Just recently I'm finding the connection hanging there and the message queue
does not go. However it still refuses to go if I terminate the email
software and then bring it back up again, but it always goes if I restart
the computer.
My feeling is that something is hanging on to the port and only by
severing all tcp/ip activity by shutting down, can one get it to restart and
send the messages.
It seems not to be an issue on other news servers.
Brian

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On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 10:19:50 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)"
wrote:

Just recently I'm finding the connection hanging there and the message queue
does not go. However it still refuses to go if I terminate the email
software and then bring it back up again, but it always goes if I restart
the computer.
My feeling is that something is hanging on to the port and only by
severing all tcp/ip activity by shutting down, can one get it to restart and
send the messages.
It seems not to be an issue on other news servers.
Brian

It amazes me that people continue to use ES when reliable providers
are available at modest cost.

On 23/11/2019 12:22, Scott wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 10:19:50 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)"
wrote:

Just recently I'm finding the connection hanging there and the message queue
does not go. However it still refuses to go if I terminate the email
software and then bring it back up again, but it always goes if I restart
the computer.
My feeling is that something is hanging on to the port and only by
severing all tcp/ip activity by shutting down, can one get it to restart and
send the messages.
It seems not to be an issue on other news servers.
Brian

It amazes me that people continue to use ES when reliable providers
are available at modest cost.

There writes a man who has never been short of money!

On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 12:27:43 +0000, Broadback
wrote:

On 23/11/2019 12:22, Scott wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 10:19:50 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)"
wrote:

Just recently I'm finding the connection hanging there and the message queue
does not go. However it still refuses to go if I terminate the email
software and then bring it back up again, but it always goes if I restart
the computer.
My feeling is that something is hanging on to the port and only by
severing all tcp/ip activity by shutting down, can one get it to restart and
send the messages.
It seems not to be an issue on other news servers.
Brian

It amazes me that people continue to use ES when reliable providers
are available at modest cost.

There writes a man who has never been short of money!

More to do with priorites, actually. If I can get Usenet for a year
for less than the cost of four cups of coffee, I know what comes
first.

In article ,
Scott wrote:
More to do with priorites, actually. If I can get Usenet for a year
for less than the cost of four cups of coffee, I know what comes
first.

I have NES and AIOE. Both free. Never had an occasion when both were down.

Also rather surprised that anyone considers Usenet a priority these days.
Just a source of amusement.

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

To be fair, it has been reliable so why change?
I'm using albersani now. You say modest cost, but these days we are
increasingly being charged 'modest subscriptions' for lots of things, and I
don't do it any more. Just have a look at the cost of subscribing to all the
tv and stuff like prime etc? I guess News.individual.net is very low, but if
there are free alternatives and one does not want binary groups, it seems
silly to change.
Brian

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On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 10:19:50 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)"
wrote:

Just recently I'm finding the connection hanging there and the message
queue
does not go. However it still refuses to go if I terminate the email
software and then bring it back up again, but it always goes if I restart
the computer.
My feeling is that something is hanging on to the port and only by
severing all tcp/ip activity by shutting down, can one get it to restart
and
send the messages.
It seems not to be an issue on other news servers.
Brian

It amazes me that people continue to use ES when reliable providers
are available at modest cost.

I don't like coffee, have you noticed it always smells better than it
tastes. There are people like that around as well, you know!
Brian

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On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 12:27:43 +0000, Broadback
wrote:

On 23/11/2019 12:22, Scott wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 10:19:50 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)"
wrote:

Just recently I'm finding the connection hanging there and the message
queue
does not go. However it still refuses to go if I terminate the email
software and then bring it back up again, but it always goes if I
restart
the computer.
My feeling is that something is hanging on to the port and only by
severing all tcp/ip activity by shutting down, can one get it to
restart and
send the messages.
It seems not to be an issue on other news servers.
Brian

It amazes me that people continue to use ES when reliable providers
are available at modest cost.

There writes a man who has never been short of money!

More to do with priorites, actually. If I can get Usenet for a year
for less than the cost of four cups of coffee, I know what comes
first.

Well maybe me more than others because it has a simple always the same
interface in software which supports it, more than can be said for web
forums and stuff like that, plus they can and have shut down on a whim,
leaving people with nothing, Usenet just seems to sail on.

Incidentally re your tag line, in parts of the UK they are reintroducing
beavers to build dams to help slow the progress of water downstream to stop
flooding.
Brian

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In article ,
Scott wrote:
More to do with priorites, actually. If I can get Usenet for a year
for less than the cost of four cups of coffee, I know what comes
first.

I have NES and AIOE. Both free. Never had an occasion when both were down.

Also rather surprised that anyone considers Usenet a priority these days.
Just a source of amusement.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote

Just recently I'm finding the connection hanging there and the message
queue does not go. However it still refuses to go if I terminate the email
software and then bring it back up again, but it always goes if I restart
the computer.

Yeah, we have seen a few duplicate posts from
you. But not from others who use that server,
so it does look like some quirk of your system.

But hardly anyone except you and me use WLM
so it may be some quirk of WLM and ET, I don’t
use ET at all, I use news.individual.net

My feeling is that something is hanging on to the port and only by
severing all tcp/ip activity by shutting down, can one get it to restart
and send the messages.

But if its only happening with the dupes, its
more a problem that the ack doesn’t get seen.
In other words it has been seen but your
system doesn’t see it as having been seen.

It seems not to be an issue on other news servers.

So why don’t you use nin instead ?
Its ultra reliable and isnt expensive

On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 03:01:30 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH senile asshole's latest troll****

03:01??? And you've been up and trolling for OVER AN HOUR, yet AGAIN!

Do you know NO shame AT ALL? But then, which true psychopath knows ANY
shame, eh, senile psychopath?

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"Broadback" wrote in message
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On 23/11/2019 12:22, Scott wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 10:19:50 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)"
wrote:

Just recently I'm finding the connection hanging there and the message
queue
does not go. However it still refuses to go if I terminate the email
software and then bring it back up again, but it always goes if I
restart
the computer.
My feeling is that something is hanging on to the port and only by
severing all tcp/ip activity by shutting down, can one get it to restart
and
send the messages.
It seems not to be an issue on other news servers.
Brian

It amazes me that people continue to use ES when reliable providers
are available at modest cost.

There writes a man who has never been short of money!

Thats bull****. I have been short of money and feel
the same way now that I am no longer short of money.

On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 03:34:59 +1100, Ray, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:


That¢s bull****. I have been short of money and feel
the same way now that I am no longer short of money.

NOBODY talked to you, senile Rodent. Things on Usenet are slowly becoming
just like they've always been for you in real life, senile pest!

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"You have mentioned Alexa in a couple of threads recently, it is not a real
woman you know even if it is the only thing with a Female name that stays
around around while you talk it to it.
Poor sad git who has to resort to Usenet and electronic devices for any
interaction as all real people run a mile to get away from from you boring
them to death."
MID:

Broadback used his keyboard to write :
There writes a man who has never been short of money!

There writes a man who has too much money!

On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 13:33:32 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Scott wrote:
More to do with priorites, actually. If I can get Usenet for a year
for less than the cost of four cups of coffee, I know what comes
first.

I have NES and AIOE. Both free. Never had an occasion when both were down.

Also rather surprised that anyone considers Usenet a priority these days.

I do. Irreplaceable at the very least.

Just a source of amusement.

That too.
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On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 12:22:05 +0000, Scott
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 10:19:50 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)"
wrote:

Just recently I'm finding the connection hanging there and the message queue
does not go. However it still refuses to go if I terminate the email
software and then bring it back up again, but it always goes if I restart
the computer.
My feeling is that something is hanging on to the port and only by
severing all tcp/ip activity by shutting down, can one get it to restart and
send the messages.
It seems not to be an issue on other news servers.
Brian

It amazes me that people continue to use ES when reliable providers
are available at modest cost.

I've been using it for many years and never had a problem with it.
Then again I don't demand much of it.
--

Mike

On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 03:34:59 +1100, "Ray" wrote:



"Broadback" wrote in message
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On 23/11/2019 12:22, Scott wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 10:19:50 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)"
wrote:

Just recently I'm finding the connection hanging there and the message
queue
does not go. However it still refuses to go if I terminate the email
software and then bring it back up again, but it always goes if I
restart
the computer.
My feeling is that something is hanging on to the port and only by
severing all tcp/ip activity by shutting down, can one get it to restart
and
send the messages.
It seems not to be an issue on other news servers.
Brian

It amazes me that people continue to use ES when reliable providers
are available at modest cost.

There writes a man who has never been short of money!

That’s bull****. I have been short of money and feel
the same way now that I am no longer short of money.

That's exactly what I find! Same old bowl of porridge and slice of
toast of a morning.
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Mike