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easy rougher tool
Has anyone used this tool? I've seen a couple of videos and it seems to
rough out bowls pretty easily. It would seem to be nice for cherry burls with a lot of bark. |
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Yes I have had one for some time now. As you say it roughs out bowls
quick quick. But it is a Roughing tool, dont expect a perfect finish, tho it does give a finish where you can start sanding at say 120 grit. Its biggest advantage for me is that you don't need to sway your body to get it to work perfectly. A big boon, if like me you are a disabled turner. Tom "Kevin Cleary" wrote in message ... Has anyone used this tool? I've seen a couple of videos and it seems to rough out bowls pretty easily. It would seem to be nice for cherry burls with a lot of bark. |
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:26:51 -0400, "Kevin Cleary" wrote:
Has anyone used this tool? I've seen a couple of videos and it seems to rough out bowls pretty easily. It would seem to be nice for cherry burls with a lot of bark. Robohippy uses on.. seems to like it.. He may comment.. If not, google this group for ezrougher or robohippy and check out the discussion we had a few months ago.. I think if I was more of a production turner, I'd make the investment, but for now I'll stick with oland tools and bowl gouges.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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"Kevin Cleary" wrote: Has anyone used this tool? I've seen a couple of videos and it seems to rough out bowls pretty easily. It would seem to be nice for cherry burls with a lot of bark. Yes I've used it... It is easier to use then a proper bowl gouge, is it faster.... Well not for me. Where I have found it really works is knocking the blank round. After it is round and true I have noticed no real advantage over a bowl gouge. Of course, it does cause less stress in the hands, making it a real advantage for some users -- -------------------------------------------------------- Personal e-mail is the n7bsn but at amsat.org This posting address is a spam-trap and seldom read RV and Camping FAQ can be found at http://www.ralphandellen.us/rv |
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Hi Mac
Just reading this thread, and thinking about the different tools we use and try, did you use or try the reshaped drill-bit to use for hollowing, I'm maybe wrong as it's been a while, thought it was you that tried that tool at one time ?? If it wasn't you, do you happen to remember something about this, or anybody else for that matter of course :-)) Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo http://homepage.mac.com/l.vanderloo/PhotoAlbum4.html On Aug 21, 1:42*am, mac davis wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:26:51 -0400, "Kevin Cleary" wrote: Has anyone used this tool? I've seen a couple of videos and it seems to rough out bowls pretty easily. It would seem to be nice for cherry burls with a lot of bark. Robohippy uses on.. seems to like it.. He may comment.. If not, google this group for ezrougher or robohippy and check out the discussion we had a few months ago.. I think if I was more of a production turner, I'd make the investment, but for now I'll stick with oland tools and bowl gouges.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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Thanks for replying Mac, seems the old flashcard is failing me ;-)),
Mac I've made and use a few homemade tools, though I make the swan- neck shape, to eliminate the twisting torque on them, unless they are very small tools, and even then it is easier to use them without the twisting and grabbing the tool might/will do. Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo http://homepage.mac.com/l.vanderloo/PhotoAlbum4.html On Aug 22, 10:55*am, mac davis wrote: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:20:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Wasn't me, Leo... I don't do any hollowing that the Eliminator or Termite won't handle... Hollow forms just aren't my thing.. OTOH, I an sort of intrigued by Bill Noble's post about using old alan wrenches for hollowing... I have a few that would fit my Oland tools... hmmm... Hi Mac Just reading this thread, and thinking about the different tools we use and try, did you use or try the reshaped drill-bit to use for hollowing, I'm maybe wrong as it's been a while, thought it was you that tried that tool at one time ?? If it wasn't you, do you happen to remember something about this, or anybody else for that matter of course :-)) Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo http://homepage.mac.com/l.vanderloo/PhotoAlbum4.html On Aug 21, 1:42*am, mac davis wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:26:51 -0400, "Kevin Cleary" wrote: Has anyone used this tool? I've seen a couple of videos and it seems to rough out bowls pretty easily. It would seem to be nice for cherry burls with a lot of bark. Robohippy uses on.. seems to like it.. He may comment.. If not, google this group for ezrougher or robohippy and check out the discussion we had a few months ago.. I think if I was more of a production turner, I'd make the investment, but for now I'll stick with oland tools and bowl gouges.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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Well, talking about me behind my back again? I guess I could check in
more often. The Easy Rougher is a scraper. Scrapers are my go to tool for roughing out bowl blanks. They also work well for shear cuts/finish cuts on the inside and outside of a bowl. Hold it at a 45 degree angle rather than flat on the tool rest and you get a good finish cut. The Easy Rougher is a version of a tool that origionated on the Oregon Coast with the Myrtle wood turners, known as the Big Ugly tool. It was a 30 inch or so long piece of 3/4 inch square steel bar stock, with a 2 inch or so by 7/8 inch wide by about 1/8 inch thick piece of Tantung steel silver soldered to each end. Since both ends are sharp, you wear a heavy leather glove on the handle hand. The advantage to the Tantung is that you can sharpen it on conventional grinders. The carbide tips on the Easy Rougher can not be resharpened in most home shops, and maybe not in any shop. Our diamond hones won't do enough to resharpen them. It uses a micro/nano grain carbide which is much finer than the stuff your saw blade teeth are made out of. There are inserts you can find, but I don't think they are the same carbide. robo hippy On Aug 22, 9:43*am, wrote: Thanks for replying Mac, seems the old flashcard is failing me ;-)), Mac I've made and use a few homemade tools, though I make the swan- neck shape, to eliminate the twisting torque on them, unless they are very small tools, and even then it is easier to use them without the twisting and grabbing the tool might/will do. Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loohttp://homepage.mac.com/l.vanderloo/PhotoAlbum4.html On Aug 22, 10:55*am, mac davis wrote: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:20:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Wasn't me, Leo... I don't do any hollowing that the Eliminator or Termite won't handle... Hollow forms just aren't my thing.. OTOH, I an sort of intrigued by Bill Noble's post about using old alan wrenches for hollowing... I have a few that would fit my Oland tools... hmmm... Hi Mac Just reading this thread, and thinking about the different tools we use and try, did you use or try the reshaped drill-bit to use for hollowing, I'm maybe wrong as it's been a while, thought it was you that tried that tool at one time ?? If it wasn't you, do you happen to remember something about this, or anybody else for that matter of course :-)) Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo http://homepage.mac.com/l.vanderloo/PhotoAlbum4.html On Aug 21, 1:42*am, mac davis wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:26:51 -0400, "Kevin Cleary" wrote: Has anyone used this tool? I've seen a couple of videos and it seems to rough out bowls pretty easily. It would seem to be nice for cherry burls with a lot of bark. Robohippy uses on.. seems to like it.. He may comment.. If not, google this group for ezrougher or robohippy and check out the discussion we had a few months ago.. I think if I was more of a production turner, I'd make the investment, but for now I'll stick with oland tools and bowl gouges.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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"robo hippy" wrote in message ... The carbide tips on the Easy Rougher can not be resharpened in most home shops, and maybe not in any shop. $40.00 for a grinding wheel and you're in buisiness. Our diamond hones won't do enough to resharpen them. True. It uses a micro/nano grain carbide which is much finer than the stuff your saw blade teeth are made out of. Not true. Some manufactures make a big deal about their carbide being "micro grain/nanograin" when the fact is that all carbide manufactured for cutting tools is "micro grain" these days. The old stuff was pretty bad and I haven't seen that in 20 years. There are inserts you can find, but I don't think they are the same carbide. Chances are they are better. These things were meant for cutting metal. Wood cuts like butter in comparison. The $16.00 they want for new inserts for the Easy Rougher is a rip off. Go to anyplace that sells machine shop supplies, find an insert that fits (don't worry about grade, any grade will cut wood just fine) and you should be able to get them for $2.00 to 4.00 each. |
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There are different grades of nano grain carbide out there, and the
stuff most commonly found, for $2 to $4 isn't the same as the carbide on the Easy Rougher, Hunter or Eliminator tools. I do agree that $15 to $20 for replacements is a rip off. When some one finally does find their source, prices will drop. The carbide tips on my turning tools is a lot finer than what is on my saw blades. robo hippy On Aug 23, 5:53*pm, "CW" wrote: "robo hippy" wrote in message ... *The carbide tips on the Easy Rougher can not be resharpened in most home shops, and maybe not in any shop. $40.00 for a grinding wheel and you're in buisiness. Our diamond hones won't do enough to resharpen them. True. It uses a micro/nano grain carbide which is much finer than the stuff your saw blade teeth are made out of. Not true. Some manufactures make a big deal about their carbide being "micro grain/nanograin" *when the fact is that all carbide manufactured for cutting tools is "micro grain" these days. The old stuff was pretty bad and I haven't seen that in 20 years. There are inserts you can find, but I don't think they are the same carbide. Chances are they are better. These things were meant for cutting metal. Wood cuts like butter in comparison. The $16.00 they want for new inserts for the Easy Rougher is a rip off. Go to anyplace that sells machine shop supplies, find an insert that fits (don't worry about grade, any grade will cut wood just fine) and you should be able to get them for $2.00 to 4.00 each. |
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