I passed it a few months ago and I had no idea what what happening - I
saw the scaffolding and just assumed it was a bit of maintenance.

I passed it again this week and saw the new glass so did some research.

A couple of photos from tonight.

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower1.jpg

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower2.jpg

You can view the planning permission here


https://www.wakefield.gov.uk/plannin...cations-online

or somewhere on there

and search for

16/01858/FUL

And it looks from the photos that they have cladded the concrete instead
of cleaning it. A pity really as it distracts from the main original
design feature of the building - brutalism concrete.


It also looks like level 1 has an outside door.



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On 05/05/2021 21:52, ARW wrote:
I passed it a few months ago and I had no idea what what happening - I
saw the scaffolding and just assumed it was a bit of maintenance.

I passed it again this week and saw the new glass so did some research.

A couple of photos from tonight.

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower1.jpg

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower2.jpg

You can view the planning permission here


https://www.wakefield.gov.uk/plannin...cations-online


or somewhere on there

and search for

16/01858/FUL

And it looks from the photos that they have cladded the concrete instead
of cleaning it. A pity really as it distracts from the main original
design feature of the building - brutalism concrete.


It also looks like level 1 has an outside door.



One for 'Grand Designs'. Very brave I'd call it.

Bill

On 06/05/2021 03:11, williamwright wrote:
On 05/05/2021 21:52, ARW wrote:
I passed it a few months ago and I had no idea what what happening - I
saw the scaffolding and just assumed it was a bit of maintenance.

I passed it again this week and saw the new glass so did some research.

A couple of photos from tonight.

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower1.jpg

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower2.jpg

You can view the planning permission here


https://www.wakefield.gov.uk/plannin...cations-online


or somewhere on there

and search for

16/01858/FUL

And it looks from the photos that they have cladded the concrete
instead of cleaning it. A pity really as it distracts from the main
original design feature of the building - brutalism concrete.


It also looks like level 1 has an outside door.



One for 'Grand Designs'. Very brave I'd call it.

Bill


well with a tower of that height, like that, you're virtually gauranteed
a half decent DAB/FM/Freeview line of sight to various transmitters I
should think! ;-)

williamwright laid this down on his screen :
One for 'Grand Designs'. Very brave I'd call it.

Bill

I have seen at least one other on there, seems an awful lot of steps.

On 05/05/2021 21:52, ARW wrote:
I passed it a few months ago and I had no idea what what happening - I
saw the scaffolding and just assumed it was a bit of maintenance.

I passed it again this week and saw the new glass so did some research.

A couple of photos from tonight.

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower1.jpg

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower2.jpg

You can view the planning permission here


https://www.wakefield.gov.uk/plannin...cations-online


or somewhere on there

and search for

16/01858/FUL

And it looks from the photos that they have cladded the concrete instead
of cleaning it. A pity really as it distracts from the main original
design feature of the building - brutalism concrete.


It also looks like level 1 has an outside door.


https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/...ecome-13444560

Bill

On 6 May 2021 at 03:14:37 BST, "williamwright"
wrote:

On 05/05/2021 21:52, ARW wrote:
I passed it a few months ago and I had no idea what what happening - I
saw the scaffolding and just assumed it was a bit of maintenance.

I passed it again this week and saw the new glass so did some research.

A couple of photos from tonight.

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower1.jpg

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower2.jpg

You can view the planning permission here



https://www.wakefield.gov.uk/plannin...cations-online



or somewhere on there

and search for

16/01858/FUL

And it looks from the photos that they have cladded the concrete instead
of cleaning it. A pity really as it distracts from the main original
design feature of the building - brutalism concrete.


It also looks like level 1 has an outside door.

It does - no door shown on the plans. Maybe it a full height window.


https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/...ecome-13444560

Bill

Good on them - went for £110,000 (from a guide price of £4k).

Should think that scaffolding cost a few quid - 100k to adapt? Foundations
should be quite sturdy :-)

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On 6 May 2021 at 03:14:37 BST, "williamwright"
wrote:

On 05/05/2021 21:52, ARW wrote:
I passed it a few months ago and I had no idea what what happening - I
saw the scaffolding and just assumed it was a bit of maintenance.
I passed it again this week and saw the new glass so did some research.
A couple of photos from tonight.
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower1.jpg
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower2.jpg
You can view the planning permission here

https://www.wakefield.gov.uk/plannin...cations-online

or somewhere on there
and search for
16/01858/FUL
And it looks from the photos that they have cladded the concrete
instead of cleaning it. A pity really as it distracts from the main
original design feature of the building - brutalism concrete.
It also looks like level 1 has an outside door.

It does - no door shown on the plans. Maybe it a full height window.


https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/...ecome-13444560

Bill

Good on them - went for £110,000 (from a guide price of £4k).
Should think that scaffolding cost a few quid - 100k to adapt? Foundations
should be quite sturdy :-)

Damned nuisance to hike those stairs when you are ancient tho.

On Thu, 6 May 2021 15:24:08 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Good on them - went for £110,000 (from a guide price of £4k).
Should think that scaffolding cost a few quid - 100k to adapt? Foundations
should be quite sturdy :-)

Damned nuisance to hike those stairs when you are ancient tho.

YOU are a damned nuisance, whether with or without stairs, senile sociopath!

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On 06/05/2021 06:24, Rod Speed wrote:


"RJH" wrote in message
...
On 6 May 2021 at 03:14:37 BST, "williamwright"
wrote:

On 05/05/2021 21:52, ARW wrote:
Â*I passed it a few months ago and I had no idea what what happening
- I saw the scaffolding and just assumed it was a bit of maintenance.
Â*I passed it again this week and saw the new glass so did some
research.
Â*A couple of photos from tonight.
Â*http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower1.jpg
Â*http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower2.jpg
Â*You can view the planning permission here

https://www.wakefield.gov.uk/plannin...cations-online


Â*or somewhere on there
Â*and search for
Â*16/01858/FUL
Â*And it looks from the photos that they have cladded the concrete
instead of cleaning it. A pity really as it distracts from the main
original design feature of the building - brutalism concrete.
Â*It also looks like level 1 has an outside door.

It does - no door shown on the plans. Maybe it a full height window.


https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/...ecome-13444560


Bill

Good on them - went for £110,000 (from a guide price of £4k).
Should think that scaffolding cost a few quid - 100k to adapt?
Foundations
should be quite sturdy :-)

Damned nuisance to hike those stairs when you are ancient tho.

funnily enough, some TV transmitters do have a lift within. ISTR that
Emley Moor has a lift within its concrete shaft and its one of the
tallest transmitters in the UK.

Should think its do-able to put a lift in the water tower.....

"SH" wrote in message
...
On 06/05/2021 06:24, Rod Speed wrote:


"RJH" wrote in message
...
On 6 May 2021 at 03:14:37 BST, "williamwright"
wrote:

On 05/05/2021 21:52, ARW wrote:
I passed it a few months ago and I had no idea what what happening -
I saw the scaffolding and just assumed it was a bit of maintenance.
I passed it again this week and saw the new glass so did some
research.
A couple of photos from tonight.
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower1.jpg
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower2.jpg
You can view the planning permission here

https://www.wakefield.gov.uk/plannin...cations-online

or somewhere on there
and search for
16/01858/FUL
And it looks from the photos that they have cladded the concrete
instead of cleaning it. A pity really as it distracts from the main
original design feature of the building - brutalism concrete.
It also looks like level 1 has an outside door.

It does - no door shown on the plans. Maybe it a full height window.


https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/...ecome-13444560

Bill

Good on them - went for £110,000 (from a guide price of £4k).
Should think that scaffolding cost a few quid - 100k to adapt?
Foundations
should be quite sturdy :-)

Damned nuisance to hike those stairs when you are ancient tho.

funnily enough, some TV transmitters do have a lift within. ISTR that
Emley Moor has a lift within its concrete shaft and its one of the tallest
transmitters in the UK.

Should think its do-able to put a lift in the water tower.....

Sure but even that isnt as convenient as with a single level with the top
two floors.

On 06/05/2021 08:39, SH wrote:
On 06/05/2021 06:24, Rod Speed wrote:


"RJH" wrote in message
...
On 6 May 2021 at 03:14:37 BST, "williamwright"
wrote:

On 05/05/2021 21:52, ARW wrote:
Â*I passed it a few months ago and I had no idea what what happening
- I saw the scaffolding and just assumed it was a bit of maintenance.
Â*I passed it again this week and saw the new glass so did some
research.
Â*A couple of photos from tonight.
Â*http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower1.jpg
Â*http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower2.jpg
Â*You can view the planning permission here

https://www.wakefield.gov.uk/plannin...cations-online


Â*or somewhere on there
Â*and search for
Â*16/01858/FUL
Â*And it looks from the photos that they have cladded the concrete
instead of cleaning it. A pity really as it distracts from the main
original design feature of the building - brutalism concrete.
Â*It also looks like level 1 has an outside door.

It does - no door shown on the plans. Maybe it a full height window.


https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/...ecome-13444560


Bill

Good on them - went for £110,000 (from a guide price of £4k).
Should think that scaffolding cost a few quid - 100k to adapt?
Foundations
should be quite sturdy :-)

Damned nuisance to hike those stairs when you are ancient tho.

funnily enough, some TV transmitters do have a lift within. ISTR that
Emley Moor has a lift within its concrete shaft and its one of the
tallest transmitters in the UK.

Should think its do-able to put a lift in the water tower.....

Dick and Angela put a ?vacuum operated one in one of the corner towers
at their French Chateaux.

RJH wrote:

ARW wrote:

It also looks like level 1 has an outside door.

It does - no door shown on the plans. Maybe it a full height window.

Seems to have a letter-flap at the bottom ...

On 06/05/2021 10:23, Andy Burns wrote:
RJH wrote:

ARW wrote:

It also looks like level 1 has an outside door.

It does - no door shown on the plans. Maybe it a full height window.

Seems to have a letter-flap at the bottom ...



Pretty sure that is just protection tape.

But there seems to be no opening windows.


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On 06/05/2021 17:38, ARW wrote:
On 06/05/2021 10:23, Andy Burns wrote:
RJH wrote:

ARW wrote:

It also looks like level 1 has an outside door.

It does - no door shown on the plans. Maybe it a full height window.

Seems to have a letter-flap at the bottom ...



Pretty sure that is just protection tape.

But there seems to be no opening windows.



I'd have thought the architects might have included at least one set of
wide doors to winch up furnishings, white goods and replacement fixtures
rather than rely on the spiral staircase.

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On 05/05/2021 21:52, ARW wrote:
I passed it a few months ago and I had no idea what what happening - I
saw the scaffolding and just assumed it was a bit of maintenance.

I passed it again this week and saw the new glass so did some research.

A couple of photos from tonight.

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower1.jpg

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower2.jpg

You can view the planning permission here


https://www.wakefield.gov.uk/plannin...cations-online


or somewhere on there

and search for

16/01858/FUL

And it looks from the photos that they have cladded the concrete instead
of cleaning it. A pity really as it distracts from the main original
design feature of the building - brutalism concrete.


It also looks like level 1 has an outside door.



And they could gone the whole hog like that Grand Design in south London
a few yeara ago which was built as crescent-shaped structure and the
owners decided to have curved double-glazed glass patio doors and
windows to match the curve of the building.

The company that made them did actually manage to get the glass
panels to curve correctly, even though they weren't sure if they could.

On 06/05/2021 13:33, Andrew wrote:

And they could gone the whole hog like that Grand Design in south London
a few yeara ago which was built asÂ* crescent-shaped structure and the
owners decided to have curved double-glazed glass patio doors and
windows to match the curve of the building.

It's not South London:-)

House prices are different in Yorkshire.

BTW if you buy this property one of your closest neighbours is a Mrs
Rosemary West.






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On 06/05/2021 18:38, ARW wrote:
BTW if you buy this property one of your closest neighbours is a Mrs
Rosemary West.

And another is Mrs Emley Moore.

Bill

On 06/05/2021 19:41, williamwright wrote:
On 06/05/2021 18:38, ARW wrote:
BTW if you buy this property one of your closest neighbours is a Mrs
Rosemary West.

And another is Mrs Emley Moore.

And her thinner sister.




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In article ,
ARW wrote:
On 06/05/2021 19:41, williamwright wrote:
On 06/05/2021 18:38, ARW wrote:
BTW if you buy this property one of your closest neighbours is a Mrs
Rosemary West.

And another is Mrs Emley Moore.

And her thinner sister.

and of course; Mr (Henry) Woodhouse

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"williamwright" wrote in message
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On 06/05/2021 18:38, ARW wrote:
BTW if you buy this property one of your closest neighbours is a Mrs
Rosemary West.

And another is Mrs Emley Moore.

I would imagine that at that distance (about 3 miles, by my estimation) the
difficulty would be trying to avoid Mrs Emley Moor deafening you. I bet you
could pick up the broadcasts with nothing plugged in the aerial socket ;-)
We used to live in Wakefield and I remember we had a set of about 10
attenuators daisy-chained together between the aerial lead from the wall
socket and the one to the TV.


I'd forgotten about Bretton Hall, which is near there. That's where I first
learned about computer programming: my mum arranged for me to use the
computer at the teacher-training college there on Wednesday afternoons when
other people played rugby.

On Thu, 06 May 2021 21:10:57 +0100, NY wrote:

I would imagine that at that distance (about 3 miles, by my estimation)
the difficulty would be trying to avoid Mrs Emley Moor deafening you. I
bet you could pick up the broadcasts with nothing plugged in the aerial
socket ;-) We used to live in Wakefield and I remember we had a set of
about 10 attenuators daisy-chained together between the aerial lead from
the wall socket and the one to the TV.

I remember ITV setting up a transmitter about a mile away [1] in direct
line of sight, in the 1960s. I'd have been about 14. It swamped
everything. I made and tuned my own attenuator.

[1] South ewnd of Brighton racecourse.

https://goo.gl/maps/XjjBr8Yn6Rmc2J9CA


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On 06/05/2021 21:10, NY wrote:
"williamwright" wrote in message
...
On 06/05/2021 18:38, ARW wrote:
BTW if you buy this property one of your closest neighbours is a Mrs
Rosemary West.

And another is Mrs Emley Moore.

I would imagine that at that distance (about 3 miles, by my estimation)
the difficulty would be trying to avoid Mrs Emley Moor deafening you. I
bet you could pick up the broadcasts with nothing plugged in the aerial
socket ;-) We used to live in Wakefield and I remember we had a set of
about 10 attenuators daisy-chained together between the aerial lead from
the wall socket and the one to the TV.


I'd forgotten about Bretton Hall, which is near there. That's where I
first learned about computer programming: my mum arranged for me to use
the computer at the teacher-training college there on Wednesday
afternoons when other people played rugby.


Now how will the tv faceplate (or a socket) fit on an exterior wall in
the bedrooms?

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On 06/05/2021 21:10, NY wrote:
I remember we had a set of about 10 attenuators daisy-chained together
between the aerial lead from the wall socket and the one to the TV.

Because there's always some signal pick-up at the TV set itself, strong
attenuation could result in pre- or post-echo in the analogue days. If
the aerial was local to the TV set the result would be signal
cancellation in an unpredictable manner, and that is what happens with
DTT. If the aerial is remote, such as with a distribution system, you'd
see 'ghosts'. However, massive signal levels should appear at outlets on
a system. That's unless the tenant has climbed into the loft and
bypassed a high value tap-off unit!

Incidentally a lot of aerial installers short out braid to inner with
one or two strands rather than use an attenuator. Why? Because they're
stupid.

Bill

On Thu, 06 May 2021 18:38:46 +0100, ARW wrote:

On 06/05/2021 13:33, Andrew wrote:

And they could gone the whole hog like that Grand Design in south
London a few yeara ago which was built asÂ* crescent-shaped structure
and the owners decided to have curved double-glazed glass patio doors
and windows to match the curve of the building.

It's not South London:-)

House prices are different in Yorkshire.

BTW if you buy this property one of your closest neighbours is a Mrs
Rosemary West.

Well, if you need a local concrete expert...

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On 06/05/2021 21:19, Bob Eager wrote:
On Thu, 06 May 2021 18:38:46 +0100, ARW wrote:

On 06/05/2021 13:33, Andrew wrote:

And they could gone the whole hog like that Grand Design in south
London a few yeara ago which was built asÂ* crescent-shaped structure
and the owners decided to have curved double-glazed glass patio doors
and windows to match the curve of the building.

It's not South London:-)

House prices are different in Yorkshire.

BTW if you buy this property one of your closest neighbours is a Mrs
Rosemary West.

Well, if you need a local concrete expert...



:-))


If I was renovating it I would make sure you could get full clearance
around it with a cherry picker.



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Round here the only interesting ones I've found seem to be public toilets
converted into.Art gallery, Bungalow and restaurant, not the same one
though!

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On 06/05/2021 21:19, Bob Eager wrote:
On Thu, 06 May 2021 18:38:46 +0100, ARW wrote:

On 06/05/2021 13:33, Andrew wrote:

And they could gone the whole hog like that Grand Design in south
London a few yeara ago which was built as crescent-shaped structure
and the owners decided to have curved double-glazed glass patio doors
and windows to match the curve of the building.

It's not South London:-)

House prices are different in Yorkshire.

BTW if you buy this property one of your closest neighbours is a Mrs
Rosemary West.

Well, if you need a local concrete expert...



:-))


If I was renovating it I would make sure you could get full clearance
around it with a cherry picker.



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I wonder why they did that, if its not listed, they could surely have blown
it up or bulldozed it and built a more up to date building?
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"ARW" wrote in message
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I passed it a few months ago and I had no idea what what happening - I saw
the scaffolding and just assumed it was a bit of maintenance.

I passed it again this week and saw the new glass so did some research.

A couple of photos from tonight.

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower1.jpg

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower2.jpg

You can view the planning permission here


https://www.wakefield.gov.uk/plannin...cations-online

or somewhere on there

and search for

16/01858/FUL

And it looks from the photos that they have cladded the concrete instead
of cleaning it. A pity really as it distracts from the main original
design feature of the building - brutalism concrete.


It also looks like level 1 has an outside door.



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Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote

I wonder why they did that, if its not listed, they could surely have
blown it up or bulldozed it and built a more up to date building?

The worst of those loons spend far more reusing something like that.

"ARW" wrote in message
...
I passed it a few months ago and I had no idea what what happening - I saw
the scaffolding and just assumed it was a bit of maintenance.

I passed it again this week and saw the new glass so did some research.

A couple of photos from tonight.

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower1.jpg

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...atertower2.jpg

You can view the planning permission here


https://www.wakefield.gov.uk/plannin...cations-online

or somewhere on there

and search for

16/01858/FUL

And it looks from the photos that they have cladded the concrete instead
of cleaning it. A pity really as it distracts from the main original
design feature of the building - brutalism concrete.


It also looks like level 1 has an outside door.



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On Mon, 10 May 2021 06:12:36 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

Get the **** out of humans-only ngs, you perverted trolling senile cretin!

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