https://www.dropbox.com/s/qalzoxwgat..._0265.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w77ftih1gt..._0264.JPG?dl=0

The new radio (Pioneer) had a little gold coloured socket for the DAB
aerial, but the existing DAB aerial has a plug that's incompatible. Does
anyone know what these connectors are called, and where I might buy
either a plug to fit the radio or an an adapter that will go from the
existing plug to the radio socket.

Help

williamwright wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qalzoxwgat..._0265.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w77ftih1gt..._0264.JPG?dl=0

The new radio (Pioneer) had a little gold coloured socket for the DAB
aerial, but the existing DAB aerial has a plug that's incompatible. Does
anyone know what these connectors are called, and where I might buy
either a plug to fit the radio or an an adapter that will go from the
existing plug to the radio socket.

Help


The one on the radio is an SMB

The one one the cable is an FME

EBay is where I go, Ive just checked plenty there.

Radio Man wrote:

The one on the radio is an SMB
The one one the cable is an FME

That's right, piccies here

https://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/what-do-the-aerial-connectors-look-like/

On 25/08/2020 15:39, Andy Burns wrote:
Radio Man wrote:

The one on the radio is an SMB The one one the cable is an FME

That's right, piccies here

https://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/what-do-the-aerial-connectors-look-like/


Thanks Radio Man and Andy. Necessary items now ordered.

Bill

On 25/08/2020 15:28, williamwright wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qalzoxwgat..._0265.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w77ftih1gt..._0264.JPG?dl=0

The new radio (Pioneer) had a little gold coloured socket for the DAB
aerial, but the existing DAB aerial has a plug that's incompatible. Does
anyone know what these connectors are called, and where I might buy
either a plug to fit the radio or an an adapter that will go from the
existing plug to the radio socket.

Help
pain in the arse pioneer have a male socket and not female like other radios

On 25/08/2020 15:28, williamwright wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qalzoxwgat..._0265.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w77ftih1gt..._0264.JPG?dl=0

The new radio (Pioneer) had a little gold coloured socket for the DAB
aerial, but the existing DAB aerial has a plug that's incompatible. Does
anyone know what these connectors are called, and where I might buy
either a plug to fit the radio or an an adapter that will go from the
existing plug to the radio socket.

Help

The aerial wire looks to have an FME connector on the end.
The photo of the radio isn't enough to see what sort of connector that
is. Does the list of specs in the radio manual tell you what it is called?

Once you know that, you just need to google FME to [whatever] converter
and you should be able to mate one up to the other.

Jim

Andy Burns wrote:
Radio Man wrote:

The one on the radio is an SMB
The one one the cable is an FME

That's right, piccies here

https://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/what-do-the-aerial-connectors-look-like/



Useful link. Some on there I didnt recognise by name.

Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 25/08/2020 15:28, williamwright wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qalzoxwgat..._0265.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w77ftih1gt..._0264.JPG?dl=0

The new radio (Pioneer) had a little gold coloured socket for the DAB
aerial, but the existing DAB aerial has a plug that's incompatible. Does
anyone know what these connectors are called, and where I might buy
either a plug to fit the radio or an an adapter that will go from the
existing plug to the radio socket.

Help
pain in the arse pioneer have a male socket and not female like other radios


You really didnt think about that post, did you.

;-)

Radio Man wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

https://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/what-do-the-aerial-connectors-look-like/

Useful link. Some on there I didnt recognise by name.

I was half-expecting bill's original to include a fakra type.

Andy Burns wrote:
Radio Man wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

https://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/what-do-the-aerial-connectors-look-like/

Useful link. Some on there I didnt recognise by name.

I was half-expecting bill's original to include a fakra type.


That is one Ive seen but couldnt name. The other is the Hirschmann.

In message , Radio Man
writes
Andy Burns wrote:
Radio Man wrote:

The one on the radio is an SMB
The one one the cable is an FME

That's right, piccies here

https://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/what-do-the-aerial-connectors-look-like/

Useful link. Some on there I didnt recognise by name.

Why on earth do they want to use what is a rather specialised connector?
It's not as though they are short of space on the back of the radio. A
tuppenny F would have been just as good.
--
Ian

On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 20:16:09 +0000, Radio Man wrote:

Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 25/08/2020 15:28, williamwright wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qalzoxwgat..._0265.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w77ftih1gt..._0264.JPG?dl=0

The new radio (Pioneer) had a little gold coloured socket for the DAB
aerial, but the existing DAB aerial has a plug that's incompatible.
Does anyone know what these connectors are called, and where I might
buy either a plug to fit the radio or an an adapter that will go from
the existing plug to the radio socket.

Help
pain in the arse pioneer have a male socket and not female like other
radios


You really didnt think about that post, did you.

;-)

Female is a receptacle in nature.

After serious thinking jon wrote :
Female is a receptacle in nature.

Some females would be offended by that description :-)

The old german one a friend had had an sma connection, but there do seem to
be many no doubt completely incompatible ones about, perhaps an adaptor?
Brian

--
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This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from...
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Blind user, so no pictures please
Note this Signature is meaningless.!
"williamwright" wrote in message
...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qalzoxwgat..._0265.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w77ftih1gt..._0264.JPG?dl=0

The new radio (Pioneer) had a little gold coloured socket for the DAB
aerial, but the existing DAB aerial has a plug that's incompatible. Does
anyone know what these connectors are called, and where I might buy either
a plug to fit the radio or an an adapter that will go from the existing
plug to the radio socket.

Help

On 25/08/2020 21:23, Andy Burns wrote:
Radio Man wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

https://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/what-do-the-aerial-connectors-look-like/

Useful link. Some on there I didnt recognise by name.

I was half-expecting bill's original to include a fakra type.

Is fakra swearing? My Greek Aunty used to say it.

Bill

On 25/08/2020 22:12, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Radio Man
writes
Andy Burns wrote:
Radio Man wrote:

The one on the radio is an SMB
The one one the cable is an FME

That's right, piccies here

https://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/what-do-the-aerial-connectors-look-like/

Useful link. Some on there I didnt recognise by name.

Why on earth do they want to use what is a rather specialised connector?
It's not as though they are short of space on the back of the radio. A
tuppenny F would have been just as good.

YES!

Bill

On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 06:14:33 +0100, Harry Bloomfield, Esq. wrote:

After serious thinking jon wrote :
Female is a receptacle in nature.

Some females would be offended by that description :-)

Not true females.

On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 11:22:10 +0100, Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) wrote:

The old german one a friend had had an sma connection, but there do seem
to be many no doubt completely incompatible ones about, perhaps an
adaptor?
Brian

Microdot connectors used on accelerometers and microphones are very
similar to SMA connectors.

On 25/08/2020 21:16, Radio Man wrote:
Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 25/08/2020 15:28, williamwright wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qalzoxwgat..._0265.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w77ftih1gt..._0264.JPG?dl=0

The new radio (Pioneer) had a little gold coloured socket for the DAB
aerial, but the existing DAB aerial has a plug that's incompatible. Does
anyone know what these connectors are called, and where I might buy
either a plug to fit the radio or an an adapter that will go from the
existing plug to the radio socket.

Help
pain in the arse pioneer have a male socket and not female like other radios


You really didnt think about that post, did you.

;-)



yes I did most home dab RXs have female SMA but pioneer and other jap
car equipment manufacturers have male SMA.....I sent for a splitter
cable and was annoyed when it arrived with female SMA then I found out
most car units have a male socket....so I was happy

On 26/08/2020 06:14, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
After serious thinking jon wrote :
Female is a receptacle in nature.

Some females would be offended by that description :-)
speshly TVs

On 25/08/2020 22:12, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Radio Man
writes
Andy Burns wrote:
Radio Man wrote:

The one on the radio is an SMB
The one one the cable is an FME

That's right, piccies here

https://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/what-do-the-aerial-connectors-look-like/

Useful link. Some on there I didnt recognise by name.

Why on earth do they want to use what is a rather specialised connector?
It's not as though they are short of space on the back of the radio. A
tuppenny F would have been just as good.
F connectors should stay on your satellite equipment....nowhere else

Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Radio Man
writes
Andy Burns wrote:
Radio Man wrote:

The one on the radio is an SMB
The one one the cable is an FME

That's right, piccies here

https://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/what-do-the-aerial-connectors-look-like/

Useful link. Some on there I didnt recognise by name.

Why on earth do they want to use what is a rather specialised connector?
It's not as though they are short of space on the back of the radio. A
tuppenny F would have been just as good.

F connectors, the cheap ones, use coax with a single solid centre
conductor. Single solid conductors are deprecated in mobile applications.

In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes
On 25/08/2020 22:12, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Radio Man
writes
Andy Burns wrote:
Radio Man wrote:

The one on the radio is an SMB
The one one the cable is an FME

That's right, piccies here

https://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/what-do-the-aerial-connectors-look-like/

Useful link. Some on there I didnt recognise by name.

Why on earth do they want to use what is a rather specialised
connector? It's not as though they are short of space on the back of
the radio. A tuppenny F would have been just as good.
F connectors should stay on your satellite equipment....nowhere else

Why's that, Jim? They are also the standard connector for cable TV
equipment (and have been from long before we ever had satellite). I
believe that they first became used on TV sets in the USA when they went
away from aerials with 300 ohm twin feeder. They are pretty good (and
very cheap) connectors.
--
Ian

In message , Radio Man
writes
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Radio Man
writes
Andy Burns wrote:
Radio Man wrote:

The one on the radio is an SMB
The one one the cable is an FME

That's right, piccies here

https://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/what-do-the-aerial-connectors-look-like/

Useful link. Some on there I didnt recognise by name.

Why on earth do they want to use what is a rather specialised connector?
It's not as though they are short of space on the back of the radio. A
tuppenny F would have been just as good.

F connectors, the cheap ones, use coax with a single solid centre
conductor. Single solid conductors are deprecated in mobile applications.

Why's that?
--
Ian

Ian Jackson wrote:

Radio Man wrote:

Single solid conductors are deprecated in mobile applications.

Why's that?

They snap when subjected to vibration

In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes
On 25/08/2020 22:12, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Radio Man
writes
Andy Burns wrote:
Radio Man wrote:

The one on the radio is an SMB
The one one the cable is an FME

That's right, piccies here

https://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/what-do-the-aerial-connectors-look-like/

Useful link. Some on there I didn‘t recognise by name.

Why on earth do they want to use what is a rather specialised
connector? It's not as though they are short of space on the back of
the radio. A tuppenny F would have been just as good.
F connectors should stay on your satellite equipment....nowhere else

Why's that, Jim? They are also the standard connector for cable TV
equipment (and have been from long before we ever had satellite). I
believe that they first became used on TV sets in the USA when they went
away from aerials with 300 ohm twin feeder. They are pretty good (and
very cheap) connectors.

Their great point is that they avoid the unsoldered Belling Lee connector.
--

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

In article , Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message , Radio Man
writes
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Radio Man
writes
Andy Burns wrote:
Radio Man wrote:

The one on the radio is an SMB The one one the cable is an FME

That's right, piccies here

https://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/what-do-the-aerial-connectors-look-like/

Useful link. Some on there I didn‘t recognise by name.

Why on earth do they want to use what is a rather specialised
connector? It's not as though they are short of space on the back of
the radio. A tuppenny F would have been just as good.

F connectors, the cheap ones, use coax with a single solid centre
conductor. Single solid conductors are deprecated in mobile applications.

Why's that?

a solid conductor is more prone to breaking than a multistranded one.
--

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

In message , Andy Burns
writes
Ian Jackson wrote:

Radio Man wrote:
Single solid conductors are deprecated in mobile applications.

Why's that?

They snap when subjected to vibration

If the level of vibration in your car is sufficient to snap coax cable,
maybe it's about time to think about getting a new one!
--
Ian

Ian Jackson wrote:

If the level of vibration in your car is sufficient to snap coax cable,
maybe it's about time to think about getting a new one!

Solid core cable isn't allowed on new-build boats for the same reason

On 26/08/2020 20:41, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes
On 25/08/2020 22:12, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Radio Man
Â* writes
Andy Burns wrote:
Radio Man wrote:

The one on the radio is an SMB
The one one the cable is an FME

That's right, piccies here

https://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/what-do-the-aerial-connectors-look-like/


Useful link. Some on there I didnt recognise by name.

Why on earth do they want to use what is a rather specialised
connector?Â* It's not as though they are short of space on the back of
the radio. AÂ* tuppenny F would have been just as good.
F connectors should stay on your satellite equipment....nowhere else

Why's that, Jim? They are also the standard connector for cable TV
equipment (and have been from long before we ever had satellite). I
believe that they first became used on TV sets in the USA when they went
away from aerials with 300 ohm twin feeder. They are pretty good (and
very cheap) connectors.
ok also on my Kenpro KP202 as well then...and the holy virgin....I
suppose using the coax inner as the centre pin is cool no soldering....I
take it back...

that's you told Ian....tee hee

On 27/08/2020 07:16, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 26/08/2020 20:41, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes
On 25/08/2020 22:12, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Radio Man
Â* writes
Andy Burns wrote:
Radio Man wrote:

The one on the radio is an SMB
The one one the cable is an FME

That's right, piccies here

https://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/what-do-the-aerial-connectors-look-like/


Useful link. Some on there I didnt recognise by name.

Why on earth do they want to use what is a rather specialised
connector?Â* It's not as though they are short of space on the back
of the radio. AÂ* tuppenny F would have been just as good.
F connectors should stay on your satellite equipment....nowhere else

Why's that, Jim? They are also the standard connector for cable TV
equipment (and have been from long before we ever had satellite). I
believe that they first became used on TV sets in the USA when they
went away from aerials with 300 ohm twin feeder. They are pretty good
(and very cheap) connectors.
ok also on my Kenpro KP202Â* as well then...and the holy virgin....I
suppose using the coax inner as the centre pin is cool no soldering....I
take it back...
no I don't the vibration on my KP202 caused the sold centre core to
snap....tee hee

In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes
that's you told Ian....tee hee

Tiny, specialised connectors make sense when you're using small-diameter
cable. F-connectors are ideal for situations where the inner conductor
is the pin of the male - and you obviously can't do this with miniature
cable. If you ARE using miniature cable, you'll need to use a different
type of F-connector (probably more expensive) - one which has its own
pin (and, of course, the cable can be multistrand).
--
Ian

On 27/08/2020 08:32, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes
that's you told Ian....tee hee

Tiny, specialised connectors make sense when you're using small-diameter
cable. F-connectors are ideal for situations where the inner conductor
is the pin of the male - and you obviously can't do this with miniature
cable. If you ARE using miniature cable, you'll need to use a different
type of F-connector (probably more expensive) - one which has its own
pin (and, of course, the cable can be multistrand).
nice comeback

In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes
On 27/08/2020 08:32, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes
that's you told Ian....tee hee

Tiny, specialised connectors make sense when you're using
small-diameter cable. F-connectors are ideal for situations where the
inner conductor is the pin of the male - and you obviously can't do
this with miniature cable. If you ARE using miniature cable, you'll
need to use a different type of F-connector (probably more expensive)
- one which has its own pin (and, of course, the cable can be multistrand).

nice comeback

I've actually got some jumpers using miniature cable (RG-179?) and
F-connectors. You have to solder the inner into the pin, and crimp* the
outer.
*If the dielectric is high-temperature, you can also solder the
folded-back outer braid.
--
Ian

On 27/08/2020 10:34, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes
On 27/08/2020 08:32, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes
that's you told Ian....tee hee

Tiny, specialised connectors make sense when you're using
small-diameterÂ* cable. F-connectors are ideal for situations where
the inner conductorÂ* is the pin of the male - and you obviously can't
do this with miniatureÂ* cable. If you ARE using miniature cable,
you'll need to use a differentÂ* type of F-connector (probably more
expensive) - one which has its ownÂ* pin (and, of course, the cable
can be multistrand).

nice comeback

I've actually got some jumpers using miniature cable (RG-179?) and
F-connectors. You have to solder the inner into the pin, and crimp* the
outer.
*If the dielectric is high-temperature, you can also solder the
folded-back outer braid.
oh right

On 26/08/2020 21:35, Andy Burns wrote:
Ian Jackson wrote:

If the level of vibration in your car is sufficient to snap coax
cable, maybe it's about time to think about getting a new one!

Solid core cable isn't allowed on new-build boats for the same reason

And lead-free solder is banned on critical aircraft wiring

On 26/08/2020 17:46, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 25/08/2020 21:16, Radio Man wrote:
Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 25/08/2020 15:28, williamwright wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qalzoxwgat..._0265.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w77ftih1gt..._0264.JPG?dl=0

The new radio (Pioneer) had a little gold coloured socket for the DAB
aerial, but the existing DAB aerial has a plug that's incompatible.
Does
anyone know what these connectors are called, and where I might buy
either a plug to fit the radio or an an adapter that will go from the
existing plug to the radio socket.

Help
pain in the arse pioneer have a male socket and not female like other
radios


You really didnt think about that post, did you.

;-)



yes I did most home dab RXs have female SMA but pioneer and other jap
car equipment manufacturers have male SMA.....I sent for a splitter
cable and was annoyed when it arrived with female SMA then I found out
most car units have a male socket....so I was happy

My Onkyo CR515DAB mini hifi had a male belling lee? FM socket which
was a nuisance when I first bought it and tried to set it up at 7PM
one evening.

On 28/08/2020 14:55, Andrew wrote:
On 26/08/2020 21:35, Andy Burns wrote:
Ian Jackson wrote:

If the level of vibration in your car is sufficient to snap coax
cable, maybe it's about time to think about getting a new one!

Solid core cable isn't allowed on new-build boats for the same reason

And lead-free solder is banned on critical aircraft wiring
should be totally banned then there would be less chinky junk to throw
away .....