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Where Woudl Turning Be Today IF . . .
it had stopped at Round & Brown?
Preface: No intent to denigrate or in any way "dis" Round & Brown But think of how narrow the field of possibilities would be without - natural edge - color - inlay - patinas - pyrography - surface texturing - piercing - carving - segmented - multi center - eccentric - the use of voids and inclusions : : : We live in interesting times - and turners keep coming up with new areas to explore. If turning stops growing - will it die out, or stop growing? What say you? |
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Where Woudl Turning Be Today IF . . .
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 23:21:58 -0500, charlie b wrote
(in message ): it had stopped at Round & Brown? Preface: No intent to denigrate or in any way "dis" Round & Brown But think of how narrow the field of possibilities would be without - natural edge - color - inlay - patinas - pyrography - surface texturing - piercing - carving - segmented - multi center - eccentric - the use of voids and inclusions : : : We live in interesting times - and turners keep coming up with new areas to explore. If turning stops growing - will it die out, or stop growing? What say you? I have to be optimistic. People come in such wide varieties of interest and attitude, that at least some of them will continue to take up wood turning. Some will re-discover at least some of the different varieties of turning, and others will go where no turner has gone before. With the continuing development of new tools or new variations on old tools, and the introduction of new kinds of adhesives, glues, and finishes - and new or different ways of using these things. Turning cannot help but continue to grow and change. We also have new and different kinds of materials available for turning, and many of these things also present opportunities for growth and change in the art/craft/science of turning. I earnestly think it is not possible for turning to stop growing and changing. Respectfully submitted, tom koehler -- I will find a way or make one. |
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Where Woudl Turning Be Today IF . . .
charlie b asks. "What say you?" I say, thanks for asking, Charlie. I couldn't agree more with your premise. Your list of "variations on a round & brown theme" as with all your contributions to woodturning here and elsewhere goads us into thinking beyond the R&B baseline along with you. Well, a little behind you. I say it's a good thing to push beyond the limits of our fixed headstocks, in line spindles and hand held freely applied cutting tools. True, the "standard" machines, tools and techniques in most of our shops continue to offer tremendous opportunities for innovative art/craft and are nowhere near the limit of their possibitities, but there was a time of almost no face turning and spindles ruled, not that far removed from the days of the bodgers. Woodturning must grow or it will shrivel. Maybe there is no limit with using what we have in our shops today, especially with the adaptions of readily available ancillary modes and devices such as charlie's use of electo-mechanical aids to stretch the limits. That said, I wonder if it's not time to consider making equipment from other turning disciplines affordable additions to our present armament. I mean cross slides, various automatic feeds, tilting and thrusting headstocks, programmable chucks, ornamental devices etc. etc. Why not? Probably cost. If common in our shops they could/would/might refresh our hobby. ...or just maybe I'm in my periodic "burn-out phase" and woodturning doesn't need refreshing and traditionally as is will do very well without my eccentric off center mechanical ideas. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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Where Woudl Turning Be Today IF . . .
"Arch" wrote in message
... charlie b asks. "What say you?" I say, thanks for asking, Charlie. I couldn't agree more with your premise. Your list of "variations on a round & brown theme" as with all your contributions to woodturning here and elsewhere goads us into thinking beyond the R&B baseline along with you. Well, a little behind you. I say it's a good thing to push beyond the limits of our fixed headstocks, in line spindles and hand held freely applied cutting tools. True, the "standard" machines, tools and techniques in most of our shops continue to offer tremendous opportunities for innovative art/craft and are nowhere near the limit of their possibitities, but there was a time of almost no face turning and spindles ruled, not that far removed from the days of the bodgers. Woodturning must grow or it will shrivel. Maybe there is no limit with using what we have in our shops today, especially with the adaptions of readily available ancillary modes and devices such as charlie's use of electo-mechanical aids to stretch the limits. That said, I wonder if it's not time to consider making equipment from other turning disciplines affordable additions to our present armament. I mean cross slides, various automatic feeds, tilting and thrusting headstocks, programmable chucks, ornamental devices etc. etc. Why not? Probably cost. Holtzapffel lathes are among the most complex mechanical contrivances on the planet. Not counting the BC bronze "Laptop" found a few years back. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holtzapffel And be sure to look at the references. Particularly: http://holtzapffel.org/ |
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Where Woudl Turning Be Today IF . . .
On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 16:35:50 -0700, Lobby Dosser wrote:
Holtzapffel lathes are among the most complex mechanical contrivances on the planet. Possibly true, but a Linotype machine would give them a run for the money. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linotype_machine I'd heard a while back that Mergenthaler had a nervous breakdown after he finished the design, but I can't find anything currently to confirm that. -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw |
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Where Woudl Turning Be Today IF . . .
"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message
... On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 16:35:50 -0700, Lobby Dosser wrote: Holtzapffel lathes are among the most complex mechanical contrivances on the planet. Possibly true, but a Linotype machine would give them a run for the money. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linotype_machine I'd heard a while back that Mergenthaler had a nervous breakdown after he finished the design, but I can't find anything currently to confirm that. -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw The Wikipedia article on Babbage is worth a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babbage#Difference_engine And from there jump to the Jacquard loom. The BC example I mentioned is he http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism |
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