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LDD question
Lief or Dave (or LDD advocate)
When using LDD on wood that won't be turned immediately, must the wood be left in LDD solution until turned, or can it be applied similarly to Anchorseal? Can you just slather it onto the end grain and get adequate splitting control, or is it better to use regular end sealer until ready to turn? I just got some mountain juniper from my son that looks pretty interesting, but it will be next month before I can get to it, and I have no Anchorseal. What say you gurus?? Ken Moon Webberville, TX. |
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Hi Ken
No I'm not a ldd advocate, I would stick the wood in a plastic bag and maybe have a look at it weekly till I could turn it, you could also paint the ends with a couple'o layers of paint, that does work also but not as well as anchor seal, if you insist on ldd you will have to keep it in there, and wear it when you turn the wood G called a soapy shower. Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo Ken Moon wrote: Lief or Dave (or LDD advocate) When using LDD on wood that won't be turned immediately, must the wood be left in LDD solution until turned, or can it be applied similarly to Anchorseal? Can you just slather it onto the end grain and get adequate splitting control, or is it better to use regular end sealer until ready to turn? I just got some mountain juniper from my son that looks pretty interesting, but it will be next month before I can get to it, and I have no Anchorseal. What say you gurus?? Ken Moon Webberville, TX. |
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Ken Moon wrote:
Lief or Dave (or LDD advocate) When using LDD on wood that won't be turned immediately, must the wood be left in LDD solution until turned, or can it be applied similarly to Anchorseal? Can you just slather it onto the end grain and get adequate splitting control, or is it better to use regular end sealer until ready to turn? I just got some mountain juniper from my son that looks pretty interesting, but it will be next month before I can get to it, and I have no Anchorseal. What say you gurus?? Hi Ken, The best way to deal with it would be to put it into a buck that will just barely hold it and cover it with 50:50 LDD and water. Leave it in there until you're ready to turn it. When you want to use it, pull it and wipe it off well. Otherwise the irreverance that Leo mentioned will be true. The shower part, that is. You can let it drip dry on a cookie rack set on top of the bucket if you'd prefer, a couple hours should get it dry enough to be less messy. I turn outside so it isn't an issue for me, but if you're inside, like most normal people, a couple of shower curtains from the $ sotre in front and behind the lathe should catch any soap that gets slung around. HTH, Dave in Fairfax -- reply-to doesn't work use: daveldr at att dot net American Association of Woodturners http://www.woodturner.org Capital Area Woodturners http://www.capwoodturners.org/ PATINA http://www.patinatools.org |
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"Ken Moon" wrote in message ink.net... Lief or Dave (or LDD advocate) When using LDD on wood that won't be turned immediately, must the wood be left in LDD solution until turned, or can it be applied similarly to Anchorseal? Can you just slather it onto the end grain and get adequate splitting control, or is it better to use regular end sealer until ready to turn? I just got some mountain juniper from my son that looks pretty interesting, but it will be next month before I can get to it, and I have no Anchorseal. What say you gurus?? Ken Moon Webberville, TX. Ken: LDD doesn't do a lick of good as an endsealer. I have tried it along with other turners and the results were the same. The most effective is Anchorseal. Others have used melted paraffin wax, latex paint, WD40 and prayer. When I was actively turning, I would cut the wood in as long a section as I could handle, paint the ends with Anchorseal, if I had it; otherwise, I would let the wood ends split as they would until I was ready to use it. Then I'd just trim off the ends to get to whole wood, cut a turning blank and then immerse in LDD until I was ready to turn it and then follow the steps outlined in "The World-famous Treatise on LDD." If you had only a few small chunks/blanks you could make a vat full of LDD and keep them immersed, turning them every few days to keep all the wood coated with LDD. Otherwise, do as Leo says about the old dark-ages way of preparing wood for turning! *G* Leif |
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"Leif Thorvaldson" wrote in message ... "Ken Moon" wrote in message ink.net... Lief or Dave (or LDD advocate) When using LDD on wood that won't be turned immediately, must the wood be left in LDD solution until turned, or can it be applied similarly to Anchorseal? Can you just slather it onto the end grain and get adequate splitting control, or is it better to use regular end sealer until ready to turn? I just got some mountain juniper from my son that looks pretty interesting, but it will be next month before I can get to it, and I have no Anchorseal. What say you gurus?? Ken Moon Webberville, TX. Ken: LDD doesn't do a lick of good as an endsealer. I have tried it along with other turners and the results were the same. The most effective is Anchorseal. Others have used melted paraffin wax, latex paint, WD40 and prayer. When I was actively turning, I would cut the wood in as long a section as I could handle, paint the ends with Anchorseal, if I had it; otherwise, I would let the wood ends split as they would until I was ready to use it. Then I'd just trim off the ends to get to whole wood, cut a turning blank and then immerse in LDD until I was ready to turn it and then follow the steps outlined in "The World-famous Treatise on LDD." If you had only a few small chunks/blanks you could make a vat full of LDD and keep them immersed, turning them every few days to keep all the wood coated with LDD. Otherwise, do as Leo says about the old dark-ages way of preparing wood for turning! *G* =========================== HI Gang, Thanks for the replys! I didn't think it would work as an end sealer, but since I'm out of Anchorseal and the only latex paint I have available right now is what my wife has earmarked for some of her projects. Guess I'll have to make a trip to Woodcraft and get some of their sealer. Just thought if it would work, it would be a lot quicker and cheaper. Ken Moon Webberville, TX. |
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 04:34:20 GMT, "Ken Moon" wrote:
Ken.. fill suitable container (bathtub, spa, pool, etc.) with 1 part LDD and 2 parts water, stir not shake, place logs in container with sacrificial plank on top to keep submerged.. Remove when needed, prop up on plank over night to drain and use log.... did I get that right, Madge?? *g* "Leif Thorvaldson" wrote in message ... "Ken Moon" wrote in message ink.net... Lief or Dave (or LDD advocate) When using LDD on wood that won't be turned immediately, must the wood be left in LDD solution until turned, or can it be applied similarly to Anchorseal? Can you just slather it onto the end grain and get adequate splitting control, or is it better to use regular end sealer until ready to turn? I just got some mountain juniper from my son that looks pretty interesting, but it will be next month before I can get to it, and I have no Anchorseal. What say you gurus?? Ken Moon Webberville, TX. Ken: LDD doesn't do a lick of good as an endsealer. I have tried it along with other turners and the results were the same. The most effective is Anchorseal. Others have used melted paraffin wax, latex paint, WD40 and prayer. When I was actively turning, I would cut the wood in as long a section as I could handle, paint the ends with Anchorseal, if I had it; otherwise, I would let the wood ends split as they would until I was ready to use it. Then I'd just trim off the ends to get to whole wood, cut a turning blank and then immerse in LDD until I was ready to turn it and then follow the steps outlined in "The World-famous Treatise on LDD." If you had only a few small chunks/blanks you could make a vat full of LDD and keep them immersed, turning them every few days to keep all the wood coated with LDD. Otherwise, do as Leo says about the old dark-ages way of preparing wood for turning! *G* =========================== HI Gang, Thanks for the replys! I didn't think it would work as an end sealer, but since I'm out of Anchorseal and the only latex paint I have available right now is what my wife has earmarked for some of her projects. Guess I'll have to make a trip to Woodcraft and get some of their sealer. Just thought if it would work, it would be a lot quicker and cheaper. Ken Moon Webberville, TX. mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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"mac davis" wrote in message ... On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 04:34:20 GMT, "Ken Moon" wrote: Ken.. fill suitable container (bathtub, spa, pool, etc.) with 1 part LDD and 2 parts water, stir not shake, place logs in container with sacrificial plank on top to keep submerged.. Remove when needed, prop up on plank over night to drain and use log.... did I get that right, Madge?? *g* That might work, although I'd suggest a 1:1 ratio of the solution. If the idea of purchasing five hundred gallons of LDD is daunting, you can always do what they did in the saw mills here in WA and just use a mill pond with plain water. Of course, that could ruin your backyard, but then again, you could always use it as a swimming hole for the kids. *G* Madge (Channeled through Leif) |
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"Leif Thorvaldson" wrote in message ... "mac davis" wrote in message ... On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 04:34:20 GMT, "Ken Moon" wrote: Ken.. fill suitable container (bathtub, spa, pool, etc.) with 1 part LDD and 2 parts water, stir not shake, place logs in container with sacrificial plank on top to keep submerged.. Remove when needed, prop up on plank over night to drain and use log.... did I get that right, Madge?? *g* That might work, although I'd suggest a 1:1 ratio of the solution. If the idea of purchasing five hundred gallons of LDD is daunting, you can always do what they did in the saw mills here in WA and just use a mill pond with plain water. Of course, that could ruin your backyard, but then again, you could always use it as a swimming hole for the kids. *G* Madge (Channeled through Leif) =========================== But you know how the kids complain about hitting their heads on the logs! {:-) Ken Moon Webberville, TX. |
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"Ken Moon" wrote in message nk.net... "Leif Thorvaldson" wrote in message ... "mac davis" wrote in message ... On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 04:34:20 GMT, "Ken Moon" wrote: Ken.. fill suitable container (bathtub, spa, pool, etc.) with 1 part LDD and 2 parts water, stir not shake, place logs in container with sacrificial plank on top to keep submerged.. Remove when needed, prop up on plank over night to drain and use log.... did I get that right, Madge?? *g* That might work, although I'd suggest a 1:1 ratio of the solution. If the idea of purchasing five hundred gallons of LDD is daunting, you can always do what they did in the saw mills here in WA and just use a mill pond with plain water. Of course, that could ruin your backyard, but then again, you could always use it as a swimming hole for the kids. *G* Madge (Channeled through Leif) =========================== But you know how the kids complain about hitting their heads on the logs! {:-) Don't know if today's kids would even notice doing so what with the kind of headbanger music they listen to!!*G* Leif |
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On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 10:06:36 -0700, "Leif Thorvaldson" wrote:
"mac davis" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 04:34:20 GMT, "Ken Moon" wrote: Ken.. fill suitable container (bathtub, spa, pool, etc.) with 1 part LDD and 2 parts water, stir not shake, place logs in container with sacrificial plank on top to keep submerged.. Remove when needed, prop up on plank over night to drain and use log.... did I get that right, Madge?? *g* That might work, although I'd suggest a 1:1 ratio of the solution. If the idea of purchasing five hundred gallons of LDD is daunting, you can always do what they did in the saw mills here in WA and just use a mill pond with plain water. Of course, that could ruin your backyard, but then again, you could always use it as a swimming hole for the kids. *G* Madge (Channeled through Leif) I'm actually having the same or better results with the 1:2 ratio.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 22:37:15 GMT, "Ken Moon" wrote:
"Leif Thorvaldson" wrote in message ... "mac davis" wrote in message ... On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 04:34:20 GMT, "Ken Moon" wrote: Ken.. fill suitable container (bathtub, spa, pool, etc.) with 1 part LDD and 2 parts water, stir not shake, place logs in container with sacrificial plank on top to keep submerged.. Remove when needed, prop up on plank over night to drain and use log.... did I get that right, Madge?? *g* That might work, although I'd suggest a 1:1 ratio of the solution. If the idea of purchasing five hundred gallons of LDD is daunting, you can always do what they did in the saw mills here in WA and just use a mill pond with plain water. Of course, that could ruin your backyard, but then again, you could always use it as a swimming hole for the kids. *G* Madge (Channeled through Leif) =========================== But you know how the kids complain about hitting their heads on the logs! {:-) Ken Moon Webberville, TX. well, Ken.. a good turner has priorities, ya know... get them swimming helmets and tell them not to dent the wood.. *g* mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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"mac davis" wrote in message ... On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 10:06:36 -0700, "Leif Thorvaldson" wrote: "mac davis" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 04:34:20 GMT, "Ken Moon" wrote: Ken.. fill suitable container (bathtub, spa, pool, etc.) with 1 part LDD and 2 parts water, stir not shake, place logs in container with sacrificial plank on top to keep submerged.. Remove when needed, prop up on plank over night to drain and use log.... did I get that right, Madge?? *g* That might work, although I'd suggest a 1:1 ratio of the solution. If the idea of purchasing five hundred gallons of LDD is daunting, you can always do what they did in the saw mills here in WA and just use a mill pond with plain water. Of course, that could ruin your backyard, but then again, you could always use it as a swimming hole for the kids. *G* Madge (Channeled through Leif) I'm actually having the same or better results with the 1:2 ratio.. ===== YMMV. I can only guarantee what worked best for me! *G* Leif |
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