got my new debit card today and it no longer has raised letters and
numbers...so I guess those old school credit card machines are no longer
? .....much easier to read

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:41:04 +0000, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

got my new debit card today and it no longer has raised letters and
numbers...so I guess those old school credit card machines are no longer
? .....much easier to read

FFS Jimmy. ****ter is that way

Or at least have the decency to mark your *completely* OT threads as
such.


Cheers, T i m

In article , T i m
writes
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:41:04 +0000, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

got my new debit card today and it no longer has raised letters and
numbers...so I guess those old school credit card machines are no longer
? .....much easier to read

FFS Jimmy. ****ter is that way

Or at least have the decency to mark your *completely* OT threads as
such.


Cheers, T i m
At least he will have the decency to post his comment only once rather
than repeating the same monotonously for 4years+.
--
bert

On 14/02/2020 10:41, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
got my new debit card today and it no longer has raised letters and
numbers...so I guess those old school credit card machines are no longer
? .....much easier to read

They'll have to write the numbers down with a Biro on the form when the
Sun flares up and wipes out all the electronics.

--
Max Demian

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:16:26 +0000, bert wrote:

In article , T i m
writes
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:41:04 +0000, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

got my new debit card today and it no longer has raised letters and
numbers...so I guess those old school credit card machines are no longer
? .....much easier to read

FFS Jimmy. ****ter is that way

Or at least have the decency to mark your *completely* OT threads as
such.



At least he will have the decency to post his comment only once rather
than repeating the same monotonously for 4years+.

Oh you poor, sad left brainer.

See, what has obviously whooshed you is the *massive* difference
between Jimmy mistaking this d-i-y ng as his personal twitter feed and
*starting* numerous trivia threads without following the ng etiquette
of marking them OT and something that is supposed to be democratic but
wasn't and is likely to affect *all of us* to the detriment.

Cheers, T i m

On 14/02/2020 14:02, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:16:26 +0000, bert wrote:

In article , T i m
writes
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:41:04 +0000, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

got my new debit card today and it no longer has raised letters and
numbers...so I guess those old school credit card machines are no longer
? .....much easier to read

FFS Jimmy. ****ter is that way

Or at least have the decency to mark your *completely* OT threads as
such.



At least he will have the decency to post his comment only once rather
than repeating the same monotonously for 4years+.

Oh you poor, sad left brainer.

See, what has obviously whooshed you is the *massive* difference
between Jimmy mistaking this d-i-y ng as his personal twitter feed and
*starting* numerous trivia threads without following the ng etiquette
of marking them OT and something that is supposed to be democratic but
wasn't and is likely to affect *all of us* to the detriment.

Cheers, T i m

I don't do ****ter and when the political posts stop here I might take
some notice of what you say....no offence I quite like your posts....

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 14:20:14 +0000, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

On 14/02/2020 14:02, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:16:26 +0000, bert wrote:

In article , T i m
writes
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:41:04 +0000, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

got my new debit card today and it no longer has raised letters and
numbers...so I guess those old school credit card machines are no longer
? .....much easier to read

FFS Jimmy. ****ter is that way

Or at least have the decency to mark your *completely* OT threads as
such.



At least he will have the decency to post his comment only once rather
than repeating the same monotonously for 4years+.

Oh you poor, sad left brainer.

See, what has obviously whooshed you is the *massive* difference
between Jimmy mistaking this d-i-y ng as his personal twitter feed and
*starting* numerous trivia threads without following the ng etiquette
of marking them OT and something that is supposed to be democratic but
wasn't and is likely to affect *all of us* to the detriment.


I don't do ****ter

You do, here!

and when the political posts stop here I might take
some notice of what you say....

Most OT threads are at least marked as such.

no offence I quite like your posts....

If *you* like them I am offended! ;-)

Cheers, T i m

On 14/02/2020 16:04, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 14:20:14 +0000, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

On 14/02/2020 14:02, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:16:26 +0000, bert wrote:

In article , T i m
writes
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:41:04 +0000, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

got my new debit card today and it no longer has raised letters and
numbers...so I guess those old school credit card machines are no longer
? .....much easier to read

FFS Jimmy. ****ter is that way

Or at least have the decency to mark your *completely* OT threads as
such.



At least he will have the decency to post his comment only once rather
than repeating the same monotonously for 4years+.

Oh you poor, sad left brainer.

See, what has obviously whooshed you is the *massive* difference
between Jimmy mistaking this d-i-y ng as his personal twitter feed and
*starting* numerous trivia threads without following the ng etiquette
of marking them OT and something that is supposed to be democratic but
wasn't and is likely to affect *all of us* to the detriment.


I don't do ****ter

You do, here!

and when the political posts stop here I might take
some notice of what you say....

Most OT threads are at least marked as such.

no offence I quite like your posts....

If *you* like them I am offended! ;-)

Cheers, T i m

tuff luck ...

On 14/02/2020 15:36, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
I have to actually get read to me each time by a trusted person, this can be
done at a main branch if you have nobody trustworthy. Mine is chip and
signature and its surprising even though these are legal for us to use, how
many shops decline doing business due to this. However despite them being
reported to the right authorities the law has no teeth it seems.

Raised or flat letters cannot be read by me, since its not Braille is it?
As I said in my original response, mine has them raised, but the security
code never was, hence the need for a trusted person.
Still its only every so many years I guess. I'd not trust my phone to read
the correct numbers since the way they are written is designed to not be
very readable by a machine other than theirs one assumes.
Too many norty people with cameras on cash machines!

Brian

I'll read your numbers for you...tee hee

On 14/02/2020 10:41, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
got my new debit card today and it no longer has raised letters and
numbers...so I guess those old school credit card machines are no longer
? .....much easier to read

However, if you want to use a debit card instead of a credit card to
hire a car, some companies won't accept the ones without raised letters
(it is specifically noted).

SteveW

On 14/02/2020 16:22, Steve Walker wrote:
On 14/02/2020 10:41, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
got my new debit card today and it no longer has raised letters and
numbers...so I guess those old school credit card machines are no
longer ? .....much easier to read

However, if you want to use a debit card instead of a credit card to
hire a car, some companies won't accept the ones without raised letters
(it is specifically noted).

SteveW

well that is progress for you .....

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 16:14:46 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

snip

And what has whooshed T r o l l is that it is he who is treating this
ng as his personal Twitter feed, repeating as he does the same
content-free ******** with monotonous regularity.

Bwhahahaha ... at least *NONE* of what I post isn't directly forwarded
from ****ter, as per this Squeaker Goblin!!! (as it can't think for
itself)!!!

Cheers, T i m

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 20:41:17 +0000, T i m wrote:

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 16:14:46 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

snip

And what has whooshed T r o l l is that it is he who is treating this
ng as his personal Twitter feed, repeating as he does the same
content-free ******** with monotonous regularity.

Bwhahahaha ... at least *NONE* of what I post isn't directly forwarded
from ****ter, as per this Squeaker Goblin!!! (as it can't think for
itself)!!!

Cheers, T i m

A r e y o u o n y o u r p e r i o d T i m ?

"T i m" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:41:04 +0000, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

got my new debit card today and it no longer has raised letters and
numbers...so I guess those old school credit card machines are no longer
? .....much easier to read

FFS Jimmy. ****ter is that way

Or at least have the decency to mark your *completely* OT threads as
such.

Wots wrong with a bit of indecency ?

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 21:45:38 +0000, Graham.
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 20:41:17 +0000, T i m wrote:

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 16:14:46 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

snip

And what has whooshed T r o l l is that it is he who is treating this
ng as his personal Twitter feed, repeating as he does the same
content-free ******** with monotonous regularity.

Bwhahahaha ... at least *NONE* of what I post isn't directly forwarded
from ****ter, as per this Squeaker Goblin!!! (as it can't think for
itself)!!!

Cheers, T i m

A r e y o u o n y o u r p e r i o d T i m ?

The mere fact you ask such a thing says all about you we need to know
(thanks).

Cheers, T i m

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 10:17:10 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Wots wrong with a bit of indecency ?

Will you shut your stupid senile gob finally, you senile trolling asshole?

--
Sqwertz to Rot Speed:
"This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative
asshole.
MID:

"Max Demian" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 14/02/2020 10:41, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
got my new debit card today and it no longer has raised letters and
numbers...so I guess those old school credit card machines are no longer
? .....much easier to read

They'll have to write the numbers down with a Biro on the form when the
Sun flares up and wipes out all the electronics.

More likely when the hackers have hijacked the web site.

Max Demian wrote:

On 14/02/2020 10:41, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
got my new debit card today and it no longer has raised letters and
numbers...so I guess those old school credit card machines are no longer
? .....much easier to read

They'll have to write the numbers down with a Biro on the form when the
Sun flares up and wipes out all the electronics.

Yes, they can use the old telegraph for comms,[1] but the number of
abacus operators in the back end systems will be unbelievable.

[1] Does anyone know if we have a strategic reserve of thermionic
devices?


--

Roger Hayter

On 15/02/2020 01:35, Roger Hayter wrote:
Max Demian wrote:

On 14/02/2020 10:41, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
got my new debit card today and it no longer has raised letters and
numbers...so I guess those old school credit card machines are no longer
? .....much easier to read

They'll have to write the numbers down with a Biro on the form when the
Sun flares up and wipes out all the electronics.

Yes, they can use the old telegraph for comms,[1] but the number of
abacus operators in the back end systems will be unbelievable.

[1] Does anyone know if we have a strategic reserve of thermionic
devices?


I have a couple of 817s .....

On Saturday, 15 February 2020 01:35:50 UTC, Roger Hayter wrote:
Max Demian wrote:

On 14/02/2020 10:41, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
got my new debit card today and it no longer has raised letters and
numbers...so I guess those old school credit card machines are no longer
? .....much easier to read

They'll have to write the numbers down with a Biro on the form when the
Sun flares up and wipes out all the electronics.

Yes, they can use the old telegraph for comms,[1] but the number of
abacus operators in the back end systems will be unbelievable.

[1] Does anyone know if we have a strategic reserve of thermionic
devices?

Almost every home still has a thermionic device - a magnetron. Glass valves are getting ever fewer.


NT

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 12:10:00 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


There are iphone apps that will speak the
stuff that the camera can see the text off.

You can shove your idiotPhone, like all your idiotic gadgets, up your senile
arse, you lonely senile pest!

--
Marland revealing the senile sociopath's pathology:
"You have mentioned Alexa in a couple of threads recently, it is not a real
woman you know even if it is the only thing with a Female name that stays
around around while you talk it to it.
Poor sad git who has to resort to Usenet and electronic devices for any
interaction as all real people run a mile to get away from from you boring
them to death."
MID:

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 13:48:54 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


You should be using applepay on your iphone.

You can shove both, your idiotic Applepay and your idiotPhone, up your
senile arse, you lonely quarrelsome senile pest!

--
Norman Wells addressing trolling senile Rodent:
"Ah, the voice of scum speaks."
MID:

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 12:12:57 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


They'll have to write the numbers down with a Biro on the form when the
Sun flares up and wipes out all the electronics.

More likely when the hackers have hijacked the web site.

ROTFLOL This senile Arsetralian arsehole CAN'T but auto-contradict! LMAO

--
Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot:
"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID:

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 13:44:21 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Mine still has them, but they will be phased out. One issue with this is
that for a blind user it makes working out the right way around harder if
they are flat.

Still easy to feel where the chip is for that. And which is the front and
back.

ROTFLOL This senile Arsetralian arsehole just HAS to auto-contradict! No
wonder he got NOBODY, really NOBODY, in real like to talk to! LOL

--
Sqwertz to Rot Speed:
"This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative
asshole.
MID:

On 15/02/2020 08:58, wrote:
On Saturday, 15 February 2020 01:35:50 UTC, Roger Hayter wrote:
Max Demian wrote:

On 14/02/2020 10:41, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
got my new debit card today and it no longer has raised letters and
numbers...so I guess those old school credit card machines are no longer
? .....much easier to read

They'll have to write the numbers down with a Biro on the form when the
Sun flares up and wipes out all the electronics.

Yes, they can use the old telegraph for comms,[1] but the number of
abacus operators in the back end systems will be unbelievable.

[1] Does anyone know if we have a strategic reserve of thermionic
devices?

Almost every home still has a thermionic device - a magnetron. Glass valves are getting ever fewer.

I've got several vacuum fluorescent displays, which are (multiple)
triodes. They are glass.

--
Max Demian