Here's something I've been meaning to post for awhile.

Having been smitten by the stave/segmented turning bug, I've been on a quest
for creating ultra thin lines between the pieces. Formica has worked well,
but I wanted thinner (wife says I'm just never satisfied with anything!)

Walking in our local supermarket one morning, I spotted a rack with poster
board for sale at a whopping 2 for a dollar, in about a dozen different
colors. This stuff is about 1/16 thick, maybe smaller. Perhaps 80-100 lb
card stock?

Took home a few blacks, one white and one red, 2x3 feet in size.
Experimenting with white pine, I put together a small piece and low and
behold, it works! Solid as a rock. I used Elmer's Pro yellow glue for the
bonding. and lacquer for the finish. When I get around to doing a nicer
piece, I'll post pics.

Now, the white and black are perfect, while the Red (and I'll assume the
other colors as well) actually have a very small white center that subdues
the red color. So, the "red" in the line is very faint, but still there on
close examination. The card stock absorbs the glue from both sides and
literally pulls the fibers into the wood.

Contrasting CURVED lines are in the near future, and my cutting, glue-up,
prep times just got a little longer! (sigh)

Bob Crawford

As an afterthought...

Anyone ever considered taking a large stack of Newspapers, cutting pieces
into perhaps 8x8 squares, (all newsprint or all Sunday color funnies would
be interesting) gluing them together and turning a bowl or plate?

Sometimes I wish my mind had a brake pedal...

"Bob Crawford" wrote: (clip) Anyone ever considered taking a large stack
of Newspapers, cutting pieces
into perhaps 8x8 squares, (all newsprint or all Sunday color funnies would
be interesting) gluing them together and turning a bowl or plate?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No, but I did once turn a bowl on the inside of a book. When the book was
closed, it looked just like any other book. When it was open, there was a
bowl-shaped cavity. I've been accused of using it to keep my stash in
there, but I deny it.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sometimes I wish my mind had a brake pedal...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That would be a waste.

there is stuff called "fish paper" that segmented turners use for
highlighting lines - available in many colors


"Bob Crawford" wrote in message
...
Here's something I've been meaning to post for awhile.

Having been smitten by the stave/segmented turning bug, I've been on a
quest for creating ultra thin lines between the pieces. Formica has
worked well, but I wanted thinner (wife says I'm just never satisfied with
anything!)

Walking in our local supermarket one morning, I spotted a rack with poster
board for sale at a whopping 2 for a dollar, in about a dozen different
colors. This stuff is about 1/16 thick, maybe smaller. Perhaps 80-100 lb
card stock?

Took home a few blacks, one white and one red, 2x3 feet in size.
Experimenting with white pine, I put together a small piece and low and
behold, it works! Solid as a rock. I used Elmer's Pro yellow glue for
the bonding. and lacquer for the finish. When I get around to doing a
nicer piece, I'll post pics.

Now, the white and black are perfect, while the Red (and I'll assume the
other colors as well) actually have a very small white center that subdues
the red color. So, the "red" in the line is very faint, but still there
on close examination. The card stock absorbs the glue from both sides and
literally pulls the fibers into the wood.

Contrasting CURVED lines are in the near future, and my cutting, glue-up,
prep times just got a little longer! (sigh)

Bob Crawford

As an afterthought...

Anyone ever considered taking a large stack of Newspapers, cutting pieces
into perhaps 8x8 squares, (all newsprint or all Sunday color funnies would
be interesting) gluing them together and turning a bowl or plate?

Sometimes I wish my mind had a brake pedal...

"Bob Crawford" wrote in message
...
Here's something I've been meaning to post for awhile.

Having been smitten by the stave/segmented turning bug, I've been on a
quest for creating ultra thin lines between the pieces. Formica has
worked well, but I wanted thinner (wife says I'm just never satisfied with
anything!)

Walking in our local supermarket one morning, I spotted a rack with poster
board for sale at a whopping 2 for a dollar, in about a dozen different
colors. This stuff is about 1/16 thick, maybe smaller. Perhaps 80-100 lb
card stock?

Took home a few blacks, one white and one red, 2x3 feet in size.
Experimenting with white pine, I put together a small piece and low and
behold, it works! Solid as a rock. I used Elmer's Pro yellow glue for
the bonding. and lacquer for the finish. When I get around to doing a
nicer piece, I'll post pics.

Now, the white and black are perfect, while the Red (and I'll assume the
other colors as well) actually have a very small white center that subdues
the red color. So, the "red" in the line is very faint, but still there
on close examination. The card stock absorbs the glue from both sides and
literally pulls the fibers into the wood.

Contrasting CURVED lines are in the near future, and my cutting, glue-up,
prep times just got a little longer! (sigh)

Bob Crawford

As an afterthought...

Anyone ever considered taking a large stack of Newspapers, cutting pieces
into perhaps 8x8 squares, (all newsprint or all Sunday color funnies would
be interesting) gluing them together and turning a bowl or plate?

Sometimes I wish my mind had a brake pedal...

Don't.

http://www.thecardboardboatbook.com/

Veneer works nicely, and comes very thin. You can hit it with aniline
(or other, I suppose) dyes if you want colors the wood doesn't grow.

--
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by

Funny, as a teenager, I had a similar book!

Bob


"Leo Lichtman" wrote in message
...

"Bob Crawford" wrote: (clip) Anyone ever considered taking a large stack
of Newspapers, cutting pieces
into perhaps 8x8 squares, (all newsprint or all Sunday color funnies
would be interesting) gluing them together and turning a bowl or plate?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No, but I did once turn a bowl on the inside of a book. When the book was
closed, it looked just like any other book. When it was open, there was a
bowl-shaped cavity. I've been accused of using it to keep my stash in
there, but I deny it.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sometimes I wish my mind had a brake pedal...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That would be a waste.

Thanks Bill, I'll look into it. I thought the 2 for a buck thing was great,
especially for us retired folks with a slim income! lol

Bob


"Bill Noble" wrote in message
...
there is stuff called "fish paper" that segmented turners use for
highlighting lines - available in many colors


"Bob Crawford" wrote in message
...
Here's something I've been meaning to post for awhile.

Having been smitten by the stave/segmented turning bug, I've been on a
quest for creating ultra thin lines between the pieces. Formica has
worked well, but I wanted thinner (wife says I'm just never satisfied
with anything!)

Walking in our local supermarket one morning, I spotted a rack with
poster board for sale at a whopping 2 for a dollar, in about a dozen
different colors. This stuff is about 1/16 thick, maybe smaller.
Perhaps 80-100 lb card stock?

Took home a few blacks, one white and one red, 2x3 feet in size.
Experimenting with white pine, I put together a small piece and low and
behold, it works! Solid as a rock. I used Elmer's Pro yellow glue for
the bonding. and lacquer for the finish. When I get around to doing a
nicer piece, I'll post pics.

Now, the white and black are perfect, while the Red (and I'll assume the
other colors as well) actually have a very small white center that
subdues the red color. So, the "red" in the line is very faint, but
still there on close examination. The card stock absorbs the glue from
both sides and literally pulls the fibers into the wood.

Contrasting CURVED lines are in the near future, and my cutting, glue-up,
prep times just got a little longer! (sigh)

Bob Crawford

As an afterthought...

Anyone ever considered taking a large stack of Newspapers, cutting pieces
into perhaps 8x8 squares, (all newsprint or all Sunday color funnies
would be interesting) gluing them together and turning a bowl or plate?

Sometimes I wish my mind had a brake pedal...

More like "CAN'T".. lol

Bob


"LD" wrote in message
...
"Bob Crawford" wrote in message
...
Here's something I've been meaning to post for awhile.

Having been smitten by the stave/segmented turning bug, I've been on a
quest for creating ultra thin lines between the pieces. Formica has
worked well, but I wanted thinner (wife says I'm just never satisfied
with anything!)

Walking in our local supermarket one morning, I spotted a rack with
poster board for sale at a whopping 2 for a dollar, in about a dozen
different colors. This stuff is about 1/16 thick, maybe smaller.
Perhaps 80-100 lb card stock?

Took home a few blacks, one white and one red, 2x3 feet in size.
Experimenting with white pine, I put together a small piece and low and
behold, it works! Solid as a rock. I used Elmer's Pro yellow glue for
the bonding. and lacquer for the finish. When I get around to doing a
nicer piece, I'll post pics.

Now, the white and black are perfect, while the Red (and I'll assume the
other colors as well) actually have a very small white center that
subdues the red color. So, the "red" in the line is very faint, but
still there on close examination. The card stock absorbs the glue from
both sides and literally pulls the fibers into the wood.

Contrasting CURVED lines are in the near future, and my cutting, glue-up,
prep times just got a little longer! (sigh)

Bob Crawford

As an afterthought...

Anyone ever considered taking a large stack of Newspapers, cutting pieces
into perhaps 8x8 squares, (all newsprint or all Sunday color funnies
would be interesting) gluing them together and turning a bowl or plate?

Sometimes I wish my mind had a brake pedal...

Don't.

http://www.thecardboardboatbook.com/

I've not had the opp to work with veneers, yet. A bit cost prohibitive for
a retired guy. Soon though.

Bob


"Ecnerwal" wrote in message
...
Veneer works nicely, and comes very thin. You can hit it with aniline
(or other, I suppose) dyes if you want colors the wood doesn't grow.

--
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by

Bob Crawford wrote:
Here's something I've been meaning to post for awhile.

Having been smitten by the stave/segmented turning bug, I've been on a quest
for creating ultra thin lines between the pieces. Formica has worked well,
but I wanted thinner (wife says I'm just never satisfied with anything!)

Walking in our local supermarket one morning, I spotted a rack with poster
board for sale at a whopping 2 for a dollar, in about a dozen different
colors. This stuff is about 1/16 thick, maybe smaller. Perhaps 80-100 lb
card stock?

Took home a few blacks, one white and one red, 2x3 feet in size.
Experimenting with white pine, I put together a small piece and low and
behold, it works! Solid as a rock. I used Elmer's Pro yellow glue for the
bonding. and lacquer for the finish. When I get around to doing a nicer
piece, I'll post pics.

Now, the white and black are perfect, while the Red (and I'll assume the
other colors as well) actually have a very small white center that subdues
the red color. So, the "red" in the line is very faint, but still there on
close examination. The card stock absorbs the glue from both sides and
literally pulls the fibers into the wood.

Contrasting CURVED lines are in the near future, and my cutting, glue-up,
prep times just got a little longer! (sigh)

Bob Crawford

As an afterthought...

Anyone ever considered taking a large stack of Newspapers, cutting pieces
into perhaps 8x8 squares, (all newsprint or all Sunday color funnies would
be interesting) gluing them together and turning a bowl or plate?

Sometimes I wish my mind had a brake pedal...



A guy I know used a beer can between segments. Looked nice.

Find an old dresser out on the curb. I removed a top from a dresser and
soaked it in a bath tub of hot water and soaked off the veinier than
dried it between two boards with clamps.I used the veinier to build a
cathedral radio cabinet for my sterio . Looks real and sounds great.

THE SHADOW KNOWS !!!
Jerry


http://community.webtv.net/awoodbutc...oodWorkingPage



http://community.webtv.net/awoodbutcher/1974RuppCentair

"Jerry - OHIO" wrote in message
...
Find an old dresser out on the curb. I removed a top from a dresser and
soaked it in a bath tub of hot water and soaked off the veinier than
dried it between two boards with clamps.I used the veinier to build a
cathedral radio cabinet for my sterio . Looks real and sounds great.


Also check used furniture places for good wood or veneer that has been
painted over. Many years ago I found a little painted dresser that turned
out to have a birds eye maple veneer top.

LD - Middle name 'Skinflint'

"Dave Balderstone" wrote in message
news:120820090910318034%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderst one.ca...
In article , sbnjhfty
wrote:

A guy I know used a beer can between segments. Looked nice.

Brass shim stock

Colored plastic binder cover


CDs?

Having been smitten by the stave/segmented turning bug, I've been on a quest
for creating ultra thin lines between the pieces. Formica has worked well,
but I wanted thinner (wife says I'm just never satisfied with anything!)

for ultra ultra thin you can use a magic marker - just colour the wood
before you glue up the segments and the line will show in the finished
product.

On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:03:40 -0500, Bob Crawford wrote
(in message ):

Here's something I've been meaning to post for awhile.

Having been smitten by the stave/segmented turning bug, I've been on a quest
for creating ultra thin lines between the pieces. Formica has worked well,
but I wanted thinner (wife says I'm just never satisfied with anything!)

Walking in our local supermarket one morning, I spotted a rack with poster
board for sale at a whopping 2 for a dollar, in about a dozen different
colors. This stuff is about 1/16 thick, maybe smaller. Perhaps 80-100 lb
card stock?

Took home a few blacks, one white and one red, 2x3 feet in size.
Experimenting with white pine, I put together a small piece and low and
behold, it works! Solid as a rock. I used Elmer's Pro yellow glue for the
bonding. and lacquer for the finish. When I get around to doing a nicer
piece, I'll post pics.

Now, the white and black are perfect, while the Red (and I'll assume the
other colors as well) actually have a very small white center that subdues
the red color. So, the "red" in the line is very faint, but still there on
close examination. The card stock absorbs the glue from both sides and
literally pulls the fibers into the wood.

Contrasting CURVED lines are in the near future, and my cutting, glue-up,
prep times just got a little longer! (sigh)

Bob Crawford

As an afterthought...

Anyone ever considered taking a large stack of Newspapers, cutting pieces
into perhaps 8x8 squares, (all newsprint or all Sunday color funnies would
be interesting) gluing them together and turning a bowl or plate?

Sometimes I wish my mind had a brake pedal...



First, don't consider a brake pedal.

Second, please be aware that paper that is glued up between two wood surfaces
is an old and well-used method of splitting apart a turning. Yes, it looks
great, but it is also a weakness in your product. (I use brown paper grocery
bags) If its job is to just sit and look pretty, that is fine. If someone
decides to use this thing, it may be liable to damage.

As another poster here suggested, dye the surface (that will be glued later
in making up your woodblock) and when the project is turned, a very thin
colored line will show up. The glued (and dyed) surface is wood-to-wood, and
so will be as strong as any other glued part of your project.

tom koehler

--
I will find a way or make one.

On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:37:18 -0500, tom koehler wrote:

As another poster here suggested, dye the surface (that will be glued
later in making up your woodblock) and when the project is turned, a
very thin colored line will show up. The glued (and dyed) surface is
wood-to-wood, and so will be as strong as any other glued part of your
project.

Actually, I'd question the "as strong" part. The adsorption of the dye
reduces the adsorption of the glue. Maybe a very minor amount, maybe
more.

If any reader has done some sort of testing on this, or knows of some
tests, I'm sure we'd all be interested in the results. I mean testing
with measuring equipment, not just "it worked (or didn't) for me."

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:31:50 -0500, Larry Blanchard wrote
(in message ):

On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:37:18 -0500, tom koehler wrote:

As another poster here suggested, dye the surface (that will be glued
later in making up your woodblock) and when the project is turned, a
very thin colored line will show up. The glued (and dyed) surface is
wood-to-wood, and so will be as strong as any other glued part of your
project.

Actually, I'd question the "as strong" part. The adsorption of the dye
reduces the adsorption of the glue. Maybe a very minor amount, maybe
more.

If any reader has done some sort of testing on this, or knows of some
tests, I'm sure we'd all be interested in the results. I mean testing
with measuring equipment, not just "it worked (or didn't) for me."



You are right to question the "as strong" part, of course. My thinking was
that a wood-to-wood glue joint would be stronger than a wood-to-paper-to-wood
joint. My only experience in this being my own use of paper in a glued joint
for the purpose of easily splitting a turning into two pieces along the paper
joint.

The nature of the dye effects on a colored wood surface will depend entirely
on the nature of the dye, I guess. I have used aniline dyes - either powderd
and mixed with alcohol, or liquid and diluted with alcohol - to color wood.
The alcohol allows the coloring agents to penetrate and disperse in the wood
fibers, and then the alcohol evaporates, leaving the color behind.

It is true that some stains use various oils as a vehicle to carry the
coloring agents, and a volatile solvent to thin out the vehicle. When the
solvent evaporates, the vehicle and coloring agents are left behind. The oil
will polymerize, and form a thin skin, which will affect how the glue would
stick.

I should have specified an alcohol-type liquid for carrying the colorant, as
is often used in some commonly available dyes.

I earnestly hope I have cleared my intentions in this thread without rankling
any of the contributors here.
tom koehler


--
I will find a way or make one.