On 08/09/2017 11:39, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/09/17 11:16, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 8 September 2017 11:02:38 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
On 08/09/17 10:58, whisky-dave wrote:
if I wnted a telescope I;d buy one I would start grinding my own
lenes even if it is cheaper.
?????


I meant wouldn't grind my own leneses like Galileo did.

Why did you say you would, then?

Because he can't be arsed to proof read his posts before sending them.

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On Wednesday, 6 September 2017 16:30:29 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
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On Wednesday, 6 September 2017 13:24:46 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

What is the correct cloning tool ?

One that allows for the two drives to be of different sizes.
Acronis
True
Image does.

So you have to buy additional software to clone a PC drive I don;t
have
to with a Mac.

You dont have to with a PC either.

The one recommended above costs almost £35.

Nope, they supply an older version for free too and it clones fine.

Where is this older version they supply ?

On their web site.

https://www.acronis.com/en-gb/personal/computer-backup/

And remmebr linux is a free OS so why doesn;t everyone use it ?
Why pay for windows on a PC ?

I didnt. And you paid a lot more for your
Mac than you would have for a PC.

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On Saturday, 2 September 2017 10:00:27 UTC+1, Dave Plowman
(News)
wrote:
Finally got some time to look at it.

After being totally powered down (unplugged) for a couple of
days,
it
still wouldn't go beyond the start up pic.

Unplugged the latest addition - the SSD (which was a clone of
the
Win7
HD,
still in place) - and it attempted to boot. But failed half
way
through
the Win7 boot process.

A friend had that problem he found out thatv cloning a windows
7
home
edition he brought via ebay wasn't valid license wise so
wouldnlt
install
properly. He also found that cloning onto a larger drive
didn't
update
certain boot sectors of the disc properly in that it didn't
identify
the
new
HD as the 1TB he brought and still consider teh OS to be on
he's
old
250GB
drive, so it wasn't using all the space for swop files on the
new
drive.

Trivially fixed by using the right cloning tool.

He eventually got it working by NOT cloning but doing a fresh
install.

What is the corect cloning tool ?

One that allows for the two drives to be of different sizes.
Acronis
True
Image does.

So you have to buy additional software to clone a PC drive

Nope, that one is free.

you mean the trail is free.

Nope, they have an older version that is free.

So where is this older version they give for free ?

On their web site.

Apple give all their versions for free even the latest.

And you pay for that in the much higher price you pay for the hardware.

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On Thursday, 7 September 2017 18:25:49 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
I suspect that what he meant was that you get (usually a cut-down
version or an older version) of Acronis TrueImage bundled with
certain new HDs or SSds). I did anyway. IIRC they came with a card
with a link on it to download + a serial number to unlock it.

Unless everyone that buys a PC or everyone that buys an external drive
or everyone that buys a external caddy then that might be an option.
So
how about showign where this cut-down free version is.

There are several HD cloning utilities out there for free. For a PC at
least.

Yes I know but I don't need them.
I mostly use carbon copy cloner.



However, generally speaking, the HD you want to clone can't be in use at
the time.

which is why I advised my friend to buy an external CD caddy. You can but
the source and destination drive in each slot, and press the clone button
I have one myself but have never used it for cloning using the clone
button.


So on your kitchen table, whip it out and fit it to another PC. It can
them be cloned.

So I now need two PCs to clone one drive ?

Nope, True Image is happy to clone the drive you booted from.

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On Thursday, 7 September 2017 17:25:46 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
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On Wednesday, 6 September 2017 16:30:29 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
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On Wednesday, 6 September 2017 13:24:46 UTC+1, The Natural
Philosopher
wrote:

What is the correct cloning tool ?

One that allows for the two drives to be of different sizes.
Acronis
True
Image does.

So you have to buy additional software to clone a PC drive I
don;t
have
to with a Mac.

You dont have to with a PC either.

The one recommended above costs almost £35.

Nope, they supply an older version for free too and it clones fine.

Where's the link to that older version ?


https://www.acronis.com/en-gb/personal/computer-backup/

And remmebr linux is a free OS so why doesn;t everyone use it ?
Why pay for windows on a PC ?

I didnt.

Others have said try buying a PC without windows
maybe ou can tell them how to achieve such a thing.

Plenty of the cheapest suppliers of PCs offer that,
and even you should be able to assemble the PC
from components and not bother to buy Win.

Plenty of the floggers of PC components are happy
to assemble the PC for you for a small fee too.

If I were buying a PC I'd go with one of the
suppliers that built what you want to order.

So you dont have to pay for Win if you dont want it.

There's plenty of local shops that can build PC's.

So you dont have to pay for Win if you dont want it.

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On Friday, 8 September 2017 11:02:38 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
On 08/09/17 10:58, whisky-dave wrote:
if I wnted a telescope I;d buy one I would start grinding my own lenes
even if it is cheaper.

?????


I meant wouldn't grind my own leneses like Galileo did.

That's cos he didn't have a local vision-express.

if I have fish and chips tonight I won't be hiringing a fishing boat
either ;-)

Do you do DIY on your kitchen table ?

On Friday, 8 September 2017 11:39:07 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/09/17 11:16, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 8 September 2017 11:02:38 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/09/17 10:58, whisky-dave wrote:
if I wnted a telescope I;d buy one I would start grinding my own lenes even if it is cheaper.

?????


I meant wouldn't grind my own leneses like Galileo did.

Why did you say you would, then?

if I have fish and chips tonight I won't be hiringing a fishing boat either ;-)

Do you do DIY on your kitchen table ?

I dont have a kitchen table, so I do it on the dining room one

But according to DP it's not DIY unless you do it on a kichen table I'm assume he's not talking about wanking.

On 08/09/17 13:00, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 8 September 2017 11:39:07 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/09/17 11:16, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 8 September 2017 11:02:38 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/09/17 10:58, whisky-dave wrote:
if I wnted a telescope I;d buy one I would start grinding my own lenes even if it is cheaper.

?????


I meant wouldn't grind my own leneses like Galileo did.

Why did you say you would, then?

if I have fish and chips tonight I won't be hiringing a fishing boat either ;-)

Do you do DIY on your kitchen table ?

I dont have a kitchen table, so I do it on the dining room one

But according to DP it's not DIY unless you do it on a kichen table I'm assume he's not talking about wanking.

Well its all too illiterate for me anyway.


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On Friday, 8 September 2017 12:04:03 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
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On Monday, 4 September 2017 20:41:14 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
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On Saturday, 2 September 2017 10:00:27 UTC+1, Dave Plowman
(News)
wrote:
Finally got some time to look at it.

After being totally powered down (unplugged) for a couple of
days,
it
still wouldn't go beyond the start up pic.

Unplugged the latest addition - the SSD (which was a clone of
the
Win7
HD,
still in place) - and it attempted to boot. But failed half
way
through
the Win7 boot process.

A friend had that problem he found out thatv cloning a windows
7
home
edition he brought via ebay wasn't valid license wise so
wouldnlt
install
properly. He also found that cloning onto a larger drive
didn't
update
certain boot sectors of the disc properly in that it didn't
identify
the
new
HD as the 1TB he brought and still consider teh OS to be on
he's
old
250GB
drive, so it wasn't using all the space for swop files on the
new
drive.

Trivially fixed by using the right cloning tool.

He eventually got it working by NOT cloning but doing a fresh
install.

What is the corect cloning tool ?

One that allows for the two drives to be of different sizes.
Acronis
True
Image does.

So you have to buy additional software to clone a PC drive

Nope, that one is free.

you mean the trail is free.

Nope, they have an older version that is free.

So where is this older version they give for free ?

On their web site.

Apple give all their versions for free even the latest.

And you pay for that in the much higher price you pay for the hardware.

Not much higher at all if you compare like with like, and I find them better value.

On Friday, 8 September 2017 13:03:05 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/09/17 13:00, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 8 September 2017 11:39:07 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/09/17 11:16, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 8 September 2017 11:02:38 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/09/17 10:58, whisky-dave wrote:
if I wnted a telescope I;d buy one I would start grinding my own lenes even if it is cheaper.

?????


I meant wouldn't grind my own leneses like Galileo did.

Why did you say you would, then?

if I have fish and chips tonight I won't be hiringing a fishing boat either ;-)

Do you do DIY on your kitchen table ?

I dont have a kitchen table, so I do it on the dining room one

But according to DP it's not DIY unless you do it on a kichen table I'm assume he's not talking about wanking.

Well its all too illiterate for me anyway.

Those with true inteligence can work these things out, it's sometimes an advantage to have Dyslexia , but of course only the educated understand.

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Dyslexi...roduction.aspx

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 7 September 2017 18:25:48 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
Others have said try buying a PC without windows maybe ou can tell
them how to achieve such a thing.

You had the answer earlier - but you need a kitchen table.

I do NOT need a kitchen table, I have TWO computer tables to assemble
PC's on

Right. Most computer tables are for the computer when in use. A workbench
is where you assemble things. Or the kitchen table if you haven't got a
workbench.

I've had about 4 PC's on said tables that I've worked on for
other people,

You've worked on PCs for others - but don't know how to buy one without
the OS? Or how to clone an HD?

I DO NOT need a kitchen table any more than I need a
tobacco tin to keep screws and rawl plugs in. I don;t need to save
newspaper to use as toilet paper. (unless I'm at whipps X hospital). I
don't live in the 50s, 60s or 70s. I live in the 21st century.

Has one of your lecturers ever asked to investigate how your mind works?

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whisky-dave wrote:
However, generally speaking, the HD you want to clone can't be in use at
the time.

which is why I advised my friend to buy an external CD caddy. You can but the source and destination drive in each slot, and press the clone button I have one myself but have never used it for cloning using the clone button.


So on your kitchen table, whip it out and fit it to another PC. It can
them be cloned.

So I now need two PCs to clone one drive ?

It would save spending money on external caddies, as you can return them
both to as was afterwards. For zero cost.

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In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 7 September 2017 18:25:48 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
Others have said try buying a PC without windows maybe ou can tell
them how to achieve such a thing.

You had the answer earlier - but you need a kitchen table.

I do NOT need a kitchen table, I have TWO computer tables to assemble
PC's on

Right. Most computer tables are for the computer when in use. A workbench
is where you assemble things. Or the kitchen table if you haven't got a
workbench.

I've had about 4 PC's on said tables that I've worked on for
other people,

You've worked on PCs for others - but don't know how to buy one without
the OS? Or how to clone an HD?

I DO NOT need a kitchen table any more than I need a
tobacco tin to keep screws and rawl plugs in. I don;t need to save
newspaper to use as toilet paper. (unless I'm at whipps X hospital). I
don't live in the 50s, 60s or 70s. I live in the 21st century.

Has one of your lecturers ever asked to investigate how your mind works?

What will we do when usenet finally dies?
I may have to look for a job.

On Friday, 8 September 2017 15:26:18 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
However, generally speaking, the HD you want to clone can't be in use at
the time.

which is why I advised my friend to buy an external CD caddy. You can but the source and destination drive in each slot, and press the clone button I have one myself but have never used it for cloning using the clone button.


So on your kitchen table, whip it out and fit it to another PC. It can
them be cloned.

So I now need two PCs to clone one drive ?

It would save spending money on external caddies, as you can return them
both to as was afterwards. For zero cost.

Sorry when I said caddy I meant one of these.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inateck-Doc...al+drive+caddy

I cna use it for many data copying uses, I can clone my internall SSD to an extrenal drive in few hours at most. Tend not to do it though.
When you home computer hasn;t caused you problems such as crashing or not starting up or whatever since the day it was brought having to keep cloning the drive doesn't seem very important.

On Friday, 8 September 2017 15:26:18 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 7 September 2017 18:25:48 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
Others have said try buying a PC without windows maybe ou can tell
them how to achieve such a thing.

You had the answer earlier - but you need a kitchen table.

I do NOT need a kitchen table, I have TWO computer tables to assemble
PC's on

Right. Most computer tables are for the computer when in use.

But I can take my entire computer off the table and use it for anything I want.
It doesn't take long disconnecting a USB mouse and keyboard either.


A workbench
is where you assemble things. Or the kitchen table if you haven't got a
workbench.

I tend to use a work surface that was previosuly the table for my fish tank, I 'designed it myself and got it built as I didn't think it work buying a welding kit or circular saw for one 6ft table. I didnlt fancy carring it upstairs either. But I tend to use my old coffee table for that sort of thing, if I need more space I use my 'new' coffee table.
Next I'd use the floor rather than my kitchen worksurfaces.
Doesnlt seem worth the risk of scratching or damaging the tops.



I've had about 4 PC's on said tables that I've worked on for
other people,

You've worked on PCs for others - but don't know how to buy one without
the OS? Or how to clone an HD?

I know how to do all those things, which is one reason I prefer Macs.
I started working in the microprocessor development lab that run BBC computer a few amstrads and some ataris, than 'progressed in time to PCs.
I've been working with PCs since about 1986 or so. The esposn & viglen ones were the worst fiddley little boxes and breakable push buttons.
Then I went on to unix machines for VLSI, then to Macs, then I went to apple and did the repair course to become an Apple certified engineer.
Then about ~1994 the head of Department said Apple were going out of business so unless I went back to electronics and have nothing to do with computers I was to leave the department.



I DO NOT need a kitchen table any more than I need a
tobacco tin to keep screws and rawl plugs in. I don;t need to save
newspaper to use as toilet paper. (unless I'm at whipps X hospital). I
don't live in the 50s, 60s or 70s. I live in the 21st century.

Has one of your lecturers ever asked to investigate how your mind works?

They daren't in case I tell them.

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On Saturday, 2 September 2017 10:00:27 UTC+1, Dave Plowman
(News)
wrote:
Finally got some time to look at it.

After being totally powered down (unplugged) for a couple
of
days,
it
still wouldn't go beyond the start up pic.

Unplugged the latest addition - the SSD (which was a clone
of
the
Win7
HD,
still in place) - and it attempted to boot. But failed
half
way
through
the Win7 boot process.

A friend had that problem he found out thatv cloning a
windows
7
home
edition he brought via ebay wasn't valid license wise so
wouldnlt
install
properly. He also found that cloning onto a larger drive
didn't
update
certain boot sectors of the disc properly in that it didn't
identify
the
new
HD as the 1TB he brought and still consider teh OS to be on
he's
old
250GB
drive, so it wasn't using all the space for swop files on
the
new
drive.

Trivially fixed by using the right cloning tool.

He eventually got it working by NOT cloning but doing a
fresh
install.

What is the corect cloning tool ?

One that allows for the two drives to be of different sizes.
Acronis
True
Image does.

So you have to buy additional software to clone a PC drive

Nope, that one is free.

you mean the trail is free.

Nope, they have an older version that is free.

So where is this older version they give for free ?

On their web site.

Apple give all their versions for free even the latest.

And you pay for that in the much higher price you pay for the hardware.

Not much higher at all if you compare like with like,

Bull****.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 7 September 2017 18:25:48 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
Others have said try buying a PC without windows maybe ou can tell
them how to achieve such a thing.

You had the answer earlier - but you need a kitchen table.

I do NOT need a kitchen table, I have TWO computer tables to assemble
PC's on

Right. Most computer tables are for the computer when in use. A workbench
is where you assemble things. Or the kitchen table if you haven't got a
workbench.

I've had about 4 PC's on said tables that I've worked on for
other people,

You've worked on PCs for others - but don't know how to buy one without
the OS? Or how to clone an HD?

I DO NOT need a kitchen table any more than I need a
tobacco tin to keep screws and rawl plugs in. I don;t need to save
newspaper to use as toilet paper. (unless I'm at whipps X hospital). I
don't live in the 50s, 60s or 70s. I live in the 21st century.

Has one of your lecturers ever asked to investigate how your mind works?

Trouble is no once can find one in all that dog ****.

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
I cna use it for many data copying uses, I can clone my internall SSD to
an extrenal drive in few hours at most. Tend not to do it though. When
you home computer hasn;t caused you problems such as crashing or not
starting up or whatever since the day it was brought having to keep
cloning the drive doesn't seem very important.

Are you saying your Mac will last for ever?

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On Saturday, 2 September 2017 10:00:27 UTC+1, Dave Plowman
(News)
wrote:
Finally got some time to look at it.

After being totally powered down (unplugged) for a couple
of
days,
it
still wouldn't go beyond the start up pic.

Unplugged the latest addition - the SSD (which was a clone
of
the
Win7
HD,
still in place) - and it attempted to boot. But failed
half
way
through
the Win7 boot process.

A friend had that problem he found out thatv cloning a
windows
7
home
edition he brought via ebay wasn't valid license wise so
wouldnlt
install
properly. He also found that cloning onto a larger drive
didn't
update
certain boot sectors of the disc properly in that it didn't
identify
the
new
HD as the 1TB he brought and still consider teh OS to be on
he's
old
250GB
drive, so it wasn't using all the space for swop files on
the
new
drive.

Trivially fixed by using the right cloning tool.

He eventually got it working by NOT cloning but doing a
fresh
install.

What is the corect cloning tool ?

One that allows for the two drives to be of different sizes.
Acronis
True
Image does.

So you have to buy additional software to clone a PC drive

Nope, that one is free.

you mean the trail is free.

Nope, they have an older version that is free.

So where is this older version they give for free ?

On their web site.

Apple give all their versions for free even the latest.

And you pay for that in the much higher price you pay for the hardware.

Not much higher at all if you compare like with like,

Bull****.

Prove it.

On Friday, 8 September 2017 19:01:49 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
I cna use it for many data copying uses, I can clone my internall SSD to
an extrenal drive in few hours at most. Tend not to do it though. When
you home computer hasn;t caused you problems such as crashing or not
starting up or whatever since the day it was brought having to keep
cloning the drive doesn't seem very important.

Are you saying your Mac will last for ever?

No, but I rarely change computers because one has blown up or not working.
I'm thinking of getting a new imac pro (depending on price) and my current retina will be used as my second computer replacing my old mac mini from 2010 which is a bit on the slow side now.
I still have a working G4 tower with dual 500MHz processors from around 2000.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Mac_G4

It still works, but using 140W of power compared to a mac mini at less than 5W I felt it time to update. My previous G3 tower is in the loft and worked when I put it up their, as did my LC475 and my Macplus.

On Friday, 8 September 2017 18:47:55 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
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In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 7 September 2017 18:25:48 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
Others have said try buying a PC without windows maybe ou can tell
them how to achieve such a thing.

You had the answer earlier - but you need a kitchen table.

I do NOT need a kitchen table, I have TWO computer tables to assemble
PC's on

Right. Most computer tables are for the computer when in use. A workbench
is where you assemble things. Or the kitchen table if you haven't got a
workbench.

I've had about 4 PC's on said tables that I've worked on for
other people,

You've worked on PCs for others - but don't know how to buy one without
the OS? Or how to clone an HD?

I DO NOT need a kitchen table any more than I need a
tobacco tin to keep screws and rawl plugs in. I don;t need to save
newspaper to use as toilet paper. (unless I'm at whipps X hospital). I
don't live in the 50s, 60s or 70s. I live in the 21st century.

Has one of your lecturers ever asked to investigate how your mind works?

Trouble is no once can find one in all that dog ****.

And when they do it ends up badly for them.

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On Monday, 4 September 2017 20:41:14 UTC+1, Rod Speed
wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Saturday, 2 September 2017 10:00:27 UTC+1, Dave
Plowman
(News)
wrote:
Finally got some time to look at it.

After being totally powered down (unplugged) for a
couple
of
days,
it
still wouldn't go beyond the start up pic.

Unplugged the latest addition - the SSD (which was a
clone
of
the
Win7
HD,
still in place) - and it attempted to boot. But failed
half
way
through
the Win7 boot process.

A friend had that problem he found out thatv cloning a
windows
7
home
edition he brought via ebay wasn't valid license wise so
wouldnlt
install
properly. He also found that cloning onto a larger drive
didn't
update
certain boot sectors of the disc properly in that it
didn't
identify
the
new
HD as the 1TB he brought and still consider teh OS to be
on
he's
old
250GB
drive, so it wasn't using all the space for swop files
on
the
new
drive.

Trivially fixed by using the right cloning tool.

He eventually got it working by NOT cloning but doing a
fresh
install.

What is the corect cloning tool ?

One that allows for the two drives to be of different sizes.
Acronis
True
Image does.

So you have to buy additional software to clone a PC drive

Nope, that one is free.

you mean the trail is free.

Nope, they have an older version that is free.

So where is this older version they give for free ?

On their web site.

Apple give all their versions for free even the latest.

And you pay for that in the much higher price you pay for the
hardware.

Not much higher at all if you compare like with like,

Bull****.

Prove it.

Go and **** yourself, again.

On Tuesday, 12 September 2017 16:03:31 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
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On Friday, 8 September 2017 18:39:58 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
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On Friday, 8 September 2017 12:04:03 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
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On Thursday, 7 September 2017 17:22:14 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
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On Wednesday, 6 September 2017 16:11:03 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
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On Tuesday, 5 September 2017 16:43:40 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
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On Monday, 4 September 2017 20:41:14 UTC+1, Rod Speed
wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, 2 September 2017 10:00:27 UTC+1, Dave
Plowman
(News)
wrote:
Finally got some time to look at it.

After being totally powered down (unplugged) for a
couple
of
days,
it
still wouldn't go beyond the start up pic.

Unplugged the latest addition - the SSD (which was a
clone
of
the
Win7
HD,
still in place) - and it attempted to boot. But failed
half
way
through
the Win7 boot process.

A friend had that problem he found out thatv cloning a
windows
7
home
edition he brought via ebay wasn't valid license wise so
wouldnlt
install
properly. He also found that cloning onto a larger drive
didn't
update
certain boot sectors of the disc properly in that it
didn't
identify
the
new
HD as the 1TB he brought and still consider teh OS to be
on
he's
old
250GB
drive, so it wasn't using all the space for swop files
on
the
new
drive.

Trivially fixed by using the right cloning tool.

He eventually got it working by NOT cloning but doing a
fresh
install.

What is the corect cloning tool ?

One that allows for the two drives to be of different sizes.
Acronis
True
Image does.

So you have to buy additional software to clone a PC drive

Nope, that one is free.

you mean the trail is free.

Nope, they have an older version that is free.

So where is this older version they give for free ?

On their web site.

Apple give all their versions for free even the latest.

And you pay for that in the much higher price you pay for the
hardware.

Not much higher at all if you compare like with like,

Bull****.

Prove it.

Go and **** yourself, again.

I wondered why the subject was titled Desktop PC problems.