Very little when I had a look.


--
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 19:40:34 +0100, ARW
wrote:

Very little when I had a look.

Glasgow, St Enoch had a lot last time I visited.

On 4/4/2018 7:42 PM, Scott wrote:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 19:40:34 +0100, ARW
wrote:

Very little when I had a look.

Glasgow, St Enoch had a lot last time I visited.

East Kilbride looking very empty ....

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On 4/4/2018 7:42 PM, Scott wrote:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 19:40:34 +0100, ARW
wrote:

Very little when I had a look.

Glasgow, St Enoch had a lot last time I visited.

bring back RME ....

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"ARW" wrote in message
...
Very little when I had a look.

Strange.

In three branches in West London I've looked in, they've still got plenty of stock.

Although any real bargains may have been cherry picked

Their windows are plastered with two posters.

"Up to 20% off" and "Everything Must Go".

But as newspaper articles have pointed out even at 20% off, a lot of their stuff is
cheaper elsewhere - with sellers who might be able to honour guarantees.

While if it really is "Everything Must Go" no clearance specialist or auction sales
would offer them anything anywhere near to 80% retail. So theyl'll have to move
on the 20%. off.


michael adams

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On Wednesday, 4 April 2018 20:00:13 UTC+1, michael adams wrote:
"ARW" wrote in message
...
Very little when I had a look.

Strange.

In three branches in West London I've looked in, they've still got plenty of stock.

Although any real bargains may have been cherry picked

Their windows are plastered with two posters.

"Up to 20% off" and "Everything Must Go".

But as newspaper articles have pointed out even at 20% off, a lot of their stuff is
cheaper elsewhere - with sellers who might be able to honour guarantees.

While if it really is "Everything Must Go" no clearance specialist or auction sales
would offer them anything anywhere near to 80% retail. So theyl'll have to move
on the 20%. off.


michael adams

that's true of nearly every 'everything must go' sale. Once once have I seen retail stuff all 90% off. A lot of it still wasn't worth buying.


NT

michael adams wrote:

ARW wrote:
Very little when I had a look.

In three branches in West London I've looked in, they've still got plenty of stock.

I've been in two; while buying what I went in for, I trawled the shelves
and didn't really see anything else worth buying.

Their windows are plastered with two posters.
"Up to 20% off" and "Everything Must Go".

Different types of items were 10%, 20%, 40%

a lot of their stuff is cheaper elsewhere

yep

wrote in message
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On Wednesday, 4 April 2018 20:00:13 UTC+1, michael adams wrote:
"ARW" wrote in message
...
Very little when I had a look.

Strange.

In three branches in West London I've looked in, they've still got plenty of stock.

Although any real bargains may have been cherry picked

Their windows are plastered with two posters.

"Up to 20% off" and "Everything Must Go".

But as newspaper articles have pointed out even at 20% off, a lot of their stuff is
cheaper elsewhere - with sellers who might be able to honour guarantees.

While if it really is "Everything Must Go" no clearance specialist or auction sales
would offer them anything anywhere near to 80% retail. So theyl'll have to move
on the 20%. off.


michael adams

that's true of nearly every 'everything must go' sale. Once once have I seen retail
stuff all 90% off. A lot of it still wasn't worth buying.


NT

It may be that they're moving stock out of branches so they end up with maybe a few
regional
branches acting as clearance outlets with rock bottom prices.

This will then also make it more convenient for clearance people to make them an offer.


michael adams

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On 04/04/2018 19:40, ARW wrote:
Very little when I had a look.


Even their reduced prices are more than you would pay on the
internet.

tabbypurr wrote:

once have I seen retail stuff all 90% off. A lot of it still wasn't worth buying.

If I was the boss of CPC, I'd be worried about the proportion of
"maplin style tat" in stock/catalogues ...

On Wednesday, 4 April 2018 21:02:21 UTC+1, Andy Burns wrote:
If I was the boss of CPC, I'd be worried about the proportion of
"maplin style tat" in stock/catalogues ...

People still buy "maplin style tat", they just don't buy it from Maplin. Just like Woolworths folded because they sold poundshop goods at Woolworths prices.

CPC have their industrial customer backing and they don't have an expensive shops network.

Owain

In article ,
ARW wrote:
Very little when I had a look.

I'd guess they've moved stock to shops where they think it will get the
best prices quickly.

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"alan_m" wrote in message
...

How much would it cost someone buying up the stock to collect all those singly packaged
items in the stores, sort them out and then list them separately for re-sale?


They're still trying to run an online operation of sorts.

A lot of the stuff they're classing as "previously owned" when in fact what
they're probably talking about is demonstration or display stock.

So is presumably from various branches.

The big problem they have, is that they can't offer any guarentee - all the
website stuff is offered "sold as seen".

Which you'd imagine is enough to put most people off as even if only in
theory, buying from Amazon Marketplace or eBay sellers does offer some
form of customer protection.

Moneysavingexpert has a page on it

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ne...administration


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"Jethro_uk" wrote in message
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On Thu, 05 Apr 2018 10:54:58 +0100, alan_m wrote:

I hear, from the owners, that a few recent collapses in food outlets are
blamed on low footfall due to Brexit

Speaking for SWMBO and myself, any low footfall is simply down to
learning that a lot of shops are for the main - pretty ****.

One thing I *have* noticed is that Sainsburys has become more like Aldi
or Lidl, where it's a bit of a lucky dip as to what they are stocking,
and how much they have of it. I have still to determine if this is down
to some idiosyncrasies with Sainsburys, creeping effects of Brexit, an
foretaste of how things will be, or all 3.

When Peter Jones was appointed CEO of Sainsbury - the Prudential bloke not
the one in Dragon's Den - he tried to reorganise the distribution chain and they
immediately started having re-stocking problems with empty shelves etc.
It was no surprise to me as I always regarded him as a bit of a dickhead*
and his only qualification for this particular task was that he'd been a
management trainee at Sainsbury yonks ago.

However, despite being a dickhead he still managed to get his contract
terminated at a cost to Sainsbury of good few mill in compo and pension
provision..

ATM the only problem I have with Sainsbury is availability
of 4pt skimmed milk which at times can be erratic. Not that I buy much
else in there nowadays.

All the supermarkets and a lot of the High St. are still trying to absorb
the drop in sterling since Brexit themselves. Rather than pass on
to the customer the amount which would be fully justified. Thus masking its
effects. Which of course suits the Brexitards down to the ground.


michael adams


* This is maybe being unfair to Peter Jones but his physical appearance
and manner were almost identical to those if someone I knew, who definitely
was a dickhead. And the Sainsbury shambles simply confirmed my
initial suspicions.

....

"michael adams" wrote in message
.. .

When Peter Jones was appointed CEO of Sainsbury

Ooops ! Peter Davies.


michael adams

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In article ,
ARW writes:
Very little when I had a look.

Farnborough still a lot, although there are also empty shelves.
I bought all their project boxes in certain sizes a couple of
weeks ago, and there were more there later, so looks like they are
getting stock in from the warehouse, or found it round the back.

Even more amazingly, I happened to suddenly want a 74HCT4060
IC and a crystal to go with it. Thought no chance because
a) they usually didn't have things like that in stock anyway, and
b) they've moved a load of their component drawers into the shop,
with a "buy the whole drawer set including components for £100".
However, they happened to still have both the parts I wanted in
drawers still behind the counter, and reduced to 12p each so I
took the two of each they had.

The Reading store still looked pretty normal a week after the sale
started, but I haven't looked more recently.

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In article ,
"michael adams" writes:
It may be that they're moving stock out of branches so they end up with maybe a few
regional
branches acting as clearance outlets with rock bottom prices.

They won't sell it all. It's only worth keeping the sale going while
the revenue covers the cost of the staff and shop, and they have been
significantly more busy than normal during the sale so far, but that
will tail off as the saleable items go. When that threshold is crossed,
it's cheaper to throw the stuff away.

This will then also make it more convenient for clearance people to make them an offer.

The stuff in the shops would cost vastly more to handle than its
clearance value. Stuff still boxed in warehouse can probably be sold
at figures like 1% of value.

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In article , Andrew Gabriel
scribeth thus
In article ,
"michael adams" writes:
It may be that they're moving stock out of branches so they end up with maybe
a few
regional
branches acting as clearance outlets with rock bottom prices.

They won't sell it all. It's only worth keeping the sale going while
the revenue covers the cost of the staff and shop, and they have been
significantly more busy than normal during the sale so far, but that
will tail off as the saleable items go. When that threshold is crossed,
it's cheaper to throw the stuff away.

This will then also make it more convenient for clearance people to make them
an offer.

The stuff in the shops would cost vastly more to handle than its
clearance value. Stuff still boxed in warehouse can probably be sold
at figures like 1% of value.


A bit sad to say but there nothing there I want now that i would have
bought when they were trading, as it were..
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In article ,
michael adams wrote:
A lot of the stuff they're classing as "previously owned" when in fact
what they're probably talking about is demonstration or display stock.

Probably returns. Which the likes of Argos sell on as new. As I discovered
recently.

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In article ,
Jethro_uk wrote:
One thing I *have* noticed is that Sainsburys has become more like Aldi
or Lidl, where it's a bit of a lucky dip as to what they are stocking,
and how much they have of it. I have still to determine if this is down
to some idiosyncrasies with Sainsburys, creeping effects of Brexit, an
foretaste of how things will be, or all 3.

We're well provided with Lidl round here - three large stores within an
easy travel distance. And none of them are ever out of the basics. Special
offers are special offers.

My local mid sized Tesco had run out of virtually all fruit and fresh
bread on Tuesday AM.

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In article ,
michael adams wrote:
Wouldn't put it past them here in Cambridge any unused building will be
flats sooner or not much later;!

If my local Council is anything to go by, they seem to encourage the
developement of flats anywhere and everywhere so as to increase their
income from Council Tax. It also suits them for them to stay empty
for as long as possible, or at least until the developer goes bust.

What creates more income to the council? A shop or that shop (area)
converted to flats?

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In article ,
Jethro_uk wrote:
Apparently this has become very difficult in last couple of years,
because no one wants to own retail space anymore (too many retail
outlets can't pay their rent, and there are no takers for empty retail
space), so you can't find buyers anymore unless the premises can be
turned into flats, which is not normally the case in high streets.

rather jars with the ongoing "housing crisis" narrative though ?

Just like successive governments approach which seems to be *anything*
but build more houses ....

Like everything else, the purpose of building houses is only to make a
profit from. As large as possible. Selling 'affordable' ones would also
depress the value of other new ones. Since how a flat etc is specced makes
not much difference to the costs of building it.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
michael adams wrote:
Wouldn't put it past them here in Cambridge any unused building will be
flats sooner or not much later;!

If my local Council is anything to go by, they seem to encourage the
developement of flats anywhere and everywhere so as to increase their
income from Council Tax. It also suits them for them to stay empty
for as long as possible, or at least until the developer goes bust.

What creates more income to the council? A shop or that shop (area)
converted to flats?

On the High St its the spaces above large shops which were formerly
stockrooms that are being converted into flats. Ground floors of
smaller sites are often taken over by charity shops that get either
80% or 100% business rate relief.

Just In Time delivery resulting from improved IT has probably freed
up a lot of stockroom space in any case.

Otherwise flats are going up everywhere despite there being little
or no parking provision in many places. Instead the boarding on
the outside is plastered with posters of fitted kitchens with granite
worktops and shiny taps or big sofas on fluffy white carpets.


michael adams

....

On Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:57:41 UTC+1, michael adams wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
michael adams wrote:
Wouldn't put it past them here in Cambridge any unused building will be
flats sooner or not much later;!

If my local Council is anything to go by, they seem to encourage the
developement of flats anywhere and everywhere so as to increase their
income from Council Tax. It also suits them for them to stay empty
for as long as possible, or at least until the developer goes bust.

What creates more income to the council? A shop or that shop (area)
converted to flats?

On the High St its the spaces above large shops which were formerly
stockrooms that are being converted into flats. Ground floors of
smaller sites are often taken over by charity shops that get either
80% or 100% business rate relief.

Just In Time delivery resulting from improved IT has probably freed
up a lot of stockroom space in any case.

Otherwise flats are going up everywhere despite there being little
or no parking provision in many places.

By design, lots of new places near me and near public transport aren't allowed parking spaces.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/s...-a3704011.html

Andrew Gabriel wrote:
b) they've moved a load of their component drawers into the shop,
with a "buy the whole drawer set including components for £100".
However, they happened to still have both the parts I wanted in
drawers still behind the counter, and reduced to 12p each so I
took the two of each they had.

Are those the chests of about a dozen drawers, each about 3" high?
Kind of Snap-On style (but white)?

I hadn't really been paying attention but ours seems to have lost the
component counter some time in the last 15 years, meaning the entire
components stock is held in two of those.

Or does your still have a counter with a zillion staff-only drawers behind
it, and you mean one unit of those?

Theo

In article ,
Jethro_uk wrote:
On Thu, 05 Apr 2018 15:57:32 +0100, michael adams wrote:

Otherwise flats are going up everywhere

At some point that market will become saturated. It's houses - and
family houses at that - which are needed.

Depends. One of the problems with the bedroom tax was the lack of suitable
smaller properties. Councils generally catered for families rather than
widows, etc. And plenty want to get on the housing ladder with a low cost
one bedroom etc flat, long before starting a family. If two get married,
and both own a small flat each, may be able to afford to move up to a
family house more easily.

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Theo wrote:

Are those the chests of about a dozen drawers, each about 3" high?
Kind of Snap-On style (but white)?

Where I've seen those type, they seem to hold small bagged items (such
as BNC/SMA/F connectors, not sure what else) they do have individual
components in bigger drawers/dividers behind the counter at the back.

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:57:41 UTC+1, michael adams wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
michael adams wrote:
Wouldn't put it past them here in Cambridge any unused building will be
flats sooner or not much later;!

If my local Council is anything to go by, they seem to encourage the
developement of flats anywhere and everywhere so as to increase their
income from Council Tax. It also suits them for them to stay empty
for as long as possible, or at least until the developer goes bust.

What creates more income to the council? A shop or that shop (area)
converted to flats?

On the High St its the spaces above large shops which were formerly
stockrooms that are being converted into flats. Ground floors of
smaller sites are often taken over by charity shops that get either
80% or 100% business rate relief.

Just In Time delivery resulting from improved IT has probably freed
up a lot of stockroom space in any case.

Otherwise flats are going up everywhere despite there being little
or no parking provision in many places.

By design, lots of new places near me and near public transport aren't allowed parking
spaces.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/s...-a3704011.html

Khans father was a bus driver. And he's full of pie in the sky nonsense.
Have you personally travelled on a London Bus recently ? Basically they're
now targetted at idiots who instantly forget what bus they got on, immediately
they board and have to be reminded at every stop with loudspeaker announcements
at full volume. That''s if you're lucky enough to travel when the bus isn't full of
schoolkids.

Personally I'd rather crawl on my hands and knees in the rain rather than have to
travel regularly on buses. So quite why Khan expects people who are expected to
pay upwards of 500k for a flat to do so, is rather beyond me.

The tube is hardly any better although passenger numbers have fallen this year
apparently, although not during rush hours from what I can see.


michael adams

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"Jethro_uk" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 05 Apr 2018 15:57:32 +0100, michael adams wrote:

Otherwise flats are going up everywhere

At some point that market will become saturated.

It possibly already is in some areas if figures for sales and completions are
anything to go by. With plenty yet to finish construction and fitting out.

It's houses - and family
houses at that - which are needed.


Indeed. But it seems the land simply isn't available certainly in most of Greater
London without a govt initiative of some sort. As much of what is available
is devoid of transport links or infrastructure of any kind and so will require
hefty subsidies.

michael adams

....

In article ,
Theo writes:
Andrew Gabriel wrote:
b) they've moved a load of their component drawers into the shop,
with a "buy the whole drawer set including components for £100".
However, they happened to still have both the parts I wanted in
drawers still behind the counter, and reduced to 12p each so I
took the two of each they had.

Are those the chests of about a dozen drawers, each about 3" high?
Kind of Snap-On style (but white)?

I hadn't really been paying attention but ours seems to have lost the
component counter some time in the last 15 years, meaning the entire
components stock is held in two of those.

Or does your still have a counter with a zillion staff-only drawers behind
it, and you mean one unit of those?

These were behind the component counter. There are still some there,
but others are now in the shop "buy the whole drawer unit and what's
in it." They have listed what's in it, but as a bundle where you
might use 1% of the contents, they were way too expensive. If they
had been Racco Professional drawer units, I would have bought partly
for those (I use them a lot at home), but they weren't - I didn't
recognise the style.

The Reading branch had already moved those components into large
drawer units in the store so you didn't need to ask staff (a bit
like Tandy/RadioShack used to do).

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On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 19:55:32 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

On 4/4/2018 7:42 PM, Scott wrote:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 19:40:34 +0100, ARW
wrote:

Very little when I had a look.

Glasgow, St Enoch had a lot last time I visited.

bring back RME ....

In the Saltmarket? Memories.... 50 years or so ago, wandering around
RME, saucer in hand, on a Saturday afternoon.

On 05/04/2018 15:22, Jethro_uk wrote:

Although you are of course quite correct. In fact last (total waste of
time) looked at new builds, the slow release to market - to maintain
prices - was a selling point.

So, as I surmise. No housing crisis then.


There is also a problem that people may want jobs close to where they
live. Around my way there is a lot of house building or converting tower
blocks to 1,2 or 3 bedroom apartments. However, one of the larger new
housing developments is on a former large industrial estate that was
flattened and the tower blocks once provided jobs for thousands of people.

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On Thu, 05 Apr 2018 14:48:02 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
michael adams wrote:
A lot of the stuff they're classing as "previously owned" when in fact
what they're probably talking about is demonstration or display stock.

Probably returns. Which the likes of Argos sell on as new. As I
discovered recently.

Worst one I ever had was from Homebase.

Wooden toilet sdeat, in the packaging. Got it home and it had been used -
stains and all.


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On Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:59:31 UTC+1, michael adams wrote:
Khans father was a bus driver. And he's full of pie in the sky nonsense.
Have you personally travelled on a London Bus recently ? Basically they're
now targetted at idiots who instantly forget what bus they got on,
immediately they board and have to be reminded at every stop with
loudspeaker announcements at full volume.

Those are for blind people and tourists.

Some buses in Wales have them too. In English and Welsh.

Owain

On 05/04/2018 12:09, michael adams wrote:
ATM the only problem I have with Sainsbury is availability
of 4pt skimmed milk which at times can be erratic. Not that I buy much
else in there nowadays.

You might just as well buy 4 pints of semi-skimmed and add 4 pints
of water, or simply use less of it. Skimmed milk is so pathetic you
just end up using more.

Skimmed milk is one of thr worst marketing scams going.

On 05/04/2018 14:51, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Jethro_uk wrote:
One thing I *have* noticed is that Sainsburys has become more like Aldi
or Lidl, where it's a bit of a lucky dip as to what they are stocking,
and how much they have of it. I have still to determine if this is down
to some idiosyncrasies with Sainsburys, creeping effects of Brexit, an
foretaste of how things will be, or all 3.

We're well provided with Lidl round here - three large stores within an
easy travel distance. And none of them are ever out of the basics. Special
offers are special offers.

My local mid sized Tesco had run out of virtually all fruit and fresh
bread on Tuesday AM.


So more people shop at Tesco then ?.

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 19:59:58 +0100, "michael adams"
wrote:


"ARW" wrote in message
...
Very little when I had a look.

Strange.

In three branches in West London I've looked in, they've still got plenty of stock.

Although any real bargains may have been cherry picked

Their windows are plastered with two posters.

"Up to 20% off" and "Everything Must Go".

But as newspaper articles have pointed out even at 20% off, a lot of their stuff is
cheaper elsewhere - with sellers who might be able to honour guarantees.

While if it really is "Everything Must Go" no clearance specialist or auction sales
would offer them anything anywhere near to 80% retail. So theyl'll have to move
on the 20%. off.

Glasgow, St Enoch now showing 'up to 60% off'.

wrote in message
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On Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:59:31 UTC+1, michael adams wrote:
Khans father was a bus driver. And he's full of pie in the sky nonsense.
Have you personally travelled on a London Bus recently ? Basically they're
now targetted at idiots who instantly forget what bus they got on,
immediately they board and have to be reminded at every stop with
loudspeaker announcements at full volume.

Those are for blind people and tourists.

Why would blind people or tourists for that matter, forget what bus they'd
just got on ?


michael adams

....

On 5 Apr 2018 16:50:32 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:

On Thu, 05 Apr 2018 14:48:02 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
michael adams wrote:
A lot of the stuff they're classing as "previously owned" when in fact
what they're probably talking about is demonstration or display stock.

Probably returns. Which the likes of Argos sell on as new. As I
discovered recently.

Worst one I ever had was from Homebase.

Wooden toilet sdeat, in the packaging. Got it home and it had been used -
stains and all.

That's just taking the ****.



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"Andrew" wrote in message
news
On 05/04/2018 12:09, michael adams wrote:
ATM the only problem I have with Sainsbury is availability
of 4pt skimmed milk which at times can be erratic. Not that I buy much
else in there nowadays.

You might just as well buy 4 pints of semi-skimmed and add 4 pints
of water, or simply use less of it. Skimmed milk is so pathetic you
just end up using more.

It's all a matter of taste.

Other people happen to think differently. And believe it or not, the world
doesn't just revolve around you, and your own particular likes and dislikes.

Skimmed milk is milk with the fat removed. The calcium and B12 content
per volume is identical to full cream milk.

But don't worry diddums; nobody is going to force you to drink it if you don't
want to


michael adams

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