Bog room was stinking at work, turns out there was a blockage but as the
pan itself wasn't backing up there's plainly scope for leakage somewhere
along the pipework under the floor.

I've unblocked it, it's all running freely, the smell has gone.
I can't decide if I can be arsed exploring, there's space issues and
much boxing in.

Just wondering what others would do?

You need a motorised endoscope with a very bendy cable!
Brian

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"R D S" wrote in message
...
Bog room was stinking at work, turns out there was a blockage but as the
pan itself wasn't backing up there's plainly scope for leakage somewhere
along the pipework under the floor.

I've unblocked it, it's all running freely, the smell has gone.
I can't decide if I can be arsed exploring, there's space issues and much
boxing in.

Just wondering what others would do?

On 24/01/20 19:31, R D S wrote:
Bog room was stinking at work, turns out there was a blockage but as the
pan itself wasn't backing up there's plainly scope for leakage somewhere
along the pipework under the floor.

I've unblocked it, it's all running freely, the smell has gone.
I can't decide if I can be arsed exploring, there's space issues and
much boxing in.

Just wondering what others would do?

Depends if you are willing to spend a little. What about getting someone
in who has CCTV? That could be pushed along the pipes to see if there is
anything obvious which could have led to the blockage, and might do again.

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"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 19:31:14 +0000, R D S wrote:

Bog room was stinking at work, turns out there was a blockage but as the
pan itself wasn't backing up there's plainly scope for leakage somewhere
along the pipework under the floor.

I've unblocked it, it's all running freely, the smell has gone.
I can't decide if I can be arsed exploring, there's space issues and
much boxing in.

Just wondering what others would do?

'at work'. Says it all - not your problem, shirley.

It is if he is the employer, joyce.

If it's flushing
away OK, and no longer smelling, doubly not your problem.

On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 08:57:31 +1100, Ray, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:


'at work'. Says it all - not your problem, shirley.

It is if he is the employer, joyce.

Isn't it time for you to go to bed finally, at 08:57? You've been up and
trolling all night long, yet AGAIN, you abnormal senile cretin! BG

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"Ah, the voice of scum speaks."
MID:

I don't know where you are but my neighbour runs a speciality drain clearing service in East and North Yorkshire called 1-2-Clear. They are geared up to investigate and sort out such problems. He's recently dealt with a cracked underground drain that caused a house to continuously suffer a low level stink of sewage.

On 24/01/2020 19:31, R D S wrote:
Bog room was stinking at work, turns out there was a blockage but as the
pan itself wasn't backing up there's plainly scope for leakage somewhere
along the pipework under the floor.

I've unblocked it, it's all running freely, the smell has gone.
I can't decide if I can be arsed exploring, there's space issues and
much boxing in.

Just wondering what others would do?

replace the multi quick that's were I found all the smalls were coming
from in the last static caravan

On 24/01/2020 20:56, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 19:31:14 +0000, R D S wrote:

Bog room was stinking at work, turns out there was a blockage but as the
pan itself wasn't backing up there's plainly scope for leakage somewhere
along the pipework under the floor.

I've unblocked it, it's all running freely, the smell has gone.
I can't decide if I can be arsed exploring, there's space issues and
much boxing in.

Just wondering what others would do?

'at work'. Says it all - not your problem, shirley. If it's flushing
away OK, and no longer smelling, doubly not your problem.


Sadly (well, not really I suppose) I own the gaff.
While there's no evident problem currently I can't help but be concerned
what's going on beneath.

Someone mentioned cameras, I wonder whether to get one next time they
are in Aldi/Lidl. and shove it up from the manhole end.

On 24/01/2020 19:31, R D S wrote:
Bog room was stinking at work, turns out there was a blockage but as the
pan itself wasn't backing up there's plainly scope for leakage somewhere
along the pipework under the floor.

I've unblocked it, it's all running freely, the smell has gone.
I can't decide if I can be arsed exploring, there's space issues and
much boxing in.

Just wondering what others would do?

Was there water in the bottom of the pan when the stink was detected?
Some temporary blockages with toilet paper allow the water in the pan
and around the trap to be syphoned out leaving an air passage to the
sewer, and hence the stink. Clearing the blockage and re-filling the
pan/trap with water is the complete cure.

I once worked in a building where one of the toilet blocks was no longer
being used and the water turned off and the door locked. Within a
relatively short period there was a faint unpleasant smell throughout
the building which got worse as the weeks passed. After much
investigation the cause was found to be a absence of water in the bog
traps in this disused toilet.

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In message , alan_m
writes
On 24/01/2020 19:31, R D S wrote:
Bog room was stinking at work, turns out there was a blockage but as
the pan itself wasn't backing up there's plainly scope for leakage
somewhere along the pipework under the floor.
I've unblocked it, it's all running freely, the smell has gone.
I can't decide if I can be arsed exploring, there's space issues and
much boxing in.
Just wondering what others would do?

Boxing:-) My daughter once had a flat in Shepherds Bush which suffered
from just such pongs. As the elderly leaseholder was reluctant to bring
in professionals, I used expanding foam (fireproof) to close off the
boxing before it entered the flat.

Was there water in the bottom of the pan when the stink was detected?
Some temporary blockages with toilet paper allow the water in the pan
and around the trap to be syphoned out leaving an air passage to the
sewer, and hence the stink. Clearing the blockage and re-filling the
pan/trap with water is the complete cure.

I once worked in a building where one of the toilet blocks was no
longer being used and the water turned off and the door locked. Within
a relatively short period there was a faint unpleasant smell throughout
the building which got worse as the weeks passed. After much
investigation the cause was found to be a absence of water in the bog
traps in this disused toilet.

Vent pipes can *suck* pans dry in very strong winds.


--
Tim Lamb

On 25/01/2020 11:44, R D S wrote:
On 24/01/2020 20:56, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 19:31:14 +0000, R D S wrote:

Bog room was stinking at work, turns out there was a blockage but as the
pan itself wasn't backing up there's plainly scope for leakage somewhere
along the pipework under the floor.

I've unblocked it, it's all running freely, the smell has gone.
I can't decide if I can be arsed exploring, there's space issues and
much boxing in.

Just wondering what others would do?

'at work'. Says it all - not your problem, shirley. If it's flushing
away OK, and no longer smelling, doubly not your problem.


Sadly (well, not really I suppose) I own the gaff.
While there's no evident problem currently I can't help but be concerned
what's going on beneath.

Someone mentioned cameras, I wonder whether to get one next time they
are in Aldi/Lidl. and shove it up from the manhole end.

Such cameras are not as easy to use as you might think. It could be that
you have a very obvious leak, it might be less obvious. A lot depends on
the geometry and materials of construction. Is this a plastic drain or a
ceramic one. If plastic, is it running underneath your lowest suspended
floor? Hence perhaps leaking on to earth? Or is the building age and
construction such that it would be leaking on to a concrete slab. How
far is it from the loo to the manhole? Is the manhole within or outside
the building? The devil is in the detail.

On 25/01/2020 12:43, alan_m wrote:
On 24/01/2020 19:31, R D S wrote:
Bog room was stinking at work, turns out there was a blockage but as
the pan itself wasn't backing up there's plainly scope for leakage
somewhere along the pipework under the floor.

I've unblocked it, it's all running freely, the smell has gone.
I can't decide if I can be arsed exploring, there's space issues and
much boxing in.

Just wondering what others would do?

Was there water in the bottom of the pan when the stink was detected?
Some temporary blockages with toilet paper allow the water in the pan
and around the trap to be syphoned out leaving an air passage to the
sewer, and hence the stink. Clearing the blockage and re-filling the
pan/trap with water is the complete cure.

I once worked in a building where one of the toilet blocks was no longer
being used and the water turned off and the door locked. Within a
relatively short period there was a faint unpleasant smell throughout
the building which got worse as the weeks passed. After much
investigation the cause was found to be a absence of water in the bog
traps in this disused toilet.

that was a clever thing to do...

On 25/01/2020 13:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , alan_m
writes
On 24/01/2020 19:31, R D S wrote:
Bog room was stinking at work, turns out there was a blockage but as
theÂ* pan itself wasn't backing up there's plainly scope for leakage
somewhereÂ* along the pipework under the floor.
Â*I've unblocked it, it's all running freely, the smell has gone.
I can't decide if I can be arsed exploring, there's space issues and
much boxing in.
Â*Just wondering what others would do?

Boxing:-) My daughter once had a flat in Shepherds Bush which suffered
from just such pongs. As the elderly leaseholder was reluctant to bring
in professionals, I used expanding foam (fireproof) to close off the
boxing before it entered the flat.

Was there water in the bottom of the pan when the stink was detected?
Some temporary blockages with toilet paper allow the water in the pan
and around the trap to be syphoned out leaving an air passage to the
sewer, and hence the stink. Clearing the blockage and re-filling the
pan/trap with water is the complete cure.

I once worked in a building where one of the toilet blocks was no
longer being used and the water turned off and the door locked. Within
a relatively short period there was a faint unpleasant smell
throughout the building which got worse as the weeks passed. After
much investigation the cause was found to be a absence of water in the
bog traps in this disused toilet.

Vent pipes can *suck* pans dry in very strong winds.


have to be some wind to draw a four inch trap!

On 26/01/2020 04:59, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 25/01/2020 13:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , alan_m
writes
On 24/01/2020 19:31, R D S wrote:
Bog room was stinking at work, turns out there was a blockage but as
theÂ* pan itself wasn't backing up there's plainly scope for leakage
somewhereÂ* along the pipework under the floor.
Â*I've unblocked it, it's all running freely, the smell has gone.
I can't decide if I can be arsed exploring, there's space issues and
much boxing in.
Â*Just wondering what others would do?

Boxing:-) My daughter once had a flat in Shepherds Bush which suffered
from just such pongs. As the elderly leaseholder was reluctant to
bring in professionals, I used expanding foam (fireproof) to close off
the boxing before it entered the flat.

Was there water in the bottom of the pan when the stink was detected?
Some temporary blockages with toilet paper allow the water in the pan
and around the trap to be syphoned out leaving an air passage to the
sewer, and hence the stink. Clearing the blockage and re-filling the
pan/trap with water is the complete cure.

I once worked in a building where one of the toilet blocks was no
longer being used and the water turned off and the door locked.
Within a relatively short period there was a faint unpleasant smell
throughout the building which got worse as the weeks passed. After
much investigation the cause was found to be a absence of water in
the bog traps in this disused toilet.

Vent pipes can *suck* pans dry in very strong winds.


have to be some wind to draw a four inch trap!
did you just make that up ? ....

On 25/01/2020 10:55, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 24/01/2020 19:31, R D S wrote:
Bog room was stinking at work, turns out there was a blockage but as
the pan itself wasn't backing up there's plainly scope for leakage
somewhere along the pipework under the floor.

I've unblocked it, it's all running freely, the smell has gone.
I can't decide if I can be arsed exploring, there's space issues and
much boxing in.

Just wondering what others would do?

replace the multi quick that's were I found all the smalls were coming
from in the last static caravan
sorry smells...that was that FMF .....

Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 26/01/2020 04:59, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 25/01/2020 13:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , alan_m
writes
On 24/01/2020 19:31, R D S wrote:
Bog room was stinking at work, turns out there was a blockage but as
theÂ* pan itself wasn't backing up there's plainly scope for leakage
somewhereÂ* along the pipework under the floor.
Â*I've unblocked it, it's all running freely, the smell has gone.
I can't decide if I can be arsed exploring, there's space issues and
much boxing in.
Â*Just wondering what others would do?

Boxing:-) My daughter once had a flat in Shepherds Bush which suffered
from just such pongs. As the elderly leaseholder was reluctant to
bring in professionals, I used expanding foam (fireproof) to close off
the boxing before it entered the flat.

Was there water in the bottom of the pan when the stink was detected?
Some temporary blockages with toilet paper allow the water in the pan
and around the trap to be syphoned out leaving an air passage to the
sewer, and hence the stink. Clearing the blockage and re-filling the
pan/trap with water is the complete cure.

I once worked in a building where one of the toilet blocks was no
longer being used and the water turned off and the door locked.
Within a relatively short period there was a faint unpleasant smell
throughout the building which got worse as the weeks passed. After
much investigation the cause was found to be a absence of water in
the bog traps in this disused toilet.

Vent pipes can *suck* pans dry in very strong winds.


have to be some wind to draw a four inch trap!
did you just make that up ? ....


Why would he? Its happened in my house.

Tim

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On Saturday, January 25, 2020 at 3:22:38 PM UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 25/01/2020 12:43, alan_m wrote:
On 24/01/2020 19:31, R D S wrote:
Bog room was stinking at work, turns out there was a blockage but as
the pan itself wasn't backing up there's plainly scope for leakage
somewhere along the pipework under the floor.

I've unblocked it, it's all running freely, the smell has gone.
I can't decide if I can be arsed exploring, there's space issues and
much boxing in.

Just wondering what others would do?

Was there water in the bottom of the pan when the stink was detected?
Some temporary blockages with toilet paper allow the water in the pan
and around the trap to be syphoned out leaving an air passage to the
sewer, and hence the stink. Clearing the blockage and re-filling the
pan/trap with water is the complete cure.

I once worked in a building where one of the toilet blocks was no longer
being used and the water turned off and the door locked. Within a
relatively short period there was a faint unpleasant smell throughout
the building which got worse as the weeks passed. After much
investigation the cause was found to be a absence of water in the bog
traps in this disused toilet.

that was a clever thing to do...

My toilet has not been sucked dry, but in strong wind the level of the water does drop. I had wondered how every time I saw it. Ta

On 26/01/2020 08:51, Tim+ wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 26/01/2020 04:59, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 25/01/2020 13:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , alan_m
writes
On 24/01/2020 19:31, R D S wrote:
Bog room was stinking at work, turns out there was a blockage but as
theÂ* pan itself wasn't backing up there's plainly scope for leakage
somewhereÂ* along the pipework under the floor.
Â*I've unblocked it, it's all running freely, the smell has gone.
I can't decide if I can be arsed exploring, there's space issues and
much boxing in.
Â*Just wondering what others would do?

Boxing:-) My daughter once had a flat in Shepherds Bush which suffered
from just such pongs. As the elderly leaseholder was reluctant to
bring in professionals, I used expanding foam (fireproof) to close off
the boxing before it entered the flat.

Was there water in the bottom of the pan when the stink was detected?
Some temporary blockages with toilet paper allow the water in the pan
and around the trap to be syphoned out leaving an air passage to the
sewer, and hence the stink. Clearing the blockage and re-filling the
pan/trap with water is the complete cure.

I once worked in a building where one of the toilet blocks was no
longer being used and the water turned off and the door locked.
Within a relatively short period there was a faint unpleasant smell
throughout the building which got worse as the weeks passed. After
much investigation the cause was found to be a absence of water in
the bog traps in this disused toilet.

Vent pipes can *suck* pans dry in very strong winds.


have to be some wind to draw a four inch trap!
did you just make that up ? ....


Why would he? Its happened in my house.

Tim

you mean the negative pressure over the SVP drew the trap?.......don't
believe it

On 26/01/2020 09:19, misterroy wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2020 at 3:22:38 PM UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 25/01/2020 12:43, alan_m wrote:
On 24/01/2020 19:31, R D S wrote:
Bog room was stinking at work, turns out there was a blockage but as
the pan itself wasn't backing up there's plainly scope for leakage
somewhere along the pipework under the floor.

I've unblocked it, it's all running freely, the smell has gone.
I can't decide if I can be arsed exploring, there's space issues and
much boxing in.

Just wondering what others would do?

Was there water in the bottom of the pan when the stink was detected?
Some temporary blockages with toilet paper allow the water in the pan
and around the trap to be syphoned out leaving an air passage to the
sewer, and hence the stink. Clearing the blockage and re-filling the
pan/trap with water is the complete cure.

I once worked in a building where one of the toilet blocks was no longer
being used and the water turned off and the door locked. Within a
relatively short period there was a faint unpleasant smell throughout
the building which got worse as the weeks passed. After much
investigation the cause was found to be a absence of water in the bog
traps in this disused toilet.

that was a clever thing to do...

My toilet has not been sucked dry, but in strong wind the level of the water does drop. I had wondered how every time I saw it. Ta

because there is no such thing...yes you will see the water in the reap
going up and down.....

In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes
On 26/01/2020 09:19, misterroy wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2020 at 3:22:38 PM UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 25/01/2020 12:43, alan_m wrote:
On 24/01/2020 19:31, R D S wrote:
Bog room was stinking at work, turns out there was a blockage but as
the pan itself wasn't backing up there's plainly scope for leakage
somewhere along the pipework under the floor.

I've unblocked it, it's all running freely, the smell has gone.
I can't decide if I can be arsed exploring, there's space issues and
much boxing in.

Just wondering what others would do?

Was there water in the bottom of the pan when the stink was detected?
Some temporary blockages with toilet paper allow the water in the pan
and around the trap to be syphoned out leaving an air passage to the
sewer, and hence the stink. Clearing the blockage and re-filling the
pan/trap with water is the complete cure.

I once worked in a building where one of the toilet blocks was no longer
being used and the water turned off and the door locked. Within a
relatively short period there was a faint unpleasant smell throughout
the building which got worse as the weeks passed. After much
investigation the cause was found to be a absence of water in the bog
traps in this disused toilet.

that was a clever thing to do...
My toilet has not been sucked dry, but in strong wind the level of
the water does drop. I had wondered how every time I saw it. Ta

because there is no such thing...yes you will see the water in the reap
going up and down.....

Something less than 1% pressure difference between your bathroom and the
air passing over your roof can lift 75mm of water.
Evaporation can be in the region of 2.5mm/week.

Clearly the regulations would be changed if this were a regular
occurrence.

--
Tim Lamb

On Sun, 26 Jan 2020 08:51:54 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 26/01/2020 04:59, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 25/01/2020 13:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , alan_m
writes
On 24/01/2020 19:31, R D S wrote:
Bog room was stinking at work, turns out there was a blockage but
as theÂ* pan itself wasn't backing up there's plainly scope for
leakage somewhereÂ* along the pipework under the floor.
Â*I've unblocked it, it's all running freely, the smell has gone.
I can't decide if I can be arsed exploring, there's space issues
and much boxing in.
Â*Just wondering what others would do?

Boxing:-) My daughter once had a flat in Shepherds Bush which
suffered from just such pongs. As the elderly leaseholder was
reluctant to bring in professionals, I used expanding foam
(fireproof) to close off the boxing before it entered the flat.

Was there water in the bottom of the pan when the stink was
detected?
Some temporary blockages with toilet paper allow the water in the
pan and around the trap to be syphoned out leaving an air passage to
the sewer, and hence the stink. Clearing the blockage and re-filling
the pan/trap with water is the complete cure.

I once worked in a building where one of the toilet blocks was no
longer being used and the water turned off and the door locked.
Within a relatively short period there was a faint unpleasant smell
throughout the building which got worse as the weeks passed. After
much investigation the cause was found to be a absence of water in
the bog traps in this disused toilet.

Vent pipes can *suck* pans dry in very strong winds.


have to be some wind to draw a four inch trap!
did you just make that up ? ....


Why would he? Its happened in my house.

And in mine.


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On 26 Jan 2020 12:16:52 GMT
Bob Eager wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2020 08:51:54 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 26/01/2020 04:59, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 25/01/2020 13:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , alan_m
writes
On 24/01/2020 19:31, R D S wrote:
Bog room was stinking at work, turns out there was a blockage
but as theÂ* pan itself wasn't backing up there's plainly scope
for leakage somewhereÂ* along the pipework under the floor.
Â*I've unblocked it, it's all running freely, the smell has
gone. I can't decide if I can be arsed exploring, there's
space issues and much boxing in.
Â*Just wondering what others would do?

Boxing:-) My daughter once had a flat in Shepherds Bush which
suffered from just such pongs. As the elderly leaseholder was
reluctant to bring in professionals, I used expanding foam
(fireproof) to close off the boxing before it entered the flat.

Was there water in the bottom of the pan when the stink was
detected?
Some temporary blockages with toilet paper allow the water in
the pan and around the trap to be syphoned out leaving an air
passage to the sewer, and hence the stink. Clearing the
blockage and re-filling the pan/trap with water is the complete
cure.

I once worked in a building where one of the toilet blocks was
no longer being used and the water turned off and the door
locked. Within a relatively short period there was a faint
unpleasant smell throughout the building which got worse as the
weeks passed. After much investigation the cause was found to
be a absence of water in the bog traps in this disused toilet.

Vent pipes can *suck* pans dry in very strong winds.


have to be some wind to draw a four inch trap!
did you just make that up ? ....


Why would he? Its happened in my house.

And in mine.



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