Not really d-i-y...
We're doing a garage conversion. The old roof needs to be removed - it
leaks and it contains asbestos. We've received two quotes, one for just
over GBP1300, and the other for just under GBP3000.

It's a fairly large two-car garage, with a single-pitch corrugated roof.

The price spread seems extreme, with the higher one being more than
twice the lower. We're in the far north of Scotland, so there aren't
many properly licenced businesses to choose from. Both are in the same
town, so there's no difference in travel time.

I have no idea what sort of price to expect - any comments from people
here who've dealt with this?

On 10/07/2018 17:58, S Viemeister wrote:
Not really d-i-y...
We're doing a garage conversion. The old roof needs to be removed - it
leaks and it contains asbestos. We've received two quotes, one for just
over GBP1300, and the other for just under GBP3000.

It's a fairly large two-car garage, with a single-pitch corrugated roof.

The price spread seems extreme, with the higher one being more than
twice the lower. We're in the far north of Scotland, so there aren't
many properly licenced businesses to choose from. Both are in the same
town, so there's no difference in travel time.

I have no idea what sort of price to expect - any comments from people
here who've dealt with this?

Have you checked with skip hire places if they will take it?

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S Viemeister wrote:

The old roof needs to be removed - it leaks and it contains asbestos

Asbestos, or asbestos cement sheet?

Last time I checked most waste tips will take the latter provided it's
double-bagged, you might need a free permit

On 10/07/2018 17:58, S Viemeister wrote:
Not really d-i-y...
We're doing a garage conversion. The old roof needs to be removed - it
leaks and it contains asbestos. We've received two quotes, one for just
over GBP1300, and the other for just under GBP3000.

It's a fairly large two-car garage, with a single-pitch corrugated roof.

The price spread seems extreme, with the higher one being more than
twice the lower. We're in the far north of Scotland, so there aren't
many properly licenced businesses to choose from. Both are in the same
town, so there's no difference in travel time.

I have no idea what sort of price to expect - any comments from people
here who've dealt with this?
It's most likely to be asbestos cement sheet, which most larger
recycling centres will take providing that it's double-bagged
(ironically the sharp corners always seem to poke through the bags but
nobody cares), check the website and ask where the special skip is. If
it *is* asbestos cement then it's a DIY job if you take sensible
precautions (wet the sheet first, use a disposable mask and overalls,
don't create dust) and have the means to take it to the recycling
centre. There's lots of guidance on t'web, as well as people selling
1000 gauge bags.

On Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:58:27 UTC+1, S Viemeister wrote:
Not really d-i-y...
We're doing a garage conversion. The old roof needs to be removed - it
leaks and it contains asbestos. We've received two quotes, one for just
over GBP1300, and the other for just under GBP3000.

It's a fairly large two-car garage, with a single-pitch corrugated roof.

The price spread seems extreme, with the higher one being more than
twice the lower. We're in the far north of Scotland, so there aren't
many properly licenced businesses to choose from. Both are in the same
town, so there's no difference in travel time.

I have no idea what sort of price to expect - any comments from people
here who've dealt with this?

I'd expect a **** taking price like 1.3k or 3k. It's one reason we diy. DIYing it'll cost you petrol to the nearest tip & some rubbish bags.


NT

On 10/07/2018 19:53, wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:58:27 UTC+1, S Viemeister wrote:
Not really d-i-y...
We're doing a garage conversion. The old roof needs to be removed - it
leaks and it contains asbestos. We've received two quotes, one for just
over GBP1300, and the other for just under GBP3000.

It's a fairly large two-car garage, with a single-pitch corrugated roof.

The price spread seems extreme, with the higher one being more than
twice the lower. We're in the far north of Scotland, so there aren't
many properly licenced businesses to choose from. Both are in the same
town, so there's no difference in travel time.

I have no idea what sort of price to expect - any comments from people
here who've dealt with this?

I'd expect a **** taking price like 1.3k or 3k. It's one reason we diy. DIYing it'll cost you petrol to the nearest tip & some rubbish bags.


NT

The lower price doesn't sound so bad to me. Remember that the contractor
will have to pay a disposal charge as well. (Or at least, they would in
England).

In message ,
writes
On Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:58:27 UTC+1, S Viemeister wrote:
Not really d-i-y...
We're doing a garage conversion. The old roof needs to be removed - it
leaks and it contains asbestos. We've received two quotes, one for just
over GBP1300, and the other for just under GBP3000.

It's a fairly large two-car garage, with a single-pitch corrugated roof.

The price spread seems extreme, with the higher one being more than
twice the lower. We're in the far north of Scotland, so there aren't
many properly licenced businesses to choose from. Both are in the same
town, so there's no difference in travel time.

I have no idea what sort of price to expect - any comments from people
here who've dealt with this?

I'd expect a **** taking price like 1.3k or 3k. It's one reason we diy.
DIYing it'll cost you petrol to the nearest tip & some rubbish bags.

I skipped a barn roof of big six cement bonded asbestos. Long way South
of you but there is a tip near Hitchin which is allowed to take the
stuff.

If you can't get it gone through the domestic waste sites you could
consider if a special skip hire would cost less than the quotes. As
others have said, with sensible precautions, handling roofing is not
dangerous.

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On Tuesday, 10 July 2018 21:43:56 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
On 10/07/2018 19:53, tabbypurr wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:58:27 UTC+1, S Viemeister wrote:

Not really d-i-y...
We're doing a garage conversion. The old roof needs to be removed - it
leaks and it contains asbestos. We've received two quotes, one for just
over GBP1300, and the other for just under GBP3000.

It's a fairly large two-car garage, with a single-pitch corrugated roof.

The price spread seems extreme, with the higher one being more than
twice the lower. We're in the far north of Scotland, so there aren't
many properly licenced businesses to choose from. Both are in the same
town, so there's no difference in travel time.

I have no idea what sort of price to expect - any comments from people
here who've dealt with this?

I'd expect a **** taking price like 1.3k or 3k. It's one reason we diy. DIYing it'll cost you petrol to the nearest tip & some rubbish bags.


NT

The lower price doesn't sound so bad to me. Remember that the contractor
will have to pay a disposal charge as well. (Or at least, they would in
England).

OK, I can come rip your garage roof off & drive down the dump in one day for £1300. I'll even bring a halfwit.


NT

On 10/07/2018 22:02, wrote:


OK, I can come rip your garage roof off & drive down the dump in one
day for £1300. I'll even bring a halfwit.

ooh a wholewit doing the job.

Often it depends on what they themselves do with the stuff, Mostly its
double bagged labelled and taken to an authorised disposal site which in
itself can charge. I find it rather amusing that it is in fact buried, as
there is no way to get rid of it. Obviously asbestos cement is not as
dangerous as fibrous stuff used for lagging and fireproofing in the old
days, often called blue asbestos When they did my garage, completely made
of asbestos cement and steel girders, they did it on a damp day all workers
wore some form of boiler suit and face masks and cleaned up the site with
water and sucked up as much of the dust as possible. However I'm not aware
that in reality, that the cement is really dangerous unless you start
grinding it into dust or something else rather silly. I think the lower
price or maybe a bit more is realistic down 'sarf' where I am, but one must
make sure that the company is licensed to do this work so if things go wrong
and its fly tipped or dumped badly, your name is not in the frame for it.
Brian

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"S Viemeister" wrote in message
...
Not really d-i-y...
We're doing a garage conversion. The old roof needs to be removed - it
leaks and it contains asbestos. We've received two quotes, one for just
over GBP1300, and the other for just under GBP3000.

It's a fairly large two-car garage, with a single-pitch corrugated roof.

The price spread seems extreme, with the higher one being more than twice
the lower. We're in the far north of Scotland, so there aren't many
properly licenced businesses to choose from. Both are in the same town, so
there's no difference in travel time.

I have no idea what sort of price to expect - any comments from people
here who've dealt with this?

On 10/07/2018 19:53, wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:58:27 UTC+1, S Viemeister wrote:
Not really d-i-y... We're doing a garage conversion. The old roof
needs to be removed - it leaks and it contains asbestos. We've
received two quotes, one for just over GBP1300, and the other for
just under GBP3000.

It's a fairly large two-car garage, with a single-pitch corrugated
roof.

The price spread seems extreme, with the higher one being more
than twice the lower. We're in the far north of Scotland, so there
aren't many properly licenced businesses to choose from. Both are
in the same town, so there's no difference in travel time.

I have no idea what sort of price to expect - any comments from
people here who've dealt with this?

I'd expect a **** taking price like 1.3k or 3k. It's one reason we
diy. DIYing it'll cost you petrol to the nearest tip & some rubbish
bags.

The lower of the two probably isn't all that outrageous if they are
doing it safely. You only get a pair of lungs and dying of asbestosis or
worse mesothelioma is extremely unpleasant. The risk from asbestos
cement board is much less than from fibrous lagging but still not zero.

It cost Malcolm McLaren his life. How lucky do you feel punk?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...n-1941253.html

I would be prepared to DIY but I have access to a disposable boilersuit,
respirator and know how to do it. I wouldn't recommend it for DIY.

Even with DIY you will have to double bag in approved pink bags and pay
per bag at the tip for asbestos waste unless you intend to fly tip.

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On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 22:29:07 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

On 10/07/2018 22:02, wrote:

OK, I can come rip your garage roof off & drive down the dump in one
day for £1300. I'll even bring a halfwit.

ooh a wholewit doing the job.

no, no, no! this is halfxhalf=quarter!
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 17:58:27 +0100, S Viemeister
wrote:

We're in the far north of Scotland, so there aren't
many properly licenced businesses to choose from. Both are in the same
town, so there's no difference in travel time.


Removal of asbestos cement does not require an asbestos licensed
company.

https://www.aberdeenshire.gov.uk/med...os-2017-v2.pdf

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/guidance/em9.pdf

On 7/10/2018 9:55 PM, Tim Lamb wrote:

I skipped a barn roof of big six cement bonded asbestos. Long way South
of you but there is a tip near Hitchin which is allowed to take the stuff.

If you can't get it gone through the domestic waste sites you could
consider if a special skip hire would cost less than the quotes. As
others have said, with sensible precautions, handling roofing is not
dangerous.

We're checking out skip hire - but neither one of us feels comfortable
clambering about on roofs, and there's enough other stuff needing doing
on the conversion, that we'd rather put our energy into that.

Our local tip does not appear to take asbestos waste, and we'd need to
rent a suitable vehicle to carry it.

The garage is to have a fully handicap-accessible shower room, a utility
area, and a workshop, which can later be turned into a bedroom should we
need live-in carers in the future. The floor will be raised to the same
height as the main part of the house (it's an attached garage), so that
walking frames and/or wheelchairs can navigate without obstacles.

On Wednesday, 11 July 2018 09:28:13 UTC+1, Martin Brown wrote:
On 10/07/2018 19:53, tabbypurr wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:58:27 UTC+1, S Viemeister wrote:

Not really d-i-y... We're doing a garage conversion. The old roof
needs to be removed - it leaks and it contains asbestos. We've
received two quotes, one for just over GBP1300, and the other for
just under GBP3000.

It's a fairly large two-car garage, with a single-pitch corrugated
roof.

The price spread seems extreme, with the higher one being more
than twice the lower. We're in the far north of Scotland, so there
aren't many properly licenced businesses to choose from. Both are
in the same town, so there's no difference in travel time.

I have no idea what sort of price to expect - any comments from
people here who've dealt with this?

I'd expect a **** taking price like 1.3k or 3k. It's one reason we
diy. DIYing it'll cost you petrol to the nearest tip & some rubbish
bags.

The lower of the two probably isn't all that outrageous if they are
doing it safely. You only get a pair of lungs and dying of asbestosis or
worse mesothelioma is extremely unpleasant. The risk from asbestos
cement board is much less than from fibrous lagging but still not zero.

With cement board that's not disintegrating it's as near to zero as it gets.

It cost Malcolm McLaren his life. How lucky do you feel punk?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...n-1941253.html

your link gives no evidence whatever that it cost him his life. Just someone's guess.


I would be prepared to DIY but I have access to a disposable boilersuit,
respirator and know how to do it. I wouldn't recommend it for DIY.

Even with DIY you will have to double bag in approved pink bags and pay
per bag at the tip for asbestos waste unless you intend to fly tip.

which costs next to nothing.


NT

On 10/07/18 18:27, Andy Burns wrote:
S Viemeister wrote:

The old roof needs to be removed - it leaks and it contains asbestos

Asbestos, or asbestos cement sheet?

Last time I checked most waste tips will take the latter provided it's
double-bagged, you might need a free permit

corrugated roof panel type asbestos is a very low risk thing. You may
not even need to remove it from the site. When I had that problem on a
shed it was alright to carefully break it up and then put it under the
floor and pour the new concrete slab onto it.
TW

On 7/11/2018 12:51 PM, TimW wrote:

corrugated roof panel type asbestos is a very low risk thing. You may
not even need to remove it from the site. When I had that problem on a
shed it was alright to carefully break it up and then put it under the
floor and pour the new concrete slab onto it.

There will be a floating floor type construction over the existing
concrete floor of the garage, to raise its level to that of the main house.
That means of disposal could be a possibility for an old shed with a
similar roof - it has a perimeter foundation with gravel flooring, and
we are considering pouring a concrete floor there.

In message , S Viemeister
writes
On 7/11/2018 12:51 PM, TimW wrote:

corrugated roof panel type asbestos is a very low risk thing. You may
not even need to remove it from the site. When I had that problem on a
shed it was alright to carefully break it up and then put it under the
floor and pour the new concrete slab onto it.

There will be a floating floor type construction over the existing
concrete floor of the garage, to raise its level to that of the main
house.
That means of disposal could be a possibility for an old shed with a
similar roof - it has a perimeter foundation with gravel flooring, and
we are considering pouring a concrete floor there.

Umm.. I wouldn't. Another traditional disposal is the rainwater
soakaway.

When you come to sell the property some legal executive will enquire if
there is any asbestos on site.


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Huge Wrote in message:
On 2018-07-11, TimW wrote:
On 10/07/18 18:27, Andy Burns wrote:
S Viemeister wrote:

The old roof needs to be removed - it leaks and it contains asbestos

Asbestos, or asbestos cement sheet?

Last time I checked most waste tips will take the latter provided it's
double-bagged, you might need a free permit

corrugated roof panel type asbestos is a very low risk thing.

When the farmer next door had an asbestos cement board barn taken down
by specialist contractors, the guys doing it wore respirators and Tyvek
suits, but they stacked the board on pallets and took it away on a
standard open truck.


and threw it in a quiet hole prepared by said farmer?
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On 7/11/2018 2:32 PM, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , S Viemeister
writes
On 7/11/2018 12:51 PM, TimW wrote:

corrugated roof panel type asbestos is a very low risk thing. You may
not even need to remove it from the site. When I had that problem on a
shed it was alright to carefully break it up and then put it under the
floor and pour the new concrete slab onto it.

There will be a floating floor type construction over the existing
concrete floor of the garage, to raise its level to that of the main
house.
That means of disposal could be a possibility for an old shed with a
similar roof - it has a perimeter foundation with gravel flooring, and
we are considering pouring a concrete floor there.

Umm.. I wouldn't. Another traditional disposal is the rainwater soakaway.

When you come to sell the property some legal executive will enquire if
there is any asbestos on site.

Good point. I don't want to saddle the kids with problems when we kick off.

Huge Wrote in message:
On 2018-07-11, Jim K wrote:
Huge Wrote in message:
On 2018-07-11, TimW wrote:
On 10/07/18 18:27, Andy Burns wrote:
S Viemeister wrote:

The old roof needs to be removed - it leaks and it contains asbestos

Asbestos, or asbestos cement sheet?

Last time I checked most waste tips will take the latter provided it's
double-bagged, you might need a free permit

corrugated roof panel type asbestos is a very low risk thing.

When the farmer next door had an asbestos cement board barn taken down
by specialist contractors, the guys doing it wore respirators and Tyvek
suits, but they stacked the board on pallets and took it away on a
standard open truck.


and threw it in a quiet hole prepared by said farmer?

Don't know. Don't care.

Seems unlikely since the work was actually being done by the property
developer to whom he had sold the barn, and since it was adjacent to
our house, I checked it was being done by a pukka asbestos clearance
company.



So much for your kill file...
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S Viemeister Wrote in message:
On 7/11/2018 2:32 PM, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , S Viemeister
writes
On 7/11/2018 12:51 PM, TimW wrote:

corrugated roof panel type asbestos is a very low risk thing. You may
not even need to remove it from the site. When I had that problem on a
shed it was alright to carefully break it up and then put it under the
floor and pour the new concrete slab onto it.

There will be a floating floor type construction over the existing
concrete floor of the garage, to raise its level to that of the main
house.
That means of disposal could be a possibility for an old shed with a
similar roof - it has a perimeter foundation with gravel flooring, and
we are considering pouring a concrete floor there.

Umm.. I wouldn't. Another traditional disposal is the rainwater soakaway.

When you come to sell the property some legal executive will enquire if
there is any asbestos on site.

Good point. I don't want to saddle the kids with problems when we kick off.



How will they know if you don't tell them?
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On 11 Jul 2018 16:45:23 GMT, Huge wrote:

When the farmer next door had an asbestos cement board barn taken down
by specialist contractors, the guys doing it wore respirators and Tyvek
suits, but they stacked the board on pallets and took it away on a
standard open truck.

Much as I did but I put it in hippo type bags with some old dpm as a
liner and cover wrap. We delivered it to a licensed landfill in Kent
who charged about 30 quid for the conveyance note and £160/tonne with
a minimum charge of £500+VAT. Which, at the time about 4 years ago,
was only double that for land fill of inert waste.

AJH

On 11/07/2018 19:18, S Viemeister wrote:
On 7/11/2018 2:32 PM, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , S Viemeister
writes
On 7/11/2018 12:51 PM, TimW wrote:

corrugated roof panel type asbestos is a very low risk thing. You may
not even need to remove it from the site. When I had that problem on a
shed it was alright to carefully break it up and then put it under the
floor and pour the new concrete slab onto it.

There will be a floating floor type construction over the existing
concrete floor of the garage, to raise its level to that of the main
house.
That means of disposal could be a possibility for an old shed with a
similar roof - it has a perimeter foundation with gravel flooring, and
we are considering pouring a concrete floor there.

Umm.. I wouldn't. Another traditional disposal is the rainwater soakaway.

When you come to sell the property some legal executive will enquire if
there is any asbestos on site.

Good point. I don't want to saddle the kids with problems when we kick off.

Then don't tell em ;-)


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Huge Wrote in message:
On 2018-07-11, Jim K wrote:
Huge Wrote in message:
On 2018-07-11, Jim K wrote:
Huge Wrote in message:
On 2018-07-11, TimW wrote:
On 10/07/18 18:27, Andy Burns wrote:
S Viemeister wrote:

The old roof needs to be removed - it leaks and it contains asbestos

Asbestos, or asbestos cement sheet?

Last time I checked most waste tips will take the latter provided it's
double-bagged, you might need a free permit

corrugated roof panel type asbestos is a very low risk thing.

When the farmer next door had an asbestos cement board barn taken down
by specialist contractors, the guys doing it wore respirators and Tyvek
suits, but they stacked the board on pallets and took it away on a
standard open truck.


and threw it in a quiet hole prepared by said farmer?

Don't know. Don't care.

Seems unlikely since the work was actually being done by the property
developer to whom he had sold the barn, and since it was adjacent to
our house, I checked it was being done by a pukka asbestos clearance
company.



So much for your kill file...

What's the contents of my killfile got to do with you, ****?



I'm supposed to be in it you dopy dickhead.
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On 11/07/2018 09:51, Peter Parry wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 17:58:27 +0100, S Viemeister
wrote:

We're in the far north of Scotland, so there aren't
many properly licenced businesses to choose from. Both are in the same
town, so there's no difference in travel time.


Removal of asbestos cement does not require an asbestos licensed
company.

https://www.aberdeenshire.gov.uk/med...os-2017-v2.pdf

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/guidance/em9.pdf




I didn't know that, but it is still quite confusing. Just because it is
exempt from CDG doesn't mean that local tips will accept it without
double bagging, etc.

My LA will accept householder removed cement asbestos but require you to
use their bags, and book a delivery slot in advance. They also say this

"Please note we only provide a limited number of bags for this purpose
and only those bags will be accepted when you deliver these to your
nearest Household Recycling Centre"

but I don't know whether they would supply enough for a garage roof. It
looks as though they won't accept full sheets.

I don't know if they insist on double bagging, but I suppose you only
need to use "their" bag for the outside.

On 12/07/18 10:16, Huge wrote:
"What's the contents of
my killfile got to do with
you?"

Well Huge, a lot. If I am in it.

Cos then I know trying to educate your ignorance will be futile, since
your fingers are as firmly in your ears as they are up your arse.



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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 09:14:51 +0100, newshound wrote:

I don't know if they insist on double bagging, but I suppose you
only need to use "their" bag for the outside.

Why don't you ask them? Or the local environment protection people?
Are you seriously going to rely on the advice from a d-i-y group?

On 11/07/2018 07:47, Brian Gaff wrote:
I find it rather amusing that it is in fact buried, as
there is no way to get rid of it.

It came out of the ground to start with !!.

Mostly from places in South Africa and Oz.

Burying it under a thick layer of disposable nappies
is probably the best way to dispose of it.

On 12/07/2018 10:41, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 12/07/18 10:16, Huge wrote:
"What'sÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* theÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* contentsÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* of
Â*Â*Â* myÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* killfileÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â* gotÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* toÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* doÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* with
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* you?"

Well Huge, a lot. If I am in it.

Cos then I know trying to educate your ignorance will be futile, since
your fingers are as firmly in your ears as they are up your arse.




What ?. Same hand, simultaneously ?.

On 10/07/18 17:58, S Viemeister wrote:
Not really d-i-y...
We're doing a garage conversion. The old roof needs to be removed - it
leaks and it contains asbestos. We've received two quotes, one for just
over GBP1300, and the other for just under GBP3000.

It's a fairly large two-car garage, with a single-pitch corrugated roof.


I visited a fairly large and old asbestos sheeted garage today, could
park six estate cars in there, two side by side and the rest piled on
top. OK, that's maybe a silly guide but ye get the idea.

Looking at the roof, it's possibly that 10% cement based thing, that
could be DIY bagged. The walls however are also asbestos sheet of a
different color and look.

Owner bought the place in 2011. I wonder if the surveyors pointed out
the construction and future costs.

The thing looks an eyesore, broken windows etc....

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In article , Andrew Andrew97d-
scribeth thus
On 11/07/2018 07:47, Brian Gaff wrote:
I find it rather amusing that it is in fact buried, as
there is no way to get rid of it.

It came out of the ground to start with !!.

Mostly from places in South Africa and Oz.

Burying it under a thick layer of disposable nappies
is probably the best way to dispose of it.

Place near Peterborough takes it they have a hole there it seems to be
around 300 odd foot deep!..
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On 12/07/18 14:47, Andrew wrote:
On 12/07/2018 10:41, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 12/07/18 10:16, Huge wrote:
"What'sÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* theÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* contentsÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* of
Â*Â*Â* myÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* killfileÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â* gotÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* toÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* doÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* with
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* you?"

Well Huge, a lot. If I am in it.

Cos then I know trying to educate your ignorance will be futile, since
your fingers are as firmly in your ears as they are up your arse.




What ?. Same hand, simultaneously ?.
Yup.

One trick pony


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On Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:58:27 UTC+1, S Viemeister wrote:
Not really d-i-y...
We're doing a garage conversion. The old roof needs to be removed - it
leaks and it contains asbestos. We've received two quotes, one for just
over GBP1300, and the other for just under GBP3000.

It's a fairly large two-car garage, with a single-pitch corrugated roof.

The price spread seems extreme, with the higher one being more than
twice the lower. We're in the far north of Scotland, so there aren't
many properly licenced businesses to choose from. Both are in the same
town, so there's no difference in travel time.

I have no idea what sort of price to expect - any comments from people
here who've dealt with this?


You can DIY.
Here is the official government info.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/guidance/a14.pdf

On 12/07/2018 11:50, mechanic wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 09:14:51 +0100, newshound wrote:

I don't know if they insist on double bagging, but I suppose you
only need to use "their" bag for the outside.

Why don't you ask them? Or the local environment protection people?

Yup worth doing...

Are you seriously going to rely on the advice from a d-i-y group?

In many cases yes, why not? Ultimately you are not taking advice from a
faceless "group", but from individuals - many of whom have professional
experience in a range of disciplines. If you have been around here a
while you soon learn which can be relied on for sound advice on various
topics.


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Huge Wrote in message:
On 2018-07-12, Jim K wrote:
Huge Wrote in message:
On 2018-07-11, Jim K wrote:
Huge Wrote in message:
On 2018-07-11, Jim K wrote:
Huge Wrote in message:
On 2018-07-11, TimW wrote:
On 10/07/18 18:27, Andy Burns wrote:
S Viemeister wrote:

The old roof needs to be removed - it leaks and it contains asbestos

Asbestos, or asbestos cement sheet?

Last time I checked most waste tips will take the latter provided it's
double-bagged, you might need a free permit

corrugated roof panel type asbestos is a very low risk thing.

When the farmer next door had an asbestos cement board barn taken down
by specialist contractors, the guys doing it wore respirators and Tyvek
suits, but they stacked the board on pallets and took it away on a
standard open truck.


and threw it in a quiet hole prepared by said farmer?

Don't know. Don't care.

Seems unlikely since the work was actually being done by the property
developer to whom he had sold the barn, and since it was adjacent to
our house, I checked it was being done by a pukka asbestos clearance
company.



So much for your kill file...

What's the contents of my killfile got to do with you, ****?



I'm supposed to be in it you dopy dickhead.

You don't read too good, do you, ****head? I'll type it slowly so you
can understand; "What's the contents of
my killfile got to do with
you?"

Perhaps get a grownup to explain?




Sanctimonious prick as ever I see,
**** 9ff, is that easier for you to understand?


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John Rumm Wrote in message:
On 12/07/2018 11:50, mechanic wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 09:14:51 +0100, newshound wrote:

I don't know if they insist on double bagging, but I suppose you
only need to use "their" bag for the outside.

Why don't you ask them? Or the local environment protection people?

Yup worth doing...

Are you seriously going to rely on the advice from a d-i-y group?

In many cases yes, why not? Ultimately you are not taking advice from a
faceless "group", but from individuals - many of whom have professional
experience in a range of disciplines. If you have been around here a
while you soon learn which can be relied on for sound advice on various
topics.



Hehe
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On 11/07/2018 09:28, Martin Brown wrote:
On 10/07/2018 19:53, wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:58:27 UTC+1, S ViemeisterÂ* wrote:
Not really d-i-y... We're doing a garage conversion. The old roof
needs to be removed - it leaks and it contains asbestos. We've
received two quotes, one for just over GBP1300, and the other for
just under GBP3000.

It's a fairly large two-car garage, with a single-pitch corrugated
roof.

The price spread seems extreme, with the higher one being more
than twice the lower. We're in the far north of Scotland, so there
aren't many properly licenced businesses to choose from. Both are
in the same town, so there's no difference in travel time.

I have no idea what sort of price to expect - any comments from
people here who've dealt with this?

I'd expect a **** taking price like 1.3k or 3k. It's one reason we
diy. DIYing it'll cost you petrol to the nearest tip & some rubbish
bags.

The lower of the two probably isn't all that outrageous if they are
doing it safely. You only get a pair of lungs and dying of asbestosis or
worse mesothelioma is extremely unpleasant. The risk from asbestos
cement board is much less than from fibrous lagging but still not zero.

It cost Malcolm McLaren his life. How lucky do you feel punk?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...n-1941253.html


I would be prepared to DIY but I have access to a disposable boilersuit,
respirator and know how to do it. I wouldn't recommend it for DIY.

Even with DIY you will have to double bag in approved pink bags and pay
per bag at the tip for asbestos waste unless you intend to fly tip.

It depends on your council. Ours requires asbestos cement sheets to be
double bagged and placed in their dedicated, closed topped, asbestos
skip. They do not require any specific type of bag and they do not
charge householders.

SteveW

On Thursday, 12 July 2018 20:08:46 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 12/07/2018 11:50, mechanic wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 09:14:51 +0100, newshound wrote:

I don't know if they insist on double bagging, but I suppose you
only need to use "their" bag for the outside.

Why don't you ask them? Or the local environment protection people?

Yup worth doing...

Are you seriously going to rely on the advice from a d-i-y group?

In many cases yes, why not? Ultimately you are not taking advice from a
faceless "group", but from individuals - many of whom have professional
experience in a range of disciplines. If you have been around here a
while you soon learn which can be relied on for sound advice on various
topics.

hard to find a better place for diy enquiries. Perhaps 'mechanic' knows of one.


NT

On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 20:08:44 +0100, John Rumm wrote:

On 12/07/2018 11:50, mechanic wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 09:14:51 +0100, newshound wrote:

I don't know if they insist on double bagging, but I suppose you
only need to use "their" bag for the outside.

Why don't you ask them? Or the local environment protection people?

Yup worth doing...

Are you seriously going to rely on the advice from a d-i-y group?

In many cases yes, why not? Ultimately you are not taking advice from a
faceless "group", but from individuals - many of whom have professional
experience in a range of disciplines. If you have been around here a
while you soon learn which can be relied on for sound advice on various
topics.

Hmm, I often wonder why such highly skilled experts have so much
free time to comment in newsgroups. Any decent plumber etc. round
here is far too busy to do so.