The screwfix website really wants my mobile number when I place an
order: phone number is a required field on the order page, and SMS is
the only way to receive notification when the order is ready for
collection.

Why do Screfix want my mobile number so badly? They send me an order
confirmation email, so why can't they send me another email when the
order is ready for collection? Surely most people can receive emails
on their phone nowadays.

Toolstation use email, so it's not like it can't be done that way.

On 27/06/2020 11:46, Caecilius wrote:
The screwfix website really wants my mobile number when I place an
order: phone number is a required field on the order page, and SMS is
the only way to receive notification when the order is ready for
collection.

Why do Screfix want my mobile number so badly? They send me an order
confirmation email, so why can't they send me another email when the
order is ready for collection? Surely most people can receive emails
on their phone nowadays.

Toolstation use email, so it's not like it can't be done that way.


I can't receive texts on my BT Relate 80 either :-(

On 27/06/2020 11:46, Caecilius wrote:
The screwfix website really wants my mobile number when I place an
order: phone number is a required field on the order page, and SMS is
the only way to receive notification when the order is ready for
collection.

Why do Screfix want my mobile number so badly? They send me an order
confirmation email, so why can't they send me another email when the
order is ready for collection? Surely most people can receive emails
on their phone nowadays.

Toolstation use email, so it's not like it can't be done that way.


Possible because so many tradesmen using Screwfix seem to do everything
on their phone including during these times sitting in their vans in the
car park and ordering for click and collect.

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On Saturday, 27 June 2020 12:02:32 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:
I can't receive texts on my BT Relate 80 either :-(

Stop showing off because your phone's got last number redial and my Tele 782 hasn't :-)

Owain

On 27/06/2020 11:46, Caecilius wrote:
The screwfix website really wants my mobile number when I place an
order: phone number is a required field on the order page, and SMS is
the only way to receive notification when the order is ready for
collection.

Why do Screfix want my mobile number so badly? They send me an order
confirmation email, so why can't they send me another email when the
order is ready for collection? Surely most people can receive emails
on their phone nowadays.

Toolstation use email, so it's not like it can't be done that way.

NOPE i USE A NOKIA 1100 AND HATE SMART PHONES ALTHOUGH i HAVE LOADS OF
THEM...

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On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 12:02:27 +0100, Andrew wrote:

I can't receive texts on my BT Relate 80 either :-(

Er, have you tried sending a text to the landline number that that
phone is connected to?

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On 27/06/2020 12:47, alan_m wrote:
On 27/06/2020 11:46, Caecilius wrote:
The screwfix website really wants my mobile number when I place an
order: phone number is a required field on the order page, and SMS is
the only way to receive notification when the order is ready for
collection.

Why do Screfix want my mobile number so badly?Â* They send me an order
confirmation email, so why can't they send me another email when the
order is ready for collection?Â* Surely most people can receive emails
on their phone nowadays.

Toolstation use email, so it's not like it can't be done that way.


Possible because so many tradesmen using Screwfix seem to do everything
on their phone including during these times sitting in their vans in the
car park and ordering for click and collect.

And SMS is quick and convenient. My "exercise" watch will display
incoming SMS as well as email, but SMS is quicker to read and identify.

On Saturday, 27 June 2020 11:46:10 UTC+1, Caecilius wrote:

The screwfix website really wants my mobile number when I place an
order: phone number is a required field on the order page, and SMS is
the only way to receive notification when the order is ready for
collection.

Why do Screfix want my mobile number so badly? They send me an order
confirmation email, so why can't they send me another email when the
order is ready for collection? Surely most people can receive emails
on their phone nowadays.

Toolstation use email, so it's not like it can't be done that way.

I had the same thing with another company yesterday. This data grab obsession is just weird.

On 27/06/2020 15:27, wrote:
On Saturday, 27 June 2020 11:46:10 UTC+1, Caecilius wrote:

The screwfix website really wants my mobile number when I place an
order: phone number is a required field on the order page, and SMS is
the only way to receive notification when the order is ready for
collection.

Why do Screfix want my mobile number so badly? They send me an order
confirmation email, so why can't they send me another email when the
order is ready for collection? Surely most people can receive emails
on their phone nowadays.

Toolstation use email, so it's not like it can't be done that way.

I had the same thing with another company yesterday. This data grab obsession is just weird.

No more weird than the associated paranoia.

On 27/06/2020 11:46, Caecilius wrote:
The screwfix website really wants my mobile number when I place an
order: phone number is a required field on the order page, and SMS is
the only way to receive notification when the order is ready for
collection.

Why do Screfix want my mobile number so badly? They send me an order
confirmation email, so why can't they send me another email when the
order is ready for collection? Surely most people can receive emails
on their phone nowadays.

Toolstation use email, so it's not like it can't be done that way.


I suspect they feel SMS is more reliable and not subject to SPAM filters.

Dave

On 27/06/2020 15:27, wrote:

I had the same thing with another company yesterday. This data grab obsession is just weird.


Sometimes useful.
When having items delivered, especially bulky items, the delivery driver
will often send a text to say that they are 10/15 minutes away. Possibly
an automated service based on his position and pre-planned delivery route.


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On 27/06/2020 13:13, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 12:02:27 +0100, Andrew wrote:

I can't receive texts on my BT Relate 80 either :-(

Er, have you tried sending a text to the landline number that that
phone is connected to?


I have.


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David Wade wrote:
On 27/06/2020 11:46, Caecilius wrote:
The screwfix website really wants my mobile number when I place an
order: phone number is a required field on the order page, and SMS is
the only way to receive notification when the order is ready for
collection.

Why do Screfix want my mobile number so badly? They send me an order
confirmation email, so why can't they send me another email when the
order is ready for collection? Surely most people can receive emails
on their phone nowadays.

Toolstation use email, so it's not like it can't be done that way.


I suspect they feel SMS is more reliable and not subject to SPAM filters.

Yes, but I wish they would accept that [some] landlines can accept
SMS, our Gigaset phones do and I'm *much* more likely to notice and
read an SMS sent to the landline than one sent to my mobile.

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On Saturday, 27 June 2020 18:48:05 UTC+1, Chris Green wrote:
David Wade wrote:
On 27/06/2020 11:46, Caecilius wrote:

The screwfix website really wants my mobile number when I place an
order: phone number is a required field on the order page, and SMS is
the only way to receive notification when the order is ready for
collection.

Why do Screfix want my mobile number so badly? They send me an order
confirmation email, so why can't they send me another email when the
order is ready for collection? Surely most people can receive emails
on their phone nowadays.

Toolstation use email, so it's not like it can't be done that way.


I suspect they feel SMS is more reliable and not subject to SPAM filters.

Yes, but I wish they would accept that [some] landlines can accept
SMS, our Gigaset phones do and I'm *much* more likely to notice and
read an SMS sent to the landline than one sent to my mobile.

Virgin landlines supposedly accept texts. But IMLE they garble them incomprehensibly.

On Saturday, 27 June 2020 15:34:52 UTC+1, Richard wrote:
On 27/06/2020 15:27, tabbypurr wrote:
On Saturday, 27 June 2020 11:46:10 UTC+1, Caecilius wrote:

The screwfix website really wants my mobile number when I place an
order: phone number is a required field on the order page, and SMS is
the only way to receive notification when the order is ready for
collection.

Why do Screfix want my mobile number so badly? They send me an order
confirmation email, so why can't they send me another email when the
order is ready for collection? Surely most people can receive emails
on their phone nowadays.

Toolstation use email, so it's not like it can't be done that way.

I had the same thing with another company yesterday. This data grab obsession is just weird.

No more weird than the associated paranoia.

Ya know, when you look at all the problems caused by people having other people's data, (it's a multibillion pound per year industry) it's quite naive to misinterpret saying no as paranoia.

On 27/06/2020 19:01, wrote:
On Saturday, 27 June 2020 15:34:52 UTC+1, Richard wrote:
On 27/06/2020 15:27, tabbypurr wrote:
On Saturday, 27 June 2020 11:46:10 UTC+1, Caecilius wrote:

The screwfix website really wants my mobile number when I place an
order: phone number is a required field on the order page, and SMS is
the only way to receive notification when the order is ready for
collection.

Why do Screfix want my mobile number so badly? They send me an order
confirmation email, so why can't they send me another email when the
order is ready for collection? Surely most people can receive emails
on their phone nowadays.

Toolstation use email, so it's not like it can't be done that way.

I had the same thing with another company yesterday. This data grab obsession is just weird.

No more weird than the associated paranoia.

Ya know, when you look at all the problems caused by people having other people's data, (it's a multibillion pound per year industry) it's quite naive to misinterpret saying no as paranoia.


Could've saved a few keystrokes by stopping before "having".

On 27/06/2020 13:13, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 12:02:27 +0100, Andrew wrote:

I can't receive texts on my BT Relate 80 either :-(

Er, have you tried sending a text to the landline number that that
phone is connected to?


What with ?. I don't have a mobile :-)

On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 13:10:56 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote:

On 27/06/2020 11:46, Caecilius wrote:
The screwfix website really wants my mobile number when I place an
order: phone number is a required field on the order page, and SMS
is the only way to receive notification when the order is ready for
collection.

Why do Screfix want my mobile number so badly? They send me an
order confirmation email, so why can't they send me another email
when the order is ready for collection? Surely most people can
receive emails on their phone nowadays.

Toolstation use email, so it's not like it can't be done that way.

NOPE i USE A NOKIA 1100 AND HATE SMART PHONES ALTHOUGH i HAVE LOADS
OF THEM...

If you bought a modern smartphone you could get a Grindr account and
leave the rest of us alone.

On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 11:46:06 +0100, Caecilius
wrote:

The screwfix website really wants my mobile number when I place an
order: phone number is a required field on the order page, and SMS is
the only way to receive notification when the order is ready for
collection.

Why do Screfix want my mobile number so badly? They send me an order
confirmation email, so why can't they send me another email when the
order is ready for collection? Surely most people can receive emails
on their phone nowadays.

Toolstation use email, so it's not like it can't be done that way.


I wonder if it's related to trying to find the tradesperson who placed
the order to deliver to on a site?

On 27/06/2020 11:46, Caecilius wrote:
The screwfix website really wants my mobile number when I place an
order: phone number is a required field on the order page, and SMS is
the only way to receive notification when the order is ready for
collection.

Why do Screfix want my mobile number so badly? They send me an order
confirmation email, so why can't they send me another email when the
order is ready for collection? Surely most people can receive emails
on their phone nowadays.

They can, but only if they have setup email on their phone. SMS will
work out of the box. Since they have probably made it part of their
social distancing mechanism for click and collect orders it makes more
sense than relying on the email address.



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On 27/06/2020 19:47, Andrew wrote:
On 27/06/2020 13:13, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 12:02:27 +0100, Andrew wrote:

I can't receive texts on my BT Relate 80 either :-(

Er, have you tried sending a text to the landline number that that
phone is connected to?


What with ?. I don't have a mobile :-)

email me your number, and I will text it...

(you will get an automated call form BT that will read out the text
using a voice synth)


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On Saturday, 27 June 2020 20:27:11 UTC+1, Gordon Bennet wrote:
If you bought a modern smartphone you could get a Grindr account and
leave the rest of us alone.

Screwfix dating, now there's an idea.

Even if he's useless in bed he can fix the wobbly shelf after breakfast.

Owain

John Rumm wrote:
On 27/06/2020 19:47, Andrew wrote:
On 27/06/2020 13:13, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 12:02:27 +0100, Andrew wrote:

I can't receive texts on my BT Relate 80 either :-(

Er, have you tried sending a text to the landline number that that
phone is connected to?


What with ?. I don't have a mobile :-)

email me your number, and I will text it...

(you will get an automated call form BT that will read out the text
using a voice synth)

Not necssarily, our phone can (and does) receive SMS messages as text.
I'm not quite sure how it's decided to use text-to-voice or to send
the SMS as text though.

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·

Chris Green wrote:

John Rumm wrote:

Andrew wrote:

Dave Liquorice wrote:

Andrew wrote:

I can't receive texts on my BT Relate 80 either :-(

Er, have you tried sending a text to the landline number that that
phone is connected to?

What with ?. I don't have a mobile :-)

email me your number, and I will text it...
(you will get an automated call form BT that will read out the text
using a voice synth)

Not necssarily, our phone can (and does) receive SMS messages as text.

I don't think Andrew's will :-P
https://www.britishtelephones.com/rel80.htm

I'm not quite sure how it's decided to use text-to-voice or to send
the SMS as text though.

The line must have CLI display, then I think an SMS capable POTS phone
makes a call to BT's SMSC number (17094009 or 0800587529) and that
enables SMS delivery, rather than spoken delivery for the line.

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On Saturday, 27 June 2020 20:27:11 UTC+1, Gordon Bennet wrote:
If you bought a modern smartphone you could get a Grindr account and
leave the rest of us alone.

Screwfix dating, now there's an idea.

And works well with the name if you are a yank.

Even if he's useless in bed he can fix the wobbly shelf after breakfast.

On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 07:46:03 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

Maybe its a security issue, the old 200 ways to verify you are you paranoia
which google seem to be fuelling these days, rather ironic given how they
make their money.

Brian

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The screwfix website really wants my mobile number when I place an
order: phone number is a required field on the order page, and SMS is
the only way to receive notification when the order is ready for
collection.

Why do Screfix want my mobile number so badly? They send me an order
confirmation email, so why can't they send me another email when the
order is ready for collection? Surely most people can receive emails
on their phone nowadays.

Toolstation use email, so it's not like it can't be done that way.

Yes I mean I only use one email address on the phone or it would be pinging
away all bloody day.
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On 27/06/2020 11:46, Caecilius wrote:
The screwfix website really wants my mobile number when I place an
order: phone number is a required field on the order page, and SMS is
the only way to receive notification when the order is ready for
collection.

Why do Screfix want my mobile number so badly? They send me an order
confirmation email, so why can't they send me another email when the
order is ready for collection? Surely most people can receive emails
on their phone nowadays.

They can, but only if they have setup email on their phone. SMS will work
out of the box. Since they have probably made it part of their social
distancing mechanism for click and collect orders it makes more sense than
relying on the email address.



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On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 22:39:06 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

I'm not quite sure how it's decided to use text-to-voice or to
send
the SMS as text though.

The line must have CLI display, then I think an SMS capable POTS phone
makes a call to BT's SMSC number (17094009 or 0800587529) and that
enables SMS delivery, rather than spoken delivery for the line.

IIRC from when the CLI was brought in for POTS the abilty to send a
message is part of the protocol. Though I didn't think there was a
back channel for the receiving end to tell the sending end if it
could handle that part of the protocol. Early, stand alone, CLI
displays couldn't handle messages, only the number and date/time. I
have a early display unit (CD50) and SMS's sent to the landline
number are read out not shown on the display...

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On Saturday, 27 June 2020 19:34:26 UTC+1, Richard wrote:
On 27/06/2020 19:01, tabbypurr wrote:
On Saturday, 27 June 2020 15:34:52 UTC+1, Richard wrote:
On 27/06/2020 15:27, tabbypurr wrote:
On Saturday, 27 June 2020 11:46:10 UTC+1, Caecilius wrote:

The screwfix website really wants my mobile number when I place an
order: phone number is a required field on the order page, and SMS is
the only way to receive notification when the order is ready for
collection.

Why do Screfix want my mobile number so badly? They send me an order
confirmation email, so why can't they send me another email when the
order is ready for collection? Surely most people can receive emails
on their phone nowadays.

Toolstation use email, so it's not like it can't be done that way.

I had the same thing with another company yesterday. This data grab obsession is just weird.

No more weird than the associated paranoia.

Ya know, when you look at all the problems caused by people having other people's data, (it's a multibillion pound per year industry) it's quite naive to misinterpret saying no as paranoia.


Could've saved a few keystrokes by stopping before "having".

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