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Mike Tomlinson ) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying : No, but I know who you are. You're the trolling ****wit who posts as "IMM" in uk.d-i-y. Apart from having an identical posting style, displaying a complete lack of clue, showing a breathtaking level of arrogance, etc., you're both posting from the same computer: "News" posting in uk.r.c.m: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.134.67.161 NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Mar 2004 11:00:26 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 "IMM" posting in uk.d-i-y: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.134.67.161 NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Mar 2004 11:05:19 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Aha.... |
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In message , Pete Smith
writes In article , says... In article , News writes Do you know my neighbour? No, but I know who you are. You're the trolling ****wit who posts as "IMM" in uk.d-i-y. Apart from having an identical posting style, displaying a complete lack of clue, showing a breathtaking level of arrogance, etc., you're both posting from the same computer: How did you manage to track this down? I didn't think google was too hot on searching headers of news postings. Mike is using the Very Excellent (TM) Turnpike news-reader (though inexplicably an old version) -- dave @ stejonda |
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In article , dave @ stejonda
writes Mike is using the Very Excellent (TM) Turnpike news-reader (though inexplicably an old version) I hated v6 on sight, I'm afraid, so stuck with v5.01. -- A. Top posters. Q. What's the most annoying thing on Usenet? |
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I didn't think google was too hot on searching headers of news postings.
It is just oddly named. When viewing a single message, there is an option "Original Format" which basically means "Show Headers". I don't know if you can search on their contents, but it is easy enough to follow up a hunch. Christian. |
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In article , cmcardle75
@nospam.yahooxxxx.co.uk says... I didn't think google was too hot on searching headers of news postings. It is just oddly named. When viewing a single message, there is an option "Original Format" which basically means "Show Headers". I don't know if you can search on their contents, but it is easy enough to follow up a hunch. Ah, so this was a hunch based one. I know you can view the headers, but it would be nice to be able to search for something like an NNTP posting IP address. It looks like (in retrospect) that the similarities in posting style were actually recognised by a human rather than a machine. Pete. -- NOTE! Email address is spamtrapped. Any email will be bounced to you Remove the news and underscore from my address to reply by mail |
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 13:58:02 -0000, Pete Smith
wrote: In article , cmcardle75 says... I didn't think google was too hot on searching headers of news postings. It is just oddly named. When viewing a single message, there is an option "Original Format" which basically means "Show Headers". I don't know if you can search on their contents, but it is easy enough to follow up a hunch. Ah, so this was a hunch based one. I know you can view the headers, but it would be nice to be able to search for something like an NNTP posting IP address. It looks like (in retrospect) that the similarities in posting style were actually recognised by a human rather than a machine. I expect so - Mike has appeared in all these groups. Google header searches are limited to certain fields - author, subject, message-id. -- Tomorrow has been cancelled until further notice. Mail john rather than nospam... |
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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message ... In article , News writes Do you know my neighbour? No, but I know who you are. You're the trolling ****wit who posts as "IMM" in uk.d-i-y. you're both posting from the same computer: Your ignorance of computing abounds. IP address are dynamic and that of the local ISP, not individual machines. So many people could have the same IP address at many times. Duh! Now there's a nice boy, now f**k off back to the car and Yorkshire news groups, and stop bothering us. |
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 14:53:00 UTC, "IMM" wrote:
Your ignorance of computing abounds. IP address are dynamic Yours may be. Not all IP addresses are dynamic, and to imply that it is so shows your ignorance. local ISP, not individual machines. Every individual machine in this house has its own static IP address. -- Bob Eager begin by not using Outlook Express... |
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"Bob Eager" wrote in message
... On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 14:53:00 UTC, "IMM" wrote: Your ignorance of computing abounds. IP address are dynamic Yours may be. Not all IP addresses are dynamic, and to imply that it is so shows your ignorance. In the vast majority of the Internet, dynamic IPs are used, as there is simply not enough IP adresses to around. Nothing like a smart arse is thee. local ISP, not individual machines. Every individual machine in this house has its own static IP address. You won't find that via Goggle if you go via an ISP. You are Probably using a router for all your machines. One side of the router the internet doesn't want to know. Go to the 3-Com web site. They have tutorials on IP addresses. |
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"IMM" wrote in message ... "Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 14:53:00 UTC, "IMM" wrote: Nothing like a smart arse is thee. No, and you appear to be a first class one Mouse |
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"mouse" mouse @nospam .net wrote in message ... Nothing like a smart arse is thee. No, and you appear to be a first class one Smart, yes. Arse, no. What mouse hole have you crawled out of? |
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It looks like (in retrospect) that the similarities in posting style were
actually recognised by a human rather than a machine. Reading the thread, the posting styles are, indeed, exceptionally similar. The belief in some sort of magic fuel additive is so similar to the belief in the fairy powered electronic water conditioners that it is quite striking. Christian. |
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"Christian McArdle" wrote in message et... It looks like (in retrospect) that the similarities in posting style were actually recognised by a human rather than a machine. Reading the thread, the posting styles are, indeed, exceptionally similar. The belief in some sort of magic fuel additive is so similar to the belief in the fairy powered electronic water conditioners that it is quite striking. Is this a magnet fuel thing? |
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"Christian McArdle" wrote in message et... Your ignorance of computing abounds. IP address are dynamic Yours may be. Not all IP addresses are dynamic, and to imply that it is so shows your ignorance. Looking at his postings, he has a dynamic address (supplied by a Energis/PlanetOnline pop) that changes frequently. However, postings at similar times have identical IP addresses caused by the fact that the modem doesn't change IP address when still connected. You are nuts. |
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Your ignorance of computing abounds. IP address are dynamic
Yours may be. Not all IP addresses are dynamic, and to imply that it is so shows your ignorance. Looking at his postings, he has a dynamic address (supplied by a Energis/PlanetOnline pop) that changes frequently. However, postings at similar times have identical IP addresses caused by the fact that the modem doesn't change IP address when still connected. Christian. |
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"IMM" wrote in message ... "mouse" mouse @nospam .net wrote in message ... Nothing like a smart arse is thee. No, and you appear to be a first class one Smart, yes. Arse, no. What mouse hole have you crawled out of? Been done to death before by ex trolls, try and come up with something original!!! Mouse |
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"Christian McArdle" wrote in message et... Your ignorance of computing abounds. IP address are dynamic Yours may be. Not all IP addresses are dynamic, and to imply that it is so shows your ignorance. Looking at his postings, he has a dynamic address (supplied by a Energis/PlanetOnline pop) that changes frequently. However, postings at similar times have identical IP addresses caused by the fact that the modem doesn't change IP address when still connected. Christian. Not to mention identical time offset between the poster's PC and the ISP's server (1 min 38 sec) |
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IMM wrote:
"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message ... In article , News writes Do you know my neighbour? No, but I know who you are. You're the trolling ****wit who posts as "IMM" in uk.d-i-y. you're both posting from the same computer: Your ignorance of computing abounds. IP address are dynamic and that of the local ISP, not individual machines. So many people could have the same IP address at many times. Duh! Whilst that may be true I believe that for any one dial-up session, you are assigned a single IP address for the duration of that session. If one is bored enough, one can find a large number of occasions where "News" and "IMM" have posted within minutes of each other. Surprise surprise, on those occasions their IP addresses are the same. Tim -- Remove the obvious to reply by email. Please support rheumatoid arthritis research! Visit http://www.justgiving.com/pfp/speyside or http://www.justgiving.com/speyside if you're a UK tax payer. |
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"mouse" mouse @nospam .net wrote in message ... "IMM" wrote in message ... "mouse" mouse @nospam .net wrote in message ... Nothing like a smart arse is thee. No, and you appear to be a first class one Smart, yes. Arse, no. What mouse hole have you crawled out of? Been done to death before by ex trolls, try and come up with something original!!! You are a troll that is clear, so **** off back to the Yorkshire group. |
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"Neil Jones" wrote in message ... "Christian McArdle" wrote in message et... Your ignorance of computing abounds. IP address are dynamic Yours may be. Not all IP addresses are dynamic, and to imply that it is so shows your ignorance. Looking at his postings, he has a dynamic address (supplied by a Energis/PlanetOnline pop) that changes frequently. However, postings at similar times have identical IP addresses caused by the fact that the modem doesn't change IP address when still connected. Christian. Not to mention identical time offset between the poster's PC and the ISP's server (1 min 38 sec) Another one who knows little of computers. |
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"IMM" wrote in message ... Another one who knows little of computers. Well, if you say so, it must be true. |
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 14:53:00 -0000, "IMM" wrote:
"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message ... In article , News writes Do you know my neighbour? No, but I know who you are. You're the trolling ****wit who posts as "IMM" in uk.d-i-y. you're both posting from the same computer: Your ignorance of computing abounds. IP address are dynamic and that of the local ISP, not individual machines. So many people could have the same IP address at many times. Duh! Not actually true. ISPs with dial up users will typically, but not necessarily have a dynamic address pool for those users. They may also assign dynamic addresses for the cheaper DSL packages. I can appreciate that that is possibly what you have. The more expensive "broadband" packages allocate the customer one static IP address and may on request provide a larger block if needed. ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"Neil Jones" wrote in message ... "IMM" wrote in message ... Another one who knows little of computers. Well, if you say so, it must be true. Good. You are learning. |
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Yours may be. Not all IP addresses are dynamic, and to imply that it is
so shows your ignorance. That's pretty rare in a domestic setting, though. I used to have one via Demon, but I wouldn't want one now as it is too dangerous; IP masquerading gives useful extra security for free. Couple it with a solid state router with all incoming TCP connections dropped silently and you're relatively safe from cold calling attacks. I wouldn't want my actual computers (as opposed to the router) to have a genuine IP address at all, dynamic or static. Much happier that they are known as 192.168.0.x, as no router on the net is going to find them. Christian. |
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"IMM" wrote in message ... "mouse" mouse @nospam .net wrote in message ... "IMM" wrote in message ... "mouse" mouse @nospam .net wrote in message ... Nothing like a smart arse is thee. No, and you appear to be a first class one Smart, yes. Arse, no. What mouse hole have you crawled out of? Been done to death before by ex trolls, try and come up with something original!!! You are a troll that is clear, so **** off back to the Yorkshire group. You really are a sad little troll. I'm not from Yorkshire, (so you can use the ripe data base,well done.) where I come from we eat trolls for breakfast, you wont be the first or the last troll I have had kicked off his ISP. This mouse bites so beware. Mouse |
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Is this a magnet fuel thing?
You really make me laugh, sometimes! You're are surely not denying that you are the same person? The evidence is overwhelming and the two identities have similar attitudes and beliefs, so there is no shame in admitting it. In any case, it isn't a magnet fuel thing. What is your opinion on a fuel additive that can be used to help clean and regenerate a catalytic converter on a car? Would you like to denounce the idea? Christian. |
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Looking at his postings, he has a dynamic address (supplied by a
Energis/PlanetOnline pop) that changes frequently. However, postings at similar times have identical IP addresses caused by the fact that the modem doesn't change IP address when still connected. You are nuts. I've got it! You've got a twin brother/sister who shares your computer? Christian. |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... Your ignorance of computing abounds. IP address are dynamic and that of the local ISP, not individual machines. So many people could have the same IP address at many times. Duh! Not actually true. ISPs with dial up users will typically, but not necessarily have a dynamic address pool for those users. They may also assign dynamic addresses for the cheaper DSL packages. I can appreciate that that is possibly what you have. The more expensive "broadband" packages allocate the customer one static IP address and may on request provide a larger block if needed. No ISP allocates one IP address to one individual user, unless it is a large user. IP addresses are scarce, very scare. One of the big problems of TC/IP is that the addressing stinks, although this is being worked on. |
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 15:19:38 -0000, "IMM" wrote:
"Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 14:53:00 UTC, "IMM" wrote: Your ignorance of computing abounds. IP address are dynamic Yours may be. Not all IP addresses are dynamic, and to imply that it is so shows your ignorance. In the vast majority of the Internet, dynamic IPs are used, as there is simply not enough IP adresses to around. Nothing like a smart arse is thee. That is not really true. As a result of Classless Inter Domain Routing (CIDR), the crunch that was coming as a result of the old Class A,B,C arrangement has become a non-issue for the foreseeable future, because large amounts of address space have been reclaimed and structured prefixes used. local ISP, not individual machines. Every individual machine in this house has its own static IP address. You won't find that via Goggle if you go via an ISP. You are Probably using a router for all your machines. One side of the router the internet doesn't want to know. What on earth are you talking about? It is possible to have static addresses in an organisation either using private address space and Network Address Translation (NAT) or by having been allocated a block of public address space. In the latter case, it is entirely possible that machines inside an organisation can be seen from the public internet unless they are specifically firewalled off. If access is via NAT, then the machines inside may be invisible to the outside world or there may be specific address/port patches. Go to the 3-Com web site. They have tutorials on IP addresses. Most being way out of date, IIRC. Cisco's site is rather better..... ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"Christian McArdle" wrote in message et... Is this a magnet fuel thing? You really make me laugh, sometimes! You are nuts! Is there a full moon about? |
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"mouse" mouse @nospam .net wrote in message ... "IMM" wrote in message ... "mouse" mouse @nospam .net wrote in message ... "IMM" wrote in message ... "mouse" mouse @nospam .net wrote in message ... Nothing like a smart arse is thee. No, and you appear to be a first class one Smart, yes. Arse, no. What mouse hole have you crawled out of? Been done to death before by ex trolls, try and come up with something original!!! You are a troll that is clear, so **** off back to the Yorkshire group. You really are a sad little troll. I'm not from Yorkshire, (so you can use the ripe data base,well done.) where I come from we eat trolls for breakfast, you wont be the first or the last troll I have had kicked off his ISP. This mouse bites so beware. Mouse You are a troll. That is clear. This ng has been inundated with them. You are all a total pest. |
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IMM wrote:
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... Your ignorance of computing abounds. IP address are dynamic and that of the local ISP, not individual machines. So many people could have the same IP address at many times. Duh! Not actually true. ISPs with dial up users will typically, but not necessarily have a dynamic address pool for those users. They may also assign dynamic addresses for the cheaper DSL packages. I can appreciate that that is possibly what you have. The more expensive "broadband" packages allocate the customer one static IP address and may on request provide a larger block if needed. No ISP allocates one IP address to one individual user, unless it is a large user. Well, I've got one. I'm 6'3" and 17.5 stone - does that mean I got it 'coz I'm a large user? :-) IP addresses are scarce, very scare. One of the big problems of TC/IP is that the addressing stinks, although this is being worked on. IPv6 is the name you are looking for. |
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In article , IMM
writes Your ignorance of computing abounds. IP address are dynamic and that of the local ISP, not individual machines. So many people could have the same IP address at many times. Duh! You've only shown your own ignorance. Both postings I quoted (which you conveniently snipped) are within a 5 minute window. That, the similar posting style, and the same news client used means that there is a very high level of probability, bordering on certainty, that you and "Newss" are one and the same person. Face it, you've been found out. Now there's a nice boy, now f**k off ooooh! back to the car and Yorkshire news groups, I don't take any Yorkshire groups. and stop bothering us. Is that the royal "we"? -- A. Top posters. Q. What's the most annoying thing on Usenet? |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message
... In the vast majority of the Internet, dynamic IPs are used, as there is simply not enough IP adresses to go around. Nothing like a smart arse is there. That is not really true. It is. local ISP, not individual machines. Every individual machine in this house has its own static IP address. You won't find that via Goggle if you go via an ISP. You are Probably using a router for all your machines. One side of the router the internet doesn't want to know. What on earth are you talking about? It is possible to have static addresses in an organisation either using private address space and Network Address Translation (NAT) or by having been allocated a block of public address space. In the latter case, it is entirely possible The key word is "possible", but it very rarely happens. Go to the 3-Com web site. They have tutorials on IP addresses. Most being way out of date, IIRC. Cisco's site is rather better..... On that we do agree. |
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"Christian McArdle" wrote in message et... I've got it! You've got a twin brother/sister who shares your computer? How do you know? |
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In article , IMM
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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message ... In article , IMM writes No ISP allocates one IP address to one individual user, unless it is a large user. Wrong. Look at Demon user IP allocations. If you know how to, that is. Wrong. |
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IMM wrote:
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... Your ignorance of computing abounds. IP address are dynamic and that of the local ISP, not individual machines. So many people could have the same IP address at many times. Duh! Not actually true. ISPs with dial up users will typically, but not necessarily have a dynamic address pool for those users. They may also assign dynamic addresses for the cheaper DSL packages. I can appreciate that that is possibly what you have. The more expensive "broadband" packages allocate the customer one static IP address and may on request provide a larger block if needed. No ISP allocates one IP address to one individual user, unless it is a large user. IP addresses are scarce, very scare. One of the big problems of TC/IP is that the addressing stinks, although this is being worked on. Wrong again Demon do I have one at home I just can't see the point of posting without checking your facts first or am I missing something Nick |
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