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When is a shed not a shed?
I have 3 sheds, approximate ages 10, 20 and 30 years and in various stages
of bio-degradation. I would like to replace them with one robust over-engineered "mother of all sheds". * Concrete slab on DPC * 3m x 5m area * 19mm Constructional cladding TGV with vapour barrier on 4x2 frame * Apex roof * More than 5m from existing house, in back garden * More than 2m from any boundary * No neighbour objection (in fact positive support) In having a healthy experience-based disrespect for council bureaucrats I do not want to require any kind of building control or planning permission at all. Q. Ideally I would like to build a brick wall (6-8 courses) with the timber section of the shed above that. In doing this (or even thinking this) am I exposing myself to flak from the regs police? Local council web resources are very unhelpful. When is a shed not a shed...but an "outbuilding"? David |
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 08:24:38 -0000, "Vortex"
wrote: I have 3 sheds, approximate ages 10, 20 and 30 years and in various stages of bio-degradation. I would like to replace them with one robust over-engineered "mother of all sheds". * Concrete slab on DPC * 3m x 5m area * 19mm Constructional cladding TGV with vapour barrier on 4x2 frame * Apex roof * More than 5m from existing house, in back garden * More than 2m from any boundary * No neighbour objection (in fact positive support) In having a healthy experience-based disrespect for council bureaucrats I do not want to require any kind of building control or planning permission at all. Q. Ideally I would like to build a brick wall (6-8 courses) with the timber section of the shed above that. In doing this (or even thinking this) am I exposing myself to flak from the regs police? Local council web resources are very unhelpful. When is a shed not a shed...but an "outbuilding"? AFAIK, a shed is essentially a temporary construction, an outbuilding a permanent one. sPoniX |
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Vortex wrote:
I have 3 sheds, approximate ages 10, 20 and 30 years and in various stages of bio-degradation. I would like to replace them with one robust over-engineered "mother of all sheds". * Concrete slab on DPC * 3m x 5m area * 19mm Constructional cladding TGV with vapour barrier on 4x2 frame * Apex roof * More than 5m from existing house, in back garden * More than 2m from any boundary * No neighbour objection (in fact positive support) In having a healthy experience-based disrespect for council bureaucrats I do not want to require any kind of building control or planning permission at all. Q. Ideally I would like to build a brick wall (6-8 courses) with the timber section of the shed above that. In doing this (or even thinking this) am I exposing myself to flak from the regs police? Local council web resources are very unhelpful. When is a shed not a shed...but an "outbuilding"? Take a look here... http://www.we3kings.dsl.pipex.com/jpegs/perm1a.jpg http://www.we3kings.dsl.pipex.com/jpegs/perm1b.jpg http://www.we3kings.dsl.pipex.com/jpegs/perm2a.jpg http://www.we3kings.dsl.pipex.com/jpegs/perm2b.jpg http://www.we3kings.dsl.pipex.com/jpegs/perm3a.jpg http://www.we3kings.dsl.pipex.com/jpegs/perm3b.jpg These regs apply (applied) to Coventry... YMMV -- Reply address is spamtrapped. Remove theobvious for valid e-mail address |
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 08:24:38 -0000, "Vortex"
wrote: I have 3 sheds, approximate ages 10, 20 and 30 years and in various stages of bio-degradation. I would like to replace them with one robust over-engineered "mother of all sheds". * Concrete slab on DPC * 3m x 5m area * 19mm Constructional cladding TGV with vapour barrier on 4x2 frame * Apex roof * More than 5m from existing house, in back garden * More than 2m from any boundary * No neighbour objection (in fact positive support) In having a healthy experience-based disrespect for council bureaucrats I do not want to require any kind of building control or planning permission at all. Q. Ideally I would like to build a brick wall (6-8 courses) with the timber section of the shed above that. In doing this (or even thinking this) am I exposing myself to flak from the regs police? Local council web resources are very unhelpful. When is a shed not a shed...but an "outbuilding"? David Take a look at some other local authority web sites. There are several with useful information that you can find easily with a google search. I'm not sure about the brick wall aspect. Certainly check that - it rings slight warning bells. I believe that the floor area is OK. Some other things to watch a - Does it result in coverage of more than a certain proportion of the overall plot? I guess not from the numbers you have given. - Make the roof apex peak less than 4m. This can be done by reducing the pitch if need be to maintain the area you want. I did mine at approx 20 degrees for example. - Check to see that there are no covenenants or LA removal of permitted development rights for the area or property. -- ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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In message , Vortex
writes I have 3 sheds, approximate ages 10, 20 and 30 years and in various stages of bio-degradation. I would like to replace them with one robust over-engineered "mother of all sheds". [...] Local council web resources are very unhelpful. When is a shed not a shed...but an "outbuilding"? Http://www.odpm.gov.uk/stellent/grou...nts/pdf/odpm_p lan_pdf_606151.pdf Doesn't matter if it is a shed or an outbuilding. As long as it is within permitted development limits, it will be exempted. |
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"snipped Q. Ideally I would like to build a brick wall (6-8 courses) with the timber section of the shed above that. In doing this (or even thinking this) am I exposing myself to flak from the regs police? snipped I'm not sure about the brick wall aspect. Certainly check that - it rings slight warning bells. snipped ================== This 'dwarf wall' base construction used to be the common construction of greenhouses so it's probably O.K. , but still worth checking. Cic. |
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Ok,
First step, check your council website for the regulations, THEN and i would do this, to prevent any aggrevation afterwoods, as the shed you will be building is looking to become expensive Put in a householders enquiry form. Once you have this back (not longer then 2 weeks) you are all cleared and can start building, and yes even 6 courses of bricks My shed/cabin is about 4 by 6 mtrs but the most important part is the appex, this should not exceed the 4 mtrs Well i would say success |
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