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Newbie and Christmas Gift
While I'm a regular reader and infrequent poster over at the rec.woodworking
news group. I'm a newbie here. After years of asking me "Why don't you get a lathe?" my beloved bride took the problem into her own hands. There was a Jet JWL-1642-2EVS under the tree. Well, sort of. It is supposed to be delivered in a week or so. I can hardly wait. I've always been interested in turning, but thought I had enough to learn in the flat arena. Thanks in advance for all the advice I'm going to get here, and thanks for putting up with a double gloat (lathe and bride). -- Doug |
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Doug:
There may be a method in her madness. Flatwork requires a fair amount of stationary equiptment which, in turn, require a fair amount of floor space. Then there are all the hand held power tools AND hand held hand tools. And flatwork requires a lot more wood than turned work (she apparently isn't aware of the need for piles and piles of drying logs and logettes and "turned green waiting to dry for final turning) - along with space to store it. Then there's the noise and sawdust issue - turning is quiet - relatively speaking (turn on a planer or router). You'll soon discover that turning is the Crack Cocaine of woodworking - relatively inexpensive, almost instant rush (relative to making a dresser or credenza), an infinite number of possibilities. So coat your other stationary tools with cosmoline because, other than your table saw a miter saw, they're going to be sitting unused for a while. And that 4/4 and 3/4" maple, mahogany, ash, beech etc. wide boards you've got stashed away. They'll get cut up for turning blanks and segments of segmented pieces. Be prepared to justify a second, third and fourth scroll chuck - AND all the "extra - when your bride asks "You've already got a chuck. WHY do you need another one?" And be prepared to answer her other question "You've already got more turning gouges and chisel than any person would ever need - so WHY do you "need" another one?". Now if she's already asking "Why are you starting another project when my coffee table isn't done yet?" expect her to ask similar questions about all those "turned green and drying" pieces sitting on shelves everywhere and the piece you're working on at the moment. Oh - and if she was less than pleased with all the sawdust and chips flat work generates - she's gonna love the copious quantities of chips and curlies that turning generates. With flat work maybe 10 percent of what you started with ends up as scraps and sawdust. With turning, 90 to 95 percent ends up - all over hell. If she's already noting finish and stain stains on your shop clothes, she's REALLY going to notice them once you start finishing your turnings. Finishing with the piece turning at 500 to 1000 rpms can fling the finish a LONG ways - all over hell. I'm betting that with flatwork, you've never glued two or more of your fingers/thumbs together. That will change once you start using CA/Super Glue. Try and look helpless and pitiful when you do that. Better to go for sympathy than ridicule / hysterical laughter. Woodworking has so many slippery slopes. Turning is the steap, Teflon coated slippery slope. Enjoy the exhilerating ride - and know there is no bottom of this slope - it goes on FOREVER! charlie b |
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Welcome, Doug, to the zoo. Remember , "My anme is Doug and I have a
problem...." Seriously, this is the most addictive form of wood working ever. However, a welcoming word while you wait for the lathe. It needs tools and they need sharpening more than any others in the shop. I have seen me sharpen a gouge every minute for a plywood bowl (notice I hardly ever turn plywood?) The sharpening technique is different than that of any other tool in the shop. While you wait for the lathe, make a sharpening jig. Trust me on this one. Keep your wife happy by not having her listen to you complain about the butcher job you do on your new gouges. We have all been there. Come on over to the site and make the jig. I have nothing to sell, but there is a free video. http://www.aroundthewoods.com/sharpening01.html Have fun and keep us posted on the new lathe. Happy New Year -- God bless and safe turning Darrell Feltmate Truro, NS Canada http://aroundthewoods.com http://roundopinions.blogspot.com "charlieb" wrote in message ... Doug: There may be a method in her madness. Flatwork requires a fair amount of stationary equiptment which, in turn, require a fair amount of floor space. Then there are all the hand held power tools AND hand held hand tools. And flatwork requires a lot more wood than turned work (she apparently isn't aware of the need for piles and piles of drying logs and logettes and "turned green waiting to dry for final turning) - along with space to store it. Then there's the noise and sawdust issue - turning is quiet - relatively speaking (turn on a planer or router). You'll soon discover that turning is the Crack Cocaine of woodworking - relatively inexpensive, almost instant rush (relative to making a dresser or credenza), an infinite number of possibilities. So coat your other stationary tools with cosmoline because, other than your table saw a miter saw, they're going to be sitting unused for a while. And that 4/4 and 3/4" maple, mahogany, ash, beech etc. wide boards you've got stashed away. They'll get cut up for turning blanks and segments of segmented pieces. Be prepared to justify a second, third and fourth scroll chuck - AND all the "extra - when your bride asks "You've already got a chuck. WHY do you need another one?" And be prepared to answer her other question "You've already got more turning gouges and chisel than any person would ever need - so WHY do you "need" another one?". Now if she's already asking "Why are you starting another project when my coffee table isn't done yet?" expect her to ask similar questions about all those "turned green and drying" pieces sitting on shelves everywhere and the piece you're working on at the moment. Oh - and if she was less than pleased with all the sawdust and chips flat work generates - she's gonna love the copious quantities of chips and curlies that turning generates. With flat work maybe 10 percent of what you started with ends up as scraps and sawdust. With turning, 90 to 95 percent ends up - all over hell. If she's already noting finish and stain stains on your shop clothes, she's REALLY going to notice them once you start finishing your turnings. Finishing with the piece turning at 500 to 1000 rpms can fling the finish a LONG ways - all over hell. I'm betting that with flatwork, you've never glued two or more of your fingers/thumbs together. That will change once you start using CA/Super Glue. Try and look helpless and pitiful when you do that. Better to go for sympathy than ridicule / hysterical laughter. Woodworking has so many slippery slopes. Turning is the steap, Teflon coated slippery slope. Enjoy the exhilerating ride - and know there is no bottom of this slope - it goes on FOREVER! charlie b |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 11:00:24 -0600, Douglas Johnson wrote:
While I'm a regular reader and infrequent poster over at the rec.woodworking news group. I'm a newbie here. After years of asking me "Why don't you get a lathe?" my beloved bride took the problem into her own hands. There was a Jet JWL-1642-2EVS under the tree. Well, sort of. It is supposed to be delivered in a week or so. I can hardly wait. I've always been interested in turning, but thought I had enough to learn in the flat arena. Thanks in advance for all the advice I'm going to get here, and thanks for putting up with a double gloat (lathe and bride). -- Doug WOW.. quite a newbie lathe, Doug! My brother just moved up to that same lathe from his 1442VS, which is the lathe that I use... He really likes it and it should be very good to you... have a ball, just be safe, ok? Oh.. welcome to the addiction...... mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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On Dec 26, 12:00*pm, Douglas Johnson wrote:
After years of asking me "Why don't you get a lathe?" my beloved bride took the problem into her own hands. *There was a Jet JWL-1642-2EVS under the tree. -- Doug Hi Doug, I say send er back. (the lathe not the bride) Call up tomorrow and cancel that order. Once you start woodturning the woodworking will take a back seat. Just today I pulled out a shaker clock that I started building 8-9 years ago to see what I needed to finish it up. It's the first flat woodworking I've done in all this time. Well except for building stands for my lathes, shelves for blanks and racks for turning tools. Tomorrow I'm going to set the clock back in the corner where it's spent the last 9 years because I have woodturnings I want to work on. The upside is the clock will be an antique by the time I finish it. You've been warned! :-) Bob http://www.outofcontrol-woodturning.com |
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