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Air conditioning in April - good grief
Looks like the weather is heating up even earlier this year. First time I
can remember having to turn the aircon on in April. Time was it used to snow around once or twice in late April. But now it's just about time for the annual uk.d-i-y aircon thread. Wonder what B&Q is selling in the way of portables this year and when they will sell out? Is it time to buy shares in installed aircon? |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
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Air conditioning in April - good grief
"Simon Gardner" [dot]co[dot]uk wrote in message ... Looks like the weather is heating up even earlier this year. First time I can remember having to turn the aircon on in April. Time was it used to snow around once or twice in late April. But now it's just about time for the annual uk.d-i-y aircon thread. No it isn't. You should see a doctor: a) about your obesity problem b) body temperature clock problem. Get it sorted. |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
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Air conditioning in April - good grief
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Air conditioning in April - good grief
On 23 Apr 2004 17:24:31 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote:
Wonder what B&Q is selling in the way of portables this year and when they will sell out? Funny you should say that. I was in B&Q, for first time in weeks, at lunchtime. I saw stacks of fans, and evaporative air coolers... I bought a desk-mounted 6in fan in Homebase on impulse 2 days ago. In last summers heat wave we were a fan short and mad passionate love wouldn't have made one available, never mind the money! PoP --- http://www.ukdiy.org.uk |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
"mike ring" wrote in message 52.50... rnet[dot]co[dot]uk (Simon Gardner) wrote in : Looks like the weather is heating up even earlier this year. First time I can remember having to turn the aircon on in April. Time was it used to snow around once or twice in late April. But now it's just about time for the annual uk.d-i-y aircon thread. Speak for yourself, Sunshine, my heating is still required and the lynge fire goes on in the evenings. (it gets the moggie off me sofa) I known what you mean Mike |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
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"Bob Eager" wrote: Funny you should say that. I was in B&Q, for first time in weeks, at lunchtime. I saw stacks of fans, and evaporative air coolers... Oh I definitely wouldn't recommend evaporative air coolers. The UK gets both too hot and too humid. What do you think? |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
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PoP wrote: I bought a desk-mounted 6in fan in Homebase on impulse 2 days ago. In last summers heat wave we were a fan short and mad passionate love wouldn't have made one available, never mind the money! If you really want lots of mad passionate love at temperatures of 33 and above, I strongly recommend air con. It does wonders for the sexual stamina. |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
Simon Gardner wrote:
Looks like the weather is heating up even earlier this year. First time I can remember having to turn the aircon on in April. Time was it used to snow around once or twice in late April. We've used ours a few times in the past 2 weeks. South facing room, so sunshine == hot room. -- Grunff |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
"Simon Gardner" [dot]co[dot]uk wrote in message ... In article , "Bob Eager" wrote: Funny you should say that. I was in B&Q, for first time in weeks, at lunchtime. I saw stacks of fans, and evaporative air coolers... Oh I definitely wouldn't recommend evaporative air coolers. The UK gets both too hot and too humid. What do you think? I think that you should lose ten tons of weight. |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
"Grunff" wrote in message ... Simon Gardner wrote: Looks like the weather is heating up even earlier this year. First time I can remember having to turn the aircon on in April. Time was it used to snow around once or twice in late April. We've used ours a few times in the past 2 weeks. South facing room, so sunshine == hot room. Venetian blinds cost nothing to run. |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:56:04 +0100, "IMM" wrote:
can remember having to turn the aircon on in April. Time was it used to snow around once or twice in late April. We've used ours a few times in the past 2 weeks. South facing room, so sunshine == hot room. Venetian blinds cost nothing to run. Roller blinds and opening the windows do it for me. After work routine in the summer used to be to get home, open all doors and windows, and sit in the garden for a while with an ice cold beer. :) cheers, Pete. |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
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Air conditioning in April - good grief
IMM wrote:
Venetian blinds cost nothing to run. We have some very nice highly reflective silver blinds. Before I switched on the aircon, the room had reached 27C today. -- Grunff |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
"Grunff" wrote in message ... IMM wrote: Venetian blinds cost nothing to run. We have some very nice highly reflective silver blinds. Before I switched on the aircon, the room had reached 27C today. You have them the wrong way around |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
IMM wrote:
We have some very nice highly reflective silver blinds. Before I switched on the aircon, the room had reached 27C today. You have them the wrong way around Do go on... -- Grunff |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 23:38:34 +0100, Grunff wrote:
IMM wrote: We have some very nice highly reflective silver blinds. Before I switched on the aircon, the room had reached 27C today. You have them the wrong way around Do go on... He does....... ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
Andy Hall wrote:
He does....... Indeed. I hope he does this time - I'm just *dying* to know how I have my blinds the wrong way round. I'm expecting him to suggest I brick up the window next. That's certainly help a lot. -- Grunff |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
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"Bob Eager" wrote: On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 20:18:39 UTC, rnet[dot]co[dot]uk (Simon Gardner) wrote: In article , "Bob Eager" wrote: Funny you should say that. I was in B&Q, for first time in weeks, at lunchtime. I saw stacks of fans, and evaporative air coolers... Oh I definitely wouldn't recommend evaporative air coolers. The UK gets both too hot and too humid. What do you think? I wouldn't either. But I guess they sell well...I was just reporting what I saw. I rather thought they'd stopped selling those. Must have a butchers at the weekend. |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
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Grunff wrote: I'm expecting him to suggest I brick up the window next. That's certainly help a lot. The problem thse days is that even with the CH off, some of us have a great deal of heat-generating electronics - much more than we used to have. The other problem is that it's just getting hotter for longer [in the year] anyway. There used to be a nutter here who reckoned you could cool a house from 35 to 21 and drop humidity from 80%RH to 45%RH by planting some geraniums outside. Presumably he's been carted off to the [superheated] funny farm by now? I ask you. Fancy being dim enough to think that if you open the windows on an outside temperature of 35 you can defy all known laws of physics and the temperature indoors will somehow drop to 21. Not to speak of all that unpleasant insecticide you'd have to expend. |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
IMM wrote:
Venetian blinds cost nothing to run. And reduce the RH by how much exactly? -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
"Simon Gardner" [dot]co[dot]uk wrote in message ... In article , Grunff wrote: I'm expecting him to suggest I brick up the window next. That's certainly help a lot. The problem thse days is that even with the CH off, some of us have a great deal of heat-generating electronics - much more than we used to have. The other problem is that it's just getting hotter for longer [in the year] anyway. There used to be a nutter here who reckoned you could cool a house from 35 to 21 and drop humidity from 80%RH to 45%RH by planting some geraniums outside. A cool pond. Very natiural and effective. I ask you. Fancy being dim enough to think that if you open the windows on an outside temperature of 35 you can defy all known laws of physics and the temperature indoors will somehow drop to 21. During last August house temp were an average of 25C inside. NO NEED for a/c in the UK. If you design the house properly, or take appropriate measures of insulation, blinds, natural vegetation, etc, this 25C will be even less. Obese people should confront their real problem at the root, obesity, and not use am add on. A/c in a normal UK house, is treating the symptom not the cause. |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
"John Rumm" wrote in message ... IMM wrote: Venetian blinds cost nothing to run. And reduce the RH by how much exactly? Rh is rarely a problem in the UK |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:19:33 +0100, "IMM" wrote:
Obese people should confront their real problem at the root, obesity, and not use am add on. A/c in a normal UK house, is treating the symptom not the cause. While I don't disagree that obesity is an issue that individuals may find it beneficial to address; assuming that that is the reason why Simon likes to have air conditioning in his house may not be correct at all. There are a number of reasons why people can be sensitive to heat including balance of salts and a poor ability to sweat which are completely unrelated to body mass index. Heat exhaustion is a very serious thing, and it isn't appropriate to imply that it is something that the affected person can deal with easily. Besides which, it's up to him, isn't it? ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
In article , IMM
writes "Simon Gardner" [dot]co[dot]uk wrote in message ... In article , Grunff wrote: I'm expecting him to suggest I brick up the window next. That's certainly help a lot. The problem thse days is that even with the CH off, some of us have a great deal of heat-generating electronics - much more than we used to have. The other problem is that it's just getting hotter for longer [in the year] anyway. There used to be a nutter here who reckoned you could cool a house from 35 to 21 and drop humidity from 80%RH to 45%RH by planting some geraniums outside. A cool pond. Very natiural and effective. I ask you. Fancy being dim enough to think that if you open the windows on an outside temperature of 35 you can defy all known laws of physics and the temperature indoors will somehow drop to 21. During last August house temp were an average of 25C inside. NO NEED for a/c in the UK. If you design the house properly, or take appropriate measures of insulation, blinds, natural vegetation, etc, this 25C will be even less. Obese people should confront their real problem at the root, obesity, and not use am add on. A/c in a normal UK house, is treating the symptom not the cause. What about the humidity?... -- Tony Sayer |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 23:26:06 +0100, Grunff wrote:
IMM wrote: Venetian blinds cost nothing to run. We have some very nice highly reflective silver blinds. Before I switched on the aircon, the room had reached 27C today. Hi, Is this a conservatory, and can your windows be opened? I find with windows closed most of the heat trapped behind the blinds eventually finds it's way into the room, but if the heat can escape outdoors through a window they do a good job. This works quite well if the window has a top opener, if there is a gap below the bottom of the blind the rising warm air helps draw air in through an open door. Another factor is that the body feels radiant heat as well as conducted heat, so if the walls of the room are a dark colour they will make the room feel warmer even after the air temperature has been lowered. cheers, Pete. |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:09:32 +0100, tony sayer
wrote: In article , IMM writes During last August house temp were an average of 25C inside. NO NEED for a/c in the UK. If you design the house properly, or take appropriate measures of insulation, blinds, natural vegetation, etc, this 25C will be even less. Obese people should confront their real problem at the root, obesity, and not use am add on. A/c in a normal UK house, is treating the symptom not the cause. What about the humidity?... Now you're just getting into the details, Tony. It's important to see the big picture :-) ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
IMM wrote:
And reduce the RH by how much exactly? Rh is rarely a problem in the UK I would agree - it is usually only about 4 months in the year that it is a problem - so I suppose that is "rarely"... -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
Pete C wrote:
We have some very nice highly reflective silver blinds. Before I switched on the aircon, the room had reached 27C today. Is this a conservatory, and can your windows be opened? I find with windows closed most of the heat trapped behind the blinds eventually finds it's way into the room, but if the heat can escape outdoors through a window they do a good job. No, this is our home office. The reasoning behind the silver blind is to reflect as much of the incoming radiation as possible without absorbing it. Another factor is that the body feels radiant heat as well as conducted heat, so if the walls of the room are a dark colour they will make the room feel warmer even after the air temperature has been lowered. The walls are white. It's purely because it's a south facing window with no obstructions outside. Gets very hot. -- Grunff |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:29:03 +0100, Grunff wrote:
Is this a conservatory, and can your windows be opened? I find with windows closed most of the heat trapped behind the blinds eventually finds it's way into the room, but if the heat can escape outdoors through a window they do a good job. No, this is our home office. The reasoning behind the silver blind is to reflect as much of the incoming radiation as possible without absorbing it. I see. The trouble with blinds is when the sun hits them, much of the high wavelength IR is reradiated as low wavelength IR which cannot pass back through the window. The only way they help is trap the heat on the outside of the blind but if the window is shut some will conduct and radiate through into the room. If your window cannot be opened it might be fairly cheap to get it replaced with one that does, especially if it's a sealed DG unit. Or it's possible to get window tint film that reflects a high proportion of the heat. It's purely because it's a south facing window with no obstructions outside. Gets very hot. I know what you mean, I've got 3 south facing windows. Maybe a big floor fan placed somewhere cool with some poly tube as a duct would help. I usually get some breeze but might start looking for an 18" or 24" floor fan for still days. Might get heat pump AC eventually to use for heating as well as cooling on extra hot days though. cheers, Pete. |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
Pete C wrote:
If your window cannot be opened it might be fairly cheap to get it replaced with one that does, especially if it's a sealed DG unit. Or it's possible to get window tint film that reflects a high proportion of the heat. It can be opened, but opening it on a hot day doesn't help much :-( Might get heat pump AC eventually to use for heating as well as cooling on extra hot days though. That's what I have in this room. I installed in in November, and it's proving to be very useful. -- Grunff |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
Huge wrote in message ... "IMM" writes: "Simon Gardner" [dot]co[dot]uk wrote in message ... In article , Grunff wrote: [25 lines snipped] Obese people should confront their real problem at the root, obesity, and not use am add on. A/c in a normal UK house, is treating the symptom not the cause. Would you like to give serious consideration to ****ing off and dying? Or at least minding your own damn business? I always admire a warm considerate reply! LOL Capitol |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
As a small window mounted A/C unit is about $100 in the US ( Walmart) when are we going to see these here? Regards Capitol |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:37:51 +0100, "Capitol"
wrote: As a small window mounted A/C unit is about $100 in the US ( Walmart) when are we going to see these here? Regards Capitol Never, hopefully. They are as ugly as sin. On both sides of the window... ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:32:43 +0100, in uk.d-i-y "Capitol"
strung together this: I always admire a warm considerate reply! Justified in this case, so acceptable posting etiquette! -- SJW A.C.S. Ltd. |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:12:24 +0100, Grunff wrote:
Pete C wrote: If your window cannot be opened it might be fairly cheap to get it replaced with one that does, especially if it's a sealed DG unit. Or it's possible to get window tint film that reflects a high proportion of the heat. It can be opened, but opening it on a hot day doesn't help much :-( Hi, It's a shame that AC is needed when the cooler air from outside is available. I reckon that cooler air is worth 1.3kW/°C/m^3/s or 4300BTU/°C/m^3/s, it's just a matter of getting it to the right place. cheers, Pete. |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
"Capitol" wrote in message ... As a small window mounted A/C unit is about $100 in the US ( Walmart) when are we going to see these here? Hopefully, never. |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
"Capitol" wrote in message ... Huge wrote in message ... "IMM" writes: "Simon Gardner" [dot]co[dot]uk wrote in message ... In article , Grunff wrote: [25 lines snipped] Obese people should confront their real problem at the root, obesity, and not use am add on. A/c in a normal UK house, is treating the symptom not the cause. Would you like to give serious consideration to ****ing off and dying? Or at least minding your own damn business? I always admire a warm considerate reply! LOL Capitol I think it clear he has an obesity problem he is not addressing. Very sad. |
Air conditioning in April - good grief
"Lurch" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:32:43 +0100, in uk.d-i-y "Capitol" strung together this: I always admire a warm considerate reply! Justified in this case, so acceptable posting etiquette! -- SJW A.C.S. Ltd. Another fatty? |
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