careful to have bass wood on hand for the next box I turn! If you aren't using it then give it a try. Good stuff! Bob Darrah West Linn, Oregon |
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Excellent advise Bob. Yes, I have had the same cracking problem. I am
going to use basswood and I will give some poplar a try too. Thanks Edward |
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Edward
When I read the initial post, I thought - hey maybe Poplar would work for this as well as it has the tendency to compress but is still a hardwood. So when you said you would try Poplar too - you stole a bit of my thunder! Ray "edward tabachek" wrote in message ... Excellent advise Bob. Yes, I have had the same cracking problem. I am going to use basswood and I will give some poplar a try too. Thanks Edward |
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Poplar - as in aspen, or its cousin cottonwood, versus what's sold as "tulip
poplar" would be an excellent choice, as it has nicely interlocked -splinter-free grain. Traditional use here was as the floor of carts or stoneboats, where something that would dent rather than break was preferred. Been using it as vise jaws for a long time now. Also for the wooden jaws on my original "Masterchuck." "edward tabachek" wrote in message ... Excellent advise Bob. Yes, I have had the same cracking problem. I am going to use basswood and I will give some poplar a try too. Thanks Edward |
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When you referred to bass wood to you mean American Linden?
"Bob Darrah" wrote in message ... I turn like to turn boxes. To turn the chuck marks off I use a jam chuck. I was having a problem with the boxes cracking when I would jam the piece onto a piece of hard wood. One day I reached for a piece of wood to make a jam chuck out of and grabbed bass wood. I immediately had the thought that it might give a bit when I jammed the box on and of course that is exactly what it does. I haven't had a box crack since using it. Until last night... I didn't have a piece of bass wood cut for the lathe so I used a piece of hardwood that I used to use (I did the bottom with bass wood). I carefully turned the hardwood until the Redwood Burl would go on. There was less than a 1/64th of an inch to go so I popped the bottom with my palm and there was that ugly sound of a crack. I couldn't find it so I continued to finish the lid. It wasn't until later when I examined the lid with my wife that I saw the damage. Just a hairline crack but it's there. Tick me off! I'll be careful to have bass wood on hand for the next box I turn! If you aren't using it then give it a try. Good stuff! Bob Darrah West Linn, Oregon |
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My 2 cents worth...
Softer woods, with open grain work best with jam chucks. I use maple and walnut a lot because I have a lot of it. Rather than try for a real snug fit, you can turn the tenon so that the whatever you're jaming on will just fit...but you don't have to force it on. Then wet the tenon (saliva works well). This will expnd the wood just slightly and you should have a nice snug fit. rr George wrote: Poplar - as in aspen, or its cousin cottonwood, versus what's sold as "tulip poplar" would be an excellent choice, as it has nicely interlocked -splinter-free grain. Traditional use here was as the floor of carts or stoneboats, where something that would dent rather than break was preferred. Been using it as vise jaws for a long time now. Also for the wooden jaws on my original "Masterchuck." "edward tabachek" wrote in message ... Excellent advise Bob. Yes, I have had the same cracking problem. I am going to use basswood and I will give some poplar a try too. Thanks Edward |
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I'll get some Poplar and try that, too. Especially since it is half the
price of Bass Wood. I watched Chris Stott do his jam chuck thing on all of the boxes he turns but could never get it just right. You can here the air pop out as he gets the final snugness. I can do that with the bass wood where I couldn't with other soft woods. But I will try Poplar. Thanks for all of the wise comments. Bob "Bob Darrah" wrote in message ... I turn like to turn boxes. To turn the chuck marks off I use a jam chuck. I was having a problem with the boxes cracking when I would jam the piece onto a piece of hard wood. One day I reached for a piece of wood to make a jam chuck out of and grabbed bass wood. I immediately had the thought that it might give a bit when I jammed the box on and of course that is exactly what it does. I haven't had a box crack since using it. Until last night... I didn't have a piece of bass wood cut for the lathe so I used a piece of hardwood that I used to use (I did the bottom with bass wood). I carefully turned the hardwood until the Redwood Burl would go on. There was less than a 1/64th of an inch to go so I popped the bottom with my palm and there was that ugly sound of a crack. I couldn't find it so I continued to finish the lid. It wasn't until later when I examined the lid with my wife that I saw the damage. Just a hairline crack but it's there. Tick me off! I'll be careful to have bass wood on hand for the next box I turn! If you aren't using it then give it a try. Good stuff! Bob Darrah West Linn, Oregon |
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It may be...but the name on the wall at the lumber yard says Bass Wood, 16/4
and 12/4. Bob "Denis Marier" wrote in message ... When you referred to bass wood to you mean American Linden? "Bob Darrah" wrote in message ... I turn like to turn boxes. To turn the chuck marks off I use a jam chuck. I was having a problem with the boxes cracking when I would jam the piece onto a piece of hard wood. One day I reached for a piece of wood to make a jam chuck out of and grabbed bass wood. I immediately had the thought that it might give a bit when I jammed the box on and of course that is exactly what it does. I haven't had a box crack since using it. Until last night... I didn't have a piece of bass wood cut for the lathe so I used a piece of hardwood that I used to use (I did the bottom with bass wood). I carefully turned the hardwood until the Redwood Burl would go on. There was less than a 1/64th of an inch to go so I popped the bottom with my palm and there was that ugly sound of a crack. I couldn't find it so I continued to finish the lid. It wasn't until later when I examined the lid with my wife that I saw the damage. Just a hairline crack but it's there. Tick me off! I'll be careful to have bass wood on hand for the next box I turn! If you aren't using it then give it a try. Good stuff! Bob Darrah West Linn, Oregon |
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Cotton wood may work, and I know of someone who has a whole yard full. ;))
FOT (free on the taking) -- Richard, Richard L. Rombold WIZARD WOODWORKING 489 N. 32nd. St. Springfield, Or .97478 http://www.PictureTrail.com/gallery/...ername=thewizz "Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup" " |
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You're funnin' me, Richard!
Bob "Richard L." wrote in message ... Cotton wood may work, and I know of someone who has a whole yard full. ;)) FOT (free on the taking) -- Richard, Richard L. Rombold WIZARD WOODWORKING 489 N. 32nd. St. Springfield, Or .97478 http://www.PictureTrail.com/gallery/...ername=thewizz "Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup" " |
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Not me, I wouldn't do that! Now what size did you what?
-- Richard, Richard L. Rombold WIZARD WOODWORKING 489 N. 32nd. St. Springfield, Or .97478 http://www.PictureTrail.com/gallery/...ername=thewizz "Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup" "Bob Darrah" wrote in message ... You're funnin' me, Richard! Bob "Richard L." wrote in message ... Cotton wood may work, and I know of someone who has a whole yard full. ;)) FOT (free on the taking) |
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:48:37 -0700, "Bob Darrah"
wrote: I turn like to turn boxes. To turn the chuck marks off I use a jam chuck. I was having a problem with the boxes cracking when I would jam the piece onto a piece of hard wood. depending on the shape of the box, you might try jamming it INTO a recess, rather than over a tenon...I used to do this a lot before I switched to chucks. Also, in either case, try making a less than tight fit, and using a soft paper towel to pad it to just the right snugness. (I also use a very small rubber tip, like a crutch tip, over an insert in my live center in the tailstock to put some pressure on the box when I don't feel totally safe.....the small area under it is easily sanded away.... |
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Mahogany is my favorite. And an endgrain piece makes a more consistant jam chuck than side grain. I glue pieces together if I have to. Soft Maple is also good. The worst is to jam fit a Banksia pod onto another piece of Banksia pod! CD boulder CO |
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"cindy drozda" wrote in message ... SNIP........ The worst is to jam fit a Banksia pod onto another piece of Banksia pod! =================== Cindy, Do you sell tickets to that?? {:-) Ken |
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