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looking for a lathe
I'm still trying to find an affordable lathe, the jet ones look great, but
too much for me to be able to pay for. are there any(like the harbor Freight one that somebody was talking about, that are under 200$US, that would do a decent job for a while? thanks |
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The Harbor Freight 36066 can be had when on sale for $69-$79US. Not the
best lathe for sure but darned good to learn on for a small investment. It does not include a stand, available for extra $$$. Odd sized threads for a chuck too but they are available thru HF for a nominal amount. Reyd Dorakeen wrote: I'm still trying to find an affordable lathe, the jet ones look great, but too much for me to be able to pay for. are there any(like the harbor Freight one that somebody was talking about, that are under 200$US, that would do a decent job for a while? thanks |
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I've never turned but am interested in it. What do I need to order, if you
don't mind? Lathe, stand, chuck, chisels. (I have a scary-sharp setup.) Thanks. -- Mark Grandpa wrote: The Harbor Freight 36066 can be had when on sale for $69-$79US. Not the best lathe for sure but darned good to learn on for a small investment. It does not include a stand, available for extra $$$. Odd sized threads for a chuck too but they are available thru HF for a nominal amount. Reyd Dorakeen wrote: I'm still trying to find an affordable lathe, the jet ones look great, but too much for me to be able to pay for. are there any(like the harbor Freight one that somebody was talking about, that are under 200$US, that would do a decent job for a while? thanks |
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Mark Jerde wrote:
I've never turned but am interested in it. What do I need to order, if you don't mind? Lathe, stand, chuck, chisels. (I have a scary-sharp setup.) Depends on what you can make, Mark. I have a lathe (JET mini), a shop-built stand. No chuck yet. Looks like I need to remedy that almost immediately if I want to use up some small, square 4/4 scraps for practicing. I have a super cheapo set of lathe tools to start out with, and I'm glad I'm not using anything expensive, because I'm doing a real number on them while making my first pathetic attempts at getting them sharp. Scary Sharp(tm) is pretty useless for this stuff. Too many curves, and the consensus always seems to be that the way to do it is to grind and use, without honing. Honing is said to be largely a waste of time for turning, because tools need sharpening constantly. That's my newbie take on it. I absolutely SUCK at turning so far. I've had my lathe for a day and a half now, and I'm really beginning to wonder what I've gotten myself into. Kinda wishing I'd bought the Veritas #6 foreplane instead, truth be told, but hopefully I'm just caught up in a self pity spiral, and I'll feel better about it in the morning. I might cave in and take some classes, and I never take classes for anything. I'm no longer convinced I can figure this out just from reading books. It's like learning how to dance the macarena by following numbered footsteps on the floor. The footsteps just don't tell the story by themselves. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ |
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I might cave in and take some classes, and I never take classes for
anything. I'm no longer convinced I can figure this out just from reading books. It's like learning how to dance the macarena by following numbered footsteps on the floor. The footsteps just don't tell the story by themselves. Don't look at taking lessons as 'caving in.' Getting a few hours instruction from someone who knows how to turn and how to teach will save you from making many frustrating and possibly harmful mistakes. You don't get anything tangible from the lessons as you would if you bought some tools but it should increase the pleasure you realize from turning. Remember, all the touring golf professionals have and use an instructor. Hope this helps, Harry |
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In article , Reyd Dorakeen
wrote: Freight one that somebody was talking about, that are under 200$US, that would do a decent job for a while? Your best best in the $200 and under range is going to be used. Follow the classified ads, look up your local version of "want ad digest" or "uncle henry's" (regional sell/buy/swap classified ad publications), if you don't see anything in a whiole of looking, post a "wanted" or "buy" ad, perhaps. -- Cats, Coffee, Chocolate...vices to live by |
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If you are interested in a smaller lathe the jet mini/midi can be had for
$199 U.S. and in the future you could add the bed extension. I would stray away from lathes and other tools with oddball size stuff on them, you can never buy any NICE after market stuff for them. "Reyd Dorakeen" wrote in message ... I'm still trying to find an affordable lathe, the jet ones look great, but too much for me to be able to pay for. are there any(like the harbor Freight one that somebody was talking about, that are under 200$US, that would do a decent job for a while? thanks |
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"speedbuggy" wrote in message igy.com...
If you are interested in a smaller lathe the jet mini/midi can be had for $199 U.S. and in the future you could add the bed extension. I would stray away from lathes and other tools with oddball size stuff on them, you can never buy any NICE after market stuff for them. "Reyd Dorakeen" wrote in message ... I'm still trying to find an affordable lathe, the jet ones look great, but too much for me to be able to pay for. are there any(like the harbor Freight one that somebody was talking about, that are under 200$US, that would do a decent job for a while? thanks Look no further than the Nova DVR. 16" swing. High quality, expandible, 1 1/4" x 8 thread. Easy to find parts. Factory support. Computer varible speed from 250-3000. Swivel Head, outrigger available. Buy once for around $1700. Don't waste your money on China iron. Here's a support group. http://groups.msn.com/NovaOwners |
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looking for a lathe - get back on target
georgetroy wrote:
Look no further than the Nova DVR. 16" swing. High quality, expandible, 1 1/4" x 8 thread. Easy to find parts. Factory support. Computer varible speed from 250-3000. Swivel Head, outrigger available. Buy once for around $1700. Don't waste your money on China iron. Here's a support group. http://groups.msn.com/NovaOwners OP said he had $100 to spend. You guys want to get back into the ballpark. Not $300, not $1700, not $200. $100 that's it. Dave in Fairfax -- reply-to doesn't work use: daveldr at att dot net |
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"Reyd Dorakeen" wrote in message ... I'm still trying to find an affordable lathe, the jet ones look great, but too much for me to be able to pay for. are there any(like the harbor Freight one that somebody was talking about, that are under 200$US, that would do a decent job for a while? thanks I am new to wood turning. I purchased the HF T34706 12x36 lthe and have found it to satisfactory for my needs thus far. I paid around $180 (on sale). So far I have done some spindle turning and a few segmented bowls. The lathe has worked fine. My only complaint is that it is noisy. I am sure that some day I will want a better lathe but for now it is doing everything I have ask of it. Jerry |
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Jerry Pettus wrote:
"Reyd Dorakeen" wrote in message ... I'm still trying to find an affordable lathe, the jet ones look great, but too much for me to be able to pay for. are there any(like the harbor Freight one that somebody was talking about, that are under 200$US, that would do a decent job for a while? thanks I second Jerry with an affordable Jet clone from Harbor Freight. It's $269 regular price but it goes on sale for under $200 occasionally. Throw in their high speed tool set and you have plenty to start out with for a beginner. You will also need a bench grinder to sharpen your tools. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=34706 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=47066 |
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You will also need a bench grinder to sharpen your tools. Can't I do it by
hand on a stone? Or maybe on the belt sander(if i turn it on first, then sit it on its back) |
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Reyd Dorakeen wrote:
You will also need a bench grinder to sharpen your tools. Can't I do it by hand on a stone? Or maybe on the belt sander(if i turn it on first, then sit it on its back) I believe some people on this group use a belt sander. I just mentioned the bench grinder because it seems to be more popular and they are cheap. It would take a while to do it by hand, but I guess you could. Some people hone their tools by hand after sharpening on a grinder or belt. |
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Reyd Dorakeen wrote in message ...
I'm still trying to find an affordable lathe, the jet ones look great, but too much for me to be able to pay for. are there any(like the harbor Freight one that somebody was talking about, that are under 200$US, that would do a decent job for a while? thanks As already mentioned, the Jet mini lathe can be purchased from Amazon and others for $199. Add a set of Harbor Freight HSS Chinese tools, #47066, for $29.99. And a $50 bowl gouge. And a Woodcraft 8 inch slow speed grinder, $90, if you don't already have a grinder. And you are set. No its not free or real cheap. It is a hobby so it costs to get involved. If you object to paying this much, then acquire a knife, a stone, and a strop, and be a whittling carver. Minimal tool cost to begin whittling. Or take up rustic furniture making using twigs and sticks to build chairs. Or green woodworking where almost everything is done with a drawknife, spokeshave, and brace. |
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Its NOT a hobby....its an ADDICTION! grin
"Russell Seaton" wrote in message om... Reyd Dorakeen wrote in message ... I'm still trying to find an affordable lathe, the jet ones look great, but too much for me to be able to pay for. are there any(like the harbor Freight one that somebody was talking about, that are under 200$US, that would do a decent job for a while? thanks As already mentioned, the Jet mini lathe can be purchased from Amazon and others for $199. Add a set of Harbor Freight HSS Chinese tools, #47066, for $29.99. And a $50 bowl gouge. And a Woodcraft 8 inch slow speed grinder, $90, if you don't already have a grinder. And you are set. No its not free or real cheap. It is a hobby so it costs to get involved. If you object to paying this much, then acquire a knife, a stone, and a strop, and be a whittling carver. Minimal tool cost to begin whittling. Or take up rustic furniture making using twigs and sticks to build chairs. Or green woodworking where almost everything is done with a drawknife, spokeshave, and brace. |
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I've already done enough hand carving(my hands will never be the same)
greenwoodworking sounds interesting, want to send a link on that?(i have the tools for that apparently)and its something I could do until i have enough for a lathe to work on at home, instead of just for 2 hours a day. Reyd Dorakeen wrote in message ... I'm still trying to find an affordable lathe, the jet ones look great, but too much for me to be able to pay for. are there any(like the harbor Freight one that somebody was talking about, that are under 200$US, that would do a decent job for a while? thanks As already mentioned, the Jet mini lathe can be purchased from Amazon and others for $199. Add a set of Harbor Freight HSS Chinese tools, #47066, for $29.99. And a $50 bowl gouge. And a Woodcraft 8 inch slow speed grinder, $90, if you don't already have a grinder. And you are set. No its not free or real cheap. It is a hobby so it costs to get involved. If you object to paying this much, then acquire a knife, a stone, and a strop, and be a whittling carver. Minimal tool cost to begin whittling. Or take up rustic furniture making using twigs and sticks to build chairs. Or green woodworking where almost everything is done with a drawknife, spokeshave, and brace. |
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Reyd Dorakeen wrote:
I've already done enough hand carving(my hands will never be the same) greenwoodworking sounds interesting, want to send a link on that?(i have the tools for that apparently)and its something I could do until i have enough for a lathe to work on at home, instead of just for 2 hours a day. http://www.greenwoodworking.com/ g -- Mark |
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Hi Reyd,
If you are young and strong and have some hand tools and most any sort of junk parts, consider making and starting out with a simple pole lathe. They are cheap, yet can be very rewarding, IMHO. A pole lathe is always a conversation starter among turners. It gives you instant recognition. It teaches you a bit of the craft's history and gives you a feel for the tribulations of those who came before you. It safely teaches you the fundamentals of every spindle cut with slow enough speeds for you to see the reason for your mistakes. The 'old thing' becomes a treasured keepsake after you become an expert turner. No expensive wood is needed (or even desirable), just some free and easily turned green limbs. An imperfect turning is the norm and is expected. Cheap or homemade edge tools with ugly handles are in good taste and are just right for the job. No electricity is needed, and your aching legs will force you to learn to sharpen well. There are lots of opportunities for your own innovativations and your personal designs. I have seen some beautiful pole lathes......and some ugly ones. Both kinds worked and were prized by their owners. Mike Abbott's "Green Woodworking" plus several websites would get you started, or at least be an interesting read as you take up the craft. Al best, Arch Fortiter, |
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I was thinking about building one in the meantime, it would be pretty crude,
just using a sawhorse bolted down as the base, a 1 speed motor, maybe running through a bike's chain gear system for speed adjustments and no sliding toolrest, just an |-| shaped piece of wood for a rest., and each bowl would be bolted on, but it would be interesting. we have a few decent motors around, 1/2horse old electric(lots of push, less speed) another 1/2 horse running the grinding wheels(very small wheels, the motor is almost dead) and then a quite large motor in an industrial fan thing sitting in the basement. I think ive made most of the mistakes im going to, and my teacher explained why a lot of them happened.(ill just do them over and over now) Hi Reyd, If you are young and strong and have some hand tools and most any sort of junk parts, consider making and starting out with a simple pole lathe. They are cheap, yet can be very rewarding, IMHO. A pole lathe is always a conversation starter among turners. It gives you instant recognition. It teaches you a bit of the craft's history and gives you a feel for the tribulations of those who came before you. It safely teaches you the fundamentals of every spindle cut with slow enough speeds for you to see the reason for your mistakes. The 'old thing' becomes a treasured keepsake after you become an expert turner. No expensive wood is needed (or even desirable), just some free and easily turned green limbs. An imperfect turning is the norm and is expected. Cheap or homemade edge tools with ugly handles are in good taste and are just right for the job. No electricity is needed, and your aching legs will force you to learn to sharpen well. There are lots of opportunities for your own innovativations and your personal designs. I have seen some beautiful pole lathes......and some ugly ones. Both kinds worked and were prized by their owners. Mike Abbott's "Green Woodworking" plus several websites would get you started, or at least be an interesting read as you take up the craft. Al best, Arch Fortiter, |
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Go for it Reyd, Convert that sawhorse,you won't regret it.
I do hate to be the COC to point out your worst mistake so far;......thinking that you have made all of them. Arch Fortiter, |
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I dunno, I seem to be making the same ones over and over now instead of
finding new ones to make:P so far the list includes -rember to lower the speed for bigger things -dont start it when the locking pin is on -make sure the tool rest is far enough back no matter what the teacher says, goglles suc -dont let little pests near the starting buttons when your hands are near the pulleys -skew chisels will damage things if you poke them into it while its spinning -make sure the glue is dry so that bits of your bowl stay together -gouges hurt when you slip over to the other side on the inside of a bowl -when the sandpaper starts smoking, that should mean stop, it will be burning your hand soon -check to make sure that the gouge is actually attached to the handle(so it doesnt go flying around) -watch the sides of your bowl, when it starts to make loud noises, that means your coming through the side soon :P those are the ones i remeber most so far. Go for it Reyd, Convert that sawhorse,you won't regret it. I do hate to be the COC to point out your worst mistake so far;......thinking that you have made all of them. Arch Fortiter, |
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You can locate a group near you where you can attend meetings and pickup a
LOT of tips and tricks and quite possibly an old lathe that someone wants to sell because they are upgrading. "Reyd Dorakeen" wrote in message ... I was thinking about building one in the meantime, it would be pretty crude, just using a sawhorse bolted down as the base, a 1 speed motor, maybe running through a bike's chain gear system for speed adjustments and no sliding toolrest, just an |-| shaped piece of wood for a rest., and each bowl would be bolted on, but it would be interesting. we have a few decent motors around, 1/2horse old electric(lots of push, less speed) another 1/2 horse running the grinding wheels(very small wheels, the motor is almost dead) and then a quite large motor in an industrial fan thing sitting in the basement. I think ive made most of the mistakes im going to, and my teacher explained why a lot of them happened.(ill just do them over and over now) Hi Reyd, If you are young and strong and have some hand tools and most any sort of junk parts, consider making and starting out with a simple pole lathe. They are cheap, yet can be very rewarding, IMHO. A pole lathe is always a conversation starter among turners. It gives you instant recognition. It teaches you a bit of the craft's history and gives you a feel for the tribulations of those who came before you. It safely teaches you the fundamentals of every spindle cut with slow enough speeds for you to see the reason for your mistakes. The 'old thing' becomes a treasured keepsake after you become an expert turner. No expensive wood is needed (or even desirable), just some free and easily turned green limbs. An imperfect turning is the norm and is expected. Cheap or homemade edge tools with ugly handles are in good taste and are just right for the job. No electricity is needed, and your aching legs will force you to learn to sharpen well. There are lots of opportunities for your own innovativations and your personal designs. I have seen some beautiful pole lathes......and some ugly ones. Both kinds worked and were prized by their owners. Mike Abbott's "Green Woodworking" plus several websites would get you started, or at least be an interesting read as you take up the craft. Al best, Arch Fortiter, |
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Reyd,
IF you're adventurous and have an electric motor (1/4 hp 1750 rpm would be plenty) I'll send you this old one for the cost of shipping from Saskatoon: http://balderstone.ca/lathe5.jpg The tool rest is broken, and the set screw for the tail stock is buggered, but if you or a buddy are taking shop at school you could fix it up easily. Happy to help a fellow Zelazny fan. ;-) -- There are no socks in my email address. "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" |
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about how heavy is it?, is it belt drive, or do i attach to motor
directly?(I'd love to have it, it looks like my favorite type of machine(in need of a little love:P) your the first person to get my name, I was starting to wonder if anyone else had read roadmarks. Reyd, IF you're adventurous and have an electric motor (1/4 hp 1750 rpm would be plenty) I'll send you this old one for the cost of shipping from Saskatoon: http://balderstone.ca/lathe5.jpg The tool rest is broken, and the set screw for the tail stock is buggered, but if you or a buddy are taking shop at school you could fix it up easily. Happy to help a fellow Zelazny fan. ;-) |
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Reyd Dorakeen wrote:
your the first person to get my name, I was starting to wonder if anyone else had read roadmarks. Oh no, we all got it, we just didn't comment. Much like Mekon. Dave in Fairfax -- reply-to doesn't work use: daveldr at att dot net |
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yay! finally somewhere normal:P in most of the other places I inhabit,
people haven't heard of Roadmarks. Reyd Dorakeen wrote: your the first person to get my name, I was starting to wonder if anyone else had read roadmarks. Oh no, we all got it, we just didn't comment. Much like Mekon. Dave in Fairfax |
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In article , Reyd Dorakeen
wrote: about how heavy is it?, is it belt drive, or do i attach to motor directly?(I'd love to have it, it looks like my favorite type of machine(in need of a little love:P) your the first person to get my name, I was starting to wonder if anyone else had read roadmarks. I'll haul it onto a scale later, I'm just taking a break from the kitchen... I do the holiday cooking in this house. g I'm guessing under 30 pounds, but I'll have to dig it out from under the bench to confirm. It's belt drive, and yeah it needs a little love, but it's got some history (Grandpa to Dad to me). I'd like to have it used rather than boat anchored, so I'll find out what shipping would be and let you know. Is a valid email address? If not, send me a private note (sans socks). As for Roadmarks... I've read everything I can find of Zelazny's, starting about 25 years ago. I was disappointed with his attempt to extend the Amber series, but more disappointed that we'll have no new work from the man. Merry Christmas! djb -- There are no socks in my email address. "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" |
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Where do you live?
"Reyd Dorakeen" wrote in message ... I'm still trying to find an affordable lathe, the jet ones look great, but too much for me to be able to pay for. are there any(like the harbor Freight one that somebody was talking about, that are under 200$US, that would do a decent job for a while? thanks |
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B.C. Canada
Where do you live? "Reyd Dorakeen" wrote in message ... I'm still trying to find an affordable lathe, the jet ones look great, but too much for me to be able to pay for. are there any(like the harbor Freight one that somebody was talking about, that are under 200$US, that would do a decent job for a while? thanks |
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