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![]() Through the post today I received a request to fill out the census form with the threat if I didn't I would get a fine of up to £1,000 It looks as if Professor Sir Ian Diamond thinks everyone has internet access, Go to www.census.gov.uk and select "start census" If you want a paper form go to the same URL! -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 06/03/2021 13:37, alan_m wrote:
Through the post today I received a request to fill out the census form with the threat if I didn't I would get a fine of up to £1,000 It looks as if Professor Sir Ian Diamond thinks everyone has internet access, Go to www.census.gov.uk and select "start census" If you want a paper form go to the same URL! You omitted "or call 0800....". How many do you know with no internet *and* no phone? It is true there are some people with access to neither the internet nor a telephone. If they had the letter and do nothing they can expect a knock on their door (or tent flap or whatever). The question of a fine only arises if people still don't fill it in. -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 13:37:37 +0000
alan_m wrote: Through the post today I received a request to fill out the census form with the threat if I didn't I would get a fine of up to £1,000 It looks as if Professor Sir Ian Diamond thinks everyone has internet access, Go to www.census.gov.uk and select "start census" If you want a paper form go to the same URL! ....or call 0800 141 2021 It's on the page twice. -- Davey. |
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On Sat, 06 Mar 2021 13:37:37 +0000, alan_m wrote:
If you want a paper form go to the same URL! or call the number that is given on the letter and also on the leaflet. |
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On 06/03/2021 13:54, Robin wrote:
On 06/03/2021 13:37, alan_m wrote: Through the post today I received a request to fill out the census form with the threat if I didn't I would get a fine of up to £1,000 It looks as if Professor Sir Ian Diamond thinks everyone has internet access, Go to www.census.gov.uk and select "start census" If you want a paper form go to the same URL! You omitted "or call 0800....". How many do you know with no internet *and* no phone? I would guess that 99.999% of internet connections are made through a phone line, whether POTS, fibre, or mobile. So it is likely that someone with no phone connection will have no internet connection. There might be one or two who use a satellite link, but I doubt there will be a significant number. In other circumstances, I suppose a person without internet connection might have been able to use a library or even internet cafe, but the pandemic has put paid to those. It is true there are some people with access to neither the internet nor a telephone. If they had the letter and do nothing they can expect a knock on their door (or tent flap or whatever). The question of a fine only arises if people still don't fill it in. Indeed. I have telephoned and requested a form to fill out. It was all automatic, using the ref number on the "threatening" letter. Out of interest, has anyone yet seen the census form or what questions will be asked? -- Jeff |
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There might be one or two who use a satellite link, but I doubt there will be a significant number. I got my invite from Starlink the other week, think I'll pass for now... |
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Jeff Layman wrote: Out of interest, has anyone yet seen the census form or what questions will be asked? Haven't seen it yet but I believe you have to know what sex you are today. They should have another question: "Are you Woke?" -- for which one of the answer tick boxes should be "Am I what?" and another "Just **** off and grow up a bit, will you?" John (not "woke", and by no means asleep) |
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On 06/03/2021 13:37, alan_m wrote:
Through the post today I received a request to fill out the census form with the threat if I didn't I would get a fine of up to £1,000 It looks as if Professor Sir Ian Diamond thinks everyone has internet access, Go to www.census.gov.uk and select "start census" If you want a paper form go to the same URL! Thank you for the reminder, I have now entered my details after requesting a text message with the 12 character code. -- Michael Chare |
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![]() "Robin" wrote in message ... On 06/03/2021 13:37, alan_m wrote: Through the post today I received a request to fill out the census form with the threat if I didn't I would get a fine of up to £1,000 It looks as if Professor Sir Ian Diamond thinks everyone has internet access, Go to www.census.gov.uk and select "start census" If you want a paper form go to the same URL! You omitted "or call 0800....". How many do you know with no internet *and* no phone? It is true there are some people with access to neither the internet nor a telephone. If they had the letter and do nothing they can expect a knock on their door (or tent flap or whatever). The question of a fine only arises if people still don't fill it in. but the letter doesn't tell people without internet access that they can get a paper form you have to go to the website to find that out -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On 06/03/2021 13:37, alan_m wrote:
Through the post today I received a request to fill out the census form with the threat if I didn't I would get a fine of up to £1,000 It looks as if Professor Sir Ian Diamond thinks everyone has internet access, Go to www.census.gov.uk and select "start census" If you want a paper form go to the same URL! It's well worth filling in the census form accurately. Provision of local services is based on it. To the extent local services are provided, of course. |
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![]() "Jeff Layman" wrote in message ... On 06/03/2021 13:54, Robin wrote: On 06/03/2021 13:37, alan_m wrote: Through the post today I received a request to fill out the census form with the threat if I didn't I would get a fine of up to £1,000 It looks as if Professor Sir Ian Diamond thinks everyone has internet access, Go to www.census.gov.uk and select "start census" If you want a paper form go to the same URL! You omitted "or call 0800....". How many do you know with no internet *and* no phone? I would guess that 99.999% of internet connections are made through a phone line, whether POTS, fibre, or mobile. So it is likely that someone with no phone connection will have no internet connection. There might be one or two who use a satellite link, but I doubt there will be a significant number. In other circumstances, I suppose a person without internet connection might have been able to use a library or even internet cafe, but the pandemic has put paid to those. It is true there are some people with access to neither the internet nor a telephone. If they had the letter and do nothing they can expect a knock on their door (or tent flap or whatever). The question of a fine only arises if people still don't fill it in. Indeed. I have telephoned and requested a form to fill out. It was all automatic, using the ref number on the "threatening" letter. Out of interest, has anyone yet seen the census form or what questions will be asked? yup, filled mine in earlier this week compared to previous years it's a noddy questionnaire The only contentious question was "please give a description of your job (or previous one if currently not working)" (120 words) which I thought was well OTT, and not particularly easy to usefully collate as a set of answers |
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Jeff Layman wrote: On 06/03/2021 13:54, Robin wrote: On 06/03/2021 13:37, alan_m wrote: Through the post today I received a request to fill out the census form with the threat if I didn't I would get a fine of up to £1,000 It looks as if Professor Sir Ian Diamond thinks everyone has internet access, Go to www.census.gov.uk and select "start census" If you want a paper form go to the same URL! You omitted "or call 0800....". How many do you know with no internet *and* no phone? I would guess that 99.999% of internet connections are made through a phone line, whether POTS, fibre, or mobile. So it is likely that someone with no phone connection will have no internet connection. There might be one or two who use a satellite link, but I doubt there will be a significant number. In other circumstances, I suppose a person without internet connection might have been able to use a library or even internet cafe, but the pandemic has put paid to those. It is true there are some people with access to neither the internet nor a telephone. If they had the letter and do nothing they can expect a knock on their door (or tent flap or whatever). The question of a fine only arises if people still don't fill it in. Indeed. I have telephoned and requested a form to fill out. It was all automatic, using the ref number on the "threatening" letter. Out of interest, has anyone yet seen the census form or what questions will be asked? I've filled in the on-line form. Two days ago and I've already forgotten what the questions were. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 16:29:32 -0000, "tim..."
wrote: "Robin" wrote in message ... On 06/03/2021 13:37, alan_m wrote: Through the post today I received a request to fill out the census form with the threat if I didn't I would get a fine of up to £1,000 It looks as if Professor Sir Ian Diamond thinks everyone has internet access, Go to www.census.gov.uk and select "start census" If you want a paper form go to the same URL! You omitted "or call 0800....". How many do you know with no internet *and* no phone? It is true there are some people with access to neither the internet nor a telephone. If they had the letter and do nothing they can expect a knock on their door (or tent flap or whatever). The question of a fine only arises if people still don't fill it in. but the letter doesn't tell people without internet access that they can get a paper form you have to go to the website to find that out My letter does. Perhaps Sir Ian is sending different letters to different folks. Nick |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 15:40:58 +0000, Jeff Layman
wrote: Out of interest, has anyone yet seen the census form or what questions will be asked? Did mine yesterday (it can be altered if the situation changes before the due date). Questions about the household, property, education, religion, employment, car ownership come to mind. |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 16:31:09 +0000, GB
wrote: On 06/03/2021 13:37, alan_m wrote: Through the post today I received a request to fill out the census form with the threat if I didn't I would get a fine of up to £1,000 It looks as if Professor Sir Ian Diamond thinks everyone has internet access, Go to www.census.gov.uk and select "start census" If you want a paper form go to the same URL! It's well worth filling in the census form accurately. Provision of local services is based on it. To the extent local services are provided, of course. It's a shame that the 2021 Census is electronic: I presume that the few who complete the paper form will have it converted into an electronic state and the papers will then be shredded. In 2011 I left a message in the additional comments boxes for my great-great-grandchildren who might be searching their ancestry in or after 2111. This year I'd hoped to write something like "Marty! I'm stranded in 2021! Bring the DeLorean and come and get me!" Nick |
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![]() "tim..." wrote in message ... "Jeff Layman" wrote in message ... On 06/03/2021 13:54, Robin wrote: On 06/03/2021 13:37, alan_m wrote: Through the post today I received a request to fill out the census form with the threat if I didn't I would get a fine of up to £1,000 It looks as if Professor Sir Ian Diamond thinks everyone has internet access, Go to www.census.gov.uk and select "start census" If you want a paper form go to the same URL! You omitted "or call 0800....". How many do you know with no internet *and* no phone? I would guess that 99.999% of internet connections are made through a phone line, whether POTS, fibre, or mobile. So it is likely that someone with no phone connection will have no internet connection. There might be one or two who use a satellite link, but I doubt there will be a significant number. In other circumstances, I suppose a person without internet connection might have been able to use a library or even internet cafe, but the pandemic has put paid to those. It is true there are some people with access to neither the internet nor a telephone. If they had the letter and do nothing they can expect a knock on their door (or tent flap or whatever). The question of a fine only arises if people still don't fill it in. Indeed. I have telephoned and requested a form to fill out. It was all automatic, using the ref number on the "threatening" letter. Out of interest, has anyone yet seen the census form or what questions will be asked? yup, filled mine in earlier this week compared to previous years it's a noddy questionnaire The only contentious question was "please give a description of your job (or previous one if currently not working)" (120 words) which I thought was well OTT, and not particularly easy to usefully collate as a set of answers But there is no really viable alternative with that one. Its not even feasible to have and endless list of specific jobs for many. |
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![]() "charles" wrote in message ... In article , Jeff Layman wrote: On 06/03/2021 13:54, Robin wrote: On 06/03/2021 13:37, alan_m wrote: Through the post today I received a request to fill out the census form with the threat if I didn't I would get a fine of up to £1,000 It looks as if Professor Sir Ian Diamond thinks everyone has internet access, Go to www.census.gov.uk and select "start census" If you want a paper form go to the same URL! You omitted "or call 0800....". How many do you know with no internet *and* no phone? I would guess that 99.999% of internet connections are made through a phone line, whether POTS, fibre, or mobile. So it is likely that someone with no phone connection will have no internet connection. There might be one or two who use a satellite link, but I doubt there will be a significant number. In other circumstances, I suppose a person without internet connection might have been able to use a library or even internet cafe, but the pandemic has put paid to those. It is true there are some people with access to neither the internet nor a telephone. If they had the letter and do nothing they can expect a knock on their door (or tent flap or whatever). The question of a fine only arises if people still don't fill it in. Indeed. I have telephoned and requested a form to fill out. It was all automatic, using the ref number on the "threatening" letter. Out of interest, has anyone yet seen the census form or what questions will be asked? I've filled in the on-line form. Two days ago and I've already forgotten what the questions were. That's just the alzhiemers, nothing to worry about. |
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 04:32:13 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: But there is no really viable alternative with that one. But NOBODY talked to you or asked you anything, senile pest from Oz! -- Richard addressing senile Rodent Speed: "**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll." MID: |
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 04:33:16 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 86-year-old senile Australian cretin's pathological trolling: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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On 06/03/2021 15:40, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 06/03/2021 13:54, Robin wrote: On 06/03/2021 13:37, alan_m wrote: Through the post today I received a request to fill out the census form with the threat if I didn't I would get a fine of up to £1,000 It looks as if Professor Sir Ian Diamond thinks everyone has internet access, Go to www.census.gov.uk and select "start census" If you want a paper form go to the same URL! You omitted "or call 0800....". How many do you know with no internet *and* no phone? I would guess that 99.999% of internet connections are made through a phone line, whether POTS, fibre, orÂ* mobile. So it is likely that someone with no phone connection will have no internet connection. There might be one or two who use a satellite link, but I doubt there will be a significant number. The OP's point was not everyone had internet acess to ask for a paper form. Mine was that a lot of people without internet access do have access to a phone and so can use that to ask for a paper form. In other words, I agree very few have internet but no phone but there is a significant minority who have no internet - about 4% of UK households last year - but very probably a phone. -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On 06/03/2021 16:29, tim... wrote:
"Robin" wrote in message ... On 06/03/2021 13:37, alan_m wrote: Through the post today I received a request to fill out the census form with the threat if I didn't I would get a fine of up to £1,000 It looks as if Professor Sir Ian Diamond thinks everyone has internet access, Go to www.census.gov.uk and select "start census" If you want a paper form go to the same URL! You omitted "or call 0800....". How many do you know with no internet *and* no phone? It is true there are some people with access to neither the internet nor a telephone.Â* If they had the letter and do nothing they can expect a knock on their door (or tent flap or whatever).Â* The question of a fine only arises if people still don't fill it in. but the letter doesn't tell people without internet access that they can get a paper form you have to go to the website to find that out does yours not say you can get one by phoning the 0800 number it gives? -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On 06/03/2021 16:31, GB wrote:
On 06/03/2021 13:37, alan_m wrote: Through the post today I received a request to fill out the census form with the threat if I didn't I would get a fine of up to £1,000 It looks as if Professor Sir Ian Diamond thinks everyone has internet access, Go to www.census.gov.uk and select "start census" If you want a paper form go to the same URL! It's well worth filling in the census form accurately. Provision of local services is based on it. You forgot the winking smiley... To the extent local services are provided, of course. Well, it might have been true 150 years ago when most people were born, lived, married, had their children, and died without moving from the place they were born. Today it's completely different and most people move around many times throughout their lives, often hundreds of miles, or abroad, and back again. A census every ten years is a pointlessly expensive exercise in obtaining and analysing out-of-date information. If its local services that information is intended to provide it could be obtained more accurately and quickly through county and district councils, and many other sources of information, such as GP surgery registration info (anonymised, of course). There is. of course, a vast amount of information already online for the majority of the population, which is far more up-to-date than any census will ever be. So, despite previous UK governments saying they were going to stop the census (was it before the previous one or the one before that?), here we are again. It can only be for yet another form of official snooping - and isn't the UK already known around the world as one of the most snooping democracies around? Countries do not need to perform a census on their whole population every ten years. The Netherlands have not had a census for 50 years; the Scandinavian countries base their data on registers and sampling. Other countries also base their data requirements on, for example, a 10% sample every year or two. -- Jeff |
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wrote: It's well worth filling in the census form accurately. Provision of local services is based on it. To the extent local services are provided, of course. No no no - you haven't been listening to The News on't wireless: the emaciated local services that we have become used to over the last decade or so (less and less, year by year) will look like a County Council Cornucopia compared to what we'll get in the future, after they start paying for Covid! It'll all be self-help. And warring tribal factions, as the Police get cut to half of the half-size force they've been made in the last decade or so (see above). Cheerful Charlie |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 15:40:58 +0000, Jeff Layman
wrote: Out of interest, has anyone yet seen the census form or what questions When asked about sexual orientation, horizontal was not allowed. |
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On 06/03/2021 16:05, Another John wrote:
In article , Jeff Layman wrote: Out of interest, has anyone yet seen the census form or what questions will be asked? Haven't seen it yet but I believe you have to know what sex you are today. There seems to be more questions and multi tick box answers on sexual orientation than for any other section however most of these are optional so what's the point in asking them in the first place? -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 06/03/2021 17:32, Rod Speed wrote:
Its not even feasible to have and endless list of specific jobs for many. How do insurance companies cope with that question? -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 06/03/2021 16:31, GB wrote:
It's well worth filling in the census form accurately. Provision of local services is based on it. I doubt that anything in this census actually makes any difference to the provision. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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alan_m wrote: On 06/03/2021 16:05, Another John wrote: Haven't seen it yet but I believe you have to know what sex you are today. There seems to be more questions and multi tick box answers on sexual orientation than for any other section however most of these are optional so what's the point in asking them in the first place? So that they can actually _count_ the vociferous minorities who make such a fuss about LGBTQ+ ("Waaagghhh!!! I don't know _what_ I want! But you should give me it!) Aside: Twitter users apparently number less than 10% of the population. However, they get rather more than 10% of the media's coverage of what is classified as "news". grumble, grumble, grumble John |
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I doubt that anything in this census actually makes any difference to the provision. I though the previous census was going to be the last one, with big brother slurping data from everywhere instead? |
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Rod Speed wrote Its not even feasible to have an endless list of specific jobs for many. How do insurance companies cope with that question? Dunno, never bought that sort of insurance. |
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 07:58:16 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Dunno You dunno??? Are you sick or what? You ALWAYS "know" EVERYTHING, you ridiculous senile "expert" in everything! LMAO -- about senile Rot Speed: "This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage." MID: |
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On Sat, 06 Mar 2021 16:29:32 +0000, tim... wrote:
"Robin" wrote in message ... On 06/03/2021 13:37, alan_m wrote: Through the post today I received a request to fill out the census form with the threat if I didn't I would get a fine of up to £1,000 It looks as if Professor Sir Ian Diamond thinks everyone has internet access, Go to www.census.gov.uk and select "start census" If you want a paper form go to the same URL! You omitted "or call 0800....". How many do you know with no internet *and* no phone? It is true there are some people with access to neither the internet nor a telephone. If they had the letter and do nothing they can expect a knock on their door (or tent flap or whatever). The question of a fine only arises if people still don't fill it in. but the letter doesn't tell people without internet access that they can get a paper form you have to go to the website to find that out The last paragraph of the letter says: "See the enclosed leaflet for how to get help to complete your census. You can request a paper form at www.census.gov.uk or call 0800 141 2021." -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 06/03/2021 20:25, alan_m wrote:
On 06/03/2021 16:05, Another John wrote: In article , Â* Jeff Layman wrote: Out of interest, has anyone yet seen the census form or what questions will be asked? Haven't seen it yet but I believe you have to know what sex you are today. There seems to be more questions and multi tick box answers on sexual orientation than for any other section however most of these are optional so what's the point in asking them in the first place? I hope there's "None of the above". Probably just "Don't know" or "Prefer not to answer", which don't mean the same thing. -- Max Demian |
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On 06/03/2021 20:27, alan_m wrote:
On 06/03/2021 17:32, Rod Speed wrote: Its not even feasible to have and endless list of specific jobs for many. How do insurance companies cope with that question? My job title has been, for some years, "Senior Control and Instrumentation Engineer" or "Senior Control, Electrical and Instrumentation Engineer", with "Control" being the major part. For insurance, I have always had to put "Instrument Engineer", "Electrical Engineer" or "Engineering Consultant", as there is not mention of "Control" Engineering . |
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On 06/03/2021 17:54, Robin wrote:
On 06/03/2021 15:40, Jeff Layman wrote: On 06/03/2021 13:54, Robin wrote: On 06/03/2021 13:37, alan_m wrote: Through the post today I received a request to fill out the census form with the threat if I didn't I would get a fine of up to £1,000 It looks as if Professor Sir Ian Diamond thinks everyone has internet access, Go to www.census.gov.uk and select "start census" If you want a paper form go to the same URL! You omitted "or call 0800....". How many do you know with no internet *and* no phone? I would guess that 99.999% of internet connections are made through a phone line, whether POTS, fibre, orÂ* mobile. So it is likely that someone with no phone connection will have no internet connection. There might be one or two who use a satellite link, but I doubt there will be a significant number. The OP's point was not everyone had internet acess to ask for a paper form.Â* Mine was that a lot of people without internet access do have access to a phone and so can use that to ask for a paper form.Â*Â* In other words, I agree very few have internet but no phone but there is a significant minority who have no internet - about 4% of UK households last year - but very probably a phone. And there are still some phone-boxes. |
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 00:59:06 +0000, Steve Walker
wrote: On 06/03/2021 20:27, alan_m wrote: On 06/03/2021 17:32, Rod Speed wrote: Its not even feasible to have and endless list of specific jobs for many. How do insurance companies cope with that question? My job title has been, for some years, "Senior Control and Instrumentation Engineer" or "Senior Control, Electrical and Instrumentation Engineer", with "Control" being the major part. For insurance, I have always had to put "Instrument Engineer", "Electrical Engineer" or "Engineering Consultant", as there is not mention of "Control" Engineering . My insurance broker persuaded me from the start to call myself an Instrument Maker rather than a Musical Instrument Maker because the first five letters of the full title lead insurance companies to believe that you are a doped-up waster who crashes cars and smashes up guitars in hotel rooms. Nick |
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No Not true the telephone number if a free one and available widely, indeed
I heard it on the radio just this morning. If its not in the letter, then maybe that was because they printed them before the number was finalised, Scotland has deferred theirs till next year, and Wales has a different number. Can it really be that hard to ask a friend to get the number? I can say this, you will not be fined unless you constructively. they will be calling on addresses that do not respond later in the year, as the idea is that March 21 is census day, but not the day it absolutely has to be done. Some people may be in hospital for a start! Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "alan_m" wrote in message ... Through the post today I received a request to fill out the census form with the threat if I didn't I would get a fine of up to £1,000 It looks as if Professor Sir Ian Diamond thinks everyone has internet access, Go to www.census.gov.uk and select "start census" If you want a paper form go to the same URL! -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 07/03/2021 09:07, Nick Odell wrote:
On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 00:59:06 +0000, Steve Walker wrote: On 06/03/2021 20:27, alan_m wrote: On 06/03/2021 17:32, Rod Speed wrote: Its not even feasible to have and endless list of specific jobs for many. How do insurance companies cope with that question? My job title has been, for some years, "Senior Control and Instrumentation Engineer" or "Senior Control, Electrical and Instrumentation Engineer", with "Control" being the major part. For insurance, I have always had to put "Instrument Engineer", "Electrical Engineer" or "Engineering Consultant", as there is not mention of "Control" Engineering . My insurance broker persuaded me from the start to call myself an Instrument Maker rather than a Musical Instrument Maker because the first five letters of the full title lead insurance companies to believe that you are a doped-up waster who crashes cars and smashes up guitars in hotel rooms. I believe it's difficult to get car insurance if you know any famous guitarists in case they trap a finger in the door. I don't know how they would find out, but I expect they would invalidate the insurance if they did, regardless of the claim. -- Max Demian |
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 10:26:57 +0000, Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) wrote:
No Not true the telephone number if a free one and available widely, indeed I heard it on the radio just this morning. If its not in the letter, then maybe that was because they printed them before the number was finalised, Just saw someone on Twitter complaining about the same thing. They even posted an image of the letter - complete with the sentence giving the phone number. I pointed this out, and they blocked me. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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