Hi,

I have a aluminium/glass internal door with a 3 or 5 leaver Union
lock. When I tried to open the door this morning, the key broke. The
broken part is stuck inside the lock. I don't have a spare key. How do
I open the door without paying £75 to a locksmiths?.

Thanks for any suggestions/ideas/tips.

Lasitha

Lasitha wrote:
Hi,

I have a aluminium/glass internal door with a 3 or 5 leaver Union
lock. When I tried to open the door this morning, the key broke. The
broken part is stuck inside the lock. I don't have a spare key. How do
I open the door without paying £75 to a locksmiths?.

Thanks for any suggestions/ideas/tips.


Drill the barrel out with a 10mm drill bit, then replace the lock.

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On 24/02/2004 Lasitha a wrote :
I have a aluminium/glass internal door with a 3 or 5 leaver Union
lock. When I tried to open the door this morning, the key broke. The
broken part is stuck inside the lock. I don't have a spare key. How do
I open the door without paying £75 to a locksmiths?.

Your only options are to try to get the broken bit out, perhaps with a
pair of long nosed pliers, to attack the door frame or the door itself
which ever might prove the cheaper to repair.

If you can get the broken bit out, you should be able to then get a new
key made up which hopefully will not break.

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Harry Bloomfield wrote:
On 24/02/2004 Lasitha a wrote :

I have a aluminium/glass internal door with a 3 or 5 leaver Union
lock. When I tried to open the door this morning, the key broke. The
broken part is stuck inside the lock. I don't have a spare key. How do
I open the door without paying £75 to a locksmiths?.


Your only options are to try to get the broken bit out, perhaps with a
pair of long nosed pliers, to attack the door frame or the door itself
which ever might prove the cheaper to repair.

If you can get the broken bit out, you should be able to then get a new
key made up which hopefully will not break.

You may be able to get the broken bit out by putting a blob of superglue
on the end of he bit you're left with and inserting it into the lock.
It gets stuck to the broken bit and hey presto you remove the key.

Nick

You may be able to get the broken bit out by putting a blob of superglue
on the end of he bit you're left with and inserting it into the lock.
It gets stuck to the broken bit and hey presto you remove the key.

That`s precisely what I did with a broken Yale key a couple of years
ago...Simple but effective

" On 24/02/2004 Lasitha a wrote :

I have a aluminium/glass internal door with a 3 or 5 leaver Union
lock. When I tried to open the door this morning, the key broke. The
broken part is stuck inside the lock. I don't have a spare key. How
do
I open the door without paying £75 to a locksmiths?.


Your only options are to try to get the broken bit out, perhaps with a
pair of long nosed pliers, to attack the door frame or the door itself
which ever might prove the cheaper to repair.

If you can get the broken bit out, you should be able to then get a
new
key made up which hopefully will not break.

You may be able to get the broken bit out by putting a blob of superglue
on the end of he bit you're left with and inserting it into the lock.
It gets stuck to the broken bit and hey presto you remove the key.

Nick


Quite often possible to jiggle the bust bit out with needle/tweezers
combo.

Pete

This is a lever lock guys not a yale lock,if it is possible for a jigsaw
blade to fit between door and frame then use a metal cutting blade,and cut
through the bolt ,it works for me everytime,although it may not work on
expensive locks like chubb as they have rollers in side the bolts.

"Alex" wrote in message
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This is a lever lock guys not a yale lock,if it is possible for a jigsaw
blade to fit between door and frame then use a metal cutting blade,and cut
through the bolt ,it works for me everytime,although it may not work on
expensive locks like chubb as they have rollers in side the bolts.

Thanks for the suggestions.

I tried to take out the broken part of the key, but it just won't come out.
Given that the door is still locked, I guess the only option is to cut the
bolt with a hacksaw or a jigsaw. There's enough room between the frame and
the door to get a hacksaw/jigsaw.

How would a locksmiths open it?.

Lasitha

"Lasitha" wrote in message


How would a locksmiths open it?.

First off he'd get the old key out with an assortment of tools -some
home made. Whichever one suits the job. Then he would fiddle with the
mechanism using another assortment of tools called picks from their
shape. He has to know how the levers work on the lock and how many there
are and how to lift each of them off the bolt so that it can be opened.

And while it is all in the air like that, he has to pull the bolt back.
The alternative is to risk damage to the door and frame and to ruin
either the hinges or the lock whichever is the easiest/cheapest.


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"Lasitha" wrote in message .

How would a locksmiths open it?.

They just told you.

Regards, NT

(Lasitha) wrote in message . com...
Hi,

I have a aluminium/glass internal door with a 3 or 5 leaver Union
lock. When I tried to open the door this morning, the key broke. The
broken part is stuck inside the lock. I don't have a spare key. How do
I open the door without paying £75 to a locksmiths?.

Thanks for any suggestions/ideas/tips.

Lasitha

I tried cutting the bolt with a jigsaw. I couldn't cut the middle
part. So I decided to call a locksmiths. He had to struggle for one
hour to cut the bolt.

Lasitha

"Lasitha" wrote in message
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(Lasitha) wrote in message
. com...
Hi,

I have a aluminium/glass internal door with a 3 or 5 leaver Union
lock. When I tried to open the door this morning, the key broke. The
broken part is stuck inside the lock. I don't have a spare key. How
do
I open the door without paying £75 to a locksmiths?.

Thanks for any suggestions/ideas/tips.

Lasitha

I tried cutting the bolt with a jigsaw. I couldn't cut the middle
part. So I decided to call a locksmiths. He had to struggle for one
hour to cut the bolt.

Lasitha

Just as long as he didn't have to struggle for 1 hour 2 minutes, and
thereby unfortunately need to charge for the second hour...

Neil

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"Lasitha" wrote in message
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(Lasitha) wrote in message
. com...
Hi,

I have a aluminium/glass internal door with a 3 or 5 leaver Union
lock. When I tried to open the door this morning, the key broke. The
broken part is stuck inside the lock. I don't have a spare key. How
do
I open the door without paying £75 to a locksmiths?.

Thanks for any suggestions/ideas/tips.

Lasitha

I tried cutting the bolt with a jigsaw. I couldn't cut the middle
part. So I decided to call a locksmiths. He had to struggle for one
hour to cut the bolt.

Lasitha

Just as long as he didn't have to struggle for 1 hour 2 minutes, and
thereby unfortunately need to charge for the second hour...

No, this guy quoted me £45 all inclusive. All the others wanted £55/hour +
vat. Paying by the hour would have been expensive.

Lasitha

On 24 Feb 2004 03:32:19 -0800, (Lasitha) wrote:
Hi,

I have a aluminium/glass internal door with a 3 or 5 leaver Union
lock. When I tried to open the door this morning, the key broke. The
broken part is stuck inside the lock. I don't have a spare key. How do
I open the door without paying £75 to a locksmiths?.

Thanks for any suggestions/ideas/tips.

Do you know any accomplished cat burglers ?

Rick

Don't you wish you had given it the odd shot of WD40 when it started to get
stiff!

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John (preventative maintenance smart arse)


"Rick Dipper" wrote in message
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On 24 Feb 2004 03:32:19 -0800, (Lasitha) wrote:
Hi,

I have a aluminium/glass internal door with a 3 or 5 leaver Union
lock. When I tried to open the door this morning, the key broke. The
broken part is stuck inside the lock. I don't have a spare key. How do
I open the door without paying £75 to a locksmiths?.

Thanks for any suggestions/ideas/tips.

Do you know any accomplished cat burglers ?

Rick





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"John" john.plant90@NO-SPAMntlworldDOTcom wrote in message
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Don't you wish you had given it the odd shot of WD40 when it started to
get
stiff!

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John (preventative maintenance smart arse)


"Rick Dipper" wrote in message
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On 24 Feb 2004 03:32:19 -0800, (Lasitha) wrote:
Hi,

I have a aluminium/glass internal door with a 3 or 5 leaver Union
lock. When I tried to open the door this morning, the key broke. The
broken part is stuck inside the lock. I don't have a spare key. How do
I open the door without paying £75 to a locksmiths?.

Thanks for any suggestions/ideas/tips.

Do you know any accomplished cat burglers ?

Rick

I did, it didn't make any difference.

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:49:09 -0000, "John"
john.plant90@NO-SPAMntlworldDOTcom wrote:

Don't you wish you had given it the odd shot of WD40 when it started to get
stiff!


Not recommended. Powdered graphite is best. WD40 is a water dispersant
first and foremost.

Paul Mc Cann

Powdered graphite! - yes - but where do you find it - and the problem may
not be just with the lock but also with the levers that operate the catch.
Any lubrication is better than nothing.
Unfortunately the oil can and dab of grease seems to have become redundant -
but many houses have knackered garage door mechanisms, squeaky taps, stiff
door catches, worn hinges, etc - and then there is the car.....!

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John


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On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:49:09 -0000, "John"
john.plant90@NO-SPAMntlworldDOTcom wrote:

Don't you wish you had given it the odd shot of WD40 when it started to
get
stiff!


Not recommended. Powdered graphite is best. WD40 is a water dispersant
first and foremost.

Paul Mc Cann

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 22:49:21 UTC, "John"
john.plant90@NO-SPAMntlworldDOTcom wrote:

Powdered graphite! - yes - but where do you find it

Bought the last little puffer pack from CPC...lasts ages!



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Bob Eager wrote:

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 22:49:21 UTC, "John"
john.plant90@NO-SPAMntlworldDOTcom wrote:


Powdered graphite! - yes - but where do you find it


Bought the last little puffer pack from CPC...lasts ages!

Or, in an emergency, scrape the lead of a pencil (remember those? g).


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wrote:
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:49:09 -0000, "John"
john.plant90@NO-SPAMntlworldDOTcom wrote:

Don't you wish you had given it the odd shot of WD40 when it started to get
stiff!


Not recommended. Powdered graphite is best. WD40 is a water dispersant
first and foremost.

Recommended for some locks.
(last padlock I bought, on the back)