Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...97.m4902.l9144

But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I cant
find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they use
a different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?

"Rod Speed" Wrote in message:
Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...97.m4902.l9144

But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I cant
find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they use
a different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?



Fuse wire.
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jim k wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...97.m4902.l9144

But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I cant
find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they use
a different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?

Fuse wire.

A needle is much better, but isnt as good left in
the glove box, that's why I prefer a proper tool.

I have since found just one on amazon, but similar pricing.

Surely the chinese must have done some, just name it differently.

jim k wrote:

"Rod Speed" Wrote in message:
Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...-Tool-Jet-Clea
ning-Expert-Vehicle-03322/132353487776?_trksid=p2485497.m4902.l9144

But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I cant
find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they use a
different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?



Fuse wire.

With primus stoves there used to be a device called a pricker. A
mounted stiff wire with a handle at right angles. If you try a range of
flex you may find one with the right diameter strands.


--

Roger Hayter

"Roger Hayter" wrote in message
...
jim k wrote:

"Rod Speed" Wrote in message:
Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...-Tool-Jet-Clea
ning-Expert-Vehicle-03322/132353487776?_trksid=p2485497.m4902.l9144

But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I cant
find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they use a
different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?



Fuse wire.

With primus stoves there used to be a device called a pricker.
A mounted stiff wire with a handle at right angles.

Yeah, remember those but the proper jet tool would be better.
They arent all that expensive, but I'm so jewish I want to check
if the chinese do them much more cheaply. No rush for the tool.

If you try a range of flex you may find one with the right diameter
strands.

The problem isnt the diameter of the strands, it’s that they are too soft.

I've just done them with a needle I bought, because it was too much
effort to find the previous needles. Got much too thin a needle and
managed to bend that one with one of the jets that is pretty tight
and snap the needle with another, The jets are much better aimed
than they were, so I will wait till I get the proper tool to do anymore.

On 10/01/2018 00:09, Rod Speed wrote:

They arent all that expensive, but I'm so jewish I want to check

Am I being overly sensitive, or does this jar with other readers?

GB wrote:

On 10/01/2018 00:09, Rod Speed wrote:

They arent all that expensive, but I'm so jewish I want to check

Am I being overly sensitive, or does this jar with other readers?

If he actually *is* Jewish, I suppose he is allowed to make such
remarks, otherwise it is offensive precisely because of its casualness.
At school in Yorkshire in the 1960s "to jew" was a transitive verb
meaning to cheat someone, but I thought manners had improved since then.
To use Scottish in the same context is somewhat less offensive (but
still rude), as no-one has victimised the Scots for some centuries; and
then it was largely other Scots.


--

Roger Hayter

GB wrote
Rod Speed wrote

They arent all that expensive, but I'm so jewish I want to check

Am I being overly sensitive,

Yes you are.

or does this jar with other readers?

Would you object if I had said scottish ? Doesn’t read as well.

Guess I could have said stingy, but you've likely
noticed that I'm not into being politically correct.

I often use the useful abbreviation of Jap and Brit
and so quite often get some prat howling about it.

On Wednesday, 10 January 2018 09:44:59 UTC, GB wrote:
On 10/01/2018 00:09, Rod Speed wrote:

They arent all that expensive, but I'm so jewish I want to check

Am I being overly sensitive, or does this jar with other readers?

Not if he's Jewish.

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 11:15:32 PM UTC, Roger Hayter wrote:
jim k wrote:

"Rod Speed" Wrote in message:
Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...-Tool-Jet-Clea
ning-Expert-Vehicle-03322/132353487776?_trksid=p2485497.m4902.l9144

But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I cant
find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they use a
different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?



Fuse wire.

With primus stoves there used to be a device called a pricker. A
mounted stiff wire with a handle at right angles. If you try a range of
flex you may find one with the right diameter strands.


--

Roger Hayter

I bought a few old prickers on eBay a while ago. I inherited my Dad's old
primus stoves and have a fondness for them.

But for things like the OP's query (I can't believe I'm replying to Rod Speed!)
I use short lengths of old electric guitar strings. You can glue them into
a cork for a handle, or similar. The strings have a bit more flexibility
than a needle, which can help.

J^n

"jkn" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 11:15:32 PM UTC, Roger Hayter wrote:
jim k wrote:

"Rod Speed" Wrote in message:
Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...-Tool-Jet-Clea
ning-Expert-Vehicle-03322/132353487776?_trksid=p2485497.m4902.l9144

But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I
cant
find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they use a
different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?



Fuse wire.

With primus stoves there used to be a device called a pricker. A
mounted stiff wire with a handle at right angles. If you try a range of
flex you may find one with the right diameter strands.

I bought a few old prickers on eBay a while ago. I inherited my Dad's old
primus stoves and have a fondness for them.

But for things like the OP's query (I can't believe I'm replying to Rod
Speed!)
I use short lengths of old electric guitar strings. You can glue them into
a cork for a handle, or similar. The strings have a bit more flexibility
than a needle, which can help.

Its actually much worse, but I should have made it clear that
I normally want to adjust where the jet is pointing, not clean it.

The tool I listed does both better than any of the alternatives.

I'm just surprised that the chinese havent done any copys.

Bet they have, just call them something different.

On 10/01/2018 14:02, Rod Speed wrote:

Its actually much worse, but I should have made it clear that
I normally want to adjust where the jet is pointing, not clean it.

The tool I listed does both better than any of the alternatives.

I've always used a pin.

--
Max Demian

On 09/01/2018 23:01, jim wrote:
"Rod Speed" Wrote in message:
Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...97.m4902.l9144

But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I cant
find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they use
a different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?



Fuse wire.

I bought a pack of sharp pointy things that look just like
dental instruments for £1 in a diy shop.

Intended for working on PCBs but the straight one is
perfect for pricking eggs before boiling and also for
poking into windscreen washer jets that have become
clogged with gunge because it has a decent handle,
so is easier to use than a semstress pin (the ones
with bulbous ends).

On 09/01/2018 23:01, jim wrote:
"Rod Speed" Wrote in message:
Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...97.m4902.l9144

But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I cant
find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they use
a different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?



Fuse wire.

Too soft.

Know any guitarists? A (steel) B string should be about right. Or
perhaps the core of one of the wound strings.

On 09/01/2018 22:50, Rod Speed wrote:
Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...97.m4902.l9144


But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I cant
find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they use
a different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?

If you can find an old-school diabetic who injects using normal 0.5ml
syringes, mug him and steal one, they work well.

Cheers
--
Clive

On 10/01/18 09:36, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 09/01/2018 22:50, Rod Speed wrote:
Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...97.m4902.l9144


But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I cant
find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they use
a different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?

If you can find an old-school diabetic who injects using normal 0.5ml
syringes, mug him and steal one, they work well.

Cheershttps://www.ebay.co.uk/i/121723608122


--
Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead
to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.

On 10/01/2018 09:45, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/01/18 09:36, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 09/01/2018 22:50, Rod Speed wrote:
Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...97.m4902.l9144


But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I cant
find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they use
a different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?

If you can find an old-school diabetic who injects using normal 0.5ml
syringes, mug him and steal one, they work well.

Cheers

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/121723608122

A bit too thin IME. I suppose it depends what's blocking it, by mine
gets blocked by resinous tree sap, and you need something a bit stiffer
and thicker. But then don't we all.

Cheers
--
Clive

On 10/01/18 09:52, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 10/01/2018 09:45, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/01/18 09:36, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 09/01/2018 22:50, Rod Speed wrote:
Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...97.m4902.l9144


But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I cant
find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they use
a different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?

If you can find an old-school diabetic who injects using normal 0.5ml
syringes, mug him and steal one, they work well.

Cheers

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/121723608122

A bit too thin IME.Â* I suppose it depends what's blocking it, by mine
gets blocked by resinous tree sap, and you need something a bit stiffer
and thicker.Â* But then don't we all.
Small dressmakers needle?

Bit of 20SWG piano wire (model shop)

Cheers


--
€œBut what a weak barrier is truth when it stands in the way of an
hypothesis!€�

Mary Wollstonecraft

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:36:17 +0000, Clive Arthur wrote:

On 09/01/2018 22:50, Rod Speed wrote:
Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...zzle-Tool-Jet-
Cleaning-Expert-Vehicle-03322/132353487776?_trksid=p2485497.m4902.l9144


But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I cant
find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they use a
different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?

If you can find an old-school diabetic who injects using normal 0.5ml
syringes, mug him and steal one, they work well.

ITYM 0.5mm needles?

Plenty of diabetics still use those.
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On 10/01/2018 11:45, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:36:17 +0000, Clive Arthur wrote:

On 09/01/2018 22:50, Rod Speed wrote:
Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...zzle-Tool-Jet-
Cleaning-Expert-Vehicle-03322/132353487776?_trksid=p2485497.m4902.l9144


But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I cant
find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they use a
different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?

If you can find an old-school diabetic who injects using normal 0.5ml
syringes, mug him and steal one, they work well.

ITYM 0.5mm needles?

Plenty of diabetics still use those.

I didn't know the needle diameter, but the syringes I have all seem to
be 0.5ml. They're from a long-deceased relative who left a bag of about
1000 unused syringes - seemingly, she didn't want to run out.

Cheers
--
Clive

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 12:27:00 +0000, Clive Arthur wrote:

On 10/01/2018 11:45, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:36:17 +0000, Clive Arthur wrote:

On 09/01/2018 22:50, Rod Speed wrote:
Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...zzle-Tool-Jet-
Cleaning-Expert-Vehicle-03322/132353487776?_trksid=p2485497.m4902.l9144


But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I
cant find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they
use a different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use
?

If you can find an old-school diabetic who injects using normal 0.5ml
syringes, mug him and steal one, they work well.

ITYM 0.5mm needles?

Plenty of diabetics still use those.

I didn't know the needle diameter, but the syringes I have all seem to
be 0.5ml. They're from a long-deceased relative who left a bag of about
1000 unused syringes - seemingly, she didn't want to run out.

You are right - sorry. I was thinking of the vials, which fit into the
syringe these days.

But the needles are very fine.
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wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message.
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Bob Eager wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 12:27:00 +0000, Clive Arthur wrote:

On 10/01/2018 11:45, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:36:17 +0000, Clive Arthur wrote:

On 09/01/2018 22:50, Rod Speed wrote:
Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...zzle-Tool-Jet-
Cleaning-Expert-Vehicle-03322/132353487776?_trksid=p2485497.m4902.l9144


But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I
cant find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they
use a different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use
?

If you can find an old-school diabetic who injects using normal 0.5ml
syringes, mug him and steal one, they work well.

ITYM 0.5mm needles?

Plenty of diabetics still use those.

I didn't know the needle diameter, but the syringes I have all seem to
be 0.5ml. They're from a long-deceased relative who left a bag of about
1000 unused syringes - seemingly, she didn't want to run out.

You are right - sorry. I was thinking of the vials, which fit into the
syringe these days.

But the needles are very fine.

Usually something like 23 or 25 guage. But whether this is SWG or AWG
or a special one for needles I don't know. Google would no doubt inform
us.

--

Roger Hayter

Clive Arthur wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...97.m4902.l9144

But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I cant
find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they use
a different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?

If you can find an old-school diabetic who injects using normal 0.5ml
syringes, mug him and steal one, they work well.

I used to know one well enough that he would have given me
one if I had asked, but he's dead now, died of the diabetes.

Not sure if he did inject insulin tho.

I see now that I should have said that I want to adjust where the
jet sprays, not clean it. Sorry about that and thanks for the info.

Clive Arthur wrote:
On 09/01/2018 22:50, Rod Speed wrote:
Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...97.m4902.l9144


But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I
cant find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they
use a different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?

If you can find an old-school diabetic who injects using normal 0.5ml
syringes, mug him and steal one, they work well.

Cheers

Bristle or whatever they are called off a wire brush?
Rub it on a file if it is too fat?

Large needle?
Brian

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"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...
Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...97.m4902.l9144

But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I cant
find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they use
a different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?

Brian Gaff wrote

Large needle?

That’s what I have been using, but that’s not so good
for keeping it in the glove box, you have to get everything
out of the glove box to find it. Worth spending $20 just
to make it easier to find when you need it. And a decent
handle for it makes it easier when adjusting the position
of the jet too when you keep doing trial and error
adjustment when doing it by yourself and can leave
it on the bonnet between adjustments without risking
losing it in the very deep bark litter the car is parked
on when its at home.

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...
Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...97.m4902.l9144

But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I cant
find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they use
a different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?

On 10/01/2018 13:31, Rod Speed wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote

Large needle?

That’s what I have been using, but that’s not so good
for keeping it in the glove box, you have to get everything
out of the glove box to find it. Worth spending $20 just
to make it easier to find when you need it. And a decent
handle for it makes it easier when adjusting the position
of the jet too when you keep doing trial and error
adjustment when doing it by yourself and can leave
it on the bonnet between adjustments without risking
losing it in the very deep bark litter the car is parked
on when its at home.


Needle with reasonably length of thread attached, stuck into a cork.

On 10/01/2018 20:22, newshound wrote:
On 10/01/2018 13:31, Rod Speed wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote

Large needle?

That’s what I have been using, but that’s not so good
for keeping it in the glove box, you have to get everything
out of the glove box to find it. Worth spending $20 just
to make it easier to find when you need it. And a decent
handle for it makes it easier when adjusting the position
of the jet too when you keep doing trial and error
adjustment when doing it by yourself and can leave
it on the bonnet between adjustments without risking
losing it in the very deep bark litter the car is parked
on when its at home.


Needle with reasonably length of thread attached, stuck into a cork.
....hung from his hat brim.

--
Max Demian

"newshound" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 10/01/2018 13:31, Rod Speed wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote

Large needle?

That’s what I have been using, but that’s not so good
for keeping it in the glove box, you have to get everything
out of the glove box to find it. Worth spending $20 just
to make it easier to find when you need it. And a decent
handle for it makes it easier when adjusting the position
of the jet too when you keep doing trial and error
adjustment when doing it by yourself and can leave
it on the bonnet between adjustments without risking
losing it in the very deep bark litter the car is parked
on when its at home.


Needle with reasonably length of thread attached, stuck into a cork.

Not as convenient when actually adjusting the jets by yourself when
you have to keep getting in the drivers seat to try it repeatedly.

On 10/01/2018 13:31, Rod Speed wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote

Large needle?

That’s what I have been using, but that’s not so good
for keeping it in the glove box, you have to get everything
out of the glove box to find it. Worth spending $20 just
to make it easier to find when you need it. And a decent
handle for it makes it easier when adjusting the position
of the jet too when you keep doing trial and error
adjustment when doing it by yourself and can leave
it on the bonnet between adjustments without risking
losing it in the very deep bark litter the car is parked
on when its at home.

Don't you always have a pin in your lapel? How do you secure your
buttonhole (green carnation perhaps)?

--
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"Max Demian" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 10/01/2018 13:31, Rod Speed wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote

Large needle?

That’s what I have been using, but that’s not so good
for keeping it in the glove box, you have to get everything
out of the glove box to find it. Worth spending $20 just
to make it easier to find when you need it. And a decent
handle for it makes it easier when adjusting the position
of the jet too when you keep doing trial and error
adjustment when doing it by yourself and can leave
it on the bonnet between adjustments without risking
losing it in the very deep bark litter the car is parked
on when its at home.

Don't you always have a pin in your lapel?

Nope, and don’t even have any lapels either.

I wear T shirts year round, with a fleece on
top of a sweat top in the depths of winter.

And while the fleeces to have lapels,
the zip goes right up the lapel.

How do you secure your buttonhole (green carnation perhaps)?

Never ever do anything as dinosaury as that.

Just as well, everyone who knows me would likely
die laughing and that wouldn’t be very nice for them.

Rod Speed wrote:
Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...97.m4902.l9144


But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I cant
find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they use
a different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?
I use a dressmakers pin. the type with a round plastic ball on the end.
Does the job for me.

"Huge" wrote in message
...
On 2018-01-10, Bob Minchin wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:
Found this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-Wi...97.m4902.l9144


But its not cheap for something that simple and for some reason I cant
find anything on aliexpress or amazon, presumably because they use
a different description. Anyone with a better idea of name to use ?
I use a dressmakers pin. the type with a round plastic ball on the end.
Does the job for me.

I hot glued a pin into the end of a ballpoint pen case.

Havent had a ballpoint pen case for decades now.

I use sharpies for the very occasional stuff I write now.

On 10 Jan 2018 22:40:05 GMT, Huge wrote:

I hot glued a pin into the end of a ballpoint pen case. Jeez, what
kind of DIY-ers are you lot?

I put a pin in a pin vise...


Thomas Prufer

On 11/01/2018 07:29, Thomas Prufer wrote:
On 10 Jan 2018 22:40:05 GMT, Huge wrote:

I hot glued a pin into the end of a ballpoint pen case. Jeez, what
kind of DIY-ers are you lot?

I put a pin in a pin vise...


Thomas Prufer


I even have one of those, bought in a car boot sale and the
only time I ever used it was to hold a PCB drill bit to make
a very small hole.

Dental scrapers and sharp 'prodders' are the best things to use
because they have proper handles.

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:30:47 +0000, Andrew
wrote:

I even have one of those, bought in a car boot sale and the
only time I ever used it was to hold a PCB drill bit to make
a very small hole.

Dental scrapers and sharp 'prodders' are the best things to use
because they have proper handles.


And both "pin vise" and "stainless steel dental pick" get plenty of hits on
aliexpress. They even have pin vises with a twist drill function, with pin vises
starting at 1‚¬/quid delivered...


Thomas Prufer

"Thomas Prufer" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:30:47 +0000, Andrew

wrote:

I even have one of those, bought in a car boot sale and the
only time I ever used it was to hold a PCB drill bit to make
a very small hole.

Dental scrapers and sharp 'prodders' are the best things to use
because they have proper handles.

And both "pin vise" and "stainless steel dental pick" get plenty of hits
on
aliexpress.

The downside with both is that they dont protect
the spike when its kept in the glove box.

They even have pin vises with a twist drill function, with pin vises
starting at 1‚¬/quid delivered...

Andrew wrote
Thomas Prufer wrote
Huge wrote

I hot glued a pin into the end of a ballpoint pen case. Jeez, what kind
of DIY-ers are you lot?

I put a pin in a pin vise...

I even have one of those, bought in a car boot sale and the only time I
ever used it was to hold a PCB drill bit to make a very small hole.

Dental scrapers and sharp 'prodders' are the best things to use

Nope the specific jet tool because it has proper screw
on caps to protect the two different spikes when its in
the glove box which is the only sensible place to keep it.

Looks like its something the chinese still havent noticed,
presumably because most of them dont drive cars.

Realised I was having a brain fart and did a google advanced
search on the aliexpress.com and alibaba.com web sites, still no hits.

because they have proper handles.

So does the right tool for the job.