Home |
Search |
Today's Posts |
|
Woodturning (rec.crafts.woodturning) To discuss tools, techniques, styles, materials, shows and competitions, education and educational materials related to woodturning. All skill levels are welcome, from art turners to production turners, beginners to masters. |
Reply |
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
Posted to rec.crafts.woodturning
|
|||
|
|||
An innocent at Harbor Freight... musing too far outside the box?
Did hard time trying to separate the bargains from the junk at Harbor
Freight this morning. Met a pool cue maker who was buying a lathe for sanding & polishing only. He gave me the cast iron outboard extension. (gloat) It's 8" overall, 5" ways plus 3" gap and is quite heavy. I plan to use a junked banjo that will hold a 1" tool post and turn some 'big platters'. Should I bolt it in line with the bed of my N3k (180 deg. headstock swivel) or a right angle (90 deg. swivel) to it? How much increased swing greater than a N3k's 16" should I consider safe for turning platters? Hundred pound lift magnetic grounding blocks on sale at H.F. today. Mused about welding (would it destroy the magnetism?) a spindle nut or holding with a bolt in a Jacob's chuck or securing a MT2 arbor to the top. Then by screwing a 1/4" slice of 3" CRS bar to a wood blank hold the blank on the spindle via the magnet. Eureka! A permanent magnet 'knockoff' of a vacuum chuck? If you can stop laughing (or gagging) long enough and _nevermind_ whether my 'magnetic chuck' is any better or worse than faceplates or a dozen other work holding methods, tell me if you _think it might work, forgetting safety and usefulness and all that other unimportant stuff. Caution: THIS A DANGEROUSLY INVALID QUESTION AND NOT A SUGGESTION. DO _NOT_ TRY IT Been asked to turn several 'artistic' copies of coconuts... don't know why the real & natural nut (no, not me!) isn't preferable? I thought to turn an oblong sphere with one end blunted and carve the natural details, but I've never done this. Saw a arbortech (blade) and a Lancelot (chain) at H.F., each about the same price. If using one of these is a good idea what are your comparisons re safety, utility, etc.? If neither is a good idea, how should I carve a faux coconut? Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
#2
Posted to rec.crafts.woodturning
|
|||
|
|||
An innocent at Harbor Freight... musing too far outside the box?
|
#3
Posted to rec.crafts.woodturning
|
|||
|
|||
An innocent at Harbor Freight... musing too far outside the box?
"Ecnerwal" wrote: (clip) Plus, you might be amazed how much stuff can slide around while being magnetically grabbed, when you start pushing tools into it. Fugedaboutit. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What he said. If, somehow, you get a magnet strong enough to prevent slipping, how will you get it off or adjust the position when you need to so so deliberately? Those magnetic dial gauge holders are provided with a lever that is connedted to some sort of release mechanism inside. |
#4
Posted to rec.crafts.woodturning
|
|||
|
|||
An innocent at Harbor Freight... musing too far outside thebox?
Thanks Ec. and Leo, Shot down again, but I enjoyed my nanosecond of
fame and I'm glad I didn't buy the grounding block. I probably couldn't get the blank off the magnet and like 'Charlie beneath the streets of Boston on the MTA" they would go round forever. Oh well, a controlled magnetic slide & release mechanism might be the basis for a new sliding oval chuck. It'll be less noisy and I'll be famous again for the picosecond .... until it explodes! Wonder how many successful inventors hear my footsteps? Eh, don't answer that. Actually, I would appreciate some advice and info re comparisons of Lancelots and Arbotechs by anyone using them. Also some advice on how to make artsy green coconuts, if anyone has done so. Probably similar to apples, pears and such, but before I get started, it's best to ask. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
#5
Posted to rec.crafts.woodturning
|
|||
|
|||
An innocent at Harbor Freight... musing too far outside thebox?
"Arch" wrote in message ... Thanks Ec. and Leo, Shot down again, but I enjoyed my nanosecond of fame and I'm glad I didn't buy the grounding block. I probably couldn't get the blank off the magnet and like 'Charlie beneath the streets of Boston on the MTA" they would go round forever. No worry, you would have thrown them away in disgust after trying to weld them. Exotic alloys featuring nickle, cobalt and rare earths would have done some spectacular stuff under a flame. Remember your chemistry labs? I presume they want the husked coconut look? Coat the real thing in resin. Carbide burrs and die grinders for me. They remove flesh slower. |
#6
Posted to rec.crafts.woodturning
|
|||
|
|||
An innocent at Harbor Freight... musing too far outside the box?
Arch, My understanding of the specs for the Nova 3000 is an outboard swing of 23". I once did a 16" platter, outboard on my old Delta Homecraft (10" swing). The slowest speed was something like 875 rpm and the wind generated was something. The 3K gets down to 250 rpm so I bet 23" is not a problem if the blank isn't too out of true. Larry |
#7
Posted to rec.crafts.woodturning
|
|||
|
|||
An innocent at Harbor Freight... musing too far outside thebox?
George, The grounding blocks have a removable steel shroud or cap. I
had wondered about welding a fitment to it. The faux coconuts are for a 'fern room' to look like the green nuts as they are taken from the tree. Why?...Because! Go figure the nouveau riche and their interior decorators. Like taste. in matters of wealth there is no dispute. Larry, My N3k is VS and can start near zero rpm. I reckon you are right. I should be ok staying within the specs for using the Nova outboard toolrest. They seem overpriced to me and I had tried to buy a used one plus an extra toolrest. Anyone? Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
#8
Posted to rec.crafts.woodturning
|
|||
|
|||
An innocent at Harbor Freight... musing too far outside the box?
On 10 Feb 2006 04:34:44 -0800, "ebd" wrote:
Arch, My understanding of the specs for the Nova 3000 is an outboard swing of 23". I once did a 16" platter, outboard on my old Delta Homecraft (10" swing). The slowest speed was something like 875 rpm and the wind generated was something. The 3K gets down to 250 rpm so I bet 23" is not a problem if the blank isn't too out of true. Larry I did a 13" blank on my Jet 1442 last night... min speed is about 450, which was nice enough for cutting the tenon and stuff, but when it came to truing the outside edge it got pretty interesting... felt like I was at buffing speed.. Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm |
#9
Posted to rec.crafts.woodturning
|
|||
|
|||
An innocent at Harbor Freight... musing too far outside the box?
"mac davis" wrote in message ... I did a 13" blank on my Jet 1442 last night... min speed is about 450, which was nice enough for cutting the tenon and stuff, but when it came to truing the outside edge it got pretty interesting... felt like I was at buffing speed.. Finished turned a 15+ platter on the 3000 last night. Seemed a bit jumpy, then when I finished I noticed I was at 650. Oh well, after some of the pieces I worked on Ol' Blue at 688 minimum, I guess I don't pucker as tightly any more. |
#10
Posted to rec.crafts.woodturning
|
|||
|
|||
An innocent at Harbor Freight... musing too far outside the box?
Finished turned a 15+ platter on the 3000 last night. Seemed a bit jumpy,
then when I finished I noticed I was at 650. Oh well, after some of the pieces I worked on Ol' Blue at 688 minimum, I guess I don't pucker as tightly any more. ...it just goes to show ya' speed is relative... |
#11
Posted to rec.crafts.woodturning
|
|||
|
|||
An innocent at Harbor Freight... musing too far outside the box?
Arch
I have turned 18" platters on my Craftsman and the minimum speed is 400 rpm. I think I was turning about 800 but I no longer know for sure. My largest on the Record bowl lathe was 18" and its lowest speed is 575 rpm. Record says you can turn up to 24" and used to say up to 36", I believe. I am neither 24" stupid nor certainly not 36" crazy. :-) -- God bless and safe turning Darrell Feltmate Truro, NS Canada www.aroundthewoods.com |
#12
Posted to rec.crafts.woodturning
|
|||
|
|||
An innocent at Harbor Freight... musing too far outside thebox?
As examples that aren't quite comparable, (Stubby has a different
approach with its movable bed) I think the Stubby has a 90 deg, to the headstock bolt on short bed and the Oneway has a 180 deg. outboard bed extension. Also some of you have probably cobbled your own versions. How about some opinions, corrections and advice as where best to put my 8" bed extension (omitting bathroom humor just this once). I could add it to my swivel head N3k or to my fixed head "old Delta". Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
#13
Posted to rec.crafts.woodturning
|
|||
|
|||
An innocent at Harbor Freight... musing too far outside the box?
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:46:29 -0500, "George" George@least wrote:
"mac davis" wrote in message .. . I did a 13" blank on my Jet 1442 last night... min speed is about 450, which was nice enough for cutting the tenon and stuff, but when it came to truing the outside edge it got pretty interesting... felt like I was at buffing speed.. Finished turned a 15+ platter on the 3000 last night. Seemed a bit jumpy, then when I finished I noticed I was at 650. Oh well, after some of the pieces I worked on Ol' Blue at 688 minimum, I guess I don't pucker as tightly any more. damn.. that outside rim must have been playing centrifuge! Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm |
Reply |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Forum | |||
An acronym free musing about hired turners. L&S(long and silly) | Woodturning | |||
Not a musing but a wondering | Woodturning | |||
Another long & confused musing | Woodturning | |||
Musing about books and stuff | Woodturning | |||
Musing re growth of associations (long and not requested) | Woodturning |