Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours. Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase, Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)

On 07/05/2020 08:21, polygonum_on_google wrote:
Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours. Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase, Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)


Sunflower yellow.

--

On Thursday, 7 May 2020 08:21:47 UTC+1, polygonum_on_google wrote:

Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours. Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

well that rules out almost everything! Paint, oil & varnish remain in any colour or colourless, pick your take.


Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase, Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)


Do yourself one favour & avoid sunflower yellow. DAMHIKT!


NT

On Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:49:44 UTC+1, wrote:
On Thursday, 7 May 2020 08:21:47 UTC+1, polygonum_on_google wrote:

Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours. Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

well that rules out almost everything! Paint, oil & varnish remain in any colour or colourless, pick your take.


Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase, Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)


Do yourself one favour & avoid sunflower yellow. DAMHIKT!


Sunflower Yellow is a lovely colour. For sunflowers. :-)

Is decking oil better than varnish? What about the things like No Nonsense Anti-Slip Decking Stain? Gets some excellent reviews - then two awful ones.

On 07/05/2020 13:08, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:49:44 UTC+1, wrote:
On Thursday, 7 May 2020 08:21:47 UTC+1, polygonum_on_google wrote:

Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours. Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

well that rules out almost everything! Paint, oil & varnish remain in any colour or colourless, pick your take.


Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase, Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)


Do yourself one favour & avoid sunflower yellow. DAMHIKT!


Sunflower Yellow is a lovely colour. For sunflowers. :-)

Is decking oil better than varnish? What about the things like No Nonsense Anti-Slip Decking Stain? Gets some excellent reviews - then two awful ones.




Put some castrol motor oil on it. Then you can slip up and
break a few bones.

On 07/05/2020 13:34, GB wrote:
On 07/05/2020 13:08, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:49:44 UTC+1, Â* wrote:
On Thursday, 7 May 2020 08:21:47 UTC+1, polygonum_on_googleÂ* wrote:

Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to
make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel.
The sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So
mainly a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours.
Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

well that rules out almost everything! Paint, oil & varnish remain in
any colour or colourless, pick your take.


Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes,
Homebase, Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)


Do yourself one favour & avoid sunflower yellow. DAMHIKT!


Sunflower Yellow is a lovely colour. For sunflowers. :-)

Is decking oil better than varnish? What about the things like No
Nonsense Anti-Slip Decking Stain? Gets some excellent reviews - then
two awful ones.




Put some castrol motor oil on it. Then you can slip up and
break a few bones.



He can do that without putting anything slippery on it. The
usual winter accumulation of algae and slime will turn it
into a skating rink.

Diesel oil mixed with castrol, and then start a bonfire on it
is the best treatment.

On Thursday, 7 May 2020 13:08:58 UTC+1, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:49:44 UTC+1, tabbypurr wrote:
On Thursday, 7 May 2020 08:21:47 UTC+1, polygonum_on_google wrote:

Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours. Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

well that rules out almost everything! Paint, oil & varnish remain in any colour or colourless, pick your take.


Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase, Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)


Do yourself one favour & avoid sunflower yellow. DAMHIKT!


Sunflower Yellow is a lovely colour. For sunflowers. :-)

Is decking oil better than varnish? What about the things like No Nonsense Anti-Slip Decking Stain? Gets some excellent reviews - then two awful ones.

I won't buy anything 'no nonsense'. IME it's nothing but nonsense.

Oil vs varnish: 2 very different finishes. Just pick what you want. For an oil finish, engine oil can be cheap, but used oil darkens the wood a good bit.

Stain & finishes that have slip or not are 2 separate things. I would almost never suggest using coloured varnishes indoors, they chip & look awful. This process will happen far more outdoors.


NT

On 07/05/2020 08:21, polygonum_on_google wrote:
Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours. Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase, Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)

The Medway handyman who used to post on here always recommended using
decking oil. He apparently built lots of decks. I have a small decking
area and followed his advice and have been happy with the result. The
oil comes in various finishes but needs renewing annually in my experience.
John M

On Thursday, 7 May 2020 23:43:40 UTC+1, John Miller wrote:
On 07/05/2020 08:21, polygonum_on_google wrote:
Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours. Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase, Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)

The Medway handyman who used to post on here always recommended using
decking oil. He apparently built lots of decks. I have a small decking
area and followed his advice and have been happy with the result. The
oil comes in various finishes but needs renewing annually in my experience.
John M

Thank you. That is helpful.

On 07/05/2020 08:21, polygonum_on_google wrote:
Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours. Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase, Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)

Clear decking oil. Not stain. If it says on the can that you can wash
brushes in water, don't buy it!

--
Dave
The Medway Handyman

On 07/05/2020 13:08, polygonum_on_google wrote:


Is decking oil better than varnish? What about the things like No Nonsense Anti-Slip Decking Stain? Gets some excellent reviews - then two awful ones.


Decking oil soaks into the timber, everything else forms a top coating.
You can re coat oil just by cleaning it & slapping on another coat.

I often think the awful reviews are from idiots who screwed up.

--
Dave
The Medway Handyman

On 07/05/2020 14:04, Andrew wrote:


Put some castrol motor oil on it. Then you can slip up and
break a few bones.



He can do that without putting anything slippery on it. The
usual winter accumulation of algae and slime will turn it
into a skating rink.

Dexking isn't slippery if kept reasonably clean. I've built hundreds,
never heard of anyone slipping over.

Diesel oil mixed with castrol, and then start a bonfire on it
is the best treatment.


--
Dave
The Medway Handyman

On 07/05/2020 08:21, polygonum_on_google wrote:

Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to
make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The
sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly
a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours.
Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase,
Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)

If you go for an oil finish[1], then its easy to top up again, but you
will probably need to give it another coat each year to look good.

Film finishes (e.g. varnishes look good and can last a few years, but
are harder to touch in if they crack or fail - so you need the
discipline to re-coat *before* they show signs of needing it.

The other option is a spirit based wood preservative which includes a
oil/wax protection. Those give a flat colour look, but also impart some
water repelling properties. (I tried the Barrattine wood protective
treatment (Toolstation) last year on some outside furniture. Been quite
impressed with that - it all held up nicely though the winter, and is
still water repellent)


[1] and you need a proper oil designed for wood finishing that includes
driers, and UV protection included. That way it cures properly into a
water resistance treatment.


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John.

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On Saturday, 9 May 2020 14:39:26 UTC+1, TMH wrote:
On 07/05/2020 08:21, polygonum_on_google wrote:
Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours. Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase, Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)

Clear decking oil. Not stain. If it says on the can that you can wash
brushes in water, don't buy it!

Thank you Dave.

I have reached that point - nice to have it confirmed.

Any suggestions as to the best value? Probably only need 2.5L for now.

On Saturday, 9 May 2020 19:21:07 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 07/05/2020 08:21, polygonum_on_google wrote:

Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to
make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The
sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly
a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours.
Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase,
Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)

If you go for an oil finish[1], then its easy to top up again, but you
will probably need to give it another coat each year to look good.

Film finishes (e.g. varnishes look good and can last a few years, but
are harder to touch in if they crack or fail - so you need the
discipline to re-coat *before* they show signs of needing it.

The other option is a spirit based wood preservative which includes a
oil/wax protection. Those give a flat colour look, but also impart some
water repelling properties. (I tried the Barrattine wood protective
treatment (Toolstation) last year on some outside furniture. Been quite
impressed with that - it all held up nicely though the winter, and is
still water repellent)


[1] and you need a proper oil designed for wood finishing that includes
driers, and UV protection included. That way it cures properly into a
water resistance treatment.


Dratted Toolstation appear to have almost nothing available for delivery. And the nearest branch is too far away to be viable.

On 09/05/2020 19:56, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Saturday, 9 May 2020 19:21:07 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 07/05/2020 08:21, polygonum_on_google wrote:

Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to
make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The
sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly
a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours.
Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase,
Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)

If you go for an oil finish[1], then its easy to top up again, but you
will probably need to give it another coat each year to look good.

Film finishes (e.g. varnishes look good and can last a few years, but
are harder to touch in if they crack or fail - so you need the
discipline to re-coat *before* they show signs of needing it.

The other option is a spirit based wood preservative which includes a
oil/wax protection. Those give a flat colour look, but also impart some
water repelling properties. (I tried the Barrattine wood protective
treatment (Toolstation) last year on some outside furniture. Been quite
impressed with that - it all held up nicely though the winter, and is
still water repellent)


[1] and you need a proper oil designed for wood finishing that includes
driers, and UV protection included. That way it cures properly into a
water resistance treatment.


Dratted Toolstation appear to have almost nothing available for delivery. And the nearest branch is too far away to be viable.

How about:

https://www.wood-finishes-direct.com...tive-treatment


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John.

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On 09/05/2020 14:43, TMH wrote:
On 07/05/2020 14:04, Andrew wrote:


Put some castrol motor oil on it. Then you can slip up and
break a few bones.



He can do that without putting anything slippery on it. The
usual winter accumulation of algae and slime will turn it
into a skating rink.

Dexking isn't slippery if kept reasonably clean.Â* I've built hundreds,
never heard of anyone slipping over.

Diesel oil mixed with castrol, and then start a bonfire on it
is the best treatment.



My neighbour has decking, installed by the previous owner in
2014. It faces south and after the winter rain and storms a fence
panel blew out along the boundary line, plus some panels on her
other boundary.

I walked across this decking to speak to the guy who was
replacing the far boundary panels in January, and it was
like a skating rink. She doesn't bother with gardening etc
so the surface of the decking has never been cleaned or
treated.

Most people seem to acknowledge that timber decking gets
slippery if it is not constantly cleaned, and is dangerous
for older people.

Andrew wrote:

On 09/05/2020 14:43, TMH wrote:
On 07/05/2020 14:04, Andrew wrote:


Put some castrol motor oil on it. Then you can slip up and
break a few bones.



He can do that without putting anything slippery on it. The
usual winter accumulation of algae and slime will turn it
into a skating rink.

Dexking isn't slippery if kept reasonably clean. I've built hundreds,
never heard of anyone slipping over.

Diesel oil mixed with castrol, and then start a bonfire on it
is the best treatment.



My neighbour has decking, installed by the previous owner in
2014. It faces south and after the winter rain and storms a fence
panel blew out along the boundary line, plus some panels on her
other boundary.

I walked across this decking to speak to the guy who was
replacing the far boundary panels in January, and it was
like a skating rink. She doesn't bother with gardening etc
so the surface of the decking has never been cleaned or
treated.

Most people seem to acknowledge that timber decking gets
slippery if it is not constantly cleaned, and is dangerous
for older people.

Outdoor walkways built by organisations aware of public liabliity tend
to have chicken netting nailed to them. Very effective, if a little
lacking aesthetically.


--

Roger Hayter

On Sunday, 10 May 2020 00:06:19 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 09/05/2020 19:56, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Saturday, 9 May 2020 19:21:07 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 07/05/2020 08:21, polygonum_on_google wrote:

Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to
make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The
sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly
a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours.
Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase,
Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)

If you go for an oil finish[1], then its easy to top up again, but you
will probably need to give it another coat each year to look good.

Film finishes (e.g. varnishes look good and can last a few years, but
are harder to touch in if they crack or fail - so you need the
discipline to re-coat *before* they show signs of needing it.

The other option is a spirit based wood preservative which includes a
oil/wax protection. Those give a flat colour look, but also impart some
water repelling properties. (I tried the Barrattine wood protective
treatment (Toolstation) last year on some outside furniture. Been quite
impressed with that - it all held up nicely though the winter, and is
still water repellent)


[1] and you need a proper oil designed for wood finishing that includes
driers, and UV protection included. That way it cures properly into a
water resistance treatment.


Dratted Toolstation appear to have almost nothing available for delivery. And the nearest branch is too far away to be viable.

How about:

https://www.wood-finishes-direct.com...tive-treatment



They have a minimum £100 order. :-(

On 11/05/2020 09:30, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Sunday, 10 May 2020 00:06:19 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 09/05/2020 19:56, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Saturday, 9 May 2020 19:21:07 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 07/05/2020 08:21, polygonum_on_google wrote:

Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to
make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The
sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly
a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours.
Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase,
Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)

If you go for an oil finish[1], then its easy to top up again, but you
will probably need to give it another coat each year to look good.

Film finishes (e.g. varnishes look good and can last a few years, but
are harder to touch in if they crack or fail - so you need the
discipline to re-coat *before* they show signs of needing it.

The other option is a spirit based wood preservative which includes a
oil/wax protection. Those give a flat colour look, but also impart some
water repelling properties. (I tried the Barrattine wood protective
treatment (Toolstation) last year on some outside furniture. Been quite
impressed with that - it all held up nicely though the winter, and is
still water repellent)


[1] and you need a proper oil designed for wood finishing that includes
driers, and UV protection included. That way it cures properly into a
water resistance treatment.


Dratted Toolstation appear to have almost nothing available for delivery. And the nearest branch is too far away to be viable.

How about:

https://www.wood-finishes-direct.com...tive-treatment



They have a minimum £100 order. :-(

Google finds others:

https://www.earlswoodglc.co.uk/paint...atment-5l.html

https://www.deckingstain.co.uk/shop/...t-5-litre.html

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nourish-Pro.../dp/B06X971QLY



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John.

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On Monday, 11 May 2020 16:10:10 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 11/05/2020 09:30, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Sunday, 10 May 2020 00:06:19 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 09/05/2020 19:56, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Saturday, 9 May 2020 19:21:07 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 07/05/2020 08:21, polygonum_on_google wrote:

Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to
make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The
sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly
a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours..
Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase,
Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)

If you go for an oil finish[1], then its easy to top up again, but you
will probably need to give it another coat each year to look good.

Film finishes (e.g. varnishes look good and can last a few years, but
are harder to touch in if they crack or fail - so you need the
discipline to re-coat *before* they show signs of needing it.

The other option is a spirit based wood preservative which includes a
oil/wax protection. Those give a flat colour look, but also impart some
water repelling properties. (I tried the Barrattine wood protective
treatment (Toolstation) last year on some outside furniture. Been quite
impressed with that - it all held up nicely though the winter, and is
still water repellent)


[1] and you need a proper oil designed for wood finishing that includes
driers, and UV protection included. That way it cures properly into a
water resistance treatment.


Dratted Toolstation appear to have almost nothing available for delivery. And the nearest branch is too far away to be viable.

How about:

https://www.wood-finishes-direct.com...tive-treatment



They have a minimum £100 order. :-(

Google finds others:

https://www.earlswoodglc.co.uk/paint...atment-5l.html

https://www.deckingstain.co.uk/shop/...t-5-litre.html

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nourish-Pro.../dp/B06X971QLY



Thanks John - much appreciated.

First one offers delivery at £9,999 - but then says no delivery available.
Second one (oddly) says in stock but then acts as if none available - won't let me add to basket.
And Amazon is a bit expensive - £34.99 though "free" delivery.

Hmmm...

On 11/05/2020 22:08, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Monday, 11 May 2020 16:10:10 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 11/05/2020 09:30, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Sunday, 10 May 2020 00:06:19 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 09/05/2020 19:56, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Saturday, 9 May 2020 19:21:07 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 07/05/2020 08:21, polygonum_on_google wrote:

Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to
make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The
sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly
a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours..
Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase,
Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)

If you go for an oil finish[1], then its easy to top up again, but you
will probably need to give it another coat each year to look good.

Film finishes (e.g. varnishes look good and can last a few years, but
are harder to touch in if they crack or fail - so you need the
discipline to re-coat *before* they show signs of needing it.

The other option is a spirit based wood preservative which includes a
oil/wax protection. Those give a flat colour look, but also impart some
water repelling properties. (I tried the Barrattine wood protective
treatment (Toolstation) last year on some outside furniture. Been quite
impressed with that - it all held up nicely though the winter, and is
still water repellent)


[1] and you need a proper oil designed for wood finishing that includes
driers, and UV protection included. That way it cures properly into a
water resistance treatment.


Dratted Toolstation appear to have almost nothing available for delivery. And the nearest branch is too far away to be viable.

How about:

https://www.wood-finishes-direct.com...tive-treatment



They have a minimum £100 order. :-(

Google finds others:

https://www.earlswoodglc.co.uk/paint...atment-5l.html

https://www.deckingstain.co.uk/shop/...t-5-litre.html

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nourish-Pro.../dp/B06X971QLY



Thanks John - much appreciated.

First one offers delivery at £9,999 - but then says no delivery available.
Second one (oddly) says in stock but then acts as if none available - won't let me add to basket.
And Amazon is a bit expensive - £34.99 though "free" delivery.

Well you know what they say about "free" :-)

Hmmm...

There are plenty of other suppliers listing it if you search.


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John.

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On 09/05/2020 19:21, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Saturday, 9 May 2020 14:39:26 UTC+1, TMH wrote:
On 07/05/2020 08:21, polygonum_on_google wrote:
Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours. Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase, Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)

Clear decking oil. Not stain. If it says on the can that you can wash
brushes in water, don't buy it!

Thank you Dave.

I have reached that point - nice to have it confirmed.

Any suggestions as to the best value? Probably only need 2.5L for now.

Wilko or Screwfix No Nonsense.


--
Dave
The Medway Handyman

On 11/05/2020 09:30, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Sunday, 10 May 2020 00:06:19 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 09/05/2020 19:56, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Saturday, 9 May 2020 19:21:07 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 07/05/2020 08:21, polygonum_on_google wrote:

Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to
make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The
sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly
a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours.
Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase,
Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)

If you go for an oil finish[1], then its easy to top up again, but you
will probably need to give it another coat each year to look good.

Film finishes (e.g. varnishes look good and can last a few years, but
are harder to touch in if they crack or fail - so you need the
discipline to re-coat *before* they show signs of needing it.

The other option is a spirit based wood preservative which includes a
oil/wax protection. Those give a flat colour look, but also impart some
water repelling properties. (I tried the Barrattine wood protective
treatment (Toolstation) last year on some outside furniture. Been quite
impressed with that - it all held up nicely though the winter, and is
still water repellent)


[1] and you need a proper oil designed for wood finishing that includes
driers, and UV protection included. That way it cures properly into a
water resistance treatment.


Dratted Toolstation appear to have almost nothing available for delivery. And the nearest branch is too far away to be viable.

How about:

https://www.wood-finishes-direct.com...tive-treatment



They have a minimum £100 order. :-(



Rediculous in this day & age.

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Dave
The Medway Handyman

On 12/05/2020 13:33, TMH wrote:
On 11/05/2020 09:30, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Sunday, 10 May 2020 00:06:19 UTC+1, John RummÂ* wrote:
On 09/05/2020 19:56, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Saturday, 9 May 2020 19:21:07 UTC+1, John RummÂ* wrote:
On 07/05/2020 08:21, polygonum_on_google wrote:

Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to
make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The
sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly
a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours.
Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase,
Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)

If you go for an oil finish[1], then its easy to top up again, but you
will probably need to give it another coat each year to look good.

Film finishes (e.g. varnishes look good and can last a few years, but
are harder to touch in if they crack or fail - so you need the
discipline toÂ* re-coat *before* they show signs of needing it.

The other option is a spirit based wood preservative which includes a
oil/wax protection. Those give a flat colour look, but also impart
some
water repelling properties. (I tried the Barrattine wood protective
treatment (Toolstation) last year on some outside furniture. Been
quite
impressed with that - it all held up nicely though the winter, and is
still water repellent)


[1] and you need a proper oil designed for wood finishing that
includes
driers, and UV protection included. That way it cures properly into a
water resistance treatment.


Dratted Toolstation appear to have almost nothing available for
delivery. And the nearest branch is too far away to be viable.

How about:

https://www.wood-finishes-direct.com...tive-treatment




They have a minimum £100 order. :-(



Rediculous in this day & age.

Might make sense for some smaller suppliers at the current time. If they
only have limited packing and dispatch capability (either normally or
due to social distancing / works off sick), to apply it to the more
profitable customers in preference.



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Cheers,

John.

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On Tuesday, 12 May 2020 13:34:29 UTC+1, TMH wrote:


Wilko.

Absolutely none available.

The other option is a spirit based wood preservative which includes a
oil/wax protection. Those give a flat colour look, but also impart some
water repelling properties. (I tried the Barrattine wood protective
treatment (Toolstation) last year on some outside furniture. Been quite
impressed with that - it all held up nicely though the winter, and is
still water repellent)

John how good is the UV repellent in it. SWAMBO quite likes the finish of the pressure treated wood of our garage so it has had two applications of a clear treatment but this has no effect in preventing the bleaching of the timber. Does the UV repellency only apply to the coloured versions and the dyes used in them?

Richard

On Wednesday, 13 May 2020 11:56:01 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 12/05/2020 13:33, TMH wrote:
On 11/05/2020 09:30, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Sunday, 10 May 2020 00:06:19 UTC+1, John RummÂ* wrote:
On 09/05/2020 19:56, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Saturday, 9 May 2020 19:21:07 UTC+1, John RummÂ* wrote:
On 07/05/2020 08:21, polygonum_on_google wrote:

Currently creating a small area of decking - nothing fancy, just to
make an area nicer to put table and chairs on than coarse gravel. The
sun hits that area before coming round to the back garden. So mainly
a morning coffee place!

Construction not yet complete.

I'd like some suggestions for treatment. Not keen on bright colours.
Nor dark browns/blacks. And I don't really want shiny.

Plus, really needs to be readily available (we have Wickes, Homebase,
Screwfix, Wilko, B&M and some specialist paint shops.)

If you go for an oil finish[1], then its easy to top up again, but you
will probably need to give it another coat each year to look good.

Film finishes (e.g. varnishes look good and can last a few years, but
are harder to touch in if they crack or fail - so you need the
discipline toÂ* re-coat *before* they show signs of needing it.

The other option is a spirit based wood preservative which includes a
oil/wax protection. Those give a flat colour look, but also impart
some
water repelling properties. (I tried the Barrattine wood protective
treatment (Toolstation) last year on some outside furniture. Been
quite
impressed with that - it all held up nicely though the winter, and is
still water repellent)


[1] and you need a proper oil designed for wood finishing that
includes
driers, and UV protection included. That way it cures properly into a
water resistance treatment.


Dratted Toolstation appear to have almost nothing available for
delivery. And the nearest branch is too far away to be viable.

How about:

https://www.wood-finishes-direct.com...tive-treatment




They have a minimum £100 order. :-(



Rediculous in this day & age.

Might make sense for some smaller suppliers at the current time. If they
only have limited packing and dispatch capability (either normally or
due to social distancing / works off sick), to apply it to the more
profitable customers in preference.

I didn't expect it to be as hard as it is proving.

Have searched for multiple makes, across multiple suppliers, and cannot find an acceptable price - when P&P and VAT are included. :-( Availability has plummeted and price has rocketed.

However, I did see something in Lidl which might do...

(I really don't want to buy 5 litres. More than I need and it is better to buy a modest amount and see how it goes than overstock.)

"Roger Hayter" wrote in message
...

Outdoor walkways built by organisations aware of public liabliity tend
to have chicken netting nailed to them. Very effective, if a little
lacking aesthetically.

A wooden bridge over a local canal leading to a park, has a covering
of what looks like heavy duty roofing felt rivetted to the treads
of the steps, on either side.

By way of contrast last year a neighbouting local authority spent
thousands on a nice wooden staircase giving access to a park from
a side road up a steep embankment; but didn't treat the treads. And
had to close it almost immediately last autumn reportedly as a
result of someone slipping. Its been closed ever since.


michael adams

....






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Roger Hayter

On 13/05/2020 12:33, Tricky Dicky wrote:
The other option is a spirit based wood preservative which includes
a oil/wax protection. Those give a flat colour look, but also
impart some water repelling properties. (I tried the Barrattine
wood protective treatment (Toolstation) last year on some outside
furniture. Been quite impressed with that - it all held up nicely
though the winter, and is still water repellent)

John how good is the UV repellent in it. SWAMBO quite likes the
finish of the pressure treated wood of our garage so it has had two
applications of a clear treatment but this has no effect in
preventing the bleaching of the timber. Does the UV repellency only
apply to the coloured versions and the dyes used in them?

I don't know. The one I used was a coloured one on tanalised pine - so
its hard to judge. So far after about 8 months outside I can't see any
loss of colour or bleaching. However its not been through the full
summer yet!


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Cheers,

John.

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