The thread on HDMI streaming menntioned streaming TV boxes, so I got
interssted and did some research.

And came up with TVheadend - a TV server that can read a DVB card or
dongle and allow streaming of TV programs to suitable clients.

So I installed in on my Liniux Mint Server and yes, it works pretty well.


Howver, be warned, this installation for me was everything that gives
Linux a bad name. The code would not install without some manual
installation having to be done.

And the instructions were totally opaque. Definitely written by a
progranmmer for other programmers.

BUT it works . I can watch TV on any computer on the network that has
VLC installed, and indeed after installation of the appropiate 'app',
on my friggin smart phone.

And recording is a doddle too.

So its a great DIY replacement for a TV stremaing box+PVR but not for
the faint heraterd. You can however download a complete OS installation
that takes out some of the pain and will allow an obsolete PC to become
a video server.


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who talks little,When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,They will say,
€œWe did this ourselves.€�

ۥ Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 12:20:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

The thread on HDMI streaming menntioned streaming TV boxes, so I got
interssted and did some research.

And came up with TVheadend - a TV server that can read a DVB card or
dongle and allow streaming of TV programs to suitable clients.

So I installed in on my Liniux Mint Server and yes, it works pretty well.


Howver, be warned, this installation for me was everything that gives
Linux a bad name. The code would not install without some manual
installation having to be done.

And the instructions were totally opaque. Definitely written by a
progranmmer for other programmers.

snip

At last some truth / honesty from TNP!

Yes, Linux is good, if you are interested in programming as a hobby or
are happy to take it as it comes.

If you want to get on with your day (in 2019) with an OS that lets you
do most things from the GUI, that represents 70% of the desktops in
the world, then it has to be Windows (assuming you want the
flexibility and vfm you don't get with OSX).

I couldn't get Linux to see my TV card and wasn't going to buy one
just to placate Linux, especially when Windows sees it fine (after
all, it was 'Designed for Windows). ;-)

Cheers, T i m

On 15/06/2019 12:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
The thread on HDMI streaming menntioned streaming TV boxes, so I got
interssted and did some research.

And came up with TVheadend - a TV server that can read a DVB card or
dongle and allow streaming of TV programs to suitable clients.

So I installed in on my Liniux Mint Server and yes, it works pretty well.


Howver, be warned, this installation for me was everything that gives
Linux a bad name. The code would not install without some manual
installation having to be done.

And the instructions were totally opaque. Definitely written by a
progranmmer for other programmers.

BUT it works . I can watch TV on any computer on the network that has
VLC installed,Â* and indeed after installation of the appropiate 'app',
on my friggin smart phone.

And recording is a doddle too.

So its a great DIY replacement for a TV stremaing box+PVR but not for
the faint heraterd. You can however download a complete OS installation
that takes out some of the pain and will allow an obsolete PC to become
a video server.

If you want a plug and play COTS solution then a HD Home Run will do the
same job very nicely without the need for a PC, and tuner card (or the
power required to run them 24/7).

Its about the size of a fag packet, connects to wall wart, aerial, and
network, and can stream to anything pretty much. Plex and Kodi
understand how to use it as well.

See:

https://www.silicondust.com/


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Cheers,

John.

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On 16/06/2019 00:32, John Rumm wrote:
On 15/06/2019 12:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
The thread on HDMI streaming menntioned streaming TV boxes, so I got
interssted and did some research.

And came up with TVheadend - a TV server that can read a DVB card or
dongle and allow streaming of TV programs to suitable clients.

So I installed in on my Liniux Mint Server and yes, it works pretty well.


Howver, be warned, this installation for me was everything that gives
Linux a bad name. The code would not install without some manual
installation having to be done.

And the instructions were totally opaque. Definitely written by a
progranmmer for other programmers.

BUT it works . I can watch TV on any computer on the network that has
VLC installed,Â* and indeed after installation of the appropiate 'app',
on my friggin smart phone.

And recording is a doddle too.

So its a great DIY replacement for a TV stremaing box+PVR but not for
the faint heraterd. You can however download a complete OS
installation that takes out some of the pain and will allow an
obsolete PC to become a video server.

If you want a plug and play COTS solution then a HD Home Run will do the
same job very nicely without the need for a PC, and tuner card (or the
power required to run them 24/7).

I had the PC, the tuner dongle and it runs 24x7 anyway.

My intrepretation of Occam is 'Do not multiply electronic boxes beyond
neceessity'.

So far that server has elminated most USB sticks, the need for any DVD
players on the (smart) tellies, the need for a CD player and tuner for
the hifi, and the need for TV dongles on every PC.

And the cost was 5 hours of farting around to get it working





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gospel of envy.

Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Winston Churchill

On 15/06/2019 12:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

BUT it works . I can watch TV on any computer on the network that has
VLC installed,Â* and indeed after installation of the appropiate 'app',
on my friggin smart phone.

And recording is a doddle too.

So its a great DIY replacement for a TV stremaing box+PVR but not for
the faint heraterd. You can however download a complete OS installation
that takes out some of the pain and will allow an obsolete PC to become
a video server.



A lot of that is covered by this guy here. Beware - Oz accent....

https://www.youtube.com/user/CWNE88

--
Adrian C

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
So far that server has elminated most USB sticks, the need for any DVD
players on the (smart) tellies, the need for a CD player and tuner for
the hifi, and the need for TV dongles on every PC.

And these are facilities you'll now use?

Take me through how convenient it would be to play a CD on your computer
and pick that up on the Hi-Fi? Or indeed radio?

--
*Men are from Earth, women are from Earth. Deal with it.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

came up with TVheadend - a TV server that can read a DVB card or
dongle and allow streaming of TV programs to suitable client

Yes, I switched away from mythTV to TVheadend (with VLC and/or Kodi as
front end)

So I installed in on my Liniux Mint Server and yes, it works pretty well.
Howver, be warned, this installation for me was everything that gives
Linux a bad name. The code would not install without some manual
installation having to be done.

Sounds like a Mint issue, install and upgrades from the usual repos on
Fedora have been clean, I don't even have to build my own kernels to
support the DVB-S2/T2 card which was previously a pain

On 15/06/2019 12:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
The thread on HDMI streaming menntioned streaming TV boxes, so I got
interssted and did some research.

And came up with TVheadend - a TV server that can read a DVB card or
dongle and allow streaming of TV programs to suitable clients.

So I installed in on my Liniux Mint Server and yes, it works pretty well.


Howver, be warned, this installation for me was everything that gives
Linux a bad name. The code would not install without some manual
installation having to be done.

And the instructions were totally opaque. Definitely written by a
progranmmer for other programmers.

BUT it works . I can watch TV on any computer on the network that has
VLC installed,Â* and indeed after installation of the appropiate 'app',
on my friggin smart phone.

And recording is a doddle too.

So its a great DIY replacement for a TV stremaing box+PVR but not for
the faint heraterd. You can however download a complete OS installation
that takes out some of the pain and will allow an obsolete PC to become
a video server.



For streaming Freesat I used to use DVBviewer, Windows only, it was
excellent.

Eventually I gave up on broadcast TV and hence had no need to stream on
the LAN. Now I just stream direct from the internet, Youtube, Amazon
Prime, Netflix etc, or use VLC to play video files stored on a LAN file
server.

I did briefly try TVheadend it was a bit of work but usable there was a
Linux paid for package that was easier, more polished, but I can't
remember what it was called, maybe DVBStreamer?

On 16/06/2019 10:56, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
So far that server has elminated most USB sticks, the need for any DVD
players on the (smart) tellies, the need for a CD player and tuner for
the hifi, and the need for TV dongles on every PC.

And these are facilities you'll now use?

Take me through how convenient it would be to play a CD on your computer
and pick that up on the Hi-Fi? Or indeed radio?

Easy, tell Alexa to play the CD and route it to lounge/conservatory/etc.

Of course I wouldn't do that as I have FLAC files for the CDs on a
server so I would play them.

I seldom get the usb DVD drive out these days.

On 16/06/2019 10:56, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
So far that server has elminated most USB sticks, the need for any DVD
players on the (smart) tellies, the need for a CD player and tuner for
the hifi, and the need for TV dongles on every PC.

And these are facilities you'll now use?

Take me through how convenient it would be to play a CD on your computer
and pick that up on the Hi-Fi? Or indeed radio?

Glossing over the whole CD != TV thing for a moment, the obvious
solution is you rip the CD to your network storage device, and then play
or stream that at the point of use. For older Hi-Fis without streaming
capability, something like a Chromecast Audio will add a capability in a
very easy to use form. A radio might be a less useful device for CD
playing - but if it has an Aux in connection, then the same solution
will work.




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Cheers,

John.

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On 16/06/2019 13:48, Andy Burns wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

came up with TVheadend - a TV server that can read a DVB card or
dongle and allow streaming of TV programs to suitable client

Yes, I switched away from mythTV to TVheadend (with VLC and/or Kodi as
front end)

So I installed in on my Liniux Mint Server and yes, it works pretty well.
Howver, be warned, this installation for me was everything that gives
Linux a bad name. The code would not install without some manual
installation having to be done.

Sounds like a Mint issue, install and upgrades from the usual repos on
Fedora have been clean, I don't even have to build my own kernels to
support the DVB-S2/T2 card which was previously a pain


No. It wasnt IN teh Mint repo so I had to add a PPA and then it kept
saying the size of the .deb was wrong, so I wget'ed that and installed
by hand and fixed up the dependencies by hand, too.

My kernel is not quite late enough on the server to support HD dongles.

So if I want to go HD I will need to upgrade te server.

A job for winter I feel.

--
"Women actually are capable of being far more than the feminists will
let them."

On 16/06/2019 15:13, John Rumm wrote:
On 16/06/2019 10:56, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* The Natural Philosopher wrote:
So far that server has elminated most USB sticks, the need for any DVD
players on the (smart) tellies, the need for a CD player and tuner for
the hifi, and the need for TV dongles on every PC.

And these are facilities you'll now use?

Take me through how convenient it would be to play a CD on your computer
and pick that up on the Hi-Fi? Or indeed radio?

I rip em losslessly to FLAC, put them on te server and play that on any
one of many devices round the house.

As far as radio goes there is nothing I can get on FM that I can't get
at better S/N over the internet.

So my FM radio tuner is redundant now as well as the CD player and the
DVD player.

To connect to my hifi I hacked a raspberry Pi with a DAC card to feed
the HiFi, and control it from a web page using any computer or
smartphone on the house network.






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