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I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just
now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the 300,002nd.) But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. Bill |
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williamwright wrote
I had a thought this morning, Dangerous business. as a lay there too idle to get up. So just now googled to get my facts straight. But failed miserably at that. We represent the 300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the 300,002nd.) Thats mad, there is no date for the 1st generation. But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Thats nothing like reality. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. And that in spades. So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. And you mangled that too. |
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More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 06:47:16 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- Richard addressing senile Rodent Speed: "**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll." MID: |
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On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:
I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the 300,002nd.) But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. Doesn't mean we are happy. Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what then? -- Max Demian |
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On 01/03/2021 19:47, Rod Speed wrote:
Thats mad, there is no date for the 1st generation. Ken Ham says the age of the Universe to be about 6,000 years -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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"Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote: I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the 300,002nd.) But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. Doesn't mean we are happy. Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what then? You die. |
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"alan_m" wrote in message ... On 01/03/2021 19:47, Rod Speed wrote: Thats mad, there is no date for the 1st generation. Ken Ham says the age of the Universe to be about 6,000 years Even that doesnt produce his 300K generations unless he is a cockroach. |
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More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 09:22:32 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- Richard addressing senile Rodent Speed: "**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll." MID: |
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On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:
But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. The perceived short life of adults was largely due to infant mortality having a dominant effect of average life expectancy. Have a look at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longevity "For example, an 1871 census in the UK (the first of its kind, but personal data from other censuses dates back to 1841 and numerical data back to 1801) found the average male life expectancy as being 44, but if infant mortality is subtracted, males who lived to adulthood averaged 75 years. The present life expectancy in the UK is 77 years for males and 81 for females". So nothing has really changed. |
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On 01/03/2021 22:44, Fredxx wrote:
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote: But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. The perceived short life of adults was largely due to infant mortality having a dominant effect of average life expectancy. Have a look at: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longevity "For example, an 1871 census in the UK (the first of its kind, but personal data from other censuses dates back to 1841 and numerical data back to 1801) found the average male life expectancy as being 44, but if infant mortality is subtracted, males who lived to adulthood averaged 75 years. The present life expectancy in the UK is 77 years for males and 81 for females". So nothing has really changed. +1 |
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On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:
I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the 300,002nd.) But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. Bill some of us are even luckier and are on borrowed time... |
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Ha ha ha...
Has he fallen of the edge of the world yet? Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "alan_m" wrote in message ... On 01/03/2021 19:47, Rod Speed wrote: That's mad, there is no date for the 1st generation. Ken Ham says the age of the Universe to be about 6,000 years -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote
I see, well the problem is of course if we were born back then we would think the short life span was normal Nope, I wasnt and I am older than you. and probably all go to church to pray for our salvation when we die. I never did that either. Now however most people live long enough to have got fed up with living Dont buy that either. and the thought of living forever in some afterlife is not quite so attractive. Ditto. "williamwright" wrote in message ... I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the 300,002nd.) But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. Bill |
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On Tue, 02 Mar 2021 08:16:34 +0000, Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) wrote:
I see, well the problem is of course if we were born back then we would think the short life span was normal and probably all go to church to pray for our salvation when we die. Now however most people live long enough to have got fed up with living and the thought of living forever in some afterlife is not quite so attractive. Brian Is that a reference to the jewish snake oil salesman. |
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On 01/03/2021 22:44, Fredxx wrote:
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote: But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. The perceived short life of adults was largely due to infant mortality having a dominant effect of average life expectancy. Have a look at: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longevity "For example, an 1871 census in the UK (the first of its kind, but personal data from other censuses dates back to 1841 and numerical data back to 1801) found the average male life expectancy as being 44, but if infant mortality is subtracted, males who lived to adulthood averaged 75 years. The present life expectancy in the UK is 77 years for males and 81 for females". So nothing has really changed. Go back further with the bible. The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years.... -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 02/03/2021 08:18, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
Ha ha ha... Has he fallen of the edge of the world yet? Brian No. he is still waiting for the flood - he has built an Ark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeNOURXWCmM -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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"Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote: I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the 300,002nd.) But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. Doesn't mean we are happy. Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what then? what do you mean by that? what happens afterwards or what do you do with yourself doddering around like a 90 YO My dad lived to 86 (I think) beyond 80 he was virtually house bound. Is that a life? Fortunately, none of our family suffered from dementia |
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More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 19:49:43 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 86-year-old senile Australian cretin's pathological trolling: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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tim... wrote: "Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote: I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the 300,002nd.) But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. Doesn't mean we are happy. Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what then? what do you mean by that? what happens afterwards or what do you do with yourself doddering around like a 90 YO My dad lived to 86 (I think) beyond 80 he was virtually house bound. Is that a life? I'm 80 - only housebound because of lockdown - but I try to get a 3+ mile walk done most days. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On 02/03/2021 09:45, tim... wrote:
"Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote: I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the 300,002nd.) But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. Doesn't mean we are happy. Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what then? what do you mean by that? what happens afterwards or what do you do with yourself doddering around like a 90 YO Yeah; even being a healthy 95-year-old would hardly be worth it, from what I've seen of people of that age and more. My dad lived to 86 (I think) beyond 80 he was virtually house bound.* Is that a life? That's rather soon. My father lived to 92, though, towards the end, found it hard to go far due to heart problems (which are a family trait). Fortunately, none of our family suffered from dementia My mother had it and died at 87. I don't know if it's hereditary. -- Max Demian |
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On 02/03/2021 09:22, alan_m wrote:
On 02/03/2021 08:18, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote: Ha ha ha... * Has he fallen of the edge of the world yet? * Brian No. he is still waiting for the flood - he has built an Ark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeNOURXWCmM The ark cost around 100 million dollars to build and is 510 feet long, 85 feet wide, and 51 feet high. It took a team of over a 1000 to build over a period of 18 months. According to Ken, Noah and his sons build the equivalent sized ark in around the same time, however, they didn't also have to build the large restaurant and gift shop -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 02/03/2021 10:24, charles wrote:
I'm 80 - only housebound because of lockdown - but I try to get a 3+ mile walk done most days. You do your 3 mile walk inside the house? |
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On 01/03/2021 22:44, Fredxx wrote:
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote: But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. The perceived short life of adults was largely due to infant mortality having a dominant effect of average life expectancy. Thank you for debunking the myth. It's interesting that a life expectancy table was compiled from old Roman tombstones, and these showed much the same result. Lots of deaths under age 15, but people who survived to 15 mostly lived to around 70. Of course, the average was indeed 30, but that has been misinterpreted. |
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On 02/03/2021 10:54, Max Demian wrote:
On 02/03/2021 09:45, tim... wrote: "Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote: I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the 300,002nd.) But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. Doesn't mean we are happy. Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what then? what do you mean by that? what happens afterwards or what do you do with yourself doddering around like a 90 YO Yeah; even being a healthy 95-year-old would hardly be worth it, from what I've seen of people of that age and more. My dad lived to 86 (I think) beyond 80 he was virtually house bound. Is that a life? That's rather soon. My father lived to 92, though, towards the end, found it hard to go far due to heart problems (which are a family trait). Fortunately, none of our family suffered from dementia My mother had it and died at 87. I don't know if it's hereditary. The ONS website has an interesting interactive graph showing the percentage of the population over 65 and over 80 from 1996 to 2036. Looks like we need a global pandemic to slow down or reverse this trend. Oh dear. |
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On 02/03/2021 06:51, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote: I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the 300,002nd.) But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. Bill some of us are even luckier and are on borrowed time... Nature has, in reality, bestowed no greater blessing on man than the shortness of life, Pliny remarks. The senses become dull, the limbs torpid, the sight, the hearing, the legs, the teeth, and the organs of digestion, all of them die before us He can think of only one person, a musician who lived to 105, who had a pleasantly healthy old age. (Pliny himself reached barely half that; hes thought to have died from volcanic gases during the eruption of Mt Vesuvius, aged 56). |
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On 02/03/2021 06:51, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote: I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the 300,002nd.) But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. Bill some of us are even luckier and are on borrowed time... And other peoples money :-( |
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On 02/03/2021 11:39, Andrew wrote:
On 02/03/2021 10:54, Max Demian wrote: On 02/03/2021 09:45, tim... wrote: "Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote: I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the 300,002nd.) But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. Doesn't mean we are happy. Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what then? what do you mean by that? what happens afterwards or what do you do with yourself doddering around like a 90 YO Yeah; even being a healthy 95-year-old would hardly be worth it, from what I've seen of people of that age and more. My dad lived to 86 (I think) beyond 80 he was virtually house bound. Is that a life? That's rather soon. My father lived to 92, though, towards the end, found it hard to go far due to heart problems (which are a family trait). Fortunately, none of our family suffered from dementia My mother had it and died at 87. I don't know if it's hereditary. The ONS website has an interesting interactive graph showing the percentage of the population over 65 and over 80 from 1996 to 2036. Looks like we need a global pandemic to slow down or reverse this trend. Oh dear. Forgot the link https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ation/july2017 |
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On 02/03/2021 11:42, Andrew wrote:
On 02/03/2021 06:51, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote: On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote: I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the 300,002nd.) But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. Bill some of us are even luckier and are on borrowed time... And other peoples money :-( nope I owe nothing ... |
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On 02/03/2021 08:16, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
I see, well the problem is of course if we were born back then we would think the short life span was normal and probably all go to church to pray for our salvation when we die. Now however most people live long enough to have got fed up with living and the thought of living forever in some afterlife is not quite so attractive. Brian come and live and eat in Glasgow if you hanker for a short life...... |
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Jimmy Stewart ... wrote: On 02/03/2021 08:16, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote: I see, well the problem is of course if we were born back then we would think the short life span was normal and probably all go to church to pray for our salvation when we die. Now however most people live long enough to have got fed up with living and the thought of living forever in some afterlife is not quite so attractive. Brian come and live and eat in Glasgow if you hanker for a short life...... But living in Glasgow would make any life seem an eternity? -- *Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"tim..." wrote in message ... "Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote: I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the 300,002nd.) But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. Doesn't mean we are happy. Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what then? what do you mean by that? what happens afterwards or what do you do with yourself doddering around like a 90 YO My dad lived to 86 (I think) beyond 80 he was virtually house bound. Couple I know at that age arent. Is that a life? Corse it can be for some. Fortunately, none of our family suffered from dementia Yeah, just found out about another person I have known well who is now so bad that he only recognises just one of his 3 sons anymore. Fortunately its the one who looks after him. |
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"Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 02/03/2021 09:45, tim... wrote: "Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote: I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the 300,002nd.) But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. Doesn't mean we are happy. Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what then? what do you mean by that? what happens afterwards or what do you do with yourself doddering around like a 90 YO Yeah; even being a healthy 95-year-old would hardly be worth it, from what I've seen of people of that age and more. I know one who is still doing fine. My dad lived to 86 (I think) beyond 80 he was virtually house bound. Is that a life? That's rather soon. My father lived to 92, though, towards the end, found it hard to go far due to heart problems (which are a family trait). Fortunately, none of our family suffered from dementia My mother had it and died at 87. I don't know if it's hereditary. Quite a bit of it is, but there is some evidence that some of it is environmental too. |
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"Andrew" wrote in message ... On 02/03/2021 10:54, Max Demian wrote: On 02/03/2021 09:45, tim... wrote: "Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote: I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the 300,002nd.) But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. Doesn't mean we are happy. Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what then? what do you mean by that? what happens afterwards or what do you do with yourself doddering around like a 90 YO Yeah; even being a healthy 95-year-old would hardly be worth it, from what I've seen of people of that age and more. My dad lived to 86 (I think) beyond 80 he was virtually house bound. Is that a life? That's rather soon. My father lived to 92, though, towards the end, found it hard to go far due to heart problems (which are a family trait). Fortunately, none of our family suffered from dementia My mother had it and died at 87. I don't know if it's hereditary. The ONS website has an interesting interactive graph showing the percentage of the population over 65 and over 80 from 1996 to 2036. Looks like we need a global pandemic to slow down or reverse this trend. Oh dear. It remains to be seen how that works out, even the world wars didnt have much effect. |
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"GB" wrote in message ... On 02/03/2021 06:51, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote: On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote: I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the 300,002nd.) But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. some of us are even luckier and are on borrowed time... Nature has, in reality, bestowed no greater blessing on man than the shortness of life, Pliny remarks. The senses become dull, the limbs torpid, the sight, the hearing, the legs, the teeth, and the organs of digestion, all of them die before us I havent got any of that. And in those days medicine was much less effective than it is now, He can think of only one person, a musician who lived to 105, who had a pleasantly healthy old age. But we know of quite a few who do now. (Pliny himself reached barely half that; hes thought to have died from volcanic gases during the eruption of Mt Vesuvius, aged 56). So he is hardly an expert on life in old age. |
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OT: We are very lucky
"Andrew" wrote in message ... On 02/03/2021 06:51, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote: On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote: I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the 300,002nd.) But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties. So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being humans who can expect a long lifespan. some of us are even luckier and are on borrowed time... And other peoples money :-( I'm not. I'm too lazy to do the paperwork for the state aged pension because I wont be able to spend my vast accumulated wealth before I die. |
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Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 06:08:53 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile pest's latest troll**** unread -- Richard addressing senile Rodent Speed: "**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll." MID: |
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More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 06:29:33 +1100, Fred, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- Sqwertz to Rodent Speed: "This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative asshole. MID: |
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More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 06:35:56 +1100, Fred, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 86-year-old senile Australian cretin's pathological trolling: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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OT: We are very lucky
On 02/03/2021 19:18, Rod Speed wrote:
"Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 02/03/2021 09:45, tim... wrote: "Max Demian" wrote in message Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what then? what do you mean by that? [...] what do you do with yourself doddering around like a 90 YO Yeah; even being a healthy 95-year-old would hardly be worth it, from what I've seen of people of that age and more. I know one who is still doing fine. FSVO "doing fine". People say, "He's marvellous for his age." -- Max Demian |
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