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Wheelie Bin Compactors anyone?
Fortnightly collections and small wheelie bins have always caused a bit of
an issue, but now Rother council have decided that bottles have to go in the re-cycling rather than a separate bin thus further reducing bin volume. So I've been looking into 'wheelie bin squashers' Does anyone have a good design or commercial source? Accepting the fact that at my age I'm not going to climb inside the bin and use size 13 boots one of the type that hook on the hinge / handle bit and give mechanical advantage of about 2:1 look sensible, but commercial ones are working out at about £45 and come from Germany anyway ! I invite comments from those with personal experience Andrew |
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"Jethro_uk" wrote in message ...
On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:54:05 +0100, Andrew Mawson wrote: Fortnightly collections and small wheelie bins have always caused a bit of an issue, but now Rother council have decided that bottles have to go in the re-cycling rather than a separate bin thus further reducing bin volume. So I've been looking into 'wheelie bin squashers' Does anyone have a good design or commercial source? Accepting the fact that at my age I'm not going to climb inside the bin and use size 13 boots one of the type that hook on the hinge / handle bit and give mechanical advantage of about 2:1 look sensible, but commercial ones are working out at about £45 and come from Germany anyway ! I invite comments from those with personal experience Andrew I'd be concerned about breaking the bin - they're not that sturdy. Also will the wagon be able to physically lift the more dense bin ? The ones I've seen appear to rely on a jerk rather than a smooth progression (which will add to the strain on the lifting handle). Returning to the question, something like a brick on a stick might do it ? Or a metal patio umbrella base on a pole. In either case open lid, and repeated "thwack" until flat. Something like this I had in mind: https://tinyurl.com/y4laz6se Andrew |
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On Wednesday, 25 September 2019 14:54:06 UTC+1, Andrew Mawson wrote:
Fortnightly collections and small wheelie bins have always caused a bit of an issue, but now Rother council have decided that bottles have to go in the re-cycling rather than a separate bin thus further reducing bin volume. I can't see on their website, but will they let you have an additional recycling bin? Otherwise they do say you can leave flattened cardboard or other recycling next to the bin in carriers or clear bags. I don't think any of the domestic 'squashers' will do much with glass bottles, you'd need an industrial crusher to make a difference in volume. Owain Owain |
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On 25/09/2019 15:27, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:54:05 +0100, Andrew Mawson wrote: Fortnightly collections and small wheelie bins have always caused a bit of an issue, but now Rother council have decided that bottles have to go in the re-cycling rather than a separate bin thus further reducing bin volume. So I've been looking into 'wheelie bin squashers' Does anyone have a good design or commercial source? Accepting the fact that at my age I'm not going to climb inside the bin and use size 13 boots one of the type that hook on the hinge / handle bit and give mechanical advantage of about 2:1 look sensible, but commercial ones are working out at about £45 and come from Germany anyway ! I invite comments from those with personal experience Andrew I'd be concerned about breaking the bin - they're not that sturdy. Also will the wagon be able to physically lift the more dense bin ? The ones I've seen appear to rely on a jerk rather than a smooth progression (which will add to the strain on the lifting handle). Returning to the question, something like a brick on a stick might do it ? Or a metal patio umbrella base on a pole. In either case open lid, and repeated "thwack" until flat. Plastic bottles are easy to flatten. When you boil a kettle, pour a beaker full of the excess not used for tea into the milk/coke bottle or whatever, put the cap on, give it quick swirl and poor out the contents. While it still almost too hot to touch, flatten it with a bit of cardboard for few seconds. Voila a flat bottle. Glass bottles, just smash them up. Not much comes in glass these days anyway unless you are wino. |
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On 25/09/2019 16:05, Chris Hogg wrote:
My garden waste recycling bin is often brim full and compacted by two-foot-power, Just snip the woody stuff up into easily compressible fragments. |
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"Andrew" wrote in message ...
On 25/09/2019 16:05, Chris Hogg wrote: My garden waste recycling bin is often brim full and compacted by two-foot-power, Just snip the woody stuff up into easily compressible fragments. Green waste is no problem, everything is composted (we are on a small farm). Before Rother changed their sub-contractor they would take extra bags of recycling and flattened card board left next to the bin, but the new lot have refused and just left it all with a snotty note I'd like to incinerate cardboard but the clinging smell of smouldering cardboard is not nice for our guests in the holiday cottages . Hence looking for a squisher ! Andrew |
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On 25/09/2019 17:18, Andrew Mawson wrote:
"Andrew"Â* wrote in message ... On 25/09/2019 16:05, Chris Hogg wrote: My garden waste recycling bin is often brim full and compacted by two-foot-power, Just snip the woody stuff up into easily compressible fragments. Green waste is no problem, everything is composted (we are on a small farm). Before Rother changed their sub-contractor they would take extra bags of recycling and flattened card board left next to the bin, but the new lot have refused and just left it all with a snotty note I'd like to incinerate cardboard but the clinging smell of smouldering cardboard is not nice for our guests in the holiday cottages . Hence looking for a squisher ! Andrew You can mulch up cardboard with other green waste and simply compost it along with whatever vegetarian animal poo you have access to. |
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On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 5:25:37 PM UTC+1, Andrew wrote:
On 25/09/2019 17:18, Andrew Mawson wrote: "Andrew"Â* wrote in message ... On 25/09/2019 16:05, Chris Hogg wrote: My garden waste recycling bin is often brim full and compacted by two-foot-power, Just snip the woody stuff up into easily compressible fragments. Green waste is no problem, everything is composted (we are on a small farm). Before Rother changed their sub-contractor they would take extra bags of recycling and flattened card board left next to the bin, but the new lot have refused and just left it all with a snotty note I'd like to incinerate cardboard but the clinging smell of smouldering cardboard is not nice for our guests in the holiday cottages . Hence looking for a squisher ! Andrew You can mulch up cardboard with other green waste and simply compost it along with whatever vegetarian animal poo you have access to. For the plastic bottles, you can always remove the cap, squash it and then put the cap back on. Since air can't get in it will stay in its flattened state. Can also crush drinks cans before they go in. |
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Andrew Mawson wrote:
I've been looking into 'wheelie bin squashers' Our council has said they don't like stuff to be folded, flattened and squashed in the recycling bin, as it frustrates the automatic sorting equipment .. |
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Andy Burns has brought this to us :
Our council has said they don't like stuff to be folded, flattened and squashed in the recycling bin, as it frustrates the automatic sorting equipment .. Our council ays the don't mind boxes flattened and torn up to get more in the bin. We don't usually generate much waste anyway, about 1/3 to 1/2 full usually when each (small size) is emptied every alternate week.. |
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On Wednesday, 25 September 2019 17:25:37 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:
On 25/09/2019 17:18, Andrew Mawson wrote: "Andrew"Â* wrote in message ... On 25/09/2019 16:05, Chris Hogg wrote: My garden waste recycling bin is often brim full and compacted by two-foot-power, Just snip the woody stuff up into easily compressible fragments. Green waste is no problem, everything is composted (we are on a small farm). Before Rother changed their sub-contractor they would take extra bags of recycling and flattened card board left next to the bin, but the new lot have refused and just left it all with a snotty note I'd like to incinerate cardboard but the clinging smell of smouldering cardboard is not nice for our guests in the holiday cottages . Hence looking for a squisher ! Andrew You can mulch up cardboard with other green waste and simply compost it along with whatever vegetarian animal poo you have access to. You can also shred it & use as cat litter. Little domestic shredders typically want it cutting into strips narrower than A4, look for the slowest feed rate to get the greatest torque. NT |
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On 25/09/2019 18:33, Lee Nowell wrote:
On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 5:25:37 PM UTC+1, Andrew wrote: On 25/09/2019 17:18, Andrew Mawson wrote: "Andrew"Â* wrote in message ... On 25/09/2019 16:05, Chris Hogg wrote: My garden waste recycling bin is often brim full and compacted by two-foot-power, Just snip the woody stuff up into easily compressible fragments. Green waste is no problem, everything is composted (we are on a small farm). Before Rother changed their sub-contractor they would take extra bags of recycling and flattened card board left next to the bin, but the new lot have refused and just left it all with a snotty note I'd like to incinerate cardboard but the clinging smell of smouldering cardboard is not nice for our guests in the holiday cottages . Hence looking for a squisher ! Andrew You can mulch up cardboard with other green waste and simply compost it along with whatever vegetarian animal poo you have access to. For the plastic bottles, you can always remove the cap, squash it and then put the cap back on. Since air can't get in it will stay in its flattened state. Can also crush drinks cans before they go in. Except that many councils reject recycling bins with the lids in, because they are made of a different type of plastic. I hav often thought that some sort of shredder would make sense for plastic bottles. SteveW |
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On 25/09/2019 19:12, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Andy Burns has brought this to us : Our council has said they don't like stuff to be folded, flattened and squashed in the recycling bin, as it frustrates the automatic sorting equipment .. Our council ays the don't mind boxes flattened and torn up to get more in the bin. We don't usually generate much waste anyway, about 1/3 to 1/2 full usually when each (small size) is emptied every alternate week.. We have 240l recycling bins, but they are only collected once a month and we are a household of 5, so both our black bin (platic bottles, glass, tins, tin-foil) and our blue bin (paper can card) can get quite full. SteveW |
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On 25/09/2019 16:05, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:27:03 -0000 (UTC), Jethro_uk wrote: On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:54:05 +0100, Andrew Mawson wrote: Fortnightly collections and small wheelie bins have always caused a bit of an issue, but now Rother council have decided that bottles have to go in the re-cycling rather than a separate bin thus further reducing bin volume. So I've been looking into 'wheelie bin squashers' Does anyone have a good design or commercial source? Accepting the fact that at my age I'm not going to climb inside the bin and use size 13 boots one of the type that hook on the hinge / handle bit and give mechanical advantage of about 2:1 look sensible, but commercial ones are working out at about £45 and come from Germany anyway ! I invite comments from those with personal experience Andrew I'd be concerned about breaking the bin - they're not that sturdy. Also will the wagon be able to physically lift the more dense bin ? The ones I've seen appear to rely on a jerk rather than a smooth progression (which will add to the strain on the lifting handle). My garden waste recycling bin is often brim full and compacted by two-foot-power, and gets very heavy, but the lorry seems to cope OK. Having said that, the bin has split down one side, I suspect due to my overly enthusiastic compaction methods, and I've 'stitched' it to hold it together, so the OP needs to be careful he doesn't over-do the compaction. A few weeks back we had a sudden windfall of pears, and ultimately there was not much could be done with them but use a snow shovel to load them into the green bin. Pretty much filled it! It must of been well over 50kg of them and it was a ******* to wheel out. The the lorry seemed to empty it with ease. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 25/09/2019 14:54, Andrew Mawson wrote:
Fortnightly collections and small wheelie bins have always caused a bit of an issue, but now Rother council have decided that bottles have to go in the re-cycling rather than a separate bin thus further reducing bin volume. So I've been looking into 'wheelie bin squashers' Does anyone have a good design or commercial source? Accepting the fact that at my age I'm not going to climb inside the bin and use size 13 boots one of the type that hook on the hinge / handle bit and give mechanical advantage of about 2:1 look sensible, but commercial ones are working out at about £45 and come from Germany anyway ! I invite comments from those with personal experienceÂ* You could try something like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysr9yOY53bk -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Brian Gaff formulated on Thursday :
apparently the newer vehicles can only handle this size of bins these days. Its about time these waste collecting outfits put their heads together and got a standard sorted out. That is a standard isn't it? All the bin sizes are the same height, to suit mechanical emptying, but their width/capacity varies. The only way they could accept smaller than the standard, is by making the bins narrower, which would make them unstable. |
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On 25/09/2019 17:25, Andrew wrote:
You can mulch up cardboard with other green waste and simply compost it along with whatever vegetarian animal poo you have access to. I compost card but am finding these days more card has a plastic film layer which doesn't compost. There also seems to be a lot of waxed card which is somewhat waterproof and takes a long time to break down in a compost heap. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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In article a24b7410-492d-41de-a93a-639f556c6660
@googlegroups.com, says... For the plastic bottles, you can always remove the cap, squash it and then put the cap back on. Since air can't get in it will stay in its flattened state. Can also crush drinks cans before they go in. Both here and where we used to live, instructions are to remove all caps and put them in the recycling separately. Never had a problem with them springing back into shape, anyway. -- Terry --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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In article , steve@walker-
family.me.uk says... Except that many councils reject recycling bins with the lids in, because they are made of a different type of plastic. If we're talking milk bottles here, I haven't seen one this century with the cap made of a different material - only the colour is different. I hav often thought that some sort of shredder would make sense for plastic bottles. Might make it difficult for sorting at the recycling site, though. -- Terry --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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On 26/09/2019 09:40, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 09:30:52 +0100, Harry Bloomfield, Esq. wrote: Brian Gaff formulated on Thursday : apparently the newer vehicles can only handle this size of bins these days. Its about time these waste collecting outfits put their heads together and got a standard sorted out. That is a standard isn't it? All the bin sizes are the same height, to suit mechanical emptying, but their width/capacity varies. The only way they could accept smaller than the standard, is by making the bins narrower, which would make them unstable. ITYM *more* unstable ... :-) Yup you have to be careful with our non recylceables bin - its the same height and depth as a full sized bin, but only about two thirds the width. Net result it has a tendency to want to tip to the side when wheeled over rough ground, and try and twist your wrist off! -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Wednesday, 25 September 2019 17:00:46 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:
Glass bottles, just smash them up. Not much comes in glass these days anyway unless you are wino. you're not suposed to put broken glass in recycle bins because of the risk to collectors. |
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On 25/09/2019 16:05, Chris Hogg wrote:
My garden waste recycling bin is often brim full and compacted by two-foot-power, and gets very heavy, but the lorry seems to cope OK. Having said that, the bin has split down one side, I suspect due to my overly enthusiastic compaction methods, and I've 'stitched' it to hold it together, so the OP needs to be careful he doesn't over-do the compaction. I use a spade. It's a combination squasher and chopper. One of our garden bins has split, and I'm pretty sure it was done by the lorry... Andy |
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On 26/09/2019 11:34, Terry Casey wrote:
In article , steve@walker- family.me.uk says... Except that many councils reject recycling bins with the lids in, because they are made of a different type of plastic. If we're talking milk bottles here, I haven't seen one this century with the cap made of a different material - only the colour is different. 2 litre fizzy water bottles in particular and some other fizzy drink/cordial bottles. I hav often thought that some sort of shredder would make sense for plastic bottles. Might make it difficult for sorting at the recycling site, though. How do they sort? I know it is automated (that's why black ready meal trays can't easily be recycled, as the systems can't see them). I assume that they use different frequencies of "light" and the different plastics show up differently. Separate peices rather than whole bottles should stil be sortable. I am not talking about cross-cut shredding into tiny pieces. Pieces a couple of inches square would probably be small enough to pack together well and large enough to be sorted. SteveW |
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On 26/09/2019 13:19, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 25 September 2019 17:00:46 UTC+1, Andrew wrote: Glass bottles, just smash them up. Not much comes in glass these days anyway unless you are wino. you're not suposed to put broken glass in recycle bins because of the risk to collectors. What risk? The bins are wheeled, with the lid closed; picked up by the machine and emptied into the wagon - glass is likely to break during tipping into the wagon anyway. SteveW |
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"Jethro_uk" wrote in message ... On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 12:41:42 +0100, John Rumm wrote: On 26/09/2019 09:40, Jethro_uk wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 09:30:52 +0100, Harry Bloomfield, Esq. wrote: Brian Gaff formulated on Thursday : apparently the newer vehicles can only handle this size of bins these days. Its about time these waste collecting outfits put their heads together and got a standard sorted out. That is a standard isn't it? All the bin sizes are the same height, to suit mechanical emptying, but their width/capacity varies. The only way they could accept smaller than the standard, is by making the bins narrower, which would make them unstable. ITYM *more* unstable ... :-) Yup you have to be careful with our non recylceables bin - its the same height and depth as a full sized bin, but only about two thirds the width. Net result it has a tendency to want to tip to the side when wheeled over rough ground, and try and twist your wrist off! I was thinking of how easily they blow over when empty. Not sure quite how the movement of refuse lorries creates such a predictable micro climate, but it seems to get gustier immediately after the bins have been emptied, and are left on the footpath to blow onto their sides into the road ... Its much more likely that they are easier to blow over when empty. |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 10:42:02 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Its much more likely that they are easier to blow over when empty. You felt again that someone wanted to hear your senile opinion, you senile asshole troll from Oz? BG -- Marland revealing the senile sociopath's pathology: "You have mentioned Alexa in a couple of threads recently, it is not a real woman you know even if it is the only thing with a Female name that stays around around while you talk it to it. Poor sad git who has to resort to Usenet and electronic devices for any interaction as all real people run a mile to get away from from you boring them to death." MID: |
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On 25/09/2019 23:07, Steve Walker wrote:
On 25/09/2019 18:33, Lee Nowell wrote: On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 5:25:37 PM UTC+1, Andrew wrote: On 25/09/2019 17:18, Andrew Mawson wrote: "Andrew"Â* wrote in message ... On 25/09/2019 16:05, Chris Hogg wrote: My garden waste recycling bin is often brim full and compacted by two-foot-power, Just snip the woody stuff up into easily compressible fragments. Green waste is no problem, everything is composted (we are on a small farm). Before Rother changed their sub-contractor they would take extra bags of recycling and flattened card board left next to the bin, but the new lot have refused and just left it all with a snotty note I'd like to incinerate cardboard but the clinging smell of smouldering cardboard is not nice for our guests in the holiday cottages . Hence looking for a squisher ! Andrew You can mulch up cardboard with other green waste and simply compost it along with whatever vegetarian animal poo you have access to. For the plastic bottles, you can always remove the cap, squash it and then put the cap back on.Â* Since air can't get in it will stay in its flattened state.Â* Can also crush drinks cans before they go in. Except that many councils reject recycling bins with the lids in, because they are made of a different type of plastic. I hav often thought that some sort of shredder would make sense for plastic bottles. SteveW Flattening plastic milk bottle and PET drinks bottles is easy. Just rinse out, then when you have the kettle on for a drink, pour a beaker full of hot water (i.e. more than hand hot so over the thermoplastic setting temperature), put the lid on give a quick shake, pour out the water and flatten the container. Within seconds it cools and stays flattened. |
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On 27/09/2019 00:07, Steve Walker wrote:
On 26/09/2019 11:34, Terry Casey wrote: In article , steve@walker- family.me.uk says... Except that many councils reject recycling bins with the lids in, because they are made of a different type of plastic. If we're talking milk bottles here, I haven't seen one this century with the cap made of a different material - only the colour is different. # Also remove any outer plastic wrap used to decorate some PET drinks containers. Apparently coloured PET bottle are NOT wanted by the recyclers. only clear PET is recyclable. 2 litre fizzy water bottles in particular and some other fizzy drink/cordial bottles. I hav often thought that some sort of shredder would make sense for plastic bottles. Might make it difficult for sorting at the recycling site, though. How do they sort? I know it is automated (that's why black ready meal trays can't easily be recycled, as the systems can't see them). I assume that they use different frequencies of "light" and the different plastics show up differently. Separate peices rather than whole bottles should stil be sortable. I am not talking about cross-cut shredding into tiny pieces. Pieces a couple of inches square would probably be small enough to pack together well and large enough to be sorted. SteveW |
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On 26/09/2019 11:04, alan_m wrote:
On 25/09/2019 17:25, Andrew wrote: You can mulch up cardboard with other green waste and simply compost it along with whatever vegetarian animal poo you have access to. I compost card but am finding these days more card has a plastic film layer which doesn't compost. There also seems to be a lot of waxed card which is somewhat waterproof and takes a long time to break down in a compost heap. Yes, annoying. Higgidy pies still have plastic windows that can be pulled off and recycled with bread bags etc (where possible) leaving the cardboard to be recycled as normal. They even have the instructions on the box !. All supermarket sandwich containers now seem to be made of cardboard with a polythene film laminated all over it, like takeaway coffee cups, so cannot be recycled in most places. |
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On 27/09/2019 13:47, Andrew wrote:
On 27/09/2019 00:07, Steve Walker wrote: On 26/09/2019 11:34, Terry Casey wrote: In article , steve@walker- family.me.uk says... Except that many councils reject recycling bins with the lids in, because they are made of a different type of plastic. If we're talking milk bottles here, I haven't seen one this century with the cap made of a different material - only the colour is different. # Also remove any outer plastic wrap used to decorate some PET drinks containers. Apparently coloured PET bottle are NOT wanted by the recyclers. only clear PET is recyclable. 2 litre fizzy water bottles in particular and some other fizzy drink/cordial bottles. I hav often thought that some sort of shredder would make sense for plastic bottles. Might make it difficult for sorting at the recycling site, though. How do they sort? I know it is automated (that's why black ready meal trays can't easily be recycled, as the systems can't see them). I assume that they use different frequencies of "light" and the different plastics show up differently. Separate peices rather than whole bottles should stil be sortable. I am not talking about cross-cut shredding into tiny pieces. Pieces a couple of inches square would probably be small enough to pack together well and large enough to be sorted. SteveW One of my complaints is the lack of information on what we might to make things better for recycling. For example it is trivial to remove the polythene cap from PET bottles, and not much work to take of the remains of the PE locking ring as well. We have an incinerator opening soon and the offer of "tours". This will be one of my questions! Another irritation is that there seems to be no central guidance on moving towards a consistent strategy across the country. |
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On 27/09/2019 00:09, Steve Walker wrote:
On 26/09/2019 13:19, whisky-dave wrote: On Wednesday, 25 September 2019 17:00:46 UTC+1, AndrewÂ* wrote: Glass bottles, just smash them up. Not much comes in glass these days anyway unless you are wino. you're not suposed to put broken glass in recycle bins because of the risk to collectors. What risk? The bins are wheeled, with the lid closed; picked up by the machine and emptied into the wagon - glass is likely to break during tipping into the wagon anyway. SteveW Escpecially when the hydraulic ram squashes the lorry contents after every bin is tipped in ! |
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On 26/09/2019 12:41, John Rumm wrote:
Yup you have to be careful with our non recylceables bin - its the same height and depth as a full sized bin, but only about two thirds the width. Net result it has a tendency to want to tip to the side when wheeled over rough ground, and try and twist your wrist off! try pushing it with both hands :-) |
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newshound wrote:
We have an incinerator opening soon and the offer of "tours". This will be one of my questions! Will an incinerator care that much about what plastics are separated, provided it burns? |
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On 27/09/2019 14:10, Andy Burns wrote:
newshound wrote: We have an incinerator opening soon and the offer of "tours". This will be one of my questions! Will an incinerator care that much about what plastics are separated, provided it burns? Doesn't even matter if it doesn't 'burn' provided it decomposes... The idea is to get down to as little ash as possible, and hope it isn't toxic. -- "Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) " Alan Sokal |
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On 27/09/2019 13:59, Andrew wrote:
On 26/09/2019 12:41, John Rumm wrote: Yup you have to be careful with our non recylceables bin - its the same height and depth as a full sized bin, but only about two thirds the width. Net result it has a tendency to want to tip to the side when wheeled over rough ground, and try and twist your wrist off! try pushing it with both hands :-) Pushing does not really work over uneven ground... -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 27/09/2019 13:55, newshound wrote:
On 27/09/2019 13:47, Andrew wrote: On 27/09/2019 00:07, Steve Walker wrote: On 26/09/2019 11:34, Terry Casey wrote: In article , steve@walker- family.me.uk says... Except that many councils reject recycling bins with the lids in, because they are made of a different type of plastic. If we're talking milk bottles here, I haven't seen one this century with the cap made of a different material - only the colour is different. # Also remove any outer plastic wrap used to decorate some PET drinks containers. Apparently coloured PET bottle are NOT wanted by the recyclers. only clear PET is recyclable. 2 litre fizzy water bottles in particular and some other fizzy drink/cordial bottles. I hav often thought that some sort of shredder would make sense for plastic bottles. Might make it difficult for sorting at the recycling site, though. How do they sort? I know it is automated (that's why black ready meal trays can't easily be recycled, as the systems can't see them). I assume that they use different frequencies of "light" and the different plastics show up differently. Separate peices rather than whole bottles should stil be sortable. I am not talking about cross-cut shredding into tiny pieces. Pieces a couple of inches square would probably be small enough to pack together well and large enough to be sorted. SteveW One of my complaints is the lack of information on what we might to make things better for recycling. For example it is trivial to remove the polythene cap from PET bottles, and not much work to take of the remains of the PE locking ring as well. We have an incinerator opening soon and the offer of "tours". This will be one of my questions! Another irritation is that there seems to be no central guidance on moving towards a consistent strategy across the country. I would guess that part of the difficulty is the recycling facilities available vary with region, so the options change necessarily with region as well. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 27/09/2019 13:54, Andrew wrote:
On 26/09/2019 11:04, alan_m wrote: On 25/09/2019 17:25, Andrew wrote: You can mulch up cardboard with other green waste and simply compost it along with whatever vegetarian animal poo you have access to. I compost card but am finding these days more card has a plastic film layer which doesn't compost. There also seems to be a lot of waxed card which is somewhat waterproof and takes a long time to break down in a compost heap. Yes, annoying. Higgidy pies still have plastic windows that can be pulled off and recycled with bread bags etc (where possible) leaving the cardboard to be recycled as normal. They even have the instructions on the box !. Our recycling scheme will take boxes with windows still in place... -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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