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Mac Davis May 19th 13 07:12 AM

Bowl blanks dipped in wax
 
A friend gave me several bowl blanks that she'd bought online... They
are all dipped in wax, as opposed to the ends coated...

I turned on and it was very green and wet... Cracked as I was tuning
it!

I'm considering scraping the wax off of everything but the ends, to
let it dry normally, any reason that I shouldn't??

I'm thinking that completely sealed in wax, they'll never dry, am I
wrong here?

G. Ross May 19th 13 12:39 PM

Bowl blanks dipped in wax
 
Mac Davis wrote:
A friend gave me several bowl blanks that she'd bought online... They
are all dipped in wax, as opposed to the ends coated...

I turned on and it was very green and wet... Cracked as I was tuning
it!

I'm considering scraping the wax off of everything but the ends, to
let it dry normally, any reason that I shouldn't??

I'm thinking that completely sealed in wax, they'll never dry, am I
wrong here?


Is she cute?

I would scrape as you mentioned. Are they really dipped or just
painted with end sealer? Dipped, they will never dry. On wood that
is prone to cracking, I often end seal the rough turned bowls and some
still crack.

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Martin Eastburn May 20th 13 03:26 AM

Bowl blanks dipped in wax
 
Many people work with green / wet wood. One doesn't finish the job,
but leave thickness inside and out. Put it in a paper bag to retard
the drying but allow it - and wait for a month or so.

Martin

On 5/19/2013 1:12 AM, Mac Davis wrote:
A friend gave me several bowl blanks that she'd bought online... They
are all dipped in wax, as opposed to the ends coated...

I turned on and it was very green and wet... Cracked as I was tuning
it!

I'm considering scraping the wax off of everything but the ends, to
let it dry normally, any reason that I shouldn't??

I'm thinking that completely sealed in wax, they'll never dry, am I
wrong here?


Mac Davis May 20th 13 07:13 AM

Bowl blanks dipped in wax
 
On Sun, 19 May 2013 07:39:18 -0400, "G. Ross"
wrote:

Mac Davis wrote:
A friend gave me several bowl blanks that she'd bought online... They
are all dipped in wax, as opposed to the ends coated...

I turned on and it was very green and wet... Cracked as I was tuning
it!

I'm considering scraping the wax off of everything but the ends, to
let it dry normally, any reason that I shouldn't??

I'm thinking that completely sealed in wax, they'll never dry, am I
wrong here?


Is she cute?

I would scrape as you mentioned. Are they really dipped or just
painted with end sealer? Dipped, they will never dry. On wood that
is prone to cracking, I often end seal the rough turned bowls and some
still crack.


Yeah, these are dipped in what feels like paraffin... Totally
sealed...
I'm an Armorseal user, but only on end grain...

Thanks.. good advice, as usual, my friend...

Mac Davis May 20th 13 07:14 AM

Bowl blanks dipped in wax
 
On Sun, 19 May 2013 21:26:00 -0500, Martin Eastburn
wrote:

Many people work with green / wet wood. One doesn't finish the job,
but leave thickness inside and out. Put it in a paper bag to retard
the drying but allow it - and wait for a month or so.

Martin

On 5/19/2013 1:12 AM, Mac Davis wrote:
A friend gave me several bowl blanks that she'd bought online... They
are all dipped in wax, as opposed to the ends coated...

I turned on and it was very green and wet... Cracked as I was tuning
it!

I'm considering scraping the wax off of everything but the ends, to
let it dry normally, any reason that I shouldn't??

I'm thinking that completely sealed in wax, they'll never dry, am I
wrong here?

Yeah, I figured that part out about 30 years ago, Martin...
My question was whether or not to scrape the wax off all but the end
grain...

Ralph E Lindberg May 20th 13 03:12 PM

Bowl blanks dipped in wax
 
In article ,
Mac Davis wrote:

A friend gave me several bowl blanks that she'd bought online... They
are all dipped in wax, as opposed to the ends coated...

I turned on and it was very green and wet... Cracked as I was tuning
it!

I'm considering scraping the wax off of everything but the ends, to
let it dry normally, any reason that I shouldn't??

I'm thinking that completely sealed in wax, they'll never dry, am I
wrong here?


It's not unusual for some commercial wood processing places to just dump
them in and coat everything, takes less time then just the ends

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Ecnerwal[_3_] May 20th 13 06:53 PM

Bowl blanks dipped in wax
 
For folks that prefer to turn green, it's actually desirable. Since you
prefer otherwise, scrape away.

Cracking while turning happens, sometimes. If you are turning green
blanks in "desert-dry" conditions, it probably happens more - I wouldn't
know that part from experience. Less pain when it's firewood, of course.

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Mac Davis May 21st 13 06:12 AM

Bowl blanks dipped in wax
 
On Mon, 20 May 2013 07:12:52 -0700, Ralph E Lindberg
wrote:

snip
It's not unusual for some commercial wood processing places to just dump
them in and coat everything, takes less time then just the ends


I think so... Less time to process and less complaints of cracked
blanks when delivered...

I dug out a purpleheart blank that I'd bought for one of my students
almost 2 years ago... Didn't use a scale, but it feels the same weight
as when it got here....
Scraping time tomorrow on 6 or 7 blanks...

Mac Davis May 21st 13 06:15 AM

Bowl blanks dipped in wax
 
On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:53:26 -0400, Ecnerwal
wrote:

For folks that prefer to turn green, it's actually desirable. Since you
prefer otherwise, scrape away.

Cracking while turning happens, sometimes. If you are turning green
blanks in "desert-dry" conditions, it probably happens more - I wouldn't
know that part from experience. Less pain when it's firewood, of course.


I prefer turning green on shallow bowls, but these are mainly vase and
deep bowl blanks.... No fun watching them crack before I can get them
thin and deep enough to warp naturally...

Kevin Miller[_2_] May 21st 13 05:20 PM

Bowl blanks dipped in wax
 
On 05/20/2013 09:15 PM, Mac Davis wrote:
On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:53:26 -0400, Ecnerwal
wrote:

For folks that prefer to turn green, it's actually desirable. Since you
prefer otherwise, scrape away.

Cracking while turning happens, sometimes. If you are turning green
blanks in "desert-dry" conditions, it probably happens more - I wouldn't
know that part from experience. Less pain when it's firewood, of course.


I prefer turning green on shallow bowls, but these are mainly vase and
deep bowl blanks.... No fun watching them crack before I can get them
thin and deep enough to warp naturally...


I remember watching a video back in the day (Del Stubbs?) where he would
spritz some water on the wood as he was turning to keep the thinner part
he'd already turned from cracking while he tackled the rest...

....Kevin
--
Kevin Miller
Juneau, Alaska
http://www.alaska.net/~atftb
"In the history of the world, no one has ever washed a rented car."
- Lawrence Summers

Martin Eastburn May 22nd 13 03:51 AM

Bowl blanks dipped in wax
 
Purple heart is so loaded with silica any moisture is swamped.

I broke the line on the glued up handle I made for a fancy handle file.
Glue held only 25% of the edge. It is tricky stuff. I want to say I
used thinner to dissolve the oil but might have just pushed it around...

Martin

On 5/21/2013 12:12 AM, Mac Davis wrote:
On Mon, 20 May 2013 07:12:52 -0700, Ralph E Lindberg
wrote:

snip
It's not unusual for some commercial wood processing places to just dump
them in and coat everything, takes less time then just the ends


I think so... Less time to process and less complaints of cracked
blanks when delivered...

I dug out a purpleheart blank that I'd bought for one of my students
almost 2 years ago... Didn't use a scale, but it feels the same weight
as when it got here....
Scraping time tomorrow on 6 or 7 blanks...


.[_23_] May 22nd 13 05:28 AM

Bowl blanks dipped in wax
 
On 5/19/2013 11:13 PM, Mac Davis wrote:
On Sun, 19 May 2013 07:39:18 -0400, "G. Ross"
wrote:

Mac Davis wrote:
A friend gave me several bowl blanks that she'd bought online... They
are all dipped in wax, as opposed to the ends coated...

I turned on and it was very green and wet... Cracked as I was tuning
it!

I'm considering scraping the wax off of everything but the ends, to
let it dry normally, any reason that I shouldn't??

I'm thinking that completely sealed in wax, they'll never dry, am I
wrong here?


Is she cute?

I would scrape as you mentioned. Are they really dipped or just
painted with end sealer? Dipped, they will never dry. On wood that
is prone to cracking, I often end seal the rough turned bowls and some
still crack.


Yeah, these are dipped in what feels like paraffin... Totally
sealed...
I'm an Armorseal user, but only on end grain...

Thanks.. good advice, as usual, my friend...


personally, I like when the blanks are dipped in parafin - they dry much
more slowly - if at all. I would suggest just turning to finished
dimensions in one shot, and turn thin enough that it won't crack

Mac Davis May 22nd 13 07:00 AM

Bowl blanks dipped in wax
 
On Tue, 21 May 2013 08:20:49 -0800, Kevin Miller
wrote:

I remember watching a video back in the day (Del Stubbs?) where he would
spritz some water on the wood as he was turning to keep the thinner part
he'd already turned from cracking while he tackled the rest...

...Kevin


Hey Kevin.... Some vacation!

I've tried plant misters, wet rags and Danish oil... All work well
while turning...

Kevin Miller[_2_] May 22nd 13 05:19 PM

Bowl blanks dipped in wax
 
On 05/21/2013 10:00 PM, Mac Davis wrote:
On Tue, 21 May 2013 08:20:49 -0800, Kevin
wrote:

I remember watching a video back in the day (Del Stubbs?) where he would
spritz some water on the wood as he was turning to keep the thinner part
he'd already turned from cracking while he tackled the rest...

...Kevin


Hey Kevin.... Some vacation!

I've tried plant misters, wet rags and Danish oil... All work well
while turning...


Interesting thought on the Danish Oil. Not so prone to evaporation as
just misting/wiping w/water. Probably want to stay out of the line of
fire though as I'm sure it'll splatter a lot...

....Kevin
--
Kevin Miller
Juneau, Alaska
http://www.alaska.net/~atftb
"In the history of the world, no one has ever washed a rented car."
- Lawrence Summers

Mac Davis May 23rd 13 07:54 AM

Bowl blanks dipped in wax
 
On Wed, 22 May 2013 08:19:23 -0800, Kevin Miller
wrote:


Interesting thought on the Danish Oil. Not so prone to evaporation as
just misting/wiping w/water. Probably want to stay out of the line of
fire though as I'm sure it'll splatter a lot...

...Kevin


I wet sand a lot of my softer pieces with natural Danish oil, then
buff 'em...
Hardens the surface a bit and slows the drying to let them warp...
It also fills in little gaps and grain rings...


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