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williamwright March 1st 21 06:22 PM

OT: We are very lucky
 
I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just
now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th
generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are
the 300,002nd.)
But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before
they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and
few survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being
humans who can expect a long lifespan.

Bill

Rod Speed March 1st 21 07:47 PM

OT: We are very lucky
 
williamwright wrote

I had a thought this morning,


Dangerous business.

as a lay there too idle to get up. So just now googled to get my facts
straight.


But failed miserably at that.

We represent the 300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are
300,001st; their kids are the 300,002nd.)


Thats mad, there is no date for the 1st generation.

But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before
they were fifty, and many died in their thirties.


Thats nothing like reality.

Go back further and few survived beyond their twenties.


And that in spades.

So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being
humans who can expect a long lifespan.


And you mangled that too.


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Max Demian March 1st 21 09:36 PM

OT: We are very lucky
 
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:

I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just
now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th
generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are
the 300,002nd.)
But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before
they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and
few survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of being
humans who can expect a long lifespan.


Doesn't mean we are happy.

Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what then?

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alan_m March 1st 21 09:56 PM

OT: We are very lucky
 
On 01/03/2021 19:47, Rod Speed wrote:


Thats mad, there is no date for the 1st generation.


Ken Ham says the age of the Universe to be about 6,000 years

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Rod Speed March 1st 21 10:22 PM

OT: We are very lucky
 


"Max Demian" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:

I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just
now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th
generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the
300,002nd.)
But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before
they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few
survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being
humans who can expect a long lifespan.


Doesn't mean we are happy.

Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what then?


You die.


Rod Speed March 1st 21 10:25 PM

OT: We are very lucky
 


"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 01/03/2021 19:47, Rod Speed wrote:


Thats mad, there is no date for the 1st generation.


Ken Ham says the age of the Universe to be about 6,000 years


Even that doesnt produce his 300K generations unless he is a cockroach.


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Fredxx[_4_] March 1st 21 10:44 PM

OT: We are very lucky
 
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:


But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before
they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and
few survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of being
humans who can expect a long lifespan.


The perceived short life of adults was largely due to infant mortality
having a dominant effect of average life expectancy.

Have a look at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longevity

"For example, an 1871 census in the UK (the first of its kind, but
personal data from other censuses dates back to 1841 and numerical data
back to 1801) found the average male life expectancy as being 44, but if
infant mortality is subtracted, males who lived to adulthood averaged 75
years. The present life expectancy in the UK is 77 years for males and
81 for females".

So nothing has really changed.


ss March 2nd 21 12:28 AM

OT: We are very lucky
 
On 01/03/2021 22:44, Fredxx wrote:
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:


But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before
they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and
few survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of being
humans who can expect a long lifespan.


The perceived short life of adults was largely due to infant mortality
having a dominant effect of average life expectancy.

Have a look at:
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longevity

"For example, an 1871 census in the UK (the first of its kind, but
personal data from other censuses dates back to 1841 and numerical data
back to 1801) found the average male life expectancy as being 44, but if
infant mortality is subtracted, males who lived to adulthood averaged 75
years. The present life expectancy in the UK is 77 years for males and
81 for females".

So nothing has really changed.


+1

Jimmy Stewart ... March 2nd 21 06:51 AM

OT: We are very lucky
 
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:
I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just
now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th
generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are
the 300,002nd.)
But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before
they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and
few survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of being
humans who can expect a long lifespan.

Bill

some of us are even luckier and are on borrowed time...

Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) March 2nd 21 08:16 AM

We are very lucky
 
I see, well the problem is of course if we were born back then we would
think the short life span was normal and probably all go to church to pray
for our salvation when we die. Now however most people live long enough to
have got fed up with living and the thought of living forever in some
afterlife is not quite so attractive.
Brian

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"williamwright" wrote in message
...
I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just
now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th
generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the
300,002nd.)
But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before
they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few
survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being
humans who can expect a long lifespan.

Bill




Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) March 2nd 21 08:18 AM

OT: We are very lucky
 
Ha ha ha...
Has he fallen of the edge of the world yet?
Brian

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"alan_m" wrote in message
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On 01/03/2021 19:47, Rod Speed wrote:


That's mad, there is no date for the 1st generation.


Ken Ham says the age of the Universe to be about 6,000 years

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Rod Speed March 2nd 21 08:49 AM

We are very lucky
 
Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote

I see, well the problem is of course if we were born back then we would
think the short life span was normal


Nope, I wasnt and I am older than you.

and probably all go to church to pray for our salvation when we die.


I never did that either.

Now however most people live long enough to have got fed up with living


Dont buy that either.

and the thought of living forever in some afterlife is not quite so
attractive.


Ditto.

"williamwright" wrote in message
...
I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just
now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th
generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the
300,002nd.)
But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before
they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few
survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being
humans who can expect a long lifespan.

Bill




jon March 2nd 21 09:02 AM

We are very lucky
 
On Tue, 02 Mar 2021 08:16:34 +0000, Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) wrote:

I see, well the problem is of course if we were born back then we would
think the short life span was normal and probably all go to church to
pray for our salvation when we die. Now however most people live long
enough to have got fed up with living and the thought of living forever
in some afterlife is not quite so attractive.
Brian



Is that a reference to the jewish snake oil salesman.

alan_m March 2nd 21 09:05 AM

OT: We are very lucky
 
On 01/03/2021 22:44, Fredxx wrote:
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:


But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before
they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and
few survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of being
humans who can expect a long lifespan.


The perceived short life of adults was largely due to infant mortality
having a dominant effect of average life expectancy.

Have a look at:
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longevity

"For example, an 1871 census in the UK (the first of its kind, but
personal data from other censuses dates back to 1841 and numerical data
back to 1801) found the average male life expectancy as being 44, but if
infant mortality is subtracted, males who lived to adulthood averaged 75
years. The present life expectancy in the UK is 77 years for males and
81 for females".

So nothing has really changed.


Go back further with the bible.
The days of our years are threescore years and ten;
and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years....

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alan_m March 2nd 21 09:22 AM

OT: We are very lucky
 
On 02/03/2021 08:18, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
Ha ha ha...
Has he fallen of the edge of the world yet?
Brian



No. he is still waiting for the flood - he has built an Ark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeNOURXWCmM



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tim...[_2_] March 2nd 21 09:45 AM

OT: We are very lucky
 


"Max Demian" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:

I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just
now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th
generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the
300,002nd.)
But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before
they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few
survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being
humans who can expect a long lifespan.


Doesn't mean we are happy.

Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what then?


what do you mean by that?

what happens afterwards

or

what do you do with yourself doddering around like a 90 YO

My dad lived to 86 (I think) beyond 80 he was virtually house bound. Is
that a life?

Fortunately, none of our family suffered from dementia






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charles March 2nd 21 10:24 AM

OT: We are very lucky
 
In article ,
tim... wrote:


"Max Demian" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:

I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just
now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th
generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are the
300,002nd.)
But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before
they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and few
survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being
humans who can expect a long lifespan.


Doesn't mean we are happy.

Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what then?


what do you mean by that?


what happens afterwards


or


what do you do with yourself doddering around like a 90 YO


My dad lived to 86 (I think) beyond 80 he was virtually house bound. Is
that a life?


I'm 80 - only housebound because of lockdown - but I try to get a 3+ mile
walk done most days.




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Max Demian March 2nd 21 10:54 AM

OT: We are very lucky
 
On 02/03/2021 09:45, tim... wrote:
"Max Demian" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:

I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So
just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the
300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st;
their kids are the 300,002nd.)
But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died
before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back
further and few survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of
being humans who can expect a long lifespan.


Doesn't mean we are happy.

Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what then?


what do you mean by that?

what happens afterwards

or

what do you do with yourself doddering around like a 90 YO


Yeah; even being a healthy 95-year-old would hardly be worth it, from
what I've seen of people of that age and more.

My dad lived to 86 (I think) beyond 80 he was virtually house bound.* Is
that a life?


That's rather soon. My father lived to 92, though, towards the end,
found it hard to go far due to heart problems (which are a family trait).

Fortunately, none of our family suffered from dementia


My mother had it and died at 87. I don't know if it's hereditary.

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alan_m March 2nd 21 11:11 AM

OT: We are very lucky
 
On 02/03/2021 09:22, alan_m wrote:
On 02/03/2021 08:18, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
Ha ha ha...
* Has he fallen of the edge of the world yet?
* Brian



No. he is still waiting for the flood - he has built an Ark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeNOURXWCmM


The ark cost around 100 million dollars to build and is 510 feet long,
85 feet wide, and 51 feet high. It took a team of over a 1000 to build
over a period of 18 months. According to Ken, Noah and his sons build
the equivalent sized ark in around the same time, however, they didn't
also have to build the large restaurant and gift shop :)

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GB March 2nd 21 11:30 AM

OT: We are very lucky
 
On 02/03/2021 10:24, charles wrote:

I'm 80 - only housebound because of lockdown - but I try to get a 3+ mile
walk done most days.


You do your 3 mile walk inside the house?



GB March 2nd 21 11:36 AM

OT: We are very lucky
 
On 01/03/2021 22:44, Fredxx wrote:
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:


But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before
they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and
few survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of being
humans who can expect a long lifespan.


The perceived short life of adults was largely due to infant mortality
having a dominant effect of average life expectancy.


Thank you for debunking the myth.

It's interesting that a life expectancy table was compiled from old
Roman tombstones, and these showed much the same result. Lots of deaths
under age 15, but people who survived to 15 mostly lived to around 70.
Of course, the average was indeed 30, but that has been misinterpreted.


Andrew[_22_] March 2nd 21 11:39 AM

OT: We are very lucky
 
On 02/03/2021 10:54, Max Demian wrote:
On 02/03/2021 09:45, tim... wrote:
"Max Demian" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:

I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So
just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the
300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st;
their kids are the 300,002nd.)
But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died
before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back
further and few survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of
being humans who can expect a long lifespan.

Doesn't mean we are happy.

Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what then?


what do you mean by that?

what happens afterwards

or

what do you do with yourself doddering around like a 90 YO


Yeah; even being a healthy 95-year-old would hardly be worth it, from
what I've seen of people of that age and more.

My dad lived to 86 (I think) beyond 80 he was virtually house bound.
Is that a life?


That's rather soon. My father lived to 92, though, towards the end,
found it hard to go far due to heart problems (which are a family trait).

Fortunately, none of our family suffered from dementia


My mother had it and died at 87. I don't know if it's hereditary.

The ONS website has an interesting interactive graph showing the
percentage of the population over 65 and over 80 from 1996 to
2036.

Looks like we need a global pandemic to slow down or reverse
this trend. Oh dear.

GB March 2nd 21 11:40 AM

OT: We are very lucky
 
On 02/03/2021 06:51, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:
I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So
just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the
300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their
kids are the 300,002nd.)
But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before
they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and
few survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of being
humans who can expect a long lifespan.

Bill

some of us are even luckier and are on borrowed time...



Nature has, in reality, bestowed no greater blessing on man than the
shortness of life, Pliny remarks. The senses become dull, the limbs
torpid, the sight, the hearing, the legs, the teeth, and the organs of
digestion, all of them die before us He can think of only one person,
a musician who lived to 105, who had a pleasantly healthy old age.
(Pliny himself reached barely half that; hes thought to have died from
volcanic gases during the eruption of Mt Vesuvius, aged 56).

Andrew[_22_] March 2nd 21 11:42 AM

OT: We are very lucky
 
On 02/03/2021 06:51, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:
I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So
just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the
300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their
kids are the 300,002nd.)
But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before
they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and
few survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of being
humans who can expect a long lifespan.

Bill

some of us are even luckier and are on borrowed time...


And other peoples money :-(

Andrew[_22_] March 2nd 21 11:59 AM

OT: We are very lucky
 
On 02/03/2021 11:39, Andrew wrote:
On 02/03/2021 10:54, Max Demian wrote:
On 02/03/2021 09:45, tim... wrote:
"Max Demian" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:

I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So
just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the
300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st;
their kids are the 300,002nd.)
But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died
before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back
further and few survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of
being humans who can expect a long lifespan.

Doesn't mean we are happy.

Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what
then?

what do you mean by that?

what happens afterwards

or

what do you do with yourself doddering around like a 90 YO


Yeah; even being a healthy 95-year-old would hardly be worth it, from
what I've seen of people of that age and more.

My dad lived to 86 (I think) beyond 80 he was virtually house bound.
Is that a life?


That's rather soon. My father lived to 92, though, towards the end,
found it hard to go far due to heart problems (which are a family trait).

Fortunately, none of our family suffered from dementia


My mother had it and died at 87. I don't know if it's hereditary.

The ONS website has an interesting interactive graph showing the
percentage of the population over 65 and over 80 from 1996 to
2036.

Looks like we need a global pandemic to slow down or reverse
this trend. Oh dear.


Forgot the link

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ation/july2017


Jimmy Stewart ...[_2_] March 2nd 21 01:19 PM

OT: We are very lucky
 
On 02/03/2021 11:42, Andrew wrote:
On 02/03/2021 06:51, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:
I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So
just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the
300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st;
their kids are the 300,002nd.)
But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died
before they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back
further and few survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky?* We had a one in 43,000 chance of
being humans who can expect a long lifespan.

Bill

some of us are even luckier and are on borrowed time...


And other peoples money :-(

nope I owe nothing ...

Jimmy Stewart ...[_2_] March 2nd 21 01:20 PM

We are very lucky
 
On 02/03/2021 08:16, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
I see, well the problem is of course if we were born back then we would
think the short life span was normal and probably all go to church to pray
for our salvation when we die. Now however most people live long enough to
have got fed up with living and the thought of living forever in some
afterlife is not quite so attractive.
Brian

come and live and eat in Glasgow if you hanker for a short life......

Dave Plowman (News) March 2nd 21 02:14 PM

We are very lucky
 
In article ,
Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 02/03/2021 08:16, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
I see, well the problem is of course if we were born back then we
would think the short life span was normal and probably all go to
church to pray for our salvation when we die. Now however most people
live long enough to have got fed up with living and the thought of
living forever in some afterlife is not quite so attractive. Brian

come and live and eat in Glasgow if you hanker for a short life......


But living in Glasgow would make any life seem an eternity?

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Rod Speed March 2nd 21 07:08 PM

OT: We are very lucky
 


"tim..." wrote in message
...


"Max Demian" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:

I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just
now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th
generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are
the 300,002nd.)
But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before
they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and
few survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being
humans who can expect a long lifespan.


Doesn't mean we are happy.

Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what then?


what do you mean by that?

what happens afterwards

or

what do you do with yourself doddering around like a 90 YO

My dad lived to 86 (I think) beyond 80 he was virtually house bound.


Couple I know at that age arent.

Is that a life?


Corse it can be for some.

Fortunately, none of our family suffered from dementia


Yeah, just found out about another person I have known well
who is now so bad that he only recognises just one of his 3
sons anymore. Fortunately its the one who looks after him.


Rod Speed March 2nd 21 07:18 PM

OT: We are very lucky
 


"Max Demian" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 02/03/2021 09:45, tim... wrote:
"Max Demian" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:

I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So
just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th
generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are
the 300,002nd.)
But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before
they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and
few survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being
humans who can expect a long lifespan.

Doesn't mean we are happy.

Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what then?


what do you mean by that?

what happens afterwards

or

what do you do with yourself doddering around like a 90 YO


Yeah; even being a healthy 95-year-old would hardly be worth it, from what
I've seen of people of that age and more.


I know one who is still doing fine.

My dad lived to 86 (I think) beyond 80 he was virtually house bound. Is
that a life?


That's rather soon. My father lived to 92, though, towards the end, found
it hard to go far due to heart problems (which are a family trait).


Fortunately, none of our family suffered from dementia


My mother had it and died at 87. I don't know if it's hereditary.


Quite a bit of it is, but there is some evidence that some of it is
environmental too.


Fred March 2nd 21 07:29 PM

OT: We are very lucky
 


"Andrew" wrote in message
...
On 02/03/2021 10:54, Max Demian wrote:
On 02/03/2021 09:45, tim... wrote:
"Max Demian" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:

I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So
just now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the
300,000th generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their
kids are the 300,002nd.)
But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before
they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and
few survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being
humans who can expect a long lifespan.

Doesn't mean we are happy.

Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what
then?

what do you mean by that?

what happens afterwards

or

what do you do with yourself doddering around like a 90 YO


Yeah; even being a healthy 95-year-old would hardly be worth it, from
what I've seen of people of that age and more.

My dad lived to 86 (I think) beyond 80 he was virtually house bound. Is
that a life?


That's rather soon. My father lived to 92, though, towards the end, found
it hard to go far due to heart problems (which are a family trait).

Fortunately, none of our family suffered from dementia


My mother had it and died at 87. I don't know if it's hereditary.

The ONS website has an interesting interactive graph showing the
percentage of the population over 65 and over 80 from 1996 to
2036.

Looks like we need a global pandemic to slow down or reverse
this trend. Oh dear.


It remains to be seen how that works out, even the world wars didnt have
much effect.


Rod Speed March 2nd 21 07:33 PM

OT: We are very lucky
 


"GB" wrote in message
...
On 02/03/2021 06:51, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:
I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just
now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th
generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are
the 300,002nd.)
But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before
they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and
few survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being
humans who can expect a long lifespan.


some of us are even luckier and are on borrowed time...


Nature has, in reality, bestowed no greater blessing on man than the
shortness of life, Pliny remarks. The senses become dull, the limbs
torpid, the sight, the hearing, the legs, the teeth, and the organs of
digestion, all of them die before us


I havent got any of that. And in those days
medicine was much less effective than it is now,

He can think of only one person, a musician who lived to 105, who had a
pleasantly healthy old age.


But we know of quite a few who do now.

(Pliny himself reached barely half that; hes thought to have died from
volcanic gases during the eruption of Mt Vesuvius, aged 56).


So he is hardly an expert on life in old age.


Fred March 2nd 21 07:35 PM

OT: We are very lucky
 


"Andrew" wrote in message
...
On 02/03/2021 06:51, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 01/03/2021 18:22, williamwright wrote:
I had a thought this morning, as a lay there too idle to get up. So just
now I googled to get my facts straight. We represent the 300,000th
generation of humans (OK, I do. My kids are 300,001st; their kids are
the 300,002nd.)
But until only about seven generations ago almost everyone died before
they were fifty, and many died in their thirties. Go back further and
few survived beyond their twenties.
So aren't we incredibly lucky? We had a one in 43,000 chance of being
humans who can expect a long lifespan.


some of us are even luckier and are on borrowed time...


And other peoples money :-(


I'm not. I'm too lazy to do the paperwork for the state aged pension because
I wont be able to spend my vast accumulated wealth before I die.


Peeler[_4_] March 2nd 21 07:37 PM

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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile pest's latest troll**** unread

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trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

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trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

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Max Demian March 2nd 21 11:00 PM

OT: We are very lucky
 
On 02/03/2021 19:18, Rod Speed wrote:
"Max Demian" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 02/03/2021 09:45, tim... wrote:
"Max Demian" wrote in message


Based on my family history, I expect to live to 90 or so. But what
then?

what do you mean by that?

[...]
what do you do with yourself doddering around like a 90 YO


Yeah; even being a healthy 95-year-old would hardly be worth it, from
what I've seen of people of that age and more.


I know one who is still doing fine.


FSVO "doing fine". People say, "He's marvellous for his age."

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