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A friend gave me several bowl blanks that she'd bought online... They
are all dipped in wax, as opposed to the ends coated... I turned on and it was very green and wet... Cracked as I was tuning it! I'm considering scraping the wax off of everything but the ends, to let it dry normally, any reason that I shouldn't?? I'm thinking that completely sealed in wax, they'll never dry, am I wrong here? |
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Mac Davis wrote:
A friend gave me several bowl blanks that she'd bought online... They are all dipped in wax, as opposed to the ends coated... I turned on and it was very green and wet... Cracked as I was tuning it! I'm considering scraping the wax off of everything but the ends, to let it dry normally, any reason that I shouldn't?? I'm thinking that completely sealed in wax, they'll never dry, am I wrong here? Is she cute? I would scrape as you mentioned. Are they really dipped or just painted with end sealer? Dipped, they will never dry. On wood that is prone to cracking, I often end seal the rough turned bowls and some still crack. -- GW Ross Without Time, everything would happen at once. |
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 07:39:18 -0400, "G. Ross"
wrote: Mac Davis wrote: A friend gave me several bowl blanks that she'd bought online... They are all dipped in wax, as opposed to the ends coated... I turned on and it was very green and wet... Cracked as I was tuning it! I'm considering scraping the wax off of everything but the ends, to let it dry normally, any reason that I shouldn't?? I'm thinking that completely sealed in wax, they'll never dry, am I wrong here? Is she cute? I would scrape as you mentioned. Are they really dipped or just painted with end sealer? Dipped, they will never dry. On wood that is prone to cracking, I often end seal the rough turned bowls and some still crack. Yeah, these are dipped in what feels like paraffin... Totally sealed... I'm an Armorseal user, but only on end grain... Thanks.. good advice, as usual, my friend... |
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On 5/19/2013 11:13 PM, Mac Davis wrote:
On Sun, 19 May 2013 07:39:18 -0400, "G. Ross" wrote: Mac Davis wrote: A friend gave me several bowl blanks that she'd bought online... They are all dipped in wax, as opposed to the ends coated... I turned on and it was very green and wet... Cracked as I was tuning it! I'm considering scraping the wax off of everything but the ends, to let it dry normally, any reason that I shouldn't?? I'm thinking that completely sealed in wax, they'll never dry, am I wrong here? Is she cute? I would scrape as you mentioned. Are they really dipped or just painted with end sealer? Dipped, they will never dry. On wood that is prone to cracking, I often end seal the rough turned bowls and some still crack. Yeah, these are dipped in what feels like paraffin... Totally sealed... I'm an Armorseal user, but only on end grain... Thanks.. good advice, as usual, my friend... personally, I like when the blanks are dipped in parafin - they dry much more slowly - if at all. I would suggest just turning to finished dimensions in one shot, and turn thin enough that it won't crack |
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Many people work with green / wet wood. One doesn't finish the job,
but leave thickness inside and out. Put it in a paper bag to retard the drying but allow it - and wait for a month or so. Martin On 5/19/2013 1:12 AM, Mac Davis wrote: A friend gave me several bowl blanks that she'd bought online... They are all dipped in wax, as opposed to the ends coated... I turned on and it was very green and wet... Cracked as I was tuning it! I'm considering scraping the wax off of everything but the ends, to let it dry normally, any reason that I shouldn't?? I'm thinking that completely sealed in wax, they'll never dry, am I wrong here? |
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 21:26:00 -0500, Martin Eastburn
wrote: Many people work with green / wet wood. One doesn't finish the job, but leave thickness inside and out. Put it in a paper bag to retard the drying but allow it - and wait for a month or so. Martin On 5/19/2013 1:12 AM, Mac Davis wrote: A friend gave me several bowl blanks that she'd bought online... They are all dipped in wax, as opposed to the ends coated... I turned on and it was very green and wet... Cracked as I was tuning it! I'm considering scraping the wax off of everything but the ends, to let it dry normally, any reason that I shouldn't?? I'm thinking that completely sealed in wax, they'll never dry, am I wrong here? Yeah, I figured that part out about 30 years ago, Martin... My question was whether or not to scrape the wax off all but the end grain... |
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Mac Davis wrote: A friend gave me several bowl blanks that she'd bought online... They are all dipped in wax, as opposed to the ends coated... I turned on and it was very green and wet... Cracked as I was tuning it! I'm considering scraping the wax off of everything but the ends, to let it dry normally, any reason that I shouldn't?? I'm thinking that completely sealed in wax, they'll never dry, am I wrong here? It's not unusual for some commercial wood processing places to just dump them in and coat everything, takes less time then just the ends -- -------------------------------------------------------- Personal e-mail is the n7bsn but at amsat.org This posting address is a spam-trap and seldom read RV and Camping FAQ can be found at http://www.ralphandellen.us/rv |
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For folks that prefer to turn green, it's actually desirable. Since you
prefer otherwise, scrape away. Cracking while turning happens, sometimes. If you are turning green blanks in "desert-dry" conditions, it probably happens more - I wouldn't know that part from experience. Less pain when it's firewood, of course. -- Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by Please don't feed the trolls. Killfile and ignore them so they will go away. |
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On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:53:26 -0400, Ecnerwal
wrote: For folks that prefer to turn green, it's actually desirable. Since you prefer otherwise, scrape away. Cracking while turning happens, sometimes. If you are turning green blanks in "desert-dry" conditions, it probably happens more - I wouldn't know that part from experience. Less pain when it's firewood, of course. I prefer turning green on shallow bowls, but these are mainly vase and deep bowl blanks.... No fun watching them crack before I can get them thin and deep enough to warp naturally... |
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On 05/20/2013 09:15 PM, Mac Davis wrote:
On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:53:26 -0400, Ecnerwal wrote: For folks that prefer to turn green, it's actually desirable. Since you prefer otherwise, scrape away. Cracking while turning happens, sometimes. If you are turning green blanks in "desert-dry" conditions, it probably happens more - I wouldn't know that part from experience. Less pain when it's firewood, of course. I prefer turning green on shallow bowls, but these are mainly vase and deep bowl blanks.... No fun watching them crack before I can get them thin and deep enough to warp naturally... I remember watching a video back in the day (Del Stubbs?) where he would spritz some water on the wood as he was turning to keep the thinner part he'd already turned from cracking while he tackled the rest... ....Kevin -- Kevin Miller Juneau, Alaska http://www.alaska.net/~atftb "In the history of the world, no one has ever washed a rented car." - Lawrence Summers |
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 08:20:49 -0800, Kevin Miller
wrote: I remember watching a video back in the day (Del Stubbs?) where he would spritz some water on the wood as he was turning to keep the thinner part he'd already turned from cracking while he tackled the rest... ...Kevin Hey Kevin.... Some vacation! I've tried plant misters, wet rags and Danish oil... All work well while turning... |
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On Mon, 20 May 2013 07:12:52 -0700, Ralph E Lindberg
wrote: snip It's not unusual for some commercial wood processing places to just dump them in and coat everything, takes less time then just the ends I think so... Less time to process and less complaints of cracked blanks when delivered... I dug out a purpleheart blank that I'd bought for one of my students almost 2 years ago... Didn't use a scale, but it feels the same weight as when it got here.... Scraping time tomorrow on 6 or 7 blanks... |
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Purple heart is so loaded with silica any moisture is swamped.
I broke the line on the glued up handle I made for a fancy handle file. Glue held only 25% of the edge. It is tricky stuff. I want to say I used thinner to dissolve the oil but might have just pushed it around... Martin On 5/21/2013 12:12 AM, Mac Davis wrote: On Mon, 20 May 2013 07:12:52 -0700, Ralph E Lindberg wrote: snip It's not unusual for some commercial wood processing places to just dump them in and coat everything, takes less time then just the ends I think so... Less time to process and less complaints of cracked blanks when delivered... I dug out a purpleheart blank that I'd bought for one of my students almost 2 years ago... Didn't use a scale, but it feels the same weight as when it got here.... Scraping time tomorrow on 6 or 7 blanks... |
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