On 20/01/2019 18:16, Max Demian wrote:
You're thinking of "tamper evident" seals, which don't even have to be
hermetic/airtight, as in the case of some plastic milk bottles which
just have a plastic rip cord you have to remove.
i bought some milk that allleaked through a [inhoile in the wall of te
bottle.

Boot of the car stank forever


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On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 20:11:51 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 20/01/2019 18:16, Max Demian wrote:
You're thinking of "tamper evident" seals, which don't even have to be
hermetic/airtight, as in the case of some plastic milk bottles which
just have a plastic rip cord you have to remove.
i bought some milk that allleaked through a [inhoile in the wall of te
bottle.

Boot of the car stank forever

I keep a medium sized seamless plastic box in the car.

Milk and other liquids *always* travel in that.

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Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 14:20:22 +1100, FMurtz wrote:

But this one breaks the seal by pressure on opposite sides of the lid
and then takes little effort.

ISTR that pre 1991 when we had that epidemic of food tampering and the
jars were at that time not vacuum sealed, there were *still* some lids
that were a serious PITA to off. So it has do more than just releasing
the vacuum.




everybody can waffle all they like about this thing an that,but until
you try one you will never know.
As an exercise ask anyone who who has one (except Rod )
If any poster who has one and does not agree please post (except Rod)

On 21/01/2019 10:02, FMurtz wrote:



everybody can waffle all they like about this thing an that,but until
you try one you will never know.
As an exercise ask anyone who who has one (except Rod Â* )
If any poster who has one and does not agree please post (except Rod)Â*

I have one. It works well on jars where the vacuum is so strong that you
cannot turn the lid. Just place the tool under the lip of the lid and
apply a very gentle upwards pressure. The lid "pops" slightly - remove
the tool and the lid turns with ease.

It does exactly what is shown in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmPsPTE1Sss


The tool doesn't work on jars with very deep lids because it cannot
mechanically fit on something so deep. These jars are however in the
minority - I've only come across one in the past couple of years.



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On 20/01/2019 10:47, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 18/01/2019 18:54, DerbyBorn wrote:
I have discovered some super strong materials lurking under our noses:

1. The string used by butchers to tie a pork loin. Resists normal attemts
to cut it with the knofe you have in your hand.

2. Black Pudding Slices outer skin (M&S). Doesn't rip or cut - even after
being exposed to high temperatures.

3. Ladies High Heel shoe heel materials. Impact resistant.


4. The plastic wrapping of cheese resists normal attempts to tear - but
then gives up and rips in unexpected directions. Can't see a use for this
yet.

The brightly coloured pointy swirls on Huntley and Palmers Iced Gem
biscuits made from the hardest substance known to man.

Cheers


Marmite
Get marmite on the outer screw section of the jar and in the inner screw
section of the lid and removal of the lid is almost impossible. Even
with water pliers the marmite acts like the thickest of high viscosity
dampening grease and you will continue to be fighting every small
fraction of complete revolution of the lid until it is fully unscrewed.

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alan_m wrote:
On 21/01/2019 10:02, FMurtz wrote:



everybody can waffle all they like about this thing an that,but until
you try one you will never know.
As an exercise ask anyone who who has one (except Rod Â* )
If any poster who has one and does not agree please post (except Rod)Â*

I have one. It works well on jars where the vacuum is so strong that you
cannot turn the lid. Just place the tool under the lip of the lid and
apply a very gentle upwards pressure. The lid "pops" slightly - remove
the tool and the lid turns with ease.

It does exactly what is shown in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmPsPTE1Sss


The tool doesn't work on jars with very deep lids because it cannot
mechanically fit on something so deep. These jars are however in the
minority - I've only come across one in the past couple of years.



That is not the tool I am talking about.
This is.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bottle+lid...%2Fs-l1000.jpg
https://tinyurl.com/y7af3byz

"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 21/01/2019 10:02, FMurtz wrote:



everybody can waffle all they like about this thing an that,but until you
try one you will never know.
As an exercise ask anyone who who has one (except Rod )
If any poster who has one and does not agree please post (except Rod)

I have one. It works well on jars where the vacuum is so strong that you
cannot turn the lid. Just place the tool under the lip of the lid and
apply a very gentle upwards pressure. The lid "pops" slightly - remove the
tool and the lid turns with ease.

It does exactly what is shown in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmPsPTE1Sss

He isnt talking about that one.

The tool doesn't work on jars with very deep lids because it cannot
mechanically fit on something so deep. These jars are however in the
minority - I've only come across one in the past couple of years.

Me too, but unfortunately for me I bought hundreds of the ones
with the too deep lids with marmalade in them and then when
the supplier of that marmalade discontinued that particular lemon
and lime marmalade, decided to make my own and made a much
better marmalade. With the store bought marmalade the lids can
off fine. Not with my own because I put the lids on too soon after
putting in the hot marmalade and couldnt get the lids off.

On 21/01/2019 15:39, FMurtz wrote:
alan_m wrote:
On 21/01/2019 10:02, FMurtz wrote:



everybody can waffle all they like about this thing an that,but until
you try one you will never know.
As an exercise ask anyone who who has one (except Rod Â* )
If any poster who has one and does not agree please post (except
Rod)Â*

I have one. It works well on jars where the vacuum is so strong that
you cannot turn the lid. Just place the tool under the lip of the lid
and apply a very gentle upwards pressure. The lid "pops" slightly -
remove the tool and the lid turns with ease.

It does exactly what is shown in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmPsPTE1Sss


The tool doesn't work on jars with very deep lids because it cannot
mechanically fit on something so deep. These jars are however in the
minority - I've only come across one in the past couple of years.



That is not the tool I am talking about.
This is.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bottle+lid...%2Fs-l1000.jpg

https://tinyurl.com/y7af3byz

It may be that others find as I do that your link does not give me one
item. In Firefox it switches to
https://duckduckgo.com/html?q=bottle%20lid%20opener with a range of items.

Is this [like] the one you have in mind?

https://www.amazon.com/Kichwit-Arthr...96b6ef3afed5a8

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kichwit-Art...ywords=Kichwit



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On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 04:37:34 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Me too, but unfortunately for me I bought hundreds of the ones
with the too deep lids with marmalade in them and then when
the supplier of that marmalade discontinued that particular lemon
and lime marmalade, decided to make my own and made a much
better marmalade.

HILARIOUS and TYPICAL of a psychopath: self-centered, isolated, brewing his
own beer, baking his own bread and even making his own marmalade! LMAO

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On 21/01/2019 17:37, Rod Speed wrote:


"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 21/01/2019 10:02, FMurtz wrote:



everybody can waffle all they like about this thing an that,but until
you try one you will never know.
As an exercise ask anyone who who has one (except Rod Â* )
If any poster who has one and does not agree please post (except
Rod)Â*

I have one. It works well on jars where the vacuum is so strong that
you cannot turn the lid. Just place the tool under the lip of the lid
and apply a very gentle upwards pressure. The lid "pops" slightly -
remove the tool and the lid turns with ease.

It does exactly what is shown in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmPsPTE1Sss

He isnt talking about that one.

The tool doesn't work on jars with very deep lids because it cannot
mechanically fit on something so deep. These jars are however in the
minority - I've only come across one in the past couple of years.

Me too, but unfortunately for me I bought hundreds of the ones
with the too deep lids with marmalade in them and then when
the supplier of that marmalade discontinued that particular lemon
and lime marmalade, decided to make my own and made a much
better marmalade. With the store bought marmalade the lids can
off fine. Not with my own because I put the lids on too soon after
putting in the hot marmalade and couldnt get the lids off.

Traditionally home made jam was closed with cellophane secured with a
rubber band, which is pulled into a concave shape as it cools. This was
from the days before screw lids.

You could also get special metal lids with a rubber seal and a clip to
hold it while it cooled, for preserving fruit in place of Kilner jars.
Different sized lids were available for 1lb and 2lb jam jars, which were
all a standard size.

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"Max Demian" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 21/01/2019 17:37, Rod Speed wrote:


"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 21/01/2019 10:02, FMurtz wrote:



everybody can waffle all they like about this thing an that,but until
you try one you will never know.
As an exercise ask anyone who who has one (except Rod )
If any poster who has one and does not agree please post (except Rod)


I have one. It works well on jars where the vacuum is so strong that you
cannot turn the lid. Just place the tool under the lip of the lid and
apply a very gentle upwards pressure. The lid "pops" slightly - remove
the tool and the lid turns with ease.

It does exactly what is shown in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmPsPTE1Sss

He isnt talking about that one.

The tool doesn't work on jars with very deep lids because it cannot
mechanically fit on something so deep. These jars are however in the
minority - I've only come across one in the past couple of years.

Me too, but unfortunately for me I bought hundreds of the ones
with the too deep lids with marmalade in them and then when
the supplier of that marmalade discontinued that particular lemon
and lime marmalade, decided to make my own and made a much
better marmalade. With the store bought marmalade the lids can
off fine. Not with my own because I put the lids on too soon after
putting in the hot marmalade and couldnt get the lids off.

Traditionally home made jam was closed with cellophane secured with a
rubber band, which is pulled into a concave shape as it cools. This was
from the days before screw lids.

Yes, but screw lids work much better. You can in fact still buy
those cellophane tops.

You could also get special metal lids with a rubber seal and a clip to
hold it while it cooled, for preserving fruit in place of Kilner jars.

You still can, but they were mostly much bigger than
the size that works best for marmalade, 500 or 600ml.
You need a long something to get marmalade out of
the bigger ones. The 500 or 600 ml jars work fine with
the knife that you spread the marmalade on the toast.

Different sized lids were available for 1lb and 2lb jam jars, which were
all a standard size.

They are still buyable now and quite a few show up
at the garage sales and on the local facebook buy
swap sell groups.

The fix is easy with the screw top jars, just put the
lid on loosely, tighten it after the marmalade has
cooled down a bit, but not before its cooled
completely. That way the final cooling still
produces the vacuum seal but the lid is still
easy to get off just using your hands.

And if you stuff the timing up, all up have
to do is give it a couple of minutes in the
microwave. That gets the marmalade hot
again an partly reduces the vacuum so
you can get the lid off. Obviously does
the marmalade no harm since it was
much hotter just before being bottled.

On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 10:53:30 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


You still can, but they were mostly much bigger than
the size that works best for marmalade, 500 or 600ml.
You need a long something to get marmalade out of
the bigger ones. The 500 or 600 ml jars work fine with
the knife that you spread the marmalade on the toast.

85-year-old cantankerous geezer Rot Speed is a specialist in home-made
marmalade!
ROTFLOL
ROTFLOL
ROTFLOL

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Robin wrote:
On 21/01/2019 15:39, FMurtz wrote:
alan_m wrote:
On 21/01/2019 10:02, FMurtz wrote:



everybody can waffle all they like about this thing an that,but
until you try one you will never know.
As an exercise ask anyone who who has one (except Rod Â* )
If any poster who has one and does not agree please post (except
Rod)Â*

I have one. It works well on jars where the vacuum is so strong that
you cannot turn the lid. Just place the tool under the lip of the lid
and apply a very gentle upwards pressure. The lid "pops" slightly -
remove the tool and the lid turns with ease.

It does exactly what is shown in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmPsPTE1Sss


The tool doesn't work on jars with very deep lids because it cannot
mechanically fit on something so deep. These jars are however in the
minority - I've only come across one in the past couple of years.



That is not the tool I am talking about.
This is.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bottle+lid...%2Fs-l1000.jpg

https://tinyurl.com/y7af3byz

It may be that others find as I do that your link does not give me one
item.Â* In Firefox it switches to
https://duckduckgo.com/html?q=bottle%20lid%20opener with a range of items.

Is this [like] the one you have in mind?

https://www.amazon.com/Kichwit-Arthr...96b6ef3afed5a8


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kichwit-Art...ywords=Kichwit




No ,this is

https://imgur.com/a/ho5bY1H