I was trying to decide which coring system to get. Being that I have a Jet
JWL-1236 and am fairly new to it, I was having some trouble deciding. I'm
looking at the McNaughton System, and the Woodcut Bowl Saver. After reading
some of this group's archives, I've found that perhaps my lathe is a bit
underpowered for the McNaughton System. So, leaning toward the Woodcut Bowl
Saver, I have a few questions for those who have one, and hopefully, those
who also own the same lathe as I. I'd like to hear some comments about the
Bowlsaver's use on underpowered lathes. Can I expect it to work well with my
Jet, or is this a pipe dream that I would be able to use ANY of this type
tool on my lathe? Also, I'm a bit confused from the Bowlsaver's website, I
can't decide what comes in the kit. Is it just one size tool (for a single
size core), or is it a complete set like the McNaughton System? Also, to
simplify my ordering process, if I decide to go that way, which size tool
post does my lathe have?


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"Alan Van Art" wrote: (clip) I'd like to hear some comments about the
Bowlsaver's use on underpowered lathes. Can I expect it to work well with my
Jet, (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I bought the Bowlsaver when I had a Jet 1236 lathe, and it worked quite
well. I later up-graded to the small McNaughton system, and I was also able
to make it work, but it was marginal. I made a few very small nested bowls
with it.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
..(clip) Is it just one size tool (for a single size core), or is it a
complete set like the McNaughton System?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The Bowlsaver uses two cutters, one for small bowls, and the other for bowls
up to 12". The one you are not using is reversed in its clamp. On a lathe
with a 12" swing, you would not be able to make use of the wide range of
McNaughton blades.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(clip)which size tool post does my lathe have?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You have a 1" toolpost.

Hi Alan,
If you some day upgrade to a larger lathe, you can take the
McNaughton system with you. It will work on most size lathes. I got
burned by buying a Oneway system for my Nova, then I up-graded to a
larger lathe and I was stuck buying a new Oneway base unit to fit the
new lathe, costing $187.00 It took a long time to find someone that
was intrested in purchasing the old base unit.
The McNaughton system is the coring system of choise in my circle of
friends.

Curtis Thompson





"Alan Van Art" wrote in message news:JWaUc.18071$ZY3.16917@trndny08...
I was trying to decide which coring system to get. Being that I have a Jet
JWL-1236 and am fairly new to it, I was having some trouble deciding. I'm
looking at the McNaughton System, and the Woodcut Bowl Saver. After reading
some of this group's archives, I've found that perhaps my lathe is a bit
underpowered for the McNaughton System. So, leaning toward the Woodcut Bowl
Saver, I have a few questions for those who have one, and hopefully, those
who also own the same lathe as I. I'd like to hear some comments about the
Bowlsaver's use on underpowered lathes. Can I expect it to work well with my
Jet, or is this a pipe dream that I would be able to use ANY of this type
tool on my lathe? Also, I'm a bit confused from the Bowlsaver's website, I
can't decide what comes in the kit. Is it just one size tool (for a single
size core), or is it a complete set like the McNaughton System? Also, to
simplify my ordering process, if I decide to go that way, which size tool
post does my lathe have?


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McNaughton system (med. size) is more versatile, but there are a couple of
wrinkles...

power - can be done with some care on a 1 hp machine; see the posts from the
ingenious guy on this list, apologies - name forgotten - who worked out a
kind of pulsing system

clearance between top of banjo and lathe centre - some lathes don't have
enough, so contact the McNaughton importer/dealer and check

Ern

"Alan Van Art" wrote in message
news:JWaUc.18071$ZY3.16917@trndny08...
I was trying to decide which coring system to get. Being that I have a Jet
JWL-1236 and am fairly new to it, I was having some trouble deciding. I'm
looking at the McNaughton System, and the Woodcut Bowl Saver. After
reading
some of this group's archives, I've found that perhaps my lathe is a bit
underpowered for the McNaughton System. So, leaning toward the Woodcut
Bowl
Saver, I have a few questions for those who have one, and hopefully, those
who also own the same lathe as I. I'd like to hear some comments about the
Bowlsaver's use on underpowered lathes. Can I expect it to work well with
my
Jet, or is this a pipe dream that I would be able to use ANY of this type
tool on my lathe? Also, I'm a bit confused from the Bowlsaver's website, I
can't decide what comes in the kit. Is it just one size tool (for a single
size core), or is it a complete set like the McNaughton System? Also, to
simplify my ordering process, if I decide to go that way, which size tool
post does my lathe have?


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Hello Ern,

That chap would be me... :-) Several years ago I published an article on
using the Kelton Centre Saver and then later published my technique for
using the Kelton on low power lathes. I refer to the technique as "Fluid
Pulsed" to indicate the smooth, fluid pulses of the blade to accommodate for
low power motors. I developed the technique because I was frequently asked
to demonstrate use of the Kelton Centre Saver, on small 1HP lathes (My
studio lathe features a 3HP motor).

If anyone would like a copy of the original article, as well as the low
power technique, please send me an email. I will have a new and updated
article in the English "Woodturning" magazine in the next few months that
profiles my long-term test results and techniques for using the Kelton
Centre Saver, The Oneway Easy Core and the Woodcut Bowl Saver systems.

The article will include my latest techniques for squeezing the most out of
these tools, with large and small lathe motors. I will also show some nifty
modifications you can make you really make these puppies sing... Take care
and all the best to you and yours!

--
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Steven D. Russell
Eurowood Werks Woodturning Studio
The Woodlands, Texas

Machinery, Tool and Product Testing for the Woodworking and Woodturning
Industries

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Shipment
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On 8/18/04 12:14 AM, in article
, "Ern Reeders"
wrote:

McNaughton system (med. size) is more versatile, but there are a couple of
wrinkles...

power - can be done with some care on a 1 hp machine; see the posts from the
ingenious guy on this list, apologies - name forgotten - who worked out a
kind of pulsing system

clearance between top of banjo and lathe centre - some lathes don't have
enough, so contact the McNaughton importer/dealer and check

Ern

"Alan Van Art" wrote in message
news:JWaUc.18071$ZY3.16917@trndny08...
I was trying to decide which coring system to get. Being that I have a Jet
JWL-1236 and am fairly new to it, I was having some trouble deciding. I'm
looking at the McNaughton System, and the Woodcut Bowl Saver. After
reading
some of this group's archives, I've found that perhaps my lathe is a bit
underpowered for the McNaughton System. So, leaning toward the Woodcut
Bowl
Saver, I have a few questions for those who have one, and hopefully, those
who also own the same lathe as I. I'd like to hear some comments about the
Bowlsaver's use on underpowered lathes. Can I expect it to work well with
my
Jet, or is this a pipe dream that I would be able to use ANY of this type
tool on my lathe? Also, I'm a bit confused from the Bowlsaver's website, I
can't decide what comes in the kit. Is it just one size tool (for a single
size core), or is it a complete set like the McNaughton System? Also, to
simplify my ordering process, if I decide to go that way, which size tool
post does my lathe have?


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"Steven D. Russell" wrote: (clip) I will also show some
nifty modifications you can make you really make these puppies sing...(clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Would you be kind enough to post a note here when that article appears, so
we can watch for it? Thanks.

"Alan Van Art" wrote in message news:JWaUc.18071$ZY3.16917@trndny08...
I was trying to decide which coring system to get. Being that I have a Jet
JWL-1236 and am fairly new to it, I was having some trouble deciding. I'm
looking at the McNaughton System, and the Woodcut Bowl Saver. After reading
some of this group's archives, I've found that perhaps my lathe is a bit
underpowered for the McNaughton System.

Check out the following where you will see some positive comments
about coring on low powered lathes:
http://www.enter.net/~ultradad/bowlcoring.html

"Alan Van Art" wrote in message news:JWaUc.18071$ZY3.16917@trndny08...
I was trying to decide which coring system to get. Being that I have a Jet
JWL-1236 and am fairly new to it, I was having some trouble deciding. I'm
looking at the McNaughton System, and the Woodcut Bowl Saver. After reading
some of this group's archives, I've found that perhaps my lathe is a bit
underpowered for the McNaughton System.

Check out the following where you will see some positive comments
about coring on low powered lathes:
http://www.enter.net/~ultradad/bowlcoring.html

there is a new mike mahoney video on using the McNaughton system

I should get mine if a couple days. It is supposed to be really good


Alan Van Art wrote:

I was trying to decide which coring system to get. Being that I have a Jet
JWL-1236 and am fairly new to it, I was having some trouble deciding. I'm
looking at the McNaughton System, and the Woodcut Bowl Saver. After reading
some of this group's archives, I've found that perhaps my lathe is a bit
underpowered for the McNaughton System. So, leaning toward the Woodcut Bowl
Saver, I have a few questions for those who have one, and hopefully, those
who also own the same lathe as I. I'd like to hear some comments about the
Bowlsaver's use on underpowered lathes. Can I expect it to work well with my
Jet, or is this a pipe dream that I would be able to use ANY of this type
tool on my lathe? Also, I'm a bit confused from the Bowlsaver's website, I
can't decide what comes in the kit. Is it just one size tool (for a single
size core), or is it a complete set like the McNaughton System? Also, to
simplify my ordering process, if I decide to go that way, which size tool
post does my lathe have?


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Woodcut bowlsaver: In reply to he recent post.
Our bowlsaver will work extreemly well on lathes from 1/2 hp upwards. The
two main benifits are 1) The bowlsaver attaches to the tailstock as well as
the tool post, thus dividing the force between the two.
2) The Bowlsaver works from a pivot point (as does the Oneway) which enables
the user to accurately determine the point of entry and depth the cutter
enters the wood.
This is essential for maximum use of the wood.
We use only two blades which remove bowls 3"- 12" from a 16" blank, simply
by moving the point of entry anywhere accross the bowl face. Depth of cut is
achieved simply by moving the unit closer to or away from the bowl blank.
Our Woodcut bowlsaver is the most efficient unit for coring from a bowl
blank and two Kiwi professionals have cored more then 1000 bowls in the last
18 months using the one set of blades.

If you dont believe me I have some photos
Our system comes with an instructional video and is idealy suited to the Jet
or any lathe. The tool post is threaded in and you simply upgrade the post
when changing lathes.
I am available for feedback
--
Ken Port
Sales and marketing manager

Woodcut 2000 Ltd
Ph Int 64 7 888 7474
Fax Int 64 7 888 7174
Email sales@woodcut-tools,com
"william kossack" wrote in message
news:4HTUc.34346$mD.8095@attbi_s02...
there is a new mike mahoney video on using the McNaughton system

I should get mine if a couple days. It is supposed to be really good


Alan Van Art wrote:

I was trying to decide which coring system to get. Being that I have a
Jet
JWL-1236 and am fairly new to it, I was having some trouble deciding. I'm
looking at the McNaughton System, and the Woodcut Bowl Saver. After
reading
some of this group's archives, I've found that perhaps my lathe is a bit
underpowered for the McNaughton System. So, leaning toward the Woodcut
Bowl
Saver, I have a few questions for those who have one, and hopefully,
those
who also own the same lathe as I. I'd like to hear some comments about
the
Bowlsaver's use on underpowered lathes. Can I expect it to work well with
my
Jet, or is this a pipe dream that I would be able to use ANY of this type
tool on my lathe? Also, I'm a bit confused from the Bowlsaver's website,
I
can't decide what comes in the kit. Is it just one size tool (for a
single
size core), or is it a complete set like the McNaughton System? Also, to
simplify my ordering process, if I decide to go that way, which size tool
post does my lathe have?


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Hello Leo,

No problem, I will post a message when the article is available. Take care
and all the best to you and yours!

--
Better Woodturning and Finishing Through Chemistry...

Steven D. Russell
Eurowood Werks Woodturning Studio
The Woodlands, Texas

Machinery, Tool and Product Testing for the Woodworking and Woodturning
Industries

³Woodturning with Steven D. Russell² Volume #1 CD ROM * Available
Volume #2 CD ROM/DVD Video * Available Soon





On 8/18/04 11:44 AM, in article
, "Leo Lichtman"
wrote:


"Steven D. Russell" wrote: (clip) I will also show some
nifty modifications you can make you really make these puppies sing...(clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Would you be kind enough to post a note here when that article appears, so
we can watch for it? Thanks.