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A month or so ago I posted a question about a tube that I had seen at the
bottom of telegraph posts. I realied they were on new posts. I found out today that the tube is to allow BT to put a probe down to ensure that the contractors had made the hole to the correct depth and hadn't trimmed a bit off the bottom of the post if boring the hole was difficult. |
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On 12/05/2021 17:31, JohnP wrote:
A month or so ago I posted a question about a tube that I had seen at the bottom of telegraph posts. I realied they were on new posts. I found out today that the tube is to allow BT to put a probe down to ensure that the contractors had made the hole to the correct depth and hadn't trimmed a bit off the bottom of the post if boring the hole was difficult. Well of all the things! Bill |
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JohnP wrote: A month or so ago I posted a question about a tube that I had seen at the bottom of telegraph posts. I realied they were on new posts. I found out today that the tube is to allow BT to put a probe down to ensure that the contractors had made the hole to the correct depth and hadn't trimmed a bit off the bottom of the post if boring the hole was difficult. some of the smaller BBC tv relay station use "stout wooden poles" rather than the better known lattice masts. One of these in the west of Scotland blew over the the first winter gales because the contractor had met hard rock after about a foot down and chopped off the bottom 4ft so it was only held in place by the peat. (Fiunary. if anybody cares) -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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charles wrote in
: In article , JohnP wrote: A month or so ago I posted a question about a tube that I had seen at the bottom of telegraph posts. I realied they were on new posts. I found out today that the tube is to allow BT to put a probe down to ensure that the contractors had made the hole to the correct depth and hadn't trimmed a bit off the bottom of the post if boring the hole was difficult. some of the smaller BBC tv relay station use "stout wooden poles" rather than the better known lattice masts. One of these in the west of Scotland blew over the the first winter gales because the contractor had met hard rock after about a foot down and chopped off the bottom 4ft so it was only held in place by the peat. (Fiunary. if anybody cares) The guys I spoke to cited a similar instance - with the risk being the man up a ladder working on the wires or equipment. Keep you eyes peeled - plastic tube with cap stapled to the post. I guess it is a one off audit after instalation. I have seen a lot of activity with men with clipboards and camera phones around poles that have been equiped with fibre. |
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![]() "JohnP" wrote in message . .. A month or so ago I posted a question about a tube that I had seen at the bottom of telegraph posts. I realied they were on new posts. I found out today that the tube is to allow BT to put a probe down to ensure that the contractors had made the hole to the correct depth and hadn't trimmed a bit off the bottom of the post if boring the hole was difficult. Fark, that’s bizarre and nutty because with a difficult one they can just drive the tube down further than the hole was for the pole. And didn’t you say that the tube is added later ? Bet someone is pulling your leg. |
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JohnP wrote:
Keep you eyes peeled - plastic tube with cap stapled to the post. I guess it is a one off audit after instalation. I have seen a lot of activity with men with clipboards and camera phones around poles that have been equiped with fibre. When contractors were working locally replacing old gas pipes, before they backfilled each trench, they dropped in a calibrated depth board and took a photo. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK @ChrisJDixon1 Plant amazing Acers. |
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"Rod Speed" wrote in
: "JohnP" wrote in message . .. A month or so ago I posted a question about a tube that I had seen at the bottom of telegraph posts. I realied they were on new posts. I found out today that the tube is to allow BT to put a probe down to ensure that the contractors had made the hole to the correct depth and hadn't trimmed a bit off the bottom of the post if boring the hole was difficult. Fark, that’s bizarre and nutty because with a difficult one they can just drive the tube down further than the hole was for the pole. And didn’t you say that the tube is added later ? Bet someone is pulling your leg. I don't know what is put down the tube - It could be a borescope! I am sure they will have some way of checking it relative to a reference mark on the post. I thought it may have been added later when I first saw it but have since realised it is only on new posts. |
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On Thu, 13 May 2021 10:44:48 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Fark, that˘s bizarre and nutty But that's what YOU truly are, senile cretin! Can't you sociopaths ever but PROJECT whenever you rant about other people and even things? -- Bill Wright to Rodent Speed: "That confirms my opinion that you are a despicable little ****." MID: |
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On Thu, 13 May 2021 07:58:09 +0100, Chris J Dixon
wrote: JohnP wrote: Keep you eyes peeled - plastic tube with cap stapled to the post. I guess it is a one off audit after instalation. I have seen a lot of activity with men with clipboards and camera phones around poles that have been equiped with fibre. When contractors were working locally replacing old gas pipes, before they backfilled each trench, they dropped in a calibrated depth board and took a photo. Chris Same here when they were replacing some mains water pipes in the road outside my house, about a year ago. Lots of photos taken at various stages. |
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On 12 May 2021 at 17:31:29 BST, "JohnP" wrote:
A month or so ago I posted a question about a tube that I had seen at the bottom of telegraph posts. I realied they were on new posts. I found out today that the tube is to allow BT to put a probe down to ensure that the contractors had made the hole to the correct depth and hadn't trimmed a bit off the bottom of the post if boring the hole was difficult. What is to stop them drilling a 20mm hole to put the pipe down a couple of feet below the bottom of the pole? -- Roger Hayter |
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Roger Hayter wrote in
: On 12 May 2021 at 17:31:29 BST, "JohnP" wrote: A month or so ago I posted a question about a tube that I had seen at the bottom of telegraph posts. I realied they were on new posts. I found out today that the tube is to allow BT to put a probe down to ensure that the contractors had made the hole to the correct depth and hadn't trimmed a bit off the bottom of the post if boring the hole was difficult. What is to stop them drilling a 20mm hole to put the pipe down a couple of feet below the bottom of the pole? I don't know what they put down the tube to check - it could be a borescope that can see the wooden post. |
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Yes they need that for accurate mapping for future diggers upperers. so to
speak. Incidentally, do they now make telegraph poles of anything other than wood? Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Chris J Dixon" wrote in message ... JohnP wrote: Keep you eyes peeled - plastic tube with cap stapled to the post. I guess it is a one off audit after instalation. I have seen a lot of activity with men with clipboards and camera phones around poles that have been equiped with fibre. When contractors were working locally replacing old gas pipes, before they backfilled each trench, they dropped in a calibrated depth board and took a photo. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK @ChrisJDixon1 Plant amazing Acers. |
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On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 9:29:29 AM UTC+1, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
Yes they need that for accurate mapping for future diggers upperers. so to speak. Incidentally, do they now make telegraph poles of anything other than wood? Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Chris J Dixon" wrote in message ... JohnP wrote: Keep you eyes peeled - plastic tube with cap stapled to the post. I guess it is a one off audit after instalation. I have seen a lot of activity with men with clipboards and camera phones around poles that have been equiped with fibre. When contractors were working locally replacing old gas pipes, before they backfilled each trench, they dropped in a calibrated depth board and took a photo. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK @ChrisJDixon1 Plant amazing Acers. and why are they still called Telegraph poles ? |
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On 14/05/2021 10:29, fred wrote:
On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 9:29:29 AM UTC+1, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote: Yes they need that for accurate mapping for future diggers upperers. so to speak. Incidentally, do they now make telegraph poles of anything other than wood? Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Chris J Dixon" wrote in message ... JohnP wrote: Keep you eyes peeled - plastic tube with cap stapled to the post. I guess it is a one off audit after instalation. I have seen a lot of activity with men with clipboards and camera phones around poles that have been equiped with fibre. When contractors were working locally replacing old gas pipes, before they backfilled each trench, they dropped in a calibrated depth board and took a photo. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK @ChrisJDixon1 Plant amazing Acers. and why are they still called Telegraph poles ? For the same reason Radios are called wireless. -- Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early twenty-first centurys developed world went into hysterical panic over a globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and, on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to contemplate a rollback of the industrial age. Richard Lindzen |
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A pole should be “planted” approx 6ft (1.8m) into the ground. The doby mark is a notch 3 metres from the bottom of the pole. A pole then correctly planted would show the 3 metre mark at a height of 1.2 metres above ground level. Often “Depthing Tubes” are fitted which allow inspectors to check that those rascal erection contractors have buried them deep enough. |
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On 14/05/2021 10:29, fred wrote:
On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 9:29:29 AM UTC+1, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote: Yes they need that for accurate mapping for future diggers upperers. so to speak. Incidentally, do they now make telegraph poles of anything other than wood? Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Chris J Dixon" wrote in message ... JohnP wrote: Keep you eyes peeled - plastic tube with cap stapled to the post. I guess it is a one off audit after instalation. I have seen a lot of activity with men with clipboards and camera phones around poles that have been equiped with fibre. When contractors were working locally replacing old gas pipes, before they backfilled each trench, they dropped in a calibrated depth board and took a photo. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK @ChrisJDixon1 Plant amazing Acers. and why are they still called Telegraph poles ? because most normal people know what that means (much as they know what is meant by "filmed on a mobile phone"). But there's nothing to stop you using "a tall (often wooden) pole used to carry utility cables" -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On 14/05/2021 10:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 14/05/2021 10:29, fred wrote: and why are they still called Telegraph poles ? For the same reason Radios are called wireless. Well they are wireless (the portable ones at least). Do people still refer to "steam rollers"? -- Max Demian |
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Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote
Yes they need that for accurate mapping for future diggers upperers. so to speak. Incidentally, do they now make telegraph poles of anything other than wood? Plenty of our replacement power poles are concrete now. All the new estates have underground everything. We have never had separate poles for the phone lines. "Chris J Dixon" wrote in message ... JohnP wrote: Keep you eyes peeled - plastic tube with cap stapled to the post. I guess it is a one off audit after instalation. I have seen a lot of activity with men with clipboards and camera phones around poles that have been equiped with fibre. When contractors were working locally replacing old gas pipes, before they backfilled each trench, they dropped in a calibrated depth board and took a photo. |
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![]() "fred" wrote in message ... On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 9:29:29 AM UTC+1, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote: Yes they need that for accurate mapping for future diggers upperers. so to speak. Incidentally, do they now make telegraph poles of anything other than wood? Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Chris J Dixon" wrote in message ... JohnP wrote: Keep you eyes peeled - plastic tube with cap stapled to the post. I guess it is a one off audit after instalation. I have seen a lot of activity with men with clipboards and camera phones around poles that have been equiped with fibre. When contractors were working locally replacing old gas pipes, before they backfilled each trench, they dropped in a calibrated depth board and took a photo. and why are they still called Telegraph poles ? Because they were originally used for telegraph lines before power poles were invented. |
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![]() "Robin" wrote in message ... On 14/05/2021 10:29, fred wrote: On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 9:29:29 AM UTC+1, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote: Yes they need that for accurate mapping for future diggers upperers. so to speak. Incidentally, do they now make telegraph poles of anything other than wood? Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Chris J Dixon" wrote in message ... JohnP wrote: Keep you eyes peeled - plastic tube with cap stapled to the post. I guess it is a one off audit after instalation. I have seen a lot of activity with men with clipboards and camera phones around poles that have been equiped with fibre. When contractors were working locally replacing old gas pipes, before they backfilled each trench, they dropped in a calibrated depth board and took a photo. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK @ChrisJDixon1 Plant amazing Acers. and why are they still called Telegraph poles ? because most normal people know what that means (much as they know what is meant by "filmed on a mobile phone"). But there's nothing to stop you using "a tall (often wooden) pole used to carry utility cables" Easier to call it a power pole or utility pole if you are that anal. |
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![]() "Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 14/05/2021 10:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 14/05/2021 10:29, fred wrote: and why are they still called Telegraph poles ? For the same reason Radios are called wireless. Well they are wireless (the portable ones at least). Do people still refer to "steam rollers"? Yep, plenty do and filming stuff with a digital camera. |
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On 14/05/2021 13:12, Max Demian wrote:
On 14/05/2021 10:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 14/05/2021 10:29, fred wrote: and why are they still called Telegraph poles ? For the same reason Radios are called wireless. Well they are wireless (the portable ones at least). Do people still refer to "steam rollers"? Yes, but it's a ******* trying to roll steam. Bill |
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On Sat, 15 May 2021 05:03:11 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Plenty of our replacement power poles are concrete now. All the new estates have underground everything. We have never had separate poles for the phone lines. Who's that "our", "us" and "we" you are constantly hallucinating about, you sociopathic senile troll? There is NO "we" for you! NOBODY, but NOBODY, identifies with a sick senile swine like you. Ask your Australian neighbours! They will confirm it. -- Norman Wells addressing trolling senile Rodent: "Ah, the voice of scum speaks." MID: |
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On Sat, 15 May 2021 05:39:08 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile pest's latest troll**** unread |
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On Sat, 15 May 2021 05:36:31 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- Marland answering senile Rodent's statement, "I don't leak": "That˘s because so much **** and ****e emanates from your gob that there is nothing left to exit normally, your arsehole has clammed shut through disuse and the end of prick is only clear because you are such a ******." Message-ID: |
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On Sat, 15 May 2021 05:24:16 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread |
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