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When is a shed not a shed?

I have 3 sheds, approximate ages 10, 20 and 30 years and in various stages
of bio-degradation.

I would like to replace them with one robust over-engineered "mother of all
sheds".

* Concrete slab on DPC
* 3m x 5m area
* 19mm Constructional cladding TGV with vapour barrier on 4x2 frame
* Apex roof
* More than 5m from existing house, in back garden
* More than 2m from any boundary
* No neighbour objection (in fact positive support)

In having a healthy experience-based disrespect for council bureaucrats I do
not want to require any kind of building control or planning permission at
all.

Q. Ideally I would like to build a brick wall (6-8 courses) with the
timber section of the shed above that. In doing this (or even thinking
this) am I exposing myself to flak from the regs police?

Local council web resources are very unhelpful. When is a shed not a
shed...but an "outbuilding"?

David

Vortex wrote:
I have 3 sheds, approximate ages 10, 20 and 30 years and in various
stages of bio-degradation.

I would like to replace them with one robust over-engineered "mother
of all sheds".

* Concrete slab on DPC
* 3m x 5m area
* 19mm Constructional cladding TGV with vapour barrier on 4x2 frame
* Apex roof
* More than 5m from existing house, in back garden
* More than 2m from any boundary
* No neighbour objection (in fact positive support)

In having a healthy experience-based disrespect for council
bureaucrats I do not want to require any kind of building control or
planning permission at all.

Q. Ideally I would like to build a brick wall (6-8 courses) with
the timber section of the shed above that. In doing this (or even
thinking this) am I exposing myself to flak from the regs police?

Local council web resources are very unhelpful. When is a shed not a
shed...but an "outbuilding"?

Take a look here... http://www.we3kings.dsl.pipex.com/jpegs/perm1a.jpg
http://www.we3kings.dsl.pipex.com/jpegs/perm1b.jpg
http://www.we3kings.dsl.pipex.com/jpegs/perm2a.jpg
http://www.we3kings.dsl.pipex.com/jpegs/perm2b.jpg
http://www.we3kings.dsl.pipex.com/jpegs/perm3a.jpg
http://www.we3kings.dsl.pipex.com/jpegs/perm3b.jpg

These regs apply (applied) to Coventry... YMMV
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 08:24:38 -0000, "Vortex"
wrote:

I have 3 sheds, approximate ages 10, 20 and 30 years and in various stages
of bio-degradation.

I would like to replace them with one robust over-engineered "mother of all
sheds".

* Concrete slab on DPC
* 3m x 5m area
* 19mm Constructional cladding TGV with vapour barrier on 4x2 frame
* Apex roof
* More than 5m from existing house, in back garden
* More than 2m from any boundary
* No neighbour objection (in fact positive support)

In having a healthy experience-based disrespect for council bureaucrats I do
not want to require any kind of building control or planning permission at
all.

Q. Ideally I would like to build a brick wall (6-8 courses) with the
timber section of the shed above that. In doing this (or even thinking
this) am I exposing myself to flak from the regs police?

Local council web resources are very unhelpful. When is a shed not a
shed...but an "outbuilding"?

David

Take a look at some other local authority web sites. There are
several with useful information that you can find easily with a google
search.

I'm not sure about the brick wall aspect. Certainly check that - it
rings slight warning bells.

I believe that the floor area is OK.

Some other things to watch a

- Does it result in coverage of more than a certain proportion of the
overall plot? I guess not from the numbers you have given.

- Make the roof apex peak less than 4m. This can be done by
reducing the pitch if need be to maintain the area you want. I did
mine at approx 20 degrees for example.

- Check to see that there are no covenenants or LA removal of
permitted development rights for the area or property.

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In message , Vortex
writes
I have 3 sheds, approximate ages 10, 20 and 30 years and in various stages
of bio-degradation.

I would like to replace them with one robust over-engineered "mother of all
sheds".

[...]

Local council web resources are very unhelpful. When is a shed not a
shed...but an "outbuilding"?

Http://www.odpm.gov.uk/stellent/grou...nts/pdf/odpm_p
lan_pdf_606151.pdf

Doesn't matter if it is a shed or an outbuilding. As long as it is
within permitted development limits, it will be exempted.

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Q. Ideally I would like to build a brick wall (6-8 courses) with the
timber section of the shed above that. In doing this (or even thinking
this) am I exposing myself to flak from the regs police?

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I'm not sure about the brick wall aspect. Certainly check that - it
rings slight warning bells.

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This 'dwarf wall' base construction used to be the common construction of
greenhouses so it's probably O.K. , but still worth checking.

Cic.

Ok,

First step, check your council website for the regulations,

THEN and i would do this, to prevent any aggrevation afterwoods, as the shed you will be building is looking to become expensive

Put in a householders enquiry form.

Once you have this back (not longer then 2 weeks) you are all cleared and can start building, and yes even 6 courses of bricks

My shed/cabin is about 4 by 6 mtrs but the most important part is the appex, this should not exceed the 4 mtrs

Well i would say success