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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook
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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook


Range from fuel in tank?
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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer
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Could find no reference in the handbook


Range from fuel in tank?
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Some tank!


500 miles of range, not too dissimilar to my tanks range.
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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook


Range from fuel in tank?


It is just a continuation of the speedometer range. When you get above
160 MPH it stops measuring speed and starts estimating the number of
policemen following you.
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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook

looks to me like accumulated "total" distance and "trip" distance. I've
seen other BMWs with them below the dials.

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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer
headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook

looks to me like accumulated "total" distance and "trip" distance.Â* I've
seen other BMWs with them below the dials.


Ahem,

read the question carefully
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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer
headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook


Range from fuel in tank? --


Some tank!

when I filled up last Saturday, I was told I had a range of 632 miles!

The scale is marked in km so range is very likely

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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook

Seeing as thia is a diseasal probably the AdBlue range left?
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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook


Range from fuel in tank?
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Some tank!


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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer
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Could find no reference in the handbook


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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook


Distance in Km since last refill? Countdown to next service?
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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer
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Could find no reference in the handbook


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:-D

points also for cutting up/in, non use of indicators & general
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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook


Could be a time/miles to service indicator.
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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer headed 400


fuel range?

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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook


Range to empty, can cycle through various displays using the button on
the end of the turn indicator stalk.

That is, if, as a BMW driver you know what that is Grin



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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer
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Could find no reference in the handbook


road rage target for today


:-D

points also for cutting up/in, non use of indicators & general
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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer
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Could find no reference in the handbook


Range from fuel in tank?


Unlikely given that it only displays with the engine off.

The manual must say what its for.

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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer
headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook


Range from fuel in tank? --


Some tank!

when I filled up last Saturday, I was told I had a range of 632 miles!

The scale is marked in km so range is very likely


But why does it only show with the engine off ?

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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer
headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook


Could be a time/miles to service indicator.


Much too short for that.

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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook


Range to empty, can cycle through various displays using the button on



the end of the turn indicator stalk.

That is, if, as a BMW driver you know what that is Grin



No not that.That is displayed in the small window above this display

I finally fuound it in the handbook

https://fredsmith-photography.smugmu...ry/i-vrFG6cz/A
Ive had the car for over 3 years and only recently spoted this 400 marking
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It duplicates in some ways infprmation hat can already be gleaned from the trip computer but makes it permanently available available at a glance.


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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer
headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook


Could be a time/miles to service indicator.


Much too short for that.



******** it is.
He could have been watching the figure count down for ages and only now
has decided to ask the question when it has got close to service time .

Stay in your wet paper bag you thick twit.

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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook


Range to empty, can cycle through various displays using the button on



the end of the turn indicator stalk.

That is, if, as a BMW driver you know what that is Grin



No not that.That is displayed in the small window above this display

I finally fuound it in the handbook

https://fredsmith-photography.smugmu...ry/i-vrFG6cz/A
Ive had the car for over 3 years and only recently spoted this 400 marking
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It duplicates in some ways infprmation hat can already be gleaned from the trip computer but makes it permanently available available at a glance.


So what is it?!

Er... "Permanently available" but only when you turn ignition on?
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IME, if you don't use a particular feature of a new car within a couple
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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer
headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignition on.


Given that it has "km" next to it, I'd guess that it was estimated range
based on your recent fuel consumption and current fuel reserves.
Around 500 km is about 310 miles, which seems (sort of) plausible for
a bit over half a tank of diesel.

Could find no reference in the handbook


That's surprising. What model is it?

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Range from fuel in tank? --


Some tank!

when I filled up last Saturday, I was told I had a range of 632 miles!

The scale is marked in km so range is very likely


But why does it only show with the engine off ?


On my Ford Focus the "range to empty" is one of several displays
available with the engine running but defaults to that display with the
engine off. Eg you can drive showing the instantaneous or average mpg
or range to empty, but turn the engine off and leave the ignition on
"AUX" and range to empty will display, regardless of what is showing
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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer
headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook

Could be a time/miles to service indicator.


Much too short for that.


******** it is.


No modern car has service at 400Km or 400 miles. stupid.

He could have been watching the figure count down for ages and only
now has decided to ask the question when it has got close to service time
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Pity about the fixed 400 on that scale, stupid.


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Ive had the car for over 3 years and only recently spoted this


IME, if you don't use a particular feature of a new car within a couple
of months, you never will ...


Well I dunno. It was only after I realised that my XK8's nearside
mirrors wouldnt go back after being knocked that the Jaguar dealership
asked why I hadnt cycled the powerfold mirrors...What power fold mirrors?

I'd had it about three years.

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Some tank!
when I filled up last Saturday, I was told I had a range of 632 miles!

The scale is marked in km so range is very likely


But why does it only show with the engine off ?


On my Ford Focus the "range to empty" is one of several displays available
with the engine running but defaults to that display with the engine off.
Eg you can drive showing the instantaneous or average mpg or range to
empty, but turn the engine off and leave the ignition on "AUX" and range
to empty will display, regardless of what is showing with the engine
running.


Sure, but he appeared to be saying that nothing
is displayed on that bit with the engine running.

Turns out that its only displayed with the
engine running when you are navigating.

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Range from fuel in tank?


Unlikely given that it only displays with the engine off.

The manual must say what its for.


IOW, you got no clue! But you will open your senile gob anyway! Always the
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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer
headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook


Range from fuel in tank? --


Some tank!

when I filled up last Saturday, I was told I had a range of 632 miles!

The scale is marked in km so range is very likely


But why does it only show with the engine off ?


It's a problem for you, isn't it, if someone else might have provided the
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On my Ford Focus the "range to empty" is one of several displays available
with the engine running but defaults to that display with the engine off.
Eg you can drive showing the instantaneous or average mpg or range to
empty, but turn the engine off and leave the ignition on "AUX" and range
to empty will display, regardless of what is showing with the engine
running.


Sure, but


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******** it is.


No modern car has service at 400Km or 400 miles. stupid.

He could have been watching the figure count down for ages and only
now has decided to ask the question when it has got close to service time
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Pity about the fixed 400 on that scale, stupid.


Just crawl back into your wet paper bag, senile cretin!

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Ive had the car for over 3 years and only recently spoted this

IME, if you don't use a particular feature of a new car within a
couple of months, you never will ...


Well I dunno. It was only after I realised that my XK8's nearside
mirrors wouldnt go back after being knocked that the Jaguar dealership
asked why I hadnt cycled the powerfold mirrors...What power fold mirrors?


Don't they auto-fold when you turn off the ignition?

No, they didnt back then (1990s). Mostly they do on the later models -
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Ive had the car for over 3 years and only recently spoted this

IME, if you don't use a particular feature of a new car within a
couple of months, you never will ...

Well I dunno. It was only after I realised that my XK8's nearside
mirrors wouldnt go back after being knocked that the Jaguar dealership
asked why I hadnt cycled the powerfold mirrors...What power fold mirrors?


Don't they auto-fold when you turn off the ignition?

No, they didnt back then (1990s). Mostly they do on the later models -
or it is at least a configurable option.


What on earth is the point of power fold mirrors if they don't do it each
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On 05/09/18 08:57, Andy Burns wrote:
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Ive had the car for over 3 years and only recently spoted this

IME, if you don't use a particular feature of a new car within a
couple of months, you never will ...

Well I dunno. It was only after I realised that my XK8's nearside
mirrors wouldnt go back after being knocked that the Jaguar dealership
asked why I hadnt cycled the powerfold mirrors...What power fold mirrors?

Don't they auto-fold when you turn off the ignition?

No, they didnt back then (1990s). Mostly they do on the later models -
or it is at least a configurable option.


What on earth is the point of power fold mirrors if they don't do it each
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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer
headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook

Could be a time/miles to service indicator.

Much too short for that.


******** it is.


No modern car has service at 400Km or 400 miles. stupid.

He could have been watching the figure count down for ages and only
now has decided to ask the question when it has got close to service time
.


Pity about the fixed 400 on that scale, stupid.




The OP has discovered what the indication is for, and it does appear to be
a range indicator which up thread you said was unlikely.

But to get back to service interval displays you clearly think that they
must stay fixed.
With modern condition based servicing to use BMWs terminology different
items have different service periods according to how they are wearing
rather than a whole car service at X 00000 miles

Choosing the option eg brakes will indicate based on how the vehicle has
been driven how many miles are left before the brakes may need need
servicing.
Say you have a look and the system displays that based on the driving style
and wear so far it indicates 1800 miles left .
Clearly as you continue the system counts down from that 1800 to 0 at some
stage it will pass through 400

Such a simple concept but your Aussified brain could not see it.

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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer
headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook

Could be a time/miles to service indicator.

Much too short for that.


******** it is.


No modern car has service at 400Km or 400 miles. stupid.

He could have been watching the figure count down for ages and only
now has decided to ask the question when it has got close to service
time
.


Pity about the fixed 400 on that scale, stupid.


The OP has discovered what the indication is for, and it does appear
to be a range indicator which up thread you said was unlikely.


Because he originally said that it only shows with the engine off.

But to get back to service interval displays
you clearly think that they must stay fixed.


No, that no modern car has anything like 400 mile or 400 km service
intervals.

With modern condition based servicing to use BMWs terminology
different items have different service periods according to how
they are wearing rather than a whole car service at X 00000 miles


Yes, but they are never as low as 400 miles or 400 km.

Choosing the option eg brakes will indicate based
on how the vehicle has been driven how many miles
are left before the brakes may need need servicing.


Yes, but they are never as low as 400 miles or 400 km.

Say you have a look and the system displays that based on
the driving style and wear so far it indicates 1800 miles left .


But the scale has a fixed 400 label in the middle.

Clearly as you continue the system counts down from
that 1800 to 0 at some stage it will pass through 400


But its unlikely he fluked that with the photo.

Such a simple concept


A stupid one in fact.


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On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 9:39:24 PM UTC+1, Lee wrote:
On 04/09/2018 16:10, fred wrote:
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What is the significane of the gauge at the bottom of the speedometer headed 400. It only reads with the engine off but the ignitionon on.



Could find no reference in the handbook


Range to empty, can cycle through various displays using the button on



the end of the turn indicator stalk.

That is, if, as a BMW driver you know what that is Grin



No not that.That is displayed in the small window above this display

I finally fuound it in the handbook

https://fredsmith-photography.smugmu...ry/i-vrFG6cz/A
Ive had the car for over 3 years and only recently spoted this 400 marking



Oh right it's the "how far to poland-ometer", they really do zink
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blabbered, again:

FLUSH the abnormal senile geezer's self-opinionated senile ****

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On 05/09/2018 13:53, Tim Streater wrote:
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On 05/09/18 08:57, Andy Burns wrote:
fred wrote:

Ive had the car for over 3 years and only recently spoted this

IME, if you don't use a particular feature of a new car within a
couple of months, you never will ...


Well I dunno. It was only after I realised that my XK8's nearside
mirrors wouldnt go back after being knocked that the Jaguar dealership
asked why I hadnt cycled the powerfold mirrors...What power fold mirrors?


Don't they auto-fold when you turn off the ignition?


You'd want them to operate when you lock the car, not while you're still
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