"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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I suppose we use what you would call a two pipe system. There is talk
here of introducing a new third pipe for greywater. That is, water that
comes from baths, sinks, showers, etc. as opposed to sewerage from
toilets. Difficult to retrofit of course but new estates are likely to
be plumbed this way in the near future.

My parents have a holiday cottage in a tiny village that has no mains
drainage. All the houses have their own septic tank (two-chamber sewage
treatment unit that does more than just store the sewage, as happens with a
cesspit). However to reduce the amount of water that goes into the septic
tank, all the grey water is piped to a communal "land drain" that discharges
into a nearby stream. I'm sure that arrangement contravenes almost every
health and safety and environmental law known to man!

Do many houses have a rainwater drain in the street? I thought that usual
arrangement was for there to be a soakaway under the lawn for rainwater, so
the rainwater and grey/sewage water never mixed. As far as I know, our house
doesn't put rainwater into the septic tank, but pipes it into the same
soakaway under the lawn that is used for the outflow of treated sewage water
from the septic tank.

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 10:17:48 +0100, NY, the really endlessly blathering,
notorious, troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered, yet again:


My parents have a holiday cottage

Oh, no! Not yet more endless senile blather!

FLUSH

NY wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Aren't all Aussie dunnies in the shed?

They never were in the shed when we had dunny
carts collecting the **** and **** that was in tins under
the seat and emptied weekly into the dunny cart.
https://www.google.com/search?q=dunn...ralia&tbm=isch

Great job, eh ?

The job is described in census returns in the UK as "gong farmer"

Never heard that one before.

And they didn't empty the tin under the dunny into the dunny cart.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gong_farmer

or "night soil".

That's the ****, not the **** collector.

My grandpa, who lived in a small town in the woollen manufacturing area of
West Yorkshire, could remember when he was little (so maybe 1910-15) a man
leading a horse-drawn cart with a big wooden barrel, calling out "Old
Wesh" (wash). This was one of those street-vendor's calls that sounds like
gibberish because it's said so many times (as in the Morecambe and Wise
"Morny Stannit" sketch). But this man was actually asking people to take
out their chamberpots of **** to pour into the barrel: stale urine was
used for treating the wool - not sure whether it was part of the fulling
process or for fixing the dye into the wool.

Ours dunny men just opened the door at the back of the dunny,
took the large tin of **** and **** and tipped it into the dunny cart.

**** was also used to make gunpowder in earlier times, but not here.

"NY" wrote in message
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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I suppose we use what you would call a two pipe system. There is talk
here of introducing a new third pipe for greywater. That is, water that
comes from baths, sinks, showers, etc. as opposed to sewerage from
toilets. Difficult to retrofit of course but new estates are likely to
be plumbed this way in the near future.

My parents have a holiday cottage in a tiny village that has no mains
drainage. All the houses have their own septic tank (two-chamber sewage
treatment unit that does more than just store the sewage, as happens with
a cesspit). However to reduce the amount of water that goes into the
septic tank, all the grey water is piped to a communal "land drain" that
discharges into a nearby stream. I'm sure that arrangement contravenes
almost every health and safety and environmental law known to man!

Do many houses have a rainwater drain in the street?

More than half of ours do. And still do. I have been watching
the installation of services in our new subdivisions, what you
lot call an estate. because a mate of mine is having a new
house built on one.

I thought that usual arrangement was for there to be a soakaway under the
lawn for rainwater,

That is done here when the block is downhill of the
road but not when the house is uphill of the road.
And you can see that on the street view of our
streets. The rainwater pipe into the gutter stands
out like dogs balls if you know what to look for.

so the rainwater and grey/sewage water never mixed.

That's certainly what is legal here, but a few flout the law.

As far as I know, our house doesn't put rainwater into the septic tank,

Yeah, that's a very bad way to do a septic tank.

but pipes it into the same soakaway under the lawn that is used for the
outflow of treated sewage water from the septic tank.

Yeah, that's very common.

On 22/04/2020 10:17, NY wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
newsp.0jfq8biwwdg98l@glass...
I suppose we use what you would call a two pipe system. There is talk
here of introducing a new third pipe for greywater. That is, water that
comes from baths, sinks, showers, etc. as opposed to sewerage from
toilets. Difficult to retrofit of course but new estates are likely to
be plumbed this way in the near future.

My parents have a holiday cottage in a tiny village that has no mains
drainage. All the houses have their own septic tank (two-chamber sewage
treatment unit that does more than just store the sewage, as happens
with a cesspit). However to reduce the amount of water that goes into
the septic tank, all the grey water is piped to a communal "land drain"
that discharges into a nearby stream. I'm sure that arrangement
contravenes almost every health and safety and environmental law known
to man!

Do many houses have a rainwater drain in the street? I thought that
usual arrangement was for there to be a soakaway under the lawn for
rainwater, so the rainwater and grey/sewage water never mixed. As far as
I know, our house doesn't put rainwater into the septic tank, but pipes
it into the same soakaway under the lawn that is used for the outflow of
treated sewage water from the septic tank.

The replacement of all in one drain systems by 'rain into local
buffering via soakaways or flood ponds' and 'all grey water and sewage
to be treated', has been gradually implemented over the last 50 years or
more.

There is a massive benefit in terms of flood and hygiene control from
buffering rainwater as near to where it falls as possible. or, failing
that, to get it into the natural ditch/stream/river/sea drainage systems
as fast as possible. The last thing you want to do with it is mix it
with sewage needing treatment and risk raw sewage mixing with flood
water or overwhelming treatment plants.

There is an argument that grey water might be treated separately, but in
the end a three way system is a bit too complex, and there is no telling
how many people pee in the shower, or flush rotting food down the sink.


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On 19-04-2020 23:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:29:57 +0100, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:54:44 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

On 19/04/2020 20:31, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:29:37 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 19/04/2020 20:20, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:12:10 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 19/04/2020 19:28, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why did drainpipes used to have a box on the wall, some sort of
overflow
if blocked? See link below for an example photo.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1jry8zas14bmivc/box.jpg?dl=0
yip hopper heads were for that function and others....usually in the
days of three pipe systems foul waste and rainwater....then again
cast
iron rainwater downpipes weren't usually cocked if they were for
rainwater only and if the drain blocked the water ****ed out of the
first joint above ground......

What's the advantage of your waste spilling all over the garden
instead
of just not leaving the bath?
what ? ...

If the pipe is blocked and you empty your bath, then if you have a box,
the water goes everywhere outside.* If you have no box, the bath just
stays full and you call a plumber.* The second one is preferable
obviously.

In a one pipe combined drainage system where there is no storm water
sewer and if the drain blocks underground and it is raining the water
will back up and will come up the lowest appliance the bath if the
rainwater is into the top of the SVP ....you will have a flood in the
house big time... would like to see you bailing out the bath quicker
than the water backs up into it .......the best way is to take the
rainwater down in its own downpipe to ground level and trap it off into
the combined drain with a vented trap ...then if the underground drain
blocks the rainwater will come out the trap at ground level..... two
pipe systems don't have a vented rainwater trap and the rainwater
downpipe joints are not usually cocked......to be honest hoppers were
just convenient ways of taking pipes from various beaks in the roof to
one downpipe...preferably NOT the SVP for the above reason....sorry I
didn't understand your question ...still don't but HTH ....
*Here the rainwater pipes do NOT connect to sanitary sewers AT ALL

WHY do you CAPITALISE for NO reason?

And nowadays we do have seperate piping.* Costs more to install two sets
of pipes under the road, but saves money having to clean less waste, but
when someone connects something to the wrong pipe as I've done for
convenience, sewage goes into the sea.

P.S. you just replied to someone in a uk group and removed that group,
so he didn't see your reply.* ****wit.


He is a known troll. Just put him in the k/f and move on.

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More than half of ours do.

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On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 09:39:04 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

On 22/04/2020 09:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 22/04/2020 00:38, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:38:45 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:18:03 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 22:10:12 +0100, Rod Speed

wrote:

most obviously with the dunny in the shed etc. The block of flats I
lived
in before building the house actually had a dunny for the gardener.

Aren't all Aussie dunnies in the shed?

They never were in the shed when we had dunny
carts collecting the **** and **** that was in tins under
the seat and emptied weekly into the dunny cart.
https://www.google.com/search?q=dunn...ralia&tbm=isch

Great job, eh ?

What about outhouses?

We call those dunnys. Only the yanks have outhouses.

I thought any toilet was a dunny, no matter if it's indoors or outdoors.
a cludgy if you don't mind ...
or should that be cludgie ...think so

I've lived in Scotland my entire life and detest all their silly words. They should learn to speak proper English.

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 10:09:39 +0100, NY wrote:

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...

Aren't all Aussie dunnies in the shed?

They never were in the shed when we had dunny
carts collecting the **** and **** that was in tins under
the seat and emptied weekly into the dunny cart.
https://www.google.com/search?q=dunn...ralia&tbm=isch

Great job, eh ?

The job is described in census returns in the UK as "gong farmer" or "night
soil".

What is this "census"? I thought it was something done a long time ago and they'd stopped it in modern times. But Wikipedia claims it happens every 10 years in the UK. Why have I never been asked to fill it in? Do they just randomly sample people? I'd fill mine in incorrectly, they have no business collecting that data.

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 10:17:48 +0100, NY wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
newsp.0jfq8biwwdg98l@glass...
I suppose we use what you would call a two pipe system. There is talk
here of introducing a new third pipe for greywater. That is, water that
comes from baths, sinks, showers, etc. as opposed to sewerage from
toilets. Difficult to retrofit of course but new estates are likely to
be plumbed this way in the near future.

My parents have a holiday cottage in a tiny village that has no mains
drainage. All the houses have their own septic tank (two-chamber sewage
treatment unit that does more than just store the sewage, as happens with a
cesspit). However to reduce the amount of water that goes into the septic
tank, all the grey water is piped to a communal "land drain" that discharges
into a nearby stream. I'm sure that arrangement contravenes almost every
health and safety and environmental law known to man!

Every time I've walked near a septic tank it has stunk to high heaven. They're a disgusting invention.

Do many houses have a rainwater drain in the street?

I thought all streets had those - where do you think the rainwater goes that flows off the road?

I thought the usual arrangement was for there to be a soakaway under the lawn for rainwater,

Soakaways don't work, not in Scotland anyway. The land is already waterlogged, you can't shove more into it.

so the rainwater and grey/sewage water never mixed.

How would a soakaway prevent that? Every house I know of (apart form old ones where it's all one pipe) have to pipes, one goes into the rainwater drains and meets up with water flowing off the road, and the other gets treated. Rain into the rivers, grey and brown into the sewage treatment plant. All a soakaway would do is to put less into the rainwater system which goes straight into a river anyway.

As far as I know, our house
doesn't put rainwater into the septic tank, but pipes it into the same
soakaway under the lawn that is used for the outflow of treated sewage water
from the septic tank.

You must have a huge lawn. I couldn't soak that much water away. The lawn is already full of rainwater that landed directly on it, you can't add more to that.

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 10:17:48 +0100, NY wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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I suppose we use what you would call a two pipe system. There is talk
here of introducing a new third pipe for greywater. That is, water
that
comes from baths, sinks, showers, etc. as opposed to sewerage from
toilets. Difficult to retrofit of course but new estates are likely to
be plumbed this way in the near future.

My parents have a holiday cottage in a tiny village that has no mains
drainage. All the houses have their own septic tank (two-chamber sewage
treatment unit that does more than just store the sewage, as happens with
a
cesspit). However to reduce the amount of water that goes into the septic
tank, all the grey water is piped to a communal "land drain" that
discharges
into a nearby stream. I'm sure that arrangement contravenes almost every
health and safety and environmental law known to man!

Every time I've walked near a septic tank it has stunk to high heaven.

You have no idea how many you have walked near that havent.

They're a disgusting invention.

Better than a cess pit, stupid.

Do many houses have a rainwater drain in the street?

I thought all streets had those - where do you think the rainwater goes
that flows off the road?

That's not HOUSES stupid.

I thought the usual arrangement was for there to be a soakaway under the
lawn for rainwater,

Soakaways don't work, not in Scotland anyway.

Bull****.

The land is already waterlogged, you can't shove more into it.

Bull****.

so the rainwater and grey/sewage water never mixed.

How would a soakaway prevent that?

You put the grey water into the soakaway
and the **** and **** into the sewer, stupid.

Every house I know of (apart form old ones where it's all one pipe) have
to pipes, one goes into the rainwater drains and meets up with water
flowing off the road, and the other gets treated. Rain into the rivers,
grey and brown into the sewage treatment plant. All a soakaway would do
is to put less into the rainwater system which goes straight into a river
anyway.

As far as I know, our house doesn't put rainwater into the septic tank,
but pipes it into the same soakaway under the lawn that is used for the
outflow of treated sewage water from the septic tank.

You must have a huge lawn. I couldn't soak that much water away.

It must have done before the house was there.

The lawn is already full of rainwater that landed directly on it, you
can't add more to that.

Wrong, as always.

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In article op.0jhlq6gfwdg98l@glass, Commander Kinsey
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 10:09:39 +0100, NY wrote:

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...

Aren't all Aussie dunnies in the shed?

They never were in the shed when we had dunny carts collecting the
**** and **** that was in tins under the seat and emptied weekly into
the dunny cart.
https://www.google.com/search?q=dunn...ralia&tbm=isch

Great job, eh ?

The job is described in census returns in the UK as "gong farmer" or
"night soil".

What is this "census"? I thought it was something done a long time ago
and they'd stopped it in modern times. But Wikipedia claims it happens
every 10 years in the UK. Why have I never been asked to fill it in? Do
they just randomly sample people? I'd fill mine in incorrectly, they
have no business collecting that data.

every house is sent a form.

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troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered:


What is this "census"? I thought it was something done a long time ago
and they'd stopped it in modern times. But Wikipedia claims it happens
every 10 years in the UK. Why have I never been asked to fill it in? Do
they just randomly sample people? I'd fill mine in incorrectly, they
have no business collecting that data.

every house is sent a form.

And another senile idiot appears who can't resist the sociopathic attention
whore's and ******'s latest bait! tsk

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 03:16:48 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 01:34:12 +0100, Rod Speed
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:26:41 +0100, Rod Speed
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:29:37 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 19/04/2020 20:20, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:12:10 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 19/04/2020 19:28, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why did drainpipes used to have a box on the wall, some sort of
overflow
if blocked? See link below for an example photo.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1jry8zas14bmivc/box.jpg?dl=0
yip hopper heads were for that function and others....usually in
the
days of three pipe systems foul waste and rainwater....then again
cast
iron rainwater downpipes weren't usually cocked if they were for
rainwater only and if the drain blocked the water ****ed out of the
first joint above ground......

What's the advantage of your waste spilling all over the garden
instead
of just not leaving the bath?
what ? ...

If the pipe is blocked and you empty your bath, then if you have a
box,
the water goes everywhere outside. If you have no box, the bath just
stays full and you call a plumber. The second one is preferable
obviously.

No its not; Much more convenient for the bath
to keep working until the plumber shows up.

I don't want a bath full of water all over my garden.

Most care much more about not being able to have
a bath or shower until the plumber has shown up.

Just how long does it take you to get a plumber?

Depends on what else is going on. Mate of mine
in Sydney had a real problem in a deluge that
was flooding most of sydney and his block of flats.

Floods? Do you live on a soggy island?

I can get one within 24 hours unless it's a Sunday. Short enough time to
go without a bath.

But if you have a hopper system it doesn't matter
how long it takes, you can carry on regardless and
keep having the baths and showers you usually do.

I don't have to have several baths within 24 hours.

Or you could just fix it yourself. How helpless do you have to be to not
be able to unblock a drain?

Still much more convenient to be able to leave doing
that until its convenient instead of having to do without
a bath or a shower until its done. Particularly if you arent
a benefits bludger like you and do actually work.

I've had only 1 blocked drain in the 20 years I've lived here. And it didn't prevent anything from emptying, it just oozed into the garden from a manhole cover a bit.

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On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 03:16:48 +0100, Rod Speed
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 01:34:12 +0100, Rod Speed
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:26:41 +0100, Rod Speed

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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:29:37 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 19/04/2020 20:20, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 20:12:10 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 19/04/2020 19:28, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why did drainpipes used to have a box on the wall, some sort of
overflow
if blocked? See link below for an example photo.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1jry8zas14bmivc/box.jpg?dl=0
yip hopper heads were for that function and others....usually in
the
days of three pipe systems foul waste and rainwater....then again
cast
iron rainwater downpipes weren't usually cocked if they were for
rainwater only and if the drain blocked the water ****ed out of
the
first joint above ground......

What's the advantage of your waste spilling all over the garden
instead
of just not leaving the bath?
what ? ...

If the pipe is blocked and you empty your bath, then if you have a
box,
the water goes everywhere outside. If you have no box, the bath
just
stays full and you call a plumber. The second one is preferable
obviously.

No its not; Much more convenient for the bath
to keep working until the plumber shows up.

I don't want a bath full of water all over my garden.

Most care much more about not being able to have
a bath or shower until the plumber has shown up.

Just how long does it take you to get a plumber?

Depends on what else is going on. Mate of mine
in Sydney had a real problem in a deluge that
was flooding most of sydney and his block of flats.

Floods? Do you live on a soggy island?

Nope but we do get plenty of floods.

And droughts too.

I can get one within 24 hours unless it's a Sunday. Short enough time
to go without a bath.

But if you have a hopper system it doesn't matter
how long it takes, you can carry on regardless and
keep having the baths and showers you usually do.

I don't have to have several baths within 24 hours.

But those with more than one person in the house do.

Or you could just fix it yourself. How helpless do you have to be to
not be able to unblock a drain?

Still much more convenient to be able to leave doing
that until its convenient instead of having to do without
a bath or a shower until its done. Particularly if you arent
a benefits bludger like you and do actually work.

I've had only 1 blocked drain in the 20 years I've lived here.

Irrelevant to what others have had. It isnt just about you, psychopath.

And it didn't prevent anything from emptying, it just oozed into the
garden from a manhole cover a bit.

And plenty of others have had blockages that have
prevented the bath or shower from emptying.

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On 22/04/2020 18:59, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 09:39:04 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 22/04/2020 09:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 22/04/2020 00:38, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:38:45 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:18:03 +0100, Rod Speed

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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 22:10:12 +0100, Rod Speed

wrote:

most obviously with the dunny in the shed etc. The block of
flats I
lived
in before building the house actually had a dunny for the
gardener.

Aren't all Aussie dunnies in the shed?

They never were in the shed when we had dunny
carts collecting the **** and **** that was in tins under
the seat and emptied weekly into the dunny cart.
https://www.google.com/search?q=dunn...ralia&tbm=isch

Great job, eh ?

What about outhouses?

We call those dunnys. Only the yanks have outhouses.

I thought any toilet was a dunny, no matter if it's indoors or
outdoors.
a cludgy if you don't mind ...
or should that be cludgie ...think so

I've lived in Scotland my entire life and detest all their silly words.
They should learn to speak proper English.
I suppose you say noggin instead of dwang then ? .....

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On 22/04/2020 19:08, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 10:17:48 +0100, NY wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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I suppose we use what you would call a two pipe system. There is talk
here of introducing a new third pipe for greywater. That is, water
that
comes from baths, sinks, showers, etc. as opposed to sewerage from
toilets. Difficult to retrofit of course but new estates are likely to
be plumbed this way in the near future.

My parents have a holiday cottage in a tiny village that has no mains
drainage. All the houses have their own septic tank (two-chamber sewage
treatment unit that does more than just store the sewage, as happens
with a
cesspit). However to reduce the amount of water that goes into the septic
tank, all the grey water is piped to a communal "land drain" that
discharges
into a nearby stream. I'm sure that arrangement contravenes almost every
health and safety and environmental law known to man!

Every time I've walked near a septic tank it has stunk to high heaven.
They're a disgusting invention.

Do many houses have a rainwater drain in the street?

I thought all streets had those - where do you think the rainwater goes
that flows off the road?

I thought the usual arrangement was for there to be a soakaway under
the lawn for rainwater,

Soakaways don't work, not in Scotland anyway.* The land is already
waterlogged, you can't shove more into it.

so the rainwater and grey/sewage water never mixed.

How would a soakaway prevent that?* Every house I know of (apart form
old ones where it's all one pipe) have to pipes, one goes into the
rainwater drains and meets up with water flowing off the road, and the
other gets treated.* Rain into the rivers, grey and brown into the
sewage treatment plant.* All a soakaway would do is to put less into the
rainwater system which goes straight into a river anyway.

As far as I know, our house
doesn't put rainwater into the septic tank, but pipes it into the same
soakaway under the lawn that is used for the outflow of treated sewage
water
from the septic tank.

You must have a huge lawn.* I couldn't soak that much water away.* The
lawn is already full of rainwater that landed directly on it, you can't
add more to that.
In the near of Scotland puddle clay is just under the vegitable soil
that's why....

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On 23/04/2020 07:52, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 22/04/2020 18:59, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 09:39:04 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

On 22/04/2020 09:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 22/04/2020 00:38, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:38:45 +0100, Rod Speed
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:18:03 +0100, Rod Speed

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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 22:10:12 +0100, Rod Speed

wrote:

most obviously with the dunny in the shed etc. The block of
flats I
lived
in before building the house actually had a dunny for the
gardener.

Aren't all Aussie dunnies in the shed?

They never were in the shed when we had dunny
carts collecting the **** and **** that was in tins under
the seat and emptied weekly into the dunny cart.
https://www.google.com/search?q=dunn...ralia&tbm=isch

Great job, eh ?

What about outhouses?

We call those dunnys. Only the yanks have outhouses.

I thought any toilet was a dunny, no matter if it's indoors or
outdoors.
a cludgy if you don't mind ...
or should that be cludgie ...think so

I've lived in Scotland my entire life and detest all their silly
words. They should learn to speak proper English.
I suppose you say noggin instead of dwang then ? .....

....and nobody in the near of scotland will know what you are talking
about...enjoy

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On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 07:52:22 +0100, Dim GM4DHJ ... the brain dead,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered again:


I suppose you say noggin instead of dwang then ? .....

I suppose you are about as much of a useless piece of **** as that
sociopathic attention whore!

On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 08:10:28 +0100, Dim GM4DHJ ... the brain dead,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered again:


I suppose you say noggin instead of dwang then ? .....

...and nobody in the near of scotland will know what you are talking
about...enjoy

Soon everybody here will know what a ****ed up driveling tosser you are!
BG

On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 07:53:51 +0100, Dim GM4DHJ ... the brain dead,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered again:

In the near of Scotland puddle clay is just under the vegitable soil
that's why....

YOU'd better worry about all the clay (i.e. ****) you got for brains, Dim!

On 23/04/2020 09:12, Peeler wrote:
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 07:52:22 +0100, Dim GM4DHJ ... the brain dead,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered again:


I suppose you say noggin instead of dwang then ? .....

I suppose you are about as much of a useless piece of **** as that
sociopathic attention whore!

but what can you do

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On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 02:30:36 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 00:41:57 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:38:45 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:18:03 +0100, Rod Speed

wrote:

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U-bends mean it doesn't matter if every pipe isn't fresh.

He didn't mean fresh in that sense, turds and **** lying in
the sewer past the bend for weeks or months. That doesn't
happen with the rain water and sewer are the one pipe.

If they're past the bend who cares?

Those who have to unblock them.

Blockages are caused by toilet paper, not ****.

Blockages are in fact not caused by toilet paper at all.

Funny how there's so much of it when you clear the pipe.

Only for you fools that are actually stupid enough
to use and entire roll every day for each person.

How much you use depends on your diet actually.

It swells up.

No it doesn't.

Oh for goodness sake, just shove some in a sink of water and watch it. Now pick up the soggy lump and think how hard that would be to go through a pipe.

A plumber told me Izal didn't have this problem.

There is no problem.

Clearly there is or drain cleaning companies would be out of business.

most obviously with the dunny in the shed etc. The block of flats I
lived
in before building the house actually had a dunny for the gardener.

Aren't all Aussie dunnies in the shed?

They never were in the shed when we had dunny
carts collecting the **** and **** that was in tins under
the seat and emptied weekly into the dunny cart.
https://www.google.com/search?q=dunn...ralia&tbm=isch

Great job, eh ?

What about outhouses?

We call those dunnys. Only the yanks have outhouses.

I thought any toilet was a dunny, no matter if it's indoors or outdoors.

Sure, but we have never had outhouses.

ROTFPMSL!
https://www.thebananabenderpub.com.a...-registrations

Yoi're just jealous...

It does look like a bit of a larf.

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 20:24:52 +0100, charles wrote:

In article op.0jhlq6gfwdg98l@glass, Commander Kinsey
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 10:09:39 +0100, NY wrote:

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...

Aren't all Aussie dunnies in the shed?

They never were in the shed when we had dunny carts collecting the
**** and **** that was in tins under the seat and emptied weekly into
the dunny cart.
https://www.google.com/search?q=dunn...ralia&tbm=isch

Great job, eh ?

The job is described in census returns in the UK as "gong farmer" or
"night soil".

What is this "census"? I thought it was something done a long time ago
and they'd stopped it in modern times. But Wikipedia claims it happens
every 10 years in the UK. Why have I never been asked to fill it in? Do
they just randomly sample people? I'd fill mine in incorrectly, they
have no business collecting that data.

every house is sent a form.

Clearly not as I've never had one. And yes I'm on the electoral roll.

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 02:30:36 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 00:41:57 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:38:45 +0100, Rod Speed

wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:18:03 +0100, Rod Speed

wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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U-bends mean it doesn't matter if every pipe isn't fresh.

He didn't mean fresh in that sense, turds and **** lying in
the sewer past the bend for weeks or months. That doesn't
happen with the rain water and sewer are the one pipe.

If they're past the bend who cares?

Those who have to unblock them.

Blockages are caused by toilet paper, not ****.

Blockages are in fact not caused by toilet paper at all.

Funny how there's so much of it when you clear the pipe.

Only for you fools that are actually stupid enough
to use an entire roll every day for each person.

How much you use depends on your diet actually.

But no diet needs a whole roll a day.

It swells up.

No it doesn't.

Oh for goodness sake, just shove some in a sink of water and watch it.

Done that when I need to use it to apply some water to something
and have it stay wet while what its applied to soaks up the water.

Doesn't swell up.

Now pick up the soggy lump and think how hard that would be to go through
a pipe.

Trivially easily given how easily it comes apart.

A plumber told me Izal didn't have this problem.

There is no problem.

Clearly there is or drain cleaning companies would be out of business.

That problem isnt due to the dunny paper, ****wit.

most obviously with the dunny in the shed etc. The block of flats
I
lived
in before building the house actually had a dunny for the
gardener.

Aren't all Aussie dunnies in the shed?

They never were in the shed when we had dunny
carts collecting the **** and **** that was in tins under
the seat and emptied weekly into the dunny cart.
https://www.google.com/search?q=dunn...ralia&tbm=isch

Great job, eh ?

What about outhouses?

We call those dunnys. Only the yanks have outhouses.

I thought any toilet was a dunny, no matter if it's indoors or
outdoors.

Sure, but we have never had outhouses.

ROTFPMSL!
https://www.thebananabenderpub.com.a...-registrations

Yoi're just jealous...

It does look like a bit of a larf.

It can be, particularly when the participants are blotto as they usually
are.

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 20:24:52 +0100, charles
wrote:

In article op.0jhlq6gfwdg98l@glass, Commander Kinsey
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 10:09:39 +0100, NY wrote:

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...

Aren't all Aussie dunnies in the shed?

They never were in the shed when we had dunny carts collecting the
**** and **** that was in tins under the seat and emptied weekly into
the dunny cart.
https://www.google.com/search?q=dunn...ralia&tbm=isch

Great job, eh ?

The job is described in census returns in the UK as "gong farmer" or
"night soil".

What is this "census"? I thought it was something done a long time ago
and they'd stopped it in modern times. But Wikipedia claims it happens
every 10 years in the UK. Why have I never been asked to fill it in?
Do
they just randomly sample people? I'd fill mine in incorrectly, they
have no business collecting that data.

every house is sent a form.

Clearly not as I've never had one. And yes I'm on the electoral roll.

Or decided it was junk mail and tossed it.

....and much better air in here again!

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Birdbrain: "You beat me to it. Plain sex is boring."

Senile Rodent: "Then **** the cats. That wont be boring."

Birdbrain: "Sell me a de-clawing tool first."

Senile Rodent: "Wont help with the teeth."

Birdbrain: "They've never gone for me with their mouths."

Rodent Speed: "They will if you are stupid enough to try ****ing them."

Birdbrain: "No, they always use claws."

Rodent Speed: "They wont if you try ****ing them. Try it and see."

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On 22/04/2020 00:38, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:38:45 +0100, Rod Speed
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:18:03 +0100, Rod Speed
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 22:10:12 +0100, Rod Speed

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Don't most people do a **** a day?

But don't use every dunny for that every day,

U-bends mean it doesn't matter if every pipe isn't fresh.

He didn't mean fresh in that sense, turds and **** lying in
the sewer past the bend for weeks or months. That doesn't
happen with the rain water and sewer are the one pipe.

If they're past the bend who cares?

Those who have to unblock them.

Blockages are caused by toilet paper, not ****.

most obviously with the dunny in the shed etc. The block of flats I
lived
in before building the house actually had a dunny for the gardener.

Aren't all Aussie dunnies in the shed?

They never were in the shed when we had dunny
carts collecting the **** and **** that was in tins under
the seat and emptied weekly into the dunny cart.
https://www.google.com/search?q=dunn...ralia&tbm=isch

Great job, eh ?

What about outhouses?

We call those dunnys. Only the yanks have outhouses.

I thought any toilet was a dunny, no matter if it's indoors or outdoors.
a cludgy if you don't mind ...
or should that be cludgie ...think so

Naw - 'nettie'.
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