I am currently planning an extension to the house and whilst I will be getting a builder in to construct the shell I will be undertaking various other jobs myself.

One of the DIY jobs will be the electrical work which I understand would, if undertaken in the existing house, be non-notifiable under Part P by virtue of it only involving extending existing circuits and there being no new circuits, special locations etc.

However, given that the extension construction is itself subject to formal sign off from Building Control will this mean that the electrical work within it also be subject to this formality? If so, what options do I have (other than getting an electrician who can self-certify in) to achieve this?

Mathew

On Thursday, 22 March 2018 20:08:22 UTC, Mathew Newton wrote:

[...] (other than getting an electrician who can self-certify in) to achieve this?

By the above I meant getting an electrician who can self-certify in *to do the installation work*...

On 22/03/2018 20:23, Mathew Newton wrote:
On Thursday, 22 March 2018 20:08:22 UTC, Mathew Newton wrote:

[...] (other than getting an electrician who can self-certify in) to achieve this?

By the above I meant getting an electrician who can self-certify in *to do the installation work*...

There is always the 3rd party sign off that was allowed in the 17th
edition 3rd amendment(?) that I think only NAPIT agreed to do.


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On 22/03/2018 20:49, ARW wrote:
On 22/03/2018 20:23, Mathew Newton wrote:
On Thursday, 22 March 2018 20:08:22 UTC, Mathew NewtonÂ* wrote:

[...] (other than getting an electrician who can self-certify in) to
achieve this?

By the above I meant getting an electrician who can self-certify in
*to do the installation work*...

There is always the 3rd party sign off that was allowed in the 17th
edition 3rd amendment(?) that I think only NAPIT agreed to do.

I think Building Control also do the electrical sign off these days.

Oh for the good old days when the electricity board would send an inspector.



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On Thursday, 22 March 2018 21:03:28 UTC, Old Codger wrote:

I think Building Control also do the electrical sign off these days.

Some further, albeit cursory, searches makes me think I might actually be okay - in Wiltshire Council's details of charges (http://wiltshire.gov.uk/downloads/6553) it states:

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3. Electrical works
Where electrical work is €œnotifiable€� and is undertaken by an electrician who is not a member of a Part P €œcompetent persons scheme€� a charge of £291.67 + VAT will be made to recover the councils costs in checking this element of the project.
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I am assuming from this that "non-notifiable" work, even if undertaken by 'an electrician who is not a member of a Part P competent persons scheme', would not be subject to any additional costs. Similar wording is contained in their Building Regs Submission form (http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/wilts-bu...ation-form.pdf)

Presumably the extra costs are because the council are unable to perform their own testing given it is arguably more involved than just observation and opinion as per the rest of their checks.

If it will end up costing me £291.67 + VAT then I may well be better off just paying an electrician to wire up the few sockets that I'll be adding.

On Thursday, 22 March 2018 22:50:51 UTC, Mathew Newton wrote:
On Thursday, 22 March 2018 21:03:28 UTC, Old Codger wrote:

I think Building Control also do the electrical sign off these days.

Some further, albeit cursory, searches makes me think I might actually be okay - in Wiltshire Council's details of charges (http://wiltshire.gov.uk/downloads/6553) it states:

---
3. Electrical works
Where electrical work is €œnotifiable€� and is undertaken by an electrician who is not a member of a Part P €œcompetent persons scheme€� a charge of £291.67 + VAT will be made to recover the councils costs in checking this element of the project.
---

I am assuming from this that "non-notifiable" work, even if undertaken by 'an electrician who is not a member of a Part P competent persons scheme', would not be subject to any additional costs. Similar wording is contained in their Building Regs Submission form (http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/wilts-bu...ation-form.pdf)

Presumably the extra costs are because the council are unable to perform their own testing given it is arguably more involved than just observation and opinion as per the rest of their checks.

If it will end up costing me £291.67 + VAT then I may well be better off just paying an electrician to wire up the few sockets that I'll be adding.

Few diyers pay for the paper if they know what they're doing

On 22/03/18 21:03, Old Codger wrote:
On 22/03/2018 20:49, ARW wrote:
On 22/03/2018 20:23, Mathew Newton wrote:
On Thursday, 22 March 2018 20:08:22 UTC, Mathew NewtonÂ* wrote:

[...] (other than getting an electrician who can self-certify in) to
achieve this?

By the above I meant getting an electrician who can self-certify in
*to do the installation work*...

There is always the 3rd party sign off that was allowed in the 17th
edition 3rd amendment(?) that I think only NAPIT agreed to do.

I think Building Control also do the electrical sign off these days.


They've always been *able* to (as they have the last work on Building
Control matters) - but most didn't want to as it was outside their
comfort zone.