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It's a while since I did domestic work.

So I was really looking forward to todays job which was domestic.

Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me so I
said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no comment or ignores me and the
fanny licker runs around for a few more minutes before biting me again.

This time I hoof it with my steel toe tapped boot across the room, the
dog yelps and the customer starts to complain.

Customer wants me off offsite and threatens to call the police and
report me to the RSCPA. The MD arrives and assures the customer it was
not deliberate and that I had accidentally stood on the dogs paw.

The cheeky **** of a customer then asks the MD for a discount and about
10 seconds after him asking the fanny licker then bites the MD in full
view of the customer and the dog gets kicked across the room for the
second time in a half an hour.



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It's a while since I did domestic work.


So I was really looking forward to todays job which was domestic.


So you could **** SWMBO presumably.

Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me


Because it twigged that you were gunna **** its owner.

so I said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no
comment or ignores me and the fanny licker runs
around for a few more minutes before biting me again.


This time I hoof it with my steel toe tapped boot across the
room, the dog yelps and the customer starts to complain.


There goes the ****.

Customer wants me off offsite and threatens to call the police and
report me to the RSCPA. The MD arrives and assures the customer it
was not deliberate and that I had accidentally stood on the dogs paw.


The cheeky **** of a customer then asks the MD for a discount
and about 10 seconds after him asking the fanny licker then
bites the MD in full view of the customer and the dog gets
kicked across the room for the second time in a half an hour.


So what happened next ?
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ARW wrote
It's a while since I did domestic work.


So I was really looking forward to todays job which was domestic.


So you could **** SWMBO presumably.
Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me


Because it twigged that you were gunna **** its owner.
so I said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no comment or ignores me
and the fanny licker runs around for a few more minutes before biting
me again.


This time I hoof it with my steel toe tapped boot across the room, the
dog yelps and the customer starts to complain.


There goes the ****.
Customer wants me off offsite and threatens to call the police and
report me to the RSCPA. The MD arrives and assures the customer it was
not deliberate and that I had accidentally stood on the dogs paw.


The cheeky **** of a customer then asks the MD for a discount and
about 10 seconds after him asking the fanny licker then bites the MD
in full view of the customer and the dog gets kicked across the room
for the second time in a half an hour.


So what happened next ?


we all smile ...

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It's a while since I did domestic work.

So I was really looking forward to todays job which was domestic.

Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me so I
said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no comment or ignores me and
the fanny licker runs around for a few more minutes before biting me
again.

This time I hoof it with my steel toe tapped boot across the room, the
dog yelps and the customer starts to complain.

Customer wants me off offsite and threatens to call the police and
report me to the RSCPA. The MD arrives and assures the customer it was
not deliberate and that I had accidentally stood on the dogs paw.

The cheeky **** of a customer then asks the MD for a discount and about
10 seconds after him asking the fanny licker then bites the MD in full
view of the customer and the dog gets kicked across the room for the
second time in a half an hour.



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Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me


Probably annoyed that you didn't have a fanny

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Probably annoyed that you didn't have a fanny


Strnge... Adam's usually got an apprentice in tow.

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On 22/08/2018 19:16, ARW wrote:
It's a while since I did domestic work.

So I was really looking forward to todays job which was domestic.

Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me so I
said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no comment or ignores me and the
fanny licker runs around for a few more minutes before biting me again.

This time I hoof it with my steel toe tapped boot across the room, the
dog yelps and the customer starts to complain.

Customer wants me off offsite and threatens to call the police and
report me to the RSCPA. The MD arrives and assures the customer it was
not deliberate and that I had accidentally stood on the dogs paw.

The cheeky **** of a customer then asks the MD for a discount and about
10 seconds after him asking the fanny licker then bites the MD in full
view of the customer and the dog gets kicked across the room for the
second time in a half an hour.



Assuming you witnessed the dog bite the MD then a complaint to the
police seems a good idea. There are still too any people ignorant of
the fact the Dangerous Dogs law was extended to dogs on private
property. With a bit of luck the customer will get a visit from the
constabulary. And may even be inclined to offer suitable compensation
without the need for a letter before action.



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On Wednesday, 22 August 2018 21:33:08 UTC+1, Robin wrote:
On 22/08/2018 19:16, ARW wrote:
It's a while since I did domestic work.

So I was really looking forward to todays job which was domestic.

Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me so I
said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no comment or ignores me and the
fanny licker runs around for a few more minutes before biting me again.

This time I hoof it with my steel toe tapped boot across the room, the
dog yelps and the customer starts to complain.

Customer wants me off offsite and threatens to call the police and
report me to the RSCPA. The MD arrives and assures the customer it was
not deliberate and that I had accidentally stood on the dogs paw.

The cheeky **** of a customer then asks the MD for a discount and about
10 seconds after him asking the fanny licker then bites the MD in full
view of the customer and the dog gets kicked across the room for the
second time in a half an hour.



Assuming you witnessed the dog bite the MD then a complaint to the
police seems a good idea. There are still too any people ignorant of
the fact the Dangerous Dogs law was extended to dogs on private
property. With a bit of luck the customer will get a visit from the
constabulary. And may even be inclined to offer suitable compensation
without the need for a letter before action.


Going that route is likely to result in the dog's death, which seems rather harsh. The problem is nearly always the owner, not the dog.


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On Wednesday, 22 August 2018 21:33:08 UTC+1, Robin wrote:
On 22/08/2018 19:16, ARW wrote:
It's a while since I did domestic work.

So I was really looking forward to todays job which was domestic.

Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me so I
said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no comment or ignores me and the
fanny licker runs around for a few more minutes before biting me again.

This time I hoof it with my steel toe tapped boot across the room, the
dog yelps and the customer starts to complain.

Customer wants me off offsite and threatens to call the police and
report me to the RSCPA. The MD arrives and assures the customer it was
not deliberate and that I had accidentally stood on the dogs paw.

The cheeky **** of a customer then asks the MD for a discount and about
10 seconds after him asking the fanny licker then bites the MD in full
view of the customer and the dog gets kicked across the room for the
second time in a half an hour.



Assuming you witnessed the dog bite the MD then a complaint to the
police seems a good idea. There are still too any people ignorant of
the fact the Dangerous Dogs law was extended to dogs on private
property. With a bit of luck the customer will get a visit from the
constabulary. And may even be inclined to offer suitable compensation
without the need for a letter before action.


Going that route is likely to result in the dog's death, which seems rather harsh. The problem is nearly always the owner, not the dog.


NT


Bill her for the callout & the medical expenses. Maybe point out that if she wants to make an issue of it dangerous dogs routinely get sentenced to death under the dangerous dogs act.
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On Wednesday, 22 August 2018 21:33:08 UTC+1, Robin wrote:


Assuming you witnessed the dog bite the MD then a complaint to the
police seems a good idea. There are still too any people ignorant of
the fact the Dangerous Dogs law was extended to dogs on private
property. With a bit of luck the customer will get a visit from the
constabulary. And may even be inclined to offer suitable compensation
without the need for a letter before action.


Going that route is likely to result in the dog's death, which seems rather
harsh. The problem is nearly always the owner, not the dog.


However, beyond a certain point, the dog becomes essentially irredeemable as
you pretty much can't teach old dogs new tricks, and in particular you can't
unteach them their current ones. If it will attack an adult human, it's quite
likely to do a lot worse to a child - we've seem a fair number of cases over
recent years.

The world isn't short of dogs, so (while I'm actually something of a dog-lover)
I'm not particularly worried about having some of the excess removed.


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Assuming you witnessed the dog bite the MD then a complaint to the
police seems a good idea. There are still too any people ignorant of
the fact the Dangerous Dogs law was extended to dogs on private
property. With a bit of luck the customer will get a visit from the
constabulary. And may even be inclined to offer suitable compensation
without the need for a letter before action.


Going that route is likely to result in the dog's death, which seems
rather
harsh. The problem is nearly always the owner, not the dog.


However, beyond a certain point, the dog becomes essentially
irredeemable as you pretty much can't teach old dogs new tricks,
and in particular you can't unteach them their current ones.


But it isnt hard to shut it up in a room when someone like Adam shows up.

If it will attack an adult human, it's quite likely to do a lot worse to a
child


But if kids dont visit, unlikely to be a problem.

- we've seem a fair number of cases over recent years.


Yep, and some dead kids too. But that unlikely if its
a small dog that can be kicked across the room, twice.

The world isn't short of dogs, so (while I'm actually something of a
dog-lover)
I'm not particularly worried about having some of the excess removed.


The owner might well be tho.

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On Wednesday, 22 August 2018 21:33:08 UTC+1, Robin wrote:


Assuming you witnessed the dog bite the MD then a complaint to the
police seems a good idea. There are still too any people ignorant of
the fact the Dangerous Dogs law was extended to dogs on private
property. With a bit of luck the customer will get a visit from the
constabulary. And may even be inclined to offer suitable compensation
without the need for a letter before action.


Going that route is likely to result in the dog's death, which seems rather
harsh. The problem is nearly always the owner, not the dog.


However, beyond a certain point, the dog becomes essentially irredeemable as
you pretty much can't teach old dogs new tricks, and in particular you can't
unteach them their current ones.


their ways can be changed, but only if you remove them from the problem human or teach the problem human some sense. Generally neither of those happens.


If it will attack an adult human, it's quite
likely to do a lot worse to a child - we've seem a fair number of cases over
recent years.

The world isn't short of dogs, so (while I'm actually something of a dog-lover)
I'm not particularly worried about having some of the excess removed.


Dangerous dogs can be safe IF handled correctly. An example is police attack dogs, trained to attack people but don't kill people or attack the officers.


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However, beyond a certain point, the dog becomes essentially irredeemable as
you pretty much can't teach old dogs new tricks, and in particular you can't
unteach them their current ones.


their ways can be changed, but only if you remove them from the problem human or teach the problem human some sense. Generally neither of those happens.


Wholeheartedly agree. People are always the issue. Always expecting dogs
to act and understand "human" It's humans that need to act and become
"dog" The amount of people that think just because someone's owned a
dog should read "been owned by a dog" in the past makes then an
authority on dogs... and stupid people that see size of dog as the issue
letting small dogs get away with dominant, possessive, aggressive
behaviour because they don't see it for what it actually is.

Dangerous dogs can be safe IF handled correctly. An example is police attack dogs, trained to attack people but don't kill people or attack the officers.


My mate had a GSD that failed Police training because it couldn't clear
the highest obstacle. It had had it's teeth filed to give them flat
tops but the surprise that they found out by accident was when someone
pulled out a toy gun and the dog jumped and grabbed the gun. Did it
every time without fail.

All dogs can be re-calibrated given the correct leader unless they have
underlying medical issues, people on the other hand let emotion get in
the way thereby creating a pathetic, weak and feeble pack member that
Dog will instinctively need to take over the role as "pack leader"
generally without any leadership qualities that would be learnt from
early pack life.





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On Wednesday, 22 August 2018 23:53:41 UTC+1, tabby wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 August 2018 21:33:08 UTC+1, Robin wrote:


Assuming you witnessed the dog bite the MD then a complaint to the
police seems a good idea. There are still too any people ignorant of
the fact the Dangerous Dogs law was extended to dogs on private
property. With a bit of luck the customer will get a visit from the
constabulary. And may even be inclined to offer suitable
compensation
without the need for a letter before action.

Going that route is likely to result in the dog's death, which seems
rather
harsh. The problem is nearly always the owner, not the dog.


However, beyond a certain point, the dog becomes essentially irredeemable
as
you pretty much can't teach old dogs new tricks, and in particular you
can't
unteach them their current ones.


their ways can be changed,


They can indeed and that yankee dog trainer Cesar Millan on
reality TV is shown doing it very effectively indeed with most dogs.

**** google is one hell of a resource now. I couldnt
remember his name and again first hit with google.

but only if you remove them from the problem human


Thats bull****, he does it with the problem human all the time.

or teach the problem human some sense.


Ditto.

Generally neither of those happens.


It does with the best of the dog trainers.

If it will attack an adult human, it's quite
likely to do a lot worse to a child - we've seem a fair number of cases
over
recent years.

The world isn't short of dogs, so (while I'm actually something of a
dog-lover)
I'm not particularly worried about having some of the excess removed.


Dangerous dogs can be safe IF handled correctly.


Yeah, saw one hell of a dog at a garage sale. His master was a young
girl who must have been about 8, did exactly what he was told,
going bananas at the visitors before she told it to behave.

An example is police attack dogs, trained to attack
people but don't kill people or attack the officers.



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you pretty much can't teach old dogs new tricks, and in particular you can't
unteach them their current ones.


I wonder how many 'tradesmen' that comment applies to as well ?.


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The world isn't short of dogs, so (while I'm actually something of a dog-lover)
I'm not particularly worried about having some of the excess removed.



I've always wondered; do you dog-lovers use s lubricant, or isn't it necessary?

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The world isn't short of dogs, so (while I'm actually something of a dog-lover)
I'm not particularly worried about having some of the excess removed.



I've always wondered; do you dog-lovers use s lubricant, or isn't it necessary?


Surely it depends on the breed.

In the mid 90s as the internet was getting talked about a friend challenged me to get something disturbing he could put on the notice board at work, so I found the usenet beastality group and printed out a 6 page document on how to have sex with a dog safely and a two page one on horses.
A friend read this out at a flat warming party. The next day a neighbour complained but not of the noise or the loud music, but the distrubing topic of conversation he and his family heard.

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On 22/08/2018 19:16, ARW wrote:
It's a while since I did domestic work.

So I was really looking forward to todays job which was domestic.

Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me so I
said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no comment or ignores me and the
fanny licker runs around for a few more minutes before biting me again.

This time I hoof it with my steel toe tapped boot across the room, the
dog yelps and the customer starts to complain.

Customer wants me off offsite and threatens to call the police and
report me to the RSCPA. The MD arrives and assures the customer it was
not deliberate and that I had accidentally stood on the dogs paw.

The cheeky **** of a customer then asks the MD for a discount and about
10 seconds after him asking the fanny licker then bites the MD in full
view of the customer and the dog gets kicked across the room for the
second time in a half an hour.



Assuming you witnessed the dog bite the MD then a complaint to the
police seems a good idea. There are still too any people ignorant of
the fact the Dangerous Dogs law was extended to dogs on private
property. With a bit of luck the customer will get a visit from the
constabulary. And may even be inclined to offer suitable compensation
without the need for a letter before action.


Going that route is likely to result in the dog's death, which seems rather harsh. The problem is nearly always the owner, not the dog.


NT


OK, save the dog, cull the owner.
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On 22/08/2018 19:16, ARW wrote:
It's a while since I did domestic work.

So I was really looking forward to todays job which was
domestic.

Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running
around uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to
bite me so I said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no comment
or ignores me and the fanny licker runs around for a few more
minutes before biting me again.

This time I hoof it with my steel toe tapped boot across the
room, the dog yelps and the customer starts to complain.

Customer wants me off offsite and threatens to call the police
and report me to the RSCPA. The MD arrives and assures the
customer it was not deliberate and that I had accidentally stood
on the dogs paw.

The cheeky **** of a customer then asks the MD for a discount and
about 10 seconds after him asking the fanny licker then bites the
MD in full view of the customer and the dog gets kicked across
the room for the second time in a half an hour.


Assuming you witnessed the dog bite the MD then a complaint to the
police seems a good idea. There are still too any people ignorant
of the fact the Dangerous Dogs law was extended to dogs on private
property. With a bit of luck the customer will get a visit from
the constabulary. And may even be inclined to offer suitable
compensation without the need for a letter before action.


+1

Going that route is likely to result in the dog's death, which seems
rather harsh. The problem is nearly always the owner, not the dog.


A single bite probably won't, but if it makes a habit of it then...

It stops someone else getting bitten by that particular dog. Shame you
can't do something more permanent about irresponsible dog owners.

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Shame you
can't do something more permanent about irresponsible dog owners.


You can (and not just dogs of course). They can be banned from owning
a dog for a period or life, fined and / or imprisonment (14 years for
a fatality).

https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...tioners-manual

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Shame you
can't do something more permanent about irresponsible dog owners.


You can (and not just dogs of course). They can be banned from owning
a dog for a period or life, fined and / or imprisonment (14 years for
a fatality).

https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...tioners-manual


But that is useless with small dog that just bites occasionally
and is just a nuisance to the person bitten.

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On 22/08/2018 21:33, Robin wrote:
On 22/08/2018 19:16, ARW wrote:
It's a while since I did domestic work.

So I was really looking forward to todays job which was domestic.

Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me so I
said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no comment or ignores me and
the fanny licker runs around for a few more minutes before biting me
again.

This time I hoof it with my steel toe tapped boot across the room, the
dog yelps and the customer starts to complain.

Customer wants me off offsite and threatens to call the police and
report me to the RSCPA. The MD arrives and assures the customer it was
not deliberate and that I had accidentally stood on the dogs paw.

The cheeky **** of a customer then asks the MD for a discount and
about 10 seconds after him asking the fanny licker then bites the MD
in full view of the customer and the dog gets kicked across the room
for the second time in a half an hour.



Assuming you witnessed the dog bite the MD then a complaint to the
police seems a good idea.Â* There are still too any people ignorant of
the fact the Dangerous Dogs law was extended to dogs on private
property.Â* With a bit of luck the customer will get a visit from the
constabulary.Â* And may even be inclined to offer suitable compensation
without the need for a letter before action.



It's only a fanny licker bite.

I have more damage done to my skin when play fighting with the cat.


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The thing about dogs is that they are pack animals and can be aggressive
toward interlopers who are not pack members.


Most arent.

Most people would not let their dogs loose when stranger are about.


I always did. Corse one time the neighbour's kids thought
it was hilarious to have the patio door open only a slight
amount and sting him on the nose with rubber bands.

One of them discovered that that wasn’t a great approach
when the next time that stupid kid was sitting in a deep
armchair at my place and the ****ing great alsatian walked
up and bit him in the stomach. The stupid kid nearly died of
fright and wasn’t actually stupid enough to do that again.

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It's a while since I did domestic work.

So I was really looking forward to todays job which was domestic.

Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me so I
said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no comment or ignores me and the
fanny licker runs around for a few more minutes before biting me again.

This time I hoof it with my steel toe tapped boot across the room, the
dog yelps and the customer starts to complain.

Customer wants me off offsite and threatens to call the police and report
me to the RSCPA. The MD arrives and assures the customer it was not
deliberate and that I had accidentally stood on the dogs paw.

The cheeky **** of a customer then asks the MD for a discount and about
10 seconds after him asking the fanny licker then bites the MD in full
view of the customer and the dog gets kicked across the room for the
second time in a half an hour.



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One of them discovered that that wasn¢t a great approach
when the next time that stupid kid was sitting in a deep
armchair at my place and the ****ing great alsatian walked
up and bit him in the stomach. The stupid kid nearly died of
fright and wasn¢t actually stupid enough to do that again.


Sure sounds like your dogs are as much of a pest as their senile
cantankerous master, Rot!

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On Thursday, 23 August 2018 11:06:10 UTC+1, Peeler wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 19:27:28 +1000, cantankerous senile geezer Rot Speed
blabbered, again:

One of them discovered that that wasnt a great approach
when the next time that stupid kid was sitting in a deep
armchair at my place and the ****ing great alsatian walked
up and bit him in the stomach. The stupid kid nearly died of
fright and wasnt actually stupid enough to do that again.


Sure sounds like your dogs are as much of a pest as their senile
cantankerous master, Rot!


Not that you'd reply to him or them of course.

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completely senile idiot, blathered:


Sure sounds like your dogs are as much of a pest as their senile
cantankerous master, Rot!


Not that you'd reply to him or them of course.


Point out ONE example where I fed a troll the way you consistently keep
doing, you braindamaged senile idiot! tsk
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 19:16:04 +0100, ARW wrote:

Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me so I
said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no comment or ignores me and the
fanny licker runs around for a few more minutes before biting me again.


I'd have got the owner to remove the dog from the working area in the
first place, not safe for many reasons being bitten is just one of
them.

With no response from the owner after the first bite I'd have simply,
packed up, sat in the van, photographed the bite and called the boss.

Reporting to the Police may mean curtains for the dog, which is a bit
unfair. Nearly always badly behaved dogs are only badly behaved
because the owners don't take and hold the position of "pack leader"
from the point of view of the dog.

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On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:18:27 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 19:16:04 +0100, ARW wrote:

Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me so I
said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no comment or ignores me and the
fanny licker runs around for a few more minutes before biting me again.


I'd have got the owner to remove the dog from the working area in the
first place,


Agreed, even if the dog was highly unlikely to have bitten anyone
(none of ours ever would) you don't know if the person themselves
likes dogs, wants the dog under their feet or it may be dangerous for
the dog (bare wires, blowlamps, sharps saws etc).

not safe for many reasons being bitten is just one of
them.


Quite.


With no response from the owner after the first bite I'd have simply,
packed up, sat in the van, photographed the bite and called the boss.


I guess that depends if it was 'a bite' (as in an attack) or 'a nip'
as in 'I'm not sure if you are a friend in my house'? I know it
wouldn't make much difference legally but might to most people.

As an aside, daughter is a part time animal warden and is often
collecting all sorts of animals (dead, alive and injured) and the
other day collected a dog that was fundamentally 'gentle' but because
it was both injured (only internal bruising as it turns out) and
frightened, softly bit her on her hand as she was getting the dog in
the van a warning that is was in pain.

Reporting to the Police may mean curtains for the dog, which is a bit
unfair.


Potentially unfair on the dog.

Nearly always badly behaved dogs are only badly behaved
because the owners don't take and hold the position of "pack leader"
from the point of view of the dog.


Agreed.

For all our dogs, if someone came to the door, simple instructions
like 'stay' or 'in your bed' was all it took to remind them I was
there, I was aware someone was at the door and that it was ok.

If we knew the people and that they liked dogs, I knew the dogs knew
them and it was appropriate, I would let the dogs greet them. If it
wasn't I would remind the dogs to stay where they were (like if the
visitors had brought in food etc).


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On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:18:27 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 19:16:04 +0100, ARW wrote:

Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me so I
said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no comment or ignores me and the
fanny licker runs around for a few more minutes before biting me again.


I'd have got the owner to remove the dog from the working area in the
first place,


Agreed, even if the dog was highly unlikely to have bitten anyone
(none of ours ever would) you don't know if the person themselves
likes dogs, wants the dog under their feet or it may be dangerous for
the dog (bare wires, blowlamps, sharps saws etc).

not safe for many reasons being bitten is just one of
them.


Quite.


With no response from the owner after the first bite I'd have simply,
packed up, sat in the van, photographed the bite and called the boss.


I guess that depends if it was 'a bite' (as in an attack) or 'a nip'
as in 'I'm not sure if you are a friend in my house'? I know it
wouldn't make much difference legally but might to most people.

As an aside, daughter is a part time animal warden and is often
collecting all sorts of animals (dead, alive and injured) and the
other day collected a dog that was fundamentally 'gentle' but because
it was both injured (only internal bruising as it turns out) and
frightened, softly bit her on her hand as she was getting the dog in
the van a warning that is was in pain.

Reporting to the Police may mean curtains for the dog, which is a bit
unfair.


Potentially unfair on the dog.

Nearly always badly behaved dogs are only badly behaved
because the owners don't take and hold the position of "pack leader"
from the point of view of the dog.


Agreed.

For all our dogs, if someone came to the door, simple instructions
like 'stay' or 'in your bed' was all it took to remind them I was
there, I was aware someone was at the door and that it was ok.

If we knew the people and that they liked dogs, I knew the dogs knew
them and it was appropriate, I would let the dogs greet them. If it
wasn't I would remind the dogs to stay where they were (like if the
visitors had brought in food etc).


Stupid approach. I never do anything special. Mine was keen on
greeting people it knew well with a nip on the visitor's cheek and
did that to me too. Could be a bit of a surprise with a ****ing
great alsatian. Trouble was that it was very hard to predict
when he would decide that they were a well known visitor.

Even odder, when out for a walk, never ever on a lead, he
would just ignore anyone who tried to call him over to pat him
and just keep doing his usual sniffing of everything in sight.

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On 22/08/2018 19:16, ARW wrote:
It's a while since I did domestic work.

So I was really looking forward to todays job which was domestic.


Earning brownie points for a GF reconciliation :-) ?

How did you get home ?.
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On 23/08/2018 12:48, Andrew wrote:
On 22/08/2018 19:16, ARW wrote:
It's a while since I did domestic work.

So I was really looking forward to todays job which was domestic.


Earning brownie points for a GF reconciliation :-)Â* ?

How did you get home ?.


On the Friday I got a lift with the the landlord of one of the pubs to
Normanton and then caught the train home from there.

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ARW wrote:
It's a while since I did domestic work.

So I was really looking forward to todays job which was domestic.

Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me so I
said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no comment or ignores me and
the fanny licker runs around for a few more minutes before biting me
again.
This time I hoof it with my steel toe tapped boot across the room, the
dog yelps and the customer starts to complain.

Customer wants me off offsite and threatens to call the police and
report me to the RSCPA. The MD arrives and assures the customer it was
not deliberate and that I had accidentally stood on the dogs paw.

The cheeky **** of a customer then asks the MD for a discount and
about 10 seconds after him asking the fanny licker then bites the MD
in full view of the customer and the dog gets kicked across the room
for the second time in a half an hour.


In a different life I repaired a fridge freezer for an old lady. She had a
Jack Russell. We made friends, I had it rolling around on its back. She told
me not to trust it.
Job done. I was walking down her garden path to the van and the ******* shot
out and bit my ankle. There was blood.
The old lady was grinning like a Cheshire cat.


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On 26/08/2018 16:54, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
ARW wrote:
It's a while since I did domestic work.

So I was really looking forward to todays job which was domestic.

Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me so I
said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no comment or ignores me and
the fanny licker runs around for a few more minutes before biting me
again.
This time I hoof it with my steel toe tapped boot across the room, the
dog yelps and the customer starts to complain.

Customer wants me off offsite and threatens to call the police and
report me to the RSCPA. The MD arrives and assures the customer it was
not deliberate and that I had accidentally stood on the dogs paw.

The cheeky **** of a customer then asks the MD for a discount and
about 10 seconds after him asking the fanny licker then bites the MD
in full view of the customer and the dog gets kicked across the room
for the second time in a half an hour.


In a different life I repaired a fridge freezer for an old lady. She had a
Jack Russell. We made friends, I had it rolling around on its back. She told
me not to trust it.
Job done. I was walking down her garden path to the van and the ******* shot
out and bit my ankle. There was blood.
The old lady was grinning like a Cheshire cat.


Did you not treat yourself and kick it across the garden?

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ARW wrote:
On 26/08/2018 16:54, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
ARW wrote:
It's a while since I did domestic work.

So I was really looking forward to todays job which was domestic.

Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me
so I said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no comment or ignores
me and the fanny licker runs around for a few more minutes before
biting me again.
This time I hoof it with my steel toe tapped boot across the room,
the dog yelps and the customer starts to complain.

Customer wants me off offsite and threatens to call the police and
report me to the RSCPA. The MD arrives and assures the customer it
was not deliberate and that I had accidentally stood on the dogs
paw. The cheeky **** of a customer then asks the MD for a discount and
about 10 seconds after him asking the fanny licker then bites the MD
in full view of the customer and the dog gets kicked across the room
for the second time in a half an hour.


In a different life I repaired a fridge freezer for an old lady. She
had a Jack Russell. We made friends, I had it rolling around on its
back. She told me not to trust it.
Job done. I was walking down her garden path to the van and the
******* shot out and bit my ankle. There was blood.
The old lady was grinning like a Cheshire cat.


Did you not treat yourself and kick it across the garden?


I was warned and I don't go around kicking little dogs.


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On 26/08/2018 18:15, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
ARW wrote:
On 26/08/2018 16:54, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
ARW wrote:
It's a while since I did domestic work.

So I was really looking forward to todays job which was domestic.

Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me
so I said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no comment or ignores
me and the fanny licker runs around for a few more minutes before
biting me again.
This time I hoof it with my steel toe tapped boot across the room,
the dog yelps and the customer starts to complain.

Customer wants me off offsite and threatens to call the police and
report me to the RSCPA. The MD arrives and assures the customer it
was not deliberate and that I had accidentally stood on the dogs
paw. The cheeky **** of a customer then asks the MD for a discount and
about 10 seconds after him asking the fanny licker then bites the MD
in full view of the customer and the dog gets kicked across the room
for the second time in a half an hour.

In a different life I repaired a fridge freezer for an old lady. She
had a Jack Russell. We made friends, I had it rolling around on its
back. She told me not to trust it.
Job done. I was walking down her garden path to the van and the
******* shot out and bit my ankle. There was blood.
The old lady was grinning like a Cheshire cat.


Did you not treat yourself and kick it across the garden?


I was warned and I don't go around kicking little dogs.

Any dog that bites people for no reason needs to be taught a lesson.


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On 26/08/2018 18:15, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
ARW wrote:
On 26/08/2018 16:54, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
ARW wrote:
It's a while since I did domestic work.

So I was really looking forward to todays job which was domestic.

Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me
so I said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no comment or ignores
me and the fanny licker runs around for a few more minutes before
biting me again.
This time I hoof it with my steel toe tapped boot across the room,
the dog yelps and the customer starts to complain.

Customer wants me off offsite and threatens to call the police and
report me to the RSCPA. The MD arrives and assures the customer it
was not deliberate and that I had accidentally stood on the dogs
paw. The cheeky **** of a customer then asks the MD for a discount and
about 10 seconds after him asking the fanny licker then bites the MD
in full view of the customer and the dog gets kicked across the room
for the second time in a half an hour.

In a different life I repaired a fridge freezer for an old lady. She
had a Jack Russell. We made friends, I had it rolling around on its
back. She told me not to trust it.
Job done. I was walking down her garden path to the van and the
******* shot out and bit my ankle. There was blood.
The old lady was grinning like a Cheshire cat.


Did you not treat yourself and kick it across the garden?


I was warned and I don't go around kicking little dogs.

Any dog that bites people for no reason needs to be taught a lesson.


But kicking it across the room doesnt do that.

Bet that one that bit you and your boss still bites others.

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On 26/08/2018 18:15, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
ARW wrote:
On 26/08/2018 16:54, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
ARW wrote:
It's a while since I did domestic work.

So I was really looking forward to todays job which was domestic.

Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me
so I said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no comment or ignores
me and the fanny licker runs around for a few more minutes before
biting me again.
This time I hoof it with my steel toe tapped boot across the room,
the dog yelps and the customer starts to complain.

Customer wants me off offsite and threatens to call the police and
report me to the RSCPA. The MD arrives and assures the customer it
was not deliberate and that I had accidentally stood on the dogs
paw. The cheeky **** of a customer then asks the MD for a discount and
about 10 seconds after him asking the fanny licker then bites the MD
in full view of the customer and the dog gets kicked across the room
for the second time in a half an hour.

In a different life I repaired a fridge freezer for an old lady. She
had a Jack Russell. We made friends, I had it rolling around on its
back. She told me not to trust it.
Job done. I was walking down her garden path to the van and the
******* shot out and bit my ankle. There was blood.
The old lady was grinning like a Cheshire cat.


Did you not treat yourself and kick it across the garden?

I was warned and I don't go around kicking little dogs.

Any dog that bites people for no reason needs to be taught a lesson.


Should have been taught not to bite as a pup - and no need to kick it.
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ARW wrote:
It's a while since I did domestic work.

So I was really looking forward to todays job which was domestic.

Well the customers fanny licker of a dog (it had been running around
uncontrolled and yapping for about 10 minutes) decided to bite me so I
said a very loud "OUCH". Customer makes no comment or ignores me and
the fanny licker runs around for a few more minutes before biting me
again.
This time I hoof it with my steel toe tapped boot across the room, the
dog yelps and the customer starts to complain.

Customer wants me off offsite and threatens to call the police and
report me to the RSCPA. The MD arrives and assures the customer it was
not deliberate and that I had accidentally stood on the dogs paw.

The cheeky **** of a customer then asks the MD for a discount and
about 10 seconds after him asking the fanny licker then bites the MD
in full view of the customer and the dog gets kicked across the room
for the second time in a half an hour.


In a different life I repaired a fridge freezer for an old lady. She had a
Jack Russell. We made friends, I had it rolling around on its back. She
told me not to trust it.
Job done. I was walking down her garden path to the van and the *******
shot out and bit my ankle. There was blood.
The old lady was grinning like a Cheshire cat.


Yeah, our heelers are like that, notorious for biting you on the way out.
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