I need one. Manually operated, not more than £150. Must be able to fold sheet metal 1000mm wide. Ideas or experience anyone?

Bill

On 27/05/2018 21:45, Bill Wright wrote:
I need one. Manually operated, not more than £150. Must be able to fold sheet metal 1000mm wide. Ideas or experience anyone?

You should also specify the thickness and material of the metal you wish
to bend.




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Old Codger wrote:
On 27/05/2018 21:45, Bill Wright wrote:
I need one. Manually operated, not more than £150. Must be able to
fold sheet metal 1000mm wide. Ideas or experience anyone?

You should also specify the thickness and material of the metal you wish
to bend.




Even so 1m wide is a tall order for 150 notes.

Needs to be rigid over 1m = loads-a-metal

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Wright writes
I need one. Manually operated, not more than £150. Must be able to fold
sheet metal 1000mm wide. Ideas or experience anyone?

I have one:-) Cost me £2.50 when they closed the electronics assembly
dept.

Just about does 3mm mild steel. There are limitations to how many sides
you can fold with this type of tackle. Easy to fold a 2mx1m sheet in
half but 4 sides on a tray would be restricted to around 25mm upstand.

Can't you find a fabricator near you.

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On Sunday, 27 May 2018 22:08:25 UTC+1, Old Codger wrote:
On Normal stuff, of course. I'm not building an army tank. 2mm aluminium or 1mm steel.

Bill
27/05/2018 21:45, Bill Wright wrote:
I need one. Manually operated, not more than £150. Must be able to fold sheet metal 1000mm wide. Ideas or experience anyone?

You should also specify the thickness and material of the metal you wish
to bend.




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On Sunday, 27 May 2018 22:52:26 UTC+1, Tim Lamb wrote:

Can't you find a fabricator near you.

Well, I'm doing bits and pieces all the time. A lot of vehicle body stuff at the moment.

Bill

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Wright writes
On Sunday, 27 May 2018 22:52:26 UTC+1, Tim Lamb wrote:

Can't you find a fabricator near you.

Well, I'm doing bits and pieces all the time. A lot of vehicle body
stuff at the moment.

Rarely flat except Landrover:-)

You can do a lot with a 6" bench vice, two lengths of strong angle iron
and a G cramp or two. Where the fold is deeper than the vice jaw depth,
work to one side and use the cramp to grip the angle iron and secure the
piece.

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On Sun, 27 May 2018 21:24:46 -0700, Bill Wright wrote:

On Sunday, 27 May 2018 22:52:26 UTC+1, Tim Lamb wrote:

Can't you find a fabricator near you.

Well, I'm doing bits and pieces all the time. A lot of vehicle body
stuff at the moment.

Bill

Then you will only rarely want anything as thick as 2mm for structural
chassis box sections, outriggers and stuff. Most car panelwork like wings
& doors is sub 1mm.



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In article , Bill
Wright scribeth thus
I need one. Manually operated, not more than £150. Must be able to fold sheet
metal 1000mm wide. Ideas or experience anyone?

Bill

Machine mart do one or two of them..



https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/cmf2...-metal-folder/
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On Monday, 28 May 2018 12:12:12 UTC+1, tony sayer wrote:
In article , Bill
Wright scribeth thus

I need one. Manually operated, not more than £150. Must be able to fold sheet
metal 1000mm wide. Ideas or experience anyone?

Bill

Machine mart do one or two of them..



https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/cmf2...-metal-folder/

The one I made with scrap wood bent 1.6mm steel 19" wide. 1mm is what, 0.39 as stiff so the same design could probably manage 19/.39 = 48" with much thicker wood. So it looks like it could do it. The corners aren't as sharp as a machine mart thing, but that's not usually an issue for car work. Add some thick L shaped steel if you want sharp corners.
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...t_Metal_Bender


NT

On 28/05/2018 09:29, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Bill
Wright writes
On Sunday, 27 May 2018 22:52:26 UTC+1, Tim LambÂ* wrote:

Can't you find a fabricator near you.

Well, I'm doing bits and pieces all the time. A lot of vehicle body
stuff at the moment.

Rarely flat except Landrover:-)

It's a motorhome. Lots of flat areas.

You can do a lot with a 6" bench vice, two lengths of strong angle iron
and a G cramp or two. Where the fold is deeper than the vice jaw depth,
work to one side and use the cramp to grip the angle iron and secure the
piece.


Been doing just that but I'm fed up of it.

Bill

On 28/05/2018 10:32, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 27 May 2018 21:24:46 -0700, Bill Wright wrote:

On Sunday, 27 May 2018 22:52:26 UTC+1, Tim Lamb wrote:

Can't you find a fabricator near you.

Well, I'm doing bits and pieces all the time. A lot of vehicle body
stuff at the moment.

Bill

Then you will only rarely want anything as thick as 2mm for structural
chassis box sections, outriggers and stuff. Most car panelwork like wings
& doors is sub 1mm.



I have been using 1.5mm aluminium, mostly. Sometimes 2mm is better.

Bill

On 28/05/2018 12:10, tony sayer wrote:

Machine mart do one or two of them..



https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/cmf2...-metal-folder/

Not wide enough.

Bill

On 28/05/2018 19:06, wrote:

The one I made with scrap wood bent 1.6mm steel 19" wide. 1mm is what, 0.39 as stiff so the same design could probably manage 19/.39 = 48" with much thicker wood. So it looks like it could do it. The corners aren't as sharp as a machine mart thing, but that's not usually an issue for car work. Add some thick L shaped steel if you want sharp corners.
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...t_Metal_Bender

No pretty pictures!

Bill

On Monday, 28 May 2018 20:54:02 UTC+1, Bill Wright wrote:
On 28/05/2018 19:06, tabbypurr wrote:

The one I made with scrap wood bent 1.6mm steel 19" wide. 1mm is what, 0.39 as stiff so the same design could probably manage 19/.39 = 48" with much thicker wood. So it looks like it could do it. The corners aren't as sharp as a machine mart thing, but that's not usually an issue for car work. Add some thick L shaped steel if you want sharp corners.
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...t_Metal_Bender

No pretty pictures!

Bill

It's got ugly pictures, what more do you want?


NT

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scribeth thus
On 28/05/2018 12:10, tony sayer wrote:

Machine mart do one or two of them..



https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/cmf2...-metal-folder/

Not wide enough.

Bill

Unless you can find an old press second-hand then perhaps best to make a
longer copy of that one

They had one and an Edwards trucut guillotine up at the old hospital
when they closed the workshop down. Let me know what you want for those
if your selling please?.


Wallies threw them out before they even told me!..

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On Mon, 28 May 2018 20:49:28 +0100, Bill Wright wrote:


I have been using 1.5mm aluminium, mostly. Sometimes 2mm is better.

Bill

My remarks were applicable to mild steel. Folding aluminium I have no
experience of (except to say trying to fold ally that's too thick will
end up with stress fractures along the axis of the fold. Both unsightly
and strength compromised.





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On 28/05/2018 09:29, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message ,
Bill Wright writes
On Sunday, 27 May 2018 22:52:26 UTC+1, Tim Lamb* wrote:

Can't you find a fabricator near you.

Well, I'm doing bits and pieces all the time. A lot of vehicle body
stuff at the moment.
Rarely flat except Landrover:-)

It's a motorhome. Lots of flat areas.
You can do a lot with a 6" bench vice, two lengths of strong angle
iron and a G cramp or two. Where the fold is deeper than the vice jaw
depth, work to one side and use the cramp to grip the angle iron and
secure the piece.


Been doing just that but I'm fed up of it.

Hmm.. I think my Kingsland does up to 48"

There is a Sealey DF910 in your budget range. (910mm)

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Bill Wright wrote:

wrote:

The one I made with scrap wood bent 1.6mm steel 19" wide.
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...t_Metal_Bender

No pretty pictures!

There's several pretty videos on youtube ...

On 27/05/2018 21:45, Bill Wright wrote:
I need one. Manually operated, not more than £150. Must be able to fold sheet metal 1000mm wide. Ideas or experience anyone?


I would have thought your best bet was a second hand machine tool
dealer: the sort working out of a collection of sheds, rather than one
with shiny showrooms. They are far more likely to have a foot treadle
folder sitting, almost forgotten, in a corner somewhere. I am long out
of touch with prices though.

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In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
I need one. Manually operated, not more than £150. Must be able to fold
sheet metal 1000mm wide. Ideas or experience anyone?

Look for auctions of workshops etc selling up. Such things can go for
little over the scrap value - so a lot cheaper than new. And pro equipment
is usually much better made than Machine Mart type stuff.

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On 29/05/2018 11:03, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
I need one. Manually operated, not more than £150. Must be able to fold
sheet metal 1000mm wide. Ideas or experience anyone?

Look for auctions of workshops etc selling up. Such things can go for
little over the scrap value - so a lot cheaper than new. And pro equipment
is usually much better made than Machine Mart type stuff.


Indeed - I'm on a couple of mailing lists - https://www.ppauctions.com/
- have some interesting sales.

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scribeth thus
On 29/05/2018 11:03, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
I need one. Manually operated, not more than £150. Must be able to fold
sheet metal 1000mm wide. Ideas or experience anyone?

Look for auctions of workshops etc selling up. Such things can go for
little over the scrap value - so a lot cheaper than new. And pro equipment
is usually much better made than Machine Mart type stuff.


Indeed - I'm on a couple of mailing lists - https://www.ppauctions.com/
- have some interesting sales.


Yes bought from them sometimes but the auction concerned is always up
the other end of the blinking country...
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