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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnames toscreen out bookings.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56246848
The ECHR has found Pontins breached the 2010 Equality Act Pontins has agreed to change its working practices after disclosure it had a blacklist of Irish surnames used to screen out bookings for its holiday parks. Interesting from a legal point of veiw? |
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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnames to screen out bookings.
"Jack Harry Teesdale" wrote in message
... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56246848 The ECHR has found Pontins breached the 2010 Equality Act Pontins has agreed to change its working practices after disclosure it had a blacklist of Irish surnames used to screen out bookings for its holiday parks. Interesting from a legal point of veiw? Very embarrassing for Pontins if they are selecting which customers to take bookings from on racial/ethnic grounds, and especially if they use a discriminator that is as crude (ie imprecise) as banned surnames, given that there will not be an exact correlation between surname and ethnic origin. I wonder what effect this news will have on bookings and on investments by other companies. |
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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnames to screen out bookings.
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Jack Harry Teesdale wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56246848 The ECHR has found Pontins breached the 2010 Equality Act Pontins has agreed to change its working practices after disclosure it had a blacklist of Irish surnames used to screen out bookings for its holiday parks. Interesting from a legal point of veiw? They must be mad. Lots of English with Irish surnames these days. -- *Money isn't everything, but it sure keeps the kids in touch. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnamesto screen out bookings.
On 02/03/2021 15:54, NY wrote:
"Jack Harry Teesdale" wrote in message ... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56246848 The ECHR has found Pontins breached the 2010 Equality Act Pontins has agreed to change its working practices after disclosure it had a blacklist of Irish surnames used to screen out bookings for its holiday parks. Interesting from a legal point of veiw? Very embarrassing for Pontins if they are selecting which customers to take bookings from on racial/ethnic grounds, and especially if they use a discriminator that is as crude (ie imprecise) as banned surnames, given that there will not be an exact correlation between surname and ethnic origin. I wonder what effect this news will have on bookings and on investments by other companies. Bookings and investments would be up I imagine -- €œit should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism (or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans, about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a 'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,' a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that you live neither in Joseph Stalins Communist era, nor in the Orwellian utopia of 1984.€ Vaclav Klaus |
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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnamesto screen out bookings.
On 02/03/2021 15:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Jack Harry Teesdale wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56246848 The ECHR has found Pontins breached the 2010 Equality Act Pontins has agreed to change its working practices after disclosure it had a blacklist of Irish surnames used to screen out bookings for its holiday parks. Interesting from a legal point of veiw? They must be mad. Lots of English with Irish surnames these days. Pontin - what is the ethnic origin of that name? |
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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnamesto screen out bookings.
On 02/03/2021 16:09, GB wrote:
On 02/03/2021 15:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Â*Â*Â* Jack Harry Teesdale wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56246848 The ECHR has found Pontins breached the 2010 Equality Act Pontins has agreed to change its working practices after disclosure it had a blacklist of Irish surnames used to screen out bookings for its holiday parks. Interesting from a legal point of veiw? They must be mad. Lots of English with Irish surnames these days. Pontin - what is the ethnic origin of that name? Australian :0-)( Seriously its Norman English It means Bridgeman or Bridges in Norman French -- Theres a mighty big difference between good, sound reasons and reasons that sound good. Burton Hillis (William Vaughn, American columnist) |
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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnamesto screen out bookings.
On 02/03/2021 15:50, Jack Harry Teesdale wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56246848 The ECHR has found Pontins breached the 2010 Equality Act Pontins has agreed to change its working practices after disclosure it had a blacklist of Irish surnames used to screen out bookings for its holiday parks. Interesting from a legal point of veiw? they know who to watch out for from experience..... |
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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnamesto screen out bookings.
On 02/03/2021 15:50, Jack Harry Teesdale wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56246848 The ECHR has found Pontins breached the 2010 Equality Act Pontins has agreed to change its working practices after disclosure it had a blacklist of Irish surnames used to screen out bookings for its holiday parks. Interesting from a legal point of veiw? they blocked Paddy o' Doors .... |
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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnames to screen out bookings.
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I sometimes worry when I see people on a Canaries Forum asking for Villa for 12 people. |
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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnames to screen out bookings.
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... On 02/03/2021 16:09, GB wrote: On 02/03/2021 15:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Jack Harry Teesdale wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56246848 The ECHR has found Pontins breached the 2010 Equality Act Pontins has agreed to change its working practices after disclosure it had a blacklist of Irish surnames used to screen out bookings for its holiday parks. Interesting from a legal point of veiw? They must be mad. Lots of English with Irish surnames these days. Pontin - what is the ethnic origin of that name? Australian :0-)( Seriously its Norman English Nope, its a saxon name. https://www.houseofnames.com/pontin-...ce%20prevailed. It means Bridgeman or Bridges in Norman French |
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More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 08:44:55 +1100, Fred, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- dennis@home to know-it-all Rodent Speed: "You really should stop commenting on things you know nothing about." Message-ID: |
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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnames to screen out bookings.
Yes this does sound terribly lazy, and obviously offensive..
It has to be said though that any seller of goods or services can decline to sell to anyone they like. However discriminating on such flimsy grounds is clearly wrong and downright lazy. I guess they must have had issues with travellers and other groups who caused trouble, but to not even give them the chance seems really a bit like shooting the business in the foot. I wonder how they found out? Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Jack Harry Teesdale" wrote in message ... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56246848 The ECHR has found Pontins breached the 2010 Equality Act Pontins has agreed to change its working practices after disclosure it had a blacklist of Irish surnames used to screen out bookings for its holiday parks. Interesting from a legal point of veiw? |
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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnamesto screen out bookings.
On 02/03/2021 18:08, JohnP wrote:
I sometimes worry when I see people on a Canaries Forum asking for Villa for 12 people. four grandparents, a couple of children and their spouses, and a few grandchildren can soon mount up. Of course so can a sports team... Andy |
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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnames to screen out bookings.
I wonder how they found out? Brian Whistle blower at Pontins |
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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnames to screen out bookings.
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Jack Harry Teesdale wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56246848 The ECHR has found Pontins breached the 2010 Equality Act Pontins has agreed to change its working practices after disclosure it had a blacklist of Irish surnames used to screen out bookings for its holiday parks. Interesting from a legal point of veiw? They must be mad. Lots of English with Irish surnames these days. I know several Mckennas (not related) none of which are Irish |
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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnamesto screen out bookings.
On 03/03/2021 10:13, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
I don't know but often their rates are pretty low which will attract the less well off, I'd imagine. My surname apparently was changed many generations ago from Gaffney to Gaff, due to the former having Irish connections. Who knows why. Brian No blacks, no Irish, no dogs? -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnames to screen out bookings.
Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote
Yes this does sound terribly lazy, and obviously offensive.. It has to be said though that any seller of goods or services can decline to sell to anyone they like. That’s not true with illegal discrimination. However discriminating on such flimsy grounds is clearly wrong and downright lazy. And illegal. I guess they must have had issues with travellers and other groups who caused trouble, Or are just rabid bigots. Plenty are like that with moslems. but to not even give them the chance seems really a bit like shooting the business in the foot. I wonder how they found out? Bet some ex employee spilt the beans. "Jack Harry Teesdale" wrote in message ... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56246848 The ECHR has found Pontins breached the 2010 Equality Act Pontins has agreed to change its working practices after disclosure it had a blacklist of Irish surnames used to screen out bookings for its holiday parks. Interesting from a legal point of veiw? |
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More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 05:50:14 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile pest's latest troll**** unread -- The Natural Philosopher about senile Rodent: "Rod speed is not a Brexiteer. He is an Australian troll and arsehole." Message-ID: |
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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnamesto screen out bookings.
On 02/03/2021 15:50, Jack Harry Teesdale wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56246848 The ECHR has found Pontins breached the 2010 Equality Act Pontins has agreed to change its working practices after disclosure it had a blacklist of Irish surnames used to screen out bookings for its holiday parks. Interesting from a legal point of veiw? What is interesting is that given it's a business and as such they will like making money these measures must have had consultation and been deemed necessary. But nobody is allowed to openly discuss that elephant in the room are they? |
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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnames to screen out bookings.
"R D S" wrote in message ... On 02/03/2021 15:50, Jack Harry Teesdale wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56246848 The ECHR has found Pontins breached the 2010 Equality Act Pontins has agreed to change its working practices after disclosure it had a blacklist of Irish surnames used to screen out bookings for its holiday parks. Interesting from a legal point of veiw? What is interesting is that given it's a business and as such they will like making money these measures must have had consultation and been deemed necessary. Not necessarily, it could just as easily have been a choice made by a mindless bigot just like the original ban on blacks, wogs and dogs was. But nobody is allowed to openly discuss that elephant in the room are they? More bull****. |
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Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 05:23:18 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- "Who or What is Rod Speed? Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard man" on the InterNet." https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnamesto screen out bookings.
On 04/03/2021 10:39, R D S wrote:
On 02/03/2021 15:50, Jack Harry Teesdale wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56246848 The ECHR has found Pontins breached the 2010 Equality Act Pontins has agreed to change its working practices after disclosure it had a blacklist of Irish surnames used to screen out bookings for its holiday parks. Interesting from a legal point of veiw? What is interesting is that given it's a business and as such they will like making money these measures must have had consultation and been deemed necessary. But nobody is allowed to openly discuss that elephant in the room are they? There is not much to discuss. Pikeys are an inbred load of annoying thieving ****s and normal people do not want to spend time with them. -- Adam |
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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnames to screen out bookings.
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ARW wrote: On 04/03/2021 10:39, R D S wrote: On 02/03/2021 15:50, Jack Harry Teesdale wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56246848 The ECHR has found Pontins breached the 2010 Equality Act Pontins has agreed to change its working practices after disclosure it had a blacklist of Irish surnames used to screen out bookings for its holiday parks. Interesting from a legal point of veiw? What is interesting is that given it's a business and as such they will like making money these measures must have had consultation and been deemed necessary. But nobody is allowed to openly discuss that elephant in the room are they? There is not much to discuss. Pikeys are an inbred load of annoying thieving ****s and normal people do not want to spend time with them. Not a new problem (though their tools, such as motor vehicles and much, much more threateningly so, smartphones, are). The great writer JB Priestly had summat to say in 1934, in his book "English journey" -- see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Journey John |
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Holiday Park company had 'undesireables list' of Irish surnamesto screen out bookings.
On 03/03/2021 17:08, alan_m wrote:
On 03/03/2021 10:13, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote: I don't know but often their rates are pretty low which will attract the less well off, I'd imagine. Â* My surname apparently was changed many generations ago from Gaffney to Gaff, due to the former having Irish connections. Who knows why. Â* Brian No blacks, no Irish, no dogs? No Pikeys, or Tarmacadam technicians |
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