Fwom:timycelyn )

[Sigh] The
problem is that there are clowns out there, who ought to have
something
biological done to them with theri screwdrivers. Take the farmer I
bought
off 10 years ago. He had connected up his outbuildings with
under-rated
buried cables, when he needed to join them he brought them above
surface to
a domestic junction box mounted on a dinky little wooden post (it was
weatherproof, it had a slowly perishing Tesco carrier bag taped over
it!!).
The wiring in the house roof space was rubber so perished that the
live
conductor showed through in places, and he had gone mad with
chocolate
blocks as well. I reckon he should have been nominated for some sort
of
prize.

Couldnt have picked a worse brand of carrier bag: tesco are designed
to disintegrate; in under 2 years theyre a pile of pieces.

Part take-the-p does not of course have any effect on clowns like
that.


NT

"N. Thornton" wrote in message
om...
Fwom:timycelyn )

[Sigh] The
problem is that there are clowns out there, who ought to have
something
biological done to them with theri screwdrivers. Take the farmer I
bought
off 10 years ago. He had connected up his outbuildings with
under-rated
buried cables, when he needed to join them he brought them above
surface to
a domestic junction box mounted on a dinky little wooden post (it was
weatherproof, it had a slowly perishing Tesco carrier bag taped over
it!!).
The wiring in the house roof space was rubber so perished that the
live
conductor showed through in places, and he had gone mad with
chocolate
blocks as well. I reckon he should have been nominated for some sort
of
prize.

Couldnt have picked a worse brand of carrier bag: tesco are designed
to disintegrate; in under 2 years theyre a pile of pieces.

Part take-the-p does not of course have any effect on clowns like
that.


NT

Indeed - but then I guess it was never intended to - it's just the closed
shop by another name...

Tim

(still seething)

"N. Thornton" wrote in message
om...
Fwom:timycelyn )

[Sigh] The
problem is that there are clowns out there, who ought to have
something
biological done to them with theri screwdrivers. Take the farmer I
bought
off 10 years ago. He had connected up his outbuildings with
under-rated
buried cables, when he needed to join them he brought them above
surface to
a domestic junction box mounted on a dinky little wooden post (it was
weatherproof, it had a slowly perishing Tesco carrier bag taped over
it!!).

It isn't part of a dwelling then so presumably part P doesn't apply?

"John" wrote in message
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"N. Thornton" wrote in message
om...
Fwom:timycelyn )

[Sigh] The
problem is that there are clowns out there, who ought to have
something
biological done to them with theri screwdrivers. Take the farmer I
bought
off 10 years ago. He had connected up his outbuildings with
under-rated
buried cables, when he needed to join them he brought them above
surface to
a domestic junction box mounted on a dinky little wooden post (it was
weatherproof, it had a slowly perishing Tesco carrier bag taped over
it!!).

It isn't part of a dwelling then so presumably part P doesn't apply?

Really - do tell me some more, as I'm still rewiring some of these
outbuildings and will, no doubt, be doing it for the next few years on and
off...

Cheers

Tim

"timycelyn" wrote in message
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It isn't part of a dwelling then so presumably part P doesn't apply?

Really - do tell me some more, as I'm still rewiring some of these
outbuildings and will, no doubt, be doing it for the next few years on and
off...

Hmm. Building control meets farm wiring. That would be a horror story.

"Now Mr BCO, would you like to test this electrified cow fence ?"

"Mike" wrote in message
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"timycelyn" wrote in message
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It isn't part of a dwelling then so presumably part P doesn't apply?

Really - do tell me some more, as I'm still rewiring some of these
outbuildings and will, no doubt, be doing it for the next few years on
and
off...

Hmm. Building control meets farm wiring. That would be a horror story.

"Now Mr BCO, would you like to test this electrified cow fence ?"



Yes, pretty mind - boggling! I suspect (away from the big concerns with
employees, anyway) that there's a tacit ' Keep you nose fairly clean (well,
clean-ish) and we'll keep away' because they know trying to enforce the
letter of the regulation on most smaller farms would be opening up a very
large can of rattlesnakes. Plus they would find it difficult to get access,
and unlike suburbia most things that go on on a farm are hidden safely from
public view. Of couse, this not only applies to Part P (may it drown
unlamented in the nearest slurry pit) but many other things nominally
controlled by BCOs on farms. The trouble ususally only starts if some farmer
gets it horribly wrong and some fairly public incident results. Long may it
continue - an upside of living in the country, I suppose.

Cheers

Tim

"timycelyn" wrote in message
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SNIP


It isn't part of a dwelling then so presumably part P doesn't apply?

Really - do tell me some more, as I'm still rewiring some of these
outbuildings and will, no doubt, be doing it for the next few years on and
off...

Notice the question mark g?

serious though I was under the distinct impression that part P does not
apply to non-domestic work - others may be able to comment further.
Agriculture is an industry so your buildings are non domestic. However the
requirements of the wiring regs should be stringently applied

"John" wrote in message
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serious though I was under the distinct impression that part P does not
apply to non-domestic work - others may be able to comment further.
Agriculture is an industry so your buildings are non domestic. However the
requirements of the wiring regs should be stringently applied


This is correct. But it doesn't have to be the IEE wiring regs that are
used and on which Part P is based. Any IEC approved standard is acceptable.

"John" wrote
| It isn't part of a dwelling then so presumably part P doesn't apply?
| Really - do tell me some more, as I'm still rewiring some of these
| outbuildings and will, no doubt, be doing it for the next few years on
and
| off...
| Notice the question mark g?
| serious though I was under the distinct impression that part P does not
| apply to non-domestic work - others may be able to comment further.

AIUI Part P does apply to outbuildings if supplied from a dwelling, which
might be the case. Only if the outbuildings are separately metered from a
separate service intake would they be exempt.

| Agriculture is an industry so your buildings are non domestic. However
| the requirements of the wiring regs should be stringently applied

To which point:

1. There are specific IRR regs for agricultural installations
2. The Electricity at Work Regulations may well also apply

Owain