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Hello Turners,
Are there any species of wood that would be toxic to eat on. I have some Bloodwood, Chatke Kok, Purple Heart and Eastern Red Cedar and Red Oak. I'd like to turn some bowls, some tea cups, sake cups and spurtles (for stirring porridge/oatmeal) Kingwood looks good too. Tea and Sake are served hot, and well you know about oatmeal. I've done spurtles in Maple, nice wood. Oh yeah, Cocobolo is beautiful also. Can I eat from these woods? Thanks, Taka |
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Taka writes: Red Oak. Red oak is porous - liquids would leak out, and you'd have a hard time cleaning the food out of the tiny holes. You'd need a finish that would fill the pores, and then you have to worry about the finish too. Now white oak - they make wine barrels out of that, so it "must be safe" to use :-) |
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Here are a couple of lists that might be helpful.
http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/roche/...isc/wood.toxic http://www.woodturner.org/resources/toxicity.cfm http://www.thewoodbox.com/data/wood/toxicityinfo.htm http://www.awwg.org/awg_woodtoxicity.htm OK, so I can't count (that is more than a couple). Hope these sights help. More available by searching "wood toxicity" on the web. JD -- He that will make a good use of any part of his life must allow a large portion of it to recreation. - John Locke "DJ Delorie" wrote in message ... Taka writes: Red Oak. Red oak is porous - liquids would leak out, and you'd have a hard time cleaning the food out of the tiny holes. You'd need a finish that would fill the pores, and then you have to worry about the finish too. Now white oak - they make wine barrels out of that, so it "must be safe" to use :-) |
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Hi JD, Thank you very much for the resources. I found those same sites when I Googled "wood toxicity". To be honest they give a lot of information about wood dust. Not much there about, "OK, let's make a bowl out of Bloodwood and eat our Cheerios out of it and then fall on the floor because Bloodwood is toxic." Oak barrels, and maple sugar and walnuts in cookies and now I'm just guessing. The woods I want to use are exotic, i.e. they are from far away. Please understand, I've searched, "hot wine bloodwood cup death", no hits, LOL. "bloodwood barrel" gets you a miniature artwork barrel, cute, no wine. Cocobolo dust can seriously impair some people, it they drank hot Sake from a Cocobolo cup would they get sick? No one seems to know. Here's one for you: "Vicki S. Wood, one of the Milams' lawyers, said the couple were victims of chromated copper arsenate, or C.C.A., the predominant wood preservative in the United States and the subject of an emerging body of product liability lawsuits around the country. Some of the lumber for the Milams' two-story cabin frame had been treated with C.C.A., which prevents decay and repels termites. It also contains arsenic." OK, CCA is BAD. Is it in Chatke Kok? Probably not. This is WAAAAY more complicated than just making small bowls. LOL Thanks for your help. Taka On Apr 13, 8:14 pm, "JD" wrote: Here are a couple of lists that might be helpful. http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/roche/...odtoxicity.htm OK, so I can't count (that is more than a couple). Hope these sights help. More available by searching "wood toxicity" on the web. JD -- He that will make a good use of any part of his life must allow a large portion of it to recreation. - John Locke "DJ Delorie" wrote in message ... Taka writes: Red Oak. Red oak is porous - liquids would leak out, and you'd have a hard time cleaning the food out of the tiny holes. You'd need a finish that would fill the pores, and then you have to worry about the finish too. Now white oak - they make wine barrels out of that, so it "must be safe" to use :-) |
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avoid anything from the deadly nightshade family, and probably anything from
Australia (sorry guys, but the nasty australian stuff is so especially nasty that it's safer just to avoid it all when food is the issue) "Taka" wrote in message ... Hello Turners, Are there any species of wood that would be toxic to eat on. I have some Bloodwood, Chatke Kok, Purple Heart and Eastern Red Cedar and Red Oak. I'd like to turn some bowls, some tea cups, sake cups and spurtles (for stirring porridge/oatmeal) Kingwood looks good too. Tea and Sake are served hot, and well you know about oatmeal. I've done spurtles in Maple, nice wood. Oh yeah, Cocobolo is beautiful also. Can I eat from these woods? Thanks, Taka ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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Hi Taka, I guess hemlock trees aren't toxic like poison hemlock
plants, but I wouldn't turn a cup out of it and label it. Except for a member of "The Hemlock Society" a 'cup of hemlock' might be a turnoff for a customer or giftee. OTOH, it could be a novelty mate cup. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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I knew there was a reason I did not eat carrots.
Bruce Ralph E Lindberg wrote: In article , (Arch) wrote: Hi Taka, I guess hemlock trees aren't toxic like poison hemlock plants, but I wouldn't turn a cup out of it and label it. Except for a member of "The Hemlock Society" a 'cup of hemlock' might be a turnoff for a customer or giftee. OTOH, it could be a novelty mate cup. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings Tree Hemlock is an evergreen, not related to poison hemlock (which is in the carrot family) |
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In article
Taka writes: Hello Turners, Are there any species of wood that would be toxic to eat on. I have I wanted to latch on to this thread to ask about black locust. I see in the pages recently referenced that the leaves and bark are toxic, and apparently the sawdust isn't to be taken lightly. But once the work is done and the dust is cleaned off, is a black locust bowl a bad thing to put food in? Would it matter if it was popcorn vs. dip? I finally figured out that my recent acquisition is black locust (thrown off by it being such a non-black wood), and I want to be certain what I should aim at making. -- Drew Lawson And I know there's more to the story I know I need to see more I need to see s'more, hear s'more feel s'more. I gotta be s'more |
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On Apr 15, 11:28*am, (Drew Lawson) wrote:
In article * * * * Taka writes: Hello Turners, Are there any species of wood that would be toxic to eat on. I have I wanted to latch on to this thread to ask about black locust. I see in the pages recently referenced that the leaves and bark are toxic, and apparently the sawdust isn't to be taken lightly. *But I have never had any problems with wood being poisonous, or the eating/ drinking from it, all these are mostly N.American woods, though I've turned and used a few tropicals as well. Here's a small clipping about the black locust poison, btw the flowers are considered edible. : "various reports have suggested that the seeds and the young pods of the black locust can be edible when cooked, since the poisons that are contained in this plant are decomposed by heat." So it seems if you want to eat the wood, you'd have to heat it first ;-))) Some of my turnings are here, http://homepage.mac.com/l.vanderloo/PhotoAlbum26.html Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo once the work is done and the dust is cleaned off, is a black locust bowl a bad thing to put food in? *Would it matter if it was popcorn vs. dip? I finally figured out that my recent acquisition is black locust (thrown off by it being such a non-black wood), and I want to be certain what I should aim at making. -- *Drew Lawson * * * * * * * And I know there's more to the story * * * * * * * * * * * * * *I know I need to see more * * * * * I need to see s'more, hear s'more * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *feel s'more. *I gotta be s'more |
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