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Sounds like a bit of a non event to me. They did not say what this isotope
is normally used for so what might have released it is hard to suggest. It does of course show how sensitive our measuring devices now are. I do know for example that in the Channel Islands they have large monitoring systems since the French have a large reactor in close proximity to them, and they have always bee afraid that if an accident did happen there, they would be first in line to find out about it. Incidentally that page is strange as although its in English on a French web site my screenreader switches in to French for bits of the english text which meant I had to switch off language switching to hear it. Sounds like a coding error. Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "harry" wrote in message ... http://www.irsn.fr/EN/newsroom/News/...tigations.aspx |
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On 11-Nov-17 8:19 AM, Brian Gaff wrote:
Sounds like a bit of a non event to me. They did not say what this isotope is normally used for so what might have released it is hard to suggest... It is commonly used for medical purposes. It may also be released during nuclear fuel reprocessing. It is not absorbed by the body and is a beta emitter, so you would need to ingest it for it to have any effect. Harry should be a lot more worried about eating a banana. Colin Bignell -- -- Colin Bignell |
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On Saturday, 11 November 2017 09:14:45 UTC, Nightjar wrote:
On 11-Nov-17 8:19 AM, Brian Gaff wrote: Sounds like a bit of a non event to me. They did not say what this isotope is normally used for so what might have released it is hard to suggest... It is commonly used for medical purposes. It may also be released during nuclear fuel reprocessing. It is not absorbed by the body and is a beta emitter, so you would need to ingest it for it to have any effect. Harry should be a lot more worried about eating a banana. Colin Bignell -- -- Colin Bignell It's presence indicates an unreported nuclear incident. So, what else is there? |
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"harry" wrote in message ... On Saturday, 11 November 2017 09:14:45 UTC, Nightjar wrote: On 11-Nov-17 8:19 AM, Brian Gaff wrote: Sounds like a bit of a non event to me. They did not say what this isotope is normally used for so what might have released it is hard to suggest... It is commonly used for medical purposes. It may also be released during nuclear fuel reprocessing. It is not absorbed by the body and is a beta emitter, so you would need to ingest it for it to have any effect. Harry should be a lot more worried about eating a banana. It's presence indicates an unreported nuclear incident. Not necessarily. So, what else is there? Fairys at the bottom of the garden. Best for you to hide under the bed, again. |
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On 11/11/2017 09:35, harry wrote:
It's presence indicates an unreported nuclear incident. So, what else is there? Ruthenium-106 is used for medical purposes. So, it could just be due to a fire at a hospital. Or some scrap metal dealer acquired some old medical equipment. There's this small lump of soft stuff in the middle. He doesn't know what to do with it, so he sticks it on the bonfire. A nuclear incident is just one of many possible causes. |
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On 11/11/2017 10:17, GB wrote:
On 11/11/2017 09:35, harry wrote: It's presence indicates an unreported nuclear incident. So, what else is there? Ruthenium-106 is used for medical purposes. So, it could just be due to a fire at a hospital. Or some scrap metal dealer acquired some old medical equipment. There's this small lump of soft stuff in the middle. He doesn't know what to do with it, so he sticks it on the bonfire. A nuclear incident is just one of many possible causes. Well, it is still a nuclear incident. If it came from an official facility, it is hard to believe they were unaware of it, and therefore somewhat depressing that it was not reported to the IAEA. There have been a couple of serious accidents caused by dismantling of gamma sources from obsolete medical equipment which had become "lost" from the administrative system. Ru 106 however has a relatively short half-life and is used in a completely different way. So it is more difficult to believe that this is a release from a scrap-yard. |
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On 11-Nov-17 9:35 AM, harry wrote:
On Saturday, 11 November 2017 09:14:45 UTC, Nightjar wrote: On 11-Nov-17 8:19 AM, Brian Gaff wrote: Sounds like a bit of a non event to me. They did not say what this isotope is normally used for so what might have released it is hard to suggest... It is commonly used for medical purposes. It may also be released during nuclear fuel reprocessing. It is not absorbed by the body and is a beta emitter, so you would need to ingest it for it to have any effect. Harry should be a lot more worried about eating a banana. Colin Bignell -- -- Colin Bignell It's presence indicates an unreported nuclear incident. So, what else is there? The important question; which is, is it significant? -- -- Colin Bignell |
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On 11-Nov-17 12:22 PM, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 12:10:16 +0000, Nightjar wrote: On 11-Nov-17 9:35 AM, harry wrote: .... It's presence indicates an unreported nuclear incident. So, what else is there? The important question; which is, is it significant? No, it isn't... I know that. You know that. Harry appears not to. -- -- Colin Bignell |
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Some Russian Piky pinched some lead containers and opened them?
Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "harry" wrote in message ... On Saturday, 11 November 2017 09:14:45 UTC, Nightjar wrote: On 11-Nov-17 8:19 AM, Brian Gaff wrote: Sounds like a bit of a non event to me. They did not say what this isotope is normally used for so what might have released it is hard to suggest... It is commonly used for medical purposes. It may also be released during nuclear fuel reprocessing. It is not absorbed by the body and is a beta emitter, so you would need to ingest it for it to have any effect. Harry should be a lot more worried about eating a banana. Colin Bignell -- -- Colin Bignell It's presence indicates an unreported nuclear incident. So, what else is there? |
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On 11/11/2017 19:04, Brian Gaff wrote:
Some Russian Piky pinched some lead containers and opened them? Brian Beta source. Only needs wrapping in aluminium foil. |
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On Saturday, 11 November 2017 09:14:45 UTC, Nightjar wrote:
On 11-Nov-17 8:19 AM, Brian Gaff wrote: Sounds like a bit of a non event to me. They did not say what this isotope is normally used for so what might have released it is hard to suggest... It is commonly used for medical purposes. It may also be released during nuclear fuel reprocessing. It is not absorbed by the body and is a beta emitter, so you would need to ingest it for it to have any effect. Harry should be a lot more worried about eating a banana. Colin Bignell -- -- Colin Bignell More info here. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...t-farther-east |
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I wondered what had happened to all those Trimfones and their betalites....
Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "harry" wrote in message ... On Saturday, 11 November 2017 09:14:45 UTC, Nightjar wrote: On 11-Nov-17 8:19 AM, Brian Gaff wrote: Sounds like a bit of a non event to me. They did not say what this isotope is normally used for so what might have released it is hard to suggest... It is commonly used for medical purposes. It may also be released during nuclear fuel reprocessing. It is not absorbed by the body and is a beta emitter, so you would need to ingest it for it to have any effect. Harry should be a lot more worried about eating a banana. Colin Bignell -- -- Colin Bignell More info here. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...t-farther-east |
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On 11/11/2017 08:19, Brian Gaff wrote:
Sounds like a bit of a non event to me. They did not say what this isotope is normally used for so what might have released it is hard to suggest. It does of course show how sensitive our measuring devices now are. I do know for example that in the Channel Islands they have large monitoring systems since the French have a large reactor in close proximity to them, and they have always bee afraid that if an accident did happen there, they would be first in line to find out about it. Incidentally that page is strange as although its in English on a French web site my screenreader switches in to French for bits of the english text which meant I had to switch off language switching to hear it. Sounds like a coding error. Brian I was in Kyrgyzstan just south of the suspected area at the time of the release. Should I be concerned? Mike |
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On 13/11/2017 11:33, Muddymike wrote:
On 11/11/2017 08:19, Brian Gaff wrote: Sounds like a bit of a non event to me. They did not say what this isotope is normally used for so what might have released it is hard to suggest. It does of course show how sensitive our measuring devices now are. Â* I do know for example that in the Channel Islands they have large monitoring systems sinceÂ* the French have a large reactor in close proximity to them, and they have always bee afraid that if an accident did happen there, they would be first in line to find out about it. Â* Incidentally that page is strange as although its in English on a French web site my screenreader switches in to French for bits of the english text which meant I had to switch off language switching to hear it. Sounds like a coding error. Brian I was in Kyrgyzstan just south of the suspected area at the time of the release. Should I be concerned? Mike ALmost certainly not. If you had picked up an immediately life-threatening dose you would have other symptoms (vomiting, hair loss, etc). You might also have set off radiation detectors on entering the country. I'm not sure whether Ru106 emits a strong gamma as well as a beta particle. If it does, it should be easy to detect with an "ordinary" geiger counter, but some beta sources (like Sulphur 35) can only be detected by more sensitive instruments. I don't know exactly how it is used in cancer treatment, but it's probably used in a solution, and is probably not permanently retained in the body (which would be good, if you had been contaminated). |
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"Muddymike" wrote in message o.uk... On 11/11/2017 08:19, Brian Gaff wrote: Sounds like a bit of a non event to me. They did not say what this isotope is normally used for so what might have released it is hard to suggest. It does of course show how sensitive our measuring devices now are. I do know for example that in the Channel Islands they have large monitoring systems since the French have a large reactor in close proximity to them, and they have always bee afraid that if an accident did happen there, they would be first in line to find out about it. Incidentally that page is strange as although its in English on a French web site my screenreader switches in to French for bits of the english text which meant I had to switch off language switching to hear it. Sounds like a coding error. Brian I was in Kyrgyzstan just south of the suspected area at the time of the release. Should I be concerned? Yep, you should top yourself now. |
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