Hello.

My grandfather has just had a garage built and has been quoted, from what I
can gather, a very reasonable price for getting electricity to the garage
via armoured cable from his house. The only problem I can see is the guy
doing the electrics, although a competent and ex-qualified electrician, is
no longer qualified (retired I think). I am aware of these new regulations
that have come into force in January this year but I'm wondering, can this
guy do the work and then get a qualified electrician to inspect and provide
a certificate for the work? If so, how much is an inspection?

Thanks
Alan

"Alan" wrote in message
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Hello.

My grandfather has just had a garage built and has been quoted, from what
I
can gather, a very reasonable price for getting electricity to the garage
via armoured cable from his house. The only problem I can see is the guy
doing the electrics, although a competent and ex-qualified electrician, is
no longer qualified (retired I think). I am aware of these new regulations
that have come into force in January this year but I'm wondering, can this
guy do the work and then get a qualified electrician to inspect and
provide
a certificate for the work? If so, how much is an inspection?

Thanks
Alan

The work was completed in December 2004 wasn't it ;-)

Regards Jeff

In article , Jeff
writes

"Alan" wrote in message
.uk...
Hello.

My grandfather has just had a garage built and has been quoted, from what
I
can gather, a very reasonable price for getting electricity to the garage
via armoured cable from his house. The only problem I can see is the guy
doing the electrics, although a competent and ex-qualified electrician, is
no longer qualified (retired I think). I am aware of these new regulations
that have come into force in January this year but I'm wondering, can this
guy do the work and then get a qualified electrician to inspect and
provide
a certificate for the work? If so, how much is an inspection?

Thanks
Alan

The work was completed in December 2004 wasn't it ;-)


Good job they don't date stamp the cables.....

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Tony Sayer

Good job they don't date stamp the cables.....

Dont give the gov any ideas ...

Dave

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For what we are about to balls up may common sense prevent us doing it
again
in the future!!

Thanks, although it might be a bit more complicated than that. He only
recently had planning granted for the garage, after January in fact. Unless
he can get away with saying he pre-empted the garage being there!

So, I guess that getting certification after the event is a no no?

If, for example, my Grandfather were to sell next year and the buyers (or
buyers solicitor) pressed for certification of the electrical work done,
what should he do? I've tried telling him to get an up-to-date qualified
electrician to do the work to avoid future hassle but, it must be a
generation gap thing, he gets angered at having to fork out quite a bit more
money for exactly the same work. I guess he has a point though!

Allan


"tony sayer" wrote in message
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In article , Jeff
writes

"Alan" wrote in message
.uk...
Hello.

My grandfather has just had a garage built and has been quoted, from
what
I
can gather, a very reasonable price for getting electricity to the
garage
via armoured cable from his house. The only problem I can see is the
guy
doing the electrics, although a competent and ex-qualified electrician,
is
no longer qualified (retired I think). I am aware of these new
regulations
that have come into force in January this year but I'm wondering, can
this
guy do the work and then get a qualified electrician to inspect and
provide
a certificate for the work? If so, how much is an inspection?

Thanks
Alan

The work was completed in December 2004 wasn't it ;-)


Good job they don't date stamp the cables.....

--
Tony Sayer

On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 15:51:06 GMT, "Alan" wrote:

Thanks, although it might be a bit more complicated than that. He only
recently had planning granted for the garage, after January in fact. Unless
he can get away with saying he pre-empted the garage being there!

The work 'could have been started' before the garage was built - as long as it's finished by the end
of this month you're ok, so it couldn't be proved.

So, I guess that getting certification after the event is a no no?
No - you can still go the building control route.
Opinion seems to be divided over whether they are allowed to charge any more than the standard
building control fee for inspections etc.

If, for example, my Grandfather were to sell next year and the buyers (or
buyers solicitor) pressed for certification of the electrical work done,
what should he do?

Disconnect the feed at the house CU. Tell buyers it is their responsibility to inspect/certify etc.
if they reconnect.

Mike Harrison wrote:

If, for example, my Grandfather were to sell next year and the buyers (or
buyers solicitor) pressed for certification of the electrical work done,
what should he do?

Disconnect the feed at the house CU. Tell buyers it is their responsibility to inspect/certify etc.
if they reconnect.

I think it's highly unlikely anyone's going to focus on the electrical
aspects of the garage; he can prove he's got building regs approval and
planning permission and that should be the end of it. But of any
particularly anally retentive solicitor does home in on it, he should
just shrug his shoulders and say he hasn't got it; so what? Are the
buyers really going to pull out of the sale because it's missing,
particularly when there's no evidence that the electrical work's not
properly done?

David

tony sayer wrote:


Good job they don't date stamp the cables.....

Now you know the REAL reason why they changed the colours from red and
black. Anyone buying huge stocks of old twin and earth will have a
guaranteed business from DIY'ers for years.


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No Spam wrote:
Now you know the REAL reason why they changed the colours from red and
black. Anyone buying huge stocks of old twin and earth will have a
guaranteed business from DIY'ers for years.

If I need to replace a piece of cable that's been damaged, for instance
between two sockets, do I need to tell anyone about it?

Chris Bacon wrote:
No Spam wrote:
Now you know the REAL reason why they changed the colours from red and
black. Anyone buying huge stocks of old twin and earth will have a
guaranteed business from DIY'ers for years.

If I need to replace a piece of cable that's been damaged, for instance
between two sockets, do I need to tell anyone about it?

Hm? Any ideas?

No Spam wrote:
tony sayer wrote:

Good job they don't date stamp the cables.....

Now you know the REAL reason why they changed the colours from red and
black. Anyone buying huge stocks of old twin and earth will have a
guaranteed business from DIY'ers for years.

I was in B&Q earlier today and noticed that there's not a sign of any of
the harmonised colours. I'd have been none the wiser that there had
been any changes at all.

Wickes, on the other hand, do have the new colours IIRC; and a notice on
the shelf directs you to their "Good Ideas" leaflet on the subject.
However, there are none to be had; apparently they have had a directive
from somewhere that they aren't allowed to give them out!

David

Lobster wrote:


I was in B&Q earlier today and noticed that there's not a sign of any of
the harmonised colours. I'd have been none the wiser that there had
been any changes at all.

Same in my local B&Q, however the local Wilkinsons does now have the new
colours on its T&E cables for sale.

Wickes, on the other hand, do have the new colours IIRC; and a notice on
the shelf directs you to their "Good Ideas" leaflet on the subject.
However, there are none to be had; apparently they have had a directive
from somewhere that they aren't allowed to give them out!

I noticed also that Woolworths only now have scraps of mains sockets and
switches for sale, and all of those were reduced in price, so perhaps
they are phasing out the stock ?

--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

The work was completed in December 2004 wasn't it ;-)
Thought the work only had to be started in Dec, so discussing it I'm sure
can be regarded as starting it.

It was somewhere outside Barstow when "Jeff"
wrote:

The work was completed in December 2004 wasn't it ;-)

Doesn't matter - it's when it began that counts. Now I'm sure that
building a garage must have taken that long, so the rules simply don't
come into effect on it.