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Not for the first time, nor for the second, do I find that my (from a very
limited sample) recent purchase is either CFU or fails within a few months of buying it. Why do people swear by this means of shopping Things may be cheap(er) but if they are useless and you have limited (practical) means to get redress, what's the point? Gimme the pound shop any day, at least I can take things back :-) tim |
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tim... wrote:
Not for the first time, nor for the second, do I find that my (from a very limited sample) recent purchase is either CFU or fails within a few months of buying it. Why do people swear by this means of shopping Things may be cheap(er) but if they are useless and you have limited (practical) means to get redress, what's the point? Gimme the pound shop any day, at least I can take things back :-) tim I'd suggest a garden centre, if you wanted to buy a carp. I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did :-) But yes, I think we are all going to learn to be a bit more careful. I recently got a £5 TV aerial amplifier for mum and dad. I wasn't sure if it was going to make any difference to their poor signal, so I got the cheapest I could find. As soon as it was connected to a power supply, the power LED lit up very briefly and brightly, then went out, and then there was a faint smell of smoke. Needless to say, it ended up in the bin. |
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On 20/04/2017 11:31, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
tim... wrote: Not for the first time, nor for the second, do I find that my (from a very limited sample) recent purchase is either CFU or fails within a few months of buying it. Why do people swear by this means of shopping Things may be cheap(er) but if they are useless and you have limited (practical) means to get redress, what's the point? Gimme the pound shop any day, at least I can take things back :-) tim I'd suggest a garden centre, if you wanted to buy a carp. I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did :-) snip https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=to...bih=2026&dpr=1 Always brings out my inner child when I see it. Cheers -- Clive |
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Clive Arthur wrote:
On 20/04/2017 11:31, Dan S. MacAbre wrote: tim... wrote: Not for the first time, nor for the second, do I find that my (from a very limited sample) recent purchase is either CFU or fails within a few months of buying it. Why do people swear by this means of shopping Things may be cheap(er) but if they are useless and you have limited (practical) means to get redress, what's the point? Gimme the pound shop any day, at least I can take things back :-) tim I'd suggest a garden centre, if you wanted to buy a carp. I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did :-) snip https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=to...bih=2026&dpr=1 Always brings out my inner child when I see it. Cheers Never again will I be able to see it on the shelves without having a little chuckle :-) |
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On 20/04/2017 16:17, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 20/04/2017 11:31, Dan S. MacAbre wrote: tim... wrote: Not for the first time, nor for the second, do I find that my (from a very limited sample) recent purchase is either CFU or fails within a few months of buying it. Why do people swear by this means of shopping Things may be cheap(er) but if they are useless and you have limited (practical) means to get redress, what's the point? Gimme the pound shop any day, at least I can take things back :-) tim I'd suggest a garden centre, if you wanted to buy a carp. I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did :-) snip https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=to...bih=2026&dpr=1 Always brings out my inner child when I see it. They really need to get a new idea for the cover photo! -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 20/04/17 11:19, tim... wrote:
Not for the first time, nor for the second, do I find that my (from a very limited sample) recent purchase is either CFU or fails within a few months of buying it. Why do people swear by this means of shopping Things may be cheap(er) but if they are useless and you have limited (practical) means to get redress, what's the point? Gimme the pound shop any day, at least I can take things back :-) tim Nothing I have ever sent backl to aasmazon hasnt been either replaced or refunded as a matter of courese. Ebay? well generally iof you push you can get a refund there too. But ebay is caveat emptor, HOWEVER the last 2 items I got from ebay to repair the lefthand side sockets on my laptop (where it fell off onto the floor) were 100% perfect. The thing I should have taken back was the totally crap office chair I got from staples, but that is a 45 mile round trip. Utter crap. Beyond utter crap actually. -- "When one man dies it's a tragedy. When thousands die it's statistics." Josef Stalin |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message news On 20/04/17 11:19, tim... wrote: Not for the first time, nor for the second, do I find that my (from a very limited sample) recent purchase is either CFU or fails within a few months of buying it. Why do people swear by this means of shopping Things may be cheap(er) but if they are useless and you have limited (practical) means to get redress, what's the point? Gimme the pound shop any day, at least I can take things back :-) tim Nothing I have ever sent backl to aasmazon hasnt been either replaced or refunded as a matter of courese. after 5 months? or because it doesn't work as well as an "original" replacement when it was clearly described as not an original replacement (and priced accordingly). I was prepared for it to not be as good as an original replacement - but it performed worse that the worn out original item I was looking to replace. Ebay? well generally iof you push you can get a refund there too. But ebay is caveat emptor, HOWEVER the last 2 items I got from ebay to repair the lefthand side sockets on my laptop (where it fell off onto the floor) were 100% perfect. The thing I should have taken back was the totally crap office chair I got from staples, but that is a 45 mile round trip. Utter crap. Beyond utter crap actually. Well I wouldn't buy that sort of thing untested I did the same with a chair that I bought from Viking (long before the internet - in fact long before Staples had nationwide stores). It was far from the cheapest available but completely uncomfortable. But they offered an unconditional returns policy, so I rung up to return it they asked if there was a price point at which I would accept it - I said no tim |
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On 20/04/17 12:28, tim... wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message news On 20/04/17 11:19, tim... wrote: Not for the first time, nor for the second, do I find that my (from a very limited sample) recent purchase is either CFU or fails within a few months of buying it. Why do people swear by this means of shopping Things may be cheap(er) but if they are useless and you have limited (practical) means to get redress, what's the point? Gimme the pound shop any day, at least I can take things back :-) tim Nothing I have ever sent backl to aasmazon hasnt been either replaced or refunded as a matter of courese. after 5 months? After 18 months actually. In the case of the longest one. or because it doesn't work as well as an "original" replacement when it was clearly described as not an original replacement (and priced accordingly). I was prepared for it to not be as good as an original replacement - but it performed worse that the worn out original item I was looking to replace. I accidental;y ordered a TV wall bracket for a friend and it turned out the TV had unusually wide fittings, so it went straight back no problem Even postage was refunded.. My mistake. I should have double checked. Ebay? well generally iof you push you can get a refund there too. But ebay is caveat emptor, HOWEVER the last 2 items I got from ebay to repair the lefthand side sockets on my laptop (where it fell off onto the floor) were 100% perfect. The thing I should have taken back was the totally crap office chair I got from staples, but that is a 45 mile round trip. Utter crap. Beyond utter crap actually. Well I wouldn't buy that sort of thing untested How can you test iit? you have to put it together first., I did the same with a chair that I bought from Viking (long before the internet - in fact long before Staples had nationwide stores). It was far from the cheapest available but completely uncomfortable. But they offered an unconditional returns policy, so I rung up to return it they asked if there was a price point at which I would accept it - I said no tim Took my Panasonic TV back to currys in Cambridge . 'Wossup mate?' 'After ten miunutes it switches itself off, if I have it connected to the network showing videos. If its just watching the TV it takes half an hour' (plugs it into ship power) 'seems OK to me... ' 'well it isn't., Why would I want a like for like replacement if it actually worked?' 'ok, that makes sense, have a new one' That was the third one. The first was ordered online but not from Amazon. It wasn't a smart TV - and that was the websites fault. It came up ion a smart TV search. I had to drive 25 miles to 'drop it off' But then I had to drive 25 miles to Currys in Cambridge as well. There are places that refund willingly. Amazon is one. There are places that refund grudgingly like John Lewis, and Ebay is between there and willingly, and there are places that make it impossible to ever get your money back on anything. They don't hang around long, except as shops, which is why I prefer to use ebay/amazon. If the guy has x thousand recommends its generally a sign he really is OK. The two worst products I have bought in the last two years are both in shop' purchases. Te staples chair and the Boots bathroom scales that I fixed a year ago or so. They have gone wrong again in a creatively new way, and this time they are in the ****ing bin. Frankly I am now buying more on the internet than ever, because I get a better service that way, and its easier to send stuff back. -- No Apple devices were knowingly used in the preparation of this post. |
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On 20/04/2017 14:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
and the Boots bathroom scales that I fixed a year ago or so. They have gone wrong again in a creatively new way, and this time they are in the ****ing bin. How annoying! Didn't you buy a whole pack of 50 whotsits to fix it? What did you do with the other 49? |
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On 20/04/17 14:24, GB wrote:
On 20/04/2017 14:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote: and the Boots bathroom scales that I fixed a year ago or so. They have gone wrong again in a creatively new way, and this time they are in the ****ing bin. How annoying! Didn't you buy a whole pack of 50 whotsits to fix it? What did you do with the other 49? Still available to anyone who wants a trembler switch. The thing comes on now, but when all four sensors are pressed it says ERR and switches off. -- A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes. |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message news On 20/04/17 12:28, tim... wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message news On 20/04/17 11:19, tim... wrote: Not for the first time, nor for the second, do I find that my (from a very limited sample) recent purchase is either CFU or fails within a few months of buying it. Why do people swear by this means of shopping Things may be cheap(er) but if they are useless and you have limited (practical) means to get redress, what's the point? Gimme the pound shop any day, at least I can take things back :-) tim Nothing I have ever sent backl to aasmazon hasnt been either replaced or refunded as a matter of courese. after 5 months? After 18 months actually. In the case of the longest one. or because it doesn't work as well as an "original" replacement when it was clearly described as not an original replacement (and priced accordingly). I was prepared for it to not be as good as an original replacement - but it performed worse that the worn out original item I was looking to replace. I accidental;y ordered a TV wall bracket for a friend and it turned out the TV had unusually wide fittings, so it went straight back no problem Even postage was refunded.. My mistake. I should have double checked. Ebay? well generally iof you push you can get a refund there too. But ebay is caveat emptor, HOWEVER the last 2 items I got from ebay to repair the lefthand side sockets on my laptop (where it fell off onto the floor) were 100% perfect. The thing I should have taken back was the totally crap office chair I got from staples, but that is a 45 mile round trip. Utter crap. Beyond utter crap actually. Well I wouldn't buy that sort of thing untested How can you test iit? you have to put it together first., don't they have samples in the shop to try out? tim |
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On 21/04/17 12:41, tim... wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message news On 20/04/17 12:28, tim... wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message news On 20/04/17 11:19, tim... wrote: Not for the first time, nor for the second, do I find that my (from a very limited sample) recent purchase is either CFU or fails within a few months of buying it. Why do people swear by this means of shopping Things may be cheap(er) but if they are useless and you have limited (practical) means to get redress, what's the point? Gimme the pound shop any day, at least I can take things back :-) tim Nothing I have ever sent backl to aasmazon hasnt been either replaced or refunded as a matter of courese. after 5 months? After 18 months actually. In the case of the longest one. or because it doesn't work as well as an "original" replacement when it was clearly described as not an original replacement (and priced accordingly). I was prepared for it to not be as good as an original replacement - but it performed worse that the worn out original item I was looking to replace. I accidental;y ordered a TV wall bracket for a friend and it turned out the TV had unusually wide fittings, so it went straight back no problem Even postage was refunded.. My mistake. I should have double checked. Ebay? well generally iof you push you can get a refund there too. But ebay is caveat emptor, HOWEVER the last 2 items I got from ebay to repair the lefthand side sockets on my laptop (where it fell off onto the floor) were 100% perfect. The thing I should have taken back was the totally crap office chair I got from staples, but that is a 45 mile round trip. Utter crap. Beyond utter crap actually. Well I wouldn't buy that sort of thing untested How can you test iit? you have to put it together first., don't they have samples in the shop to try out? Assuming that they conform to what is in the box, sort of. In this case the screws that hold the seat on are so long they poke through the totally inadequate foam padding to become a literal pain in the rectum. The shop one didn't have such long screws. And the fact that the back starts to wobble after a few hours isn't apparent either Basically with the flimsy A4 filing cabinet I bought that is not even as substantial as Fiat bodywork, staples can **** off forever as far as I am concerned. In short I get a better shopping experience online than in any 'high street;' or retail park, with one notable exception. Books. E books are a complete failure as far as I am concerned because DRM makes it impossible to use them in the way I'd like, on loads of different devices. tim -- "In our post-modern world, climate science is not powerful because it is true: it is true because it is powerful." Lucas Bergkamp |
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tim... wrote: Not for the first time, nor for the second, do I find that my (from a very limited sample) recent purchase is either CFU or fails within a few months of buying it. If that is your experience, why continue to use it? Why do people swear by this means of shopping Because rather obviously it works well for the vast majority. Things may be cheap(er) but if they are useless and you have limited (practical) means to get redress, what's the point? If you buy anything based solely on the lowest price, you might just get what you pay for. Gimme the pound shop any day, at least I can take things back :-) Then why didn't you buy your whatever there? I've made getting on for 2000 Ebay purchases. Problems with any being little if any different from buying on the high street. And never had a problem getting redress. -- *He who laughs last, thinks slowest. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 20/04/17 11:19, tim... wrote:
Not for the first time, nor for the second, do I find that my (from a very limited sample) recent purchase is either CFU or fails within a few months of buying it. Why do people swear by this means of shopping Things may be cheap(er) but if they are useless and you have limited (practical) means to get redress, what's the point? Gimme the pound shop any day, at least I can take things back :-) tim I buy from Amazon (direct - as in I almost always choose the "despatched by Amazon" items) because: 1) The delivery is bullet proof. If I'm out, they leave the product where I tell them to; 2) Or I can choose locker or one of the collection points; 3) I can read the reviews. I've not been let down much but doing it that way - I've had more duff purchases from bricks and mortar stores; 4) Returns are simple for the first month; 5) They sell things that would be impossible to get in my nearest large town and I don't have to waste all day driving and parking. This of course does not apply to Amazon market place sellers, only stuff dispatched by Amazon. Nor ebay - who I do use for the odd weird and small thing. Big purchases like TVs and washing machines, I do tend to go to John Lewis or a specialist Miele place as the price is usually better and I can have a good look at it first - so fair's fair. Amazon, with Prime is very hard to beat. I do believe, once you've got it sussed, it is far more pleasant than battling through the town. |
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On 20/04/17 14:36, Tim Watts wrote:
On 20/04/17 11:19, tim... wrote: Not for the first time, nor for the second, do I find that my (from a very limited sample) recent purchase is either CFU or fails within a few months of buying it. Why do people swear by this means of shopping Things may be cheap(er) but if they are useless and you have limited (practical) means to get redress, what's the point? Gimme the pound shop any day, at least I can take things back :-) tim I buy from Amazon (direct - as in I almost always choose the "despatched by Amazon" items) because: 1) The delivery is bullet proof. If I'm out, they leave the product where I tell them to; Not always. I was expecting a delivery. It was suppposed to be left in the porch if I was out. This is a sort of room thing, stuck on the front of the house with a door clearly marked 'sliding door' Mr amazon delivery man. Unfortunately I don't think many of them read english. After the parcel failed to arrive, I contacted them and they said they would dispatch a replacement (book) and refund the (TV tongle) because it was out of stock. a few weeks later I had occasion to look out of the garden door and saw bits of wet brown cardboard blowing in the gale force winds. Yes, it was what was left of the original amazon parcel, with a sodden book that was, after drying out, almost readable and a TV dongle that actually worked. So I kept that. IT had been thrown or dumped in the garden. The driver MUST have walked right past the porch to do it. Amusingly, a parcel recently was flagged online as 'left with receptions, M Cook' which I thought was odd, because I live in a cottage and am currently in the middle of two building sites, so I asked the brickies 'Is one of you M Cook?' and 'yes mate' 'Did some **** leave a package' - 'yes some **** did, it's on the wastetebin' . 2) Or I can choose locker or one of the collection points; 3) I can read the reviews. I've not been let down much but doing it that way - I've had more duff purchases from bricks and mortar stores; 4) Returns are simple for the first month; 5) They sell things that would be impossible to get in my nearest large town and I don't have to waste all day driving and parking. This of course does not apply to Amazon market place sellers, only stuff dispatched by Amazon. Nor ebay - who I do use for the odd weird and small thing. Big purchases like TVs and washing machines, I do tend to go to John Lewis or a specialist Miele place as the price is usually better and I can have a good look at it first - so fair's fair. Well yes, but even then.. "Cant I see the menu on this TV - have you got a remote for it' 'no - its probably been nicked' . Ijn fact I gave up on the store altogether. Going online I found pictures of the menu system and a ton of feedback on the TV. It was fora technically illiterate mate, and in the end we bought a refurbed one via amazon. Tatty packaging but works perfectly and not a blemish on it. Amazon, with Prime is very hard to beat. I do believe, once you've got it sussed, it is far more pleasant than battling through the town. Amazon, without Prime, beats it hands down. 80 quid a year for what? Nothing I want. -- Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as foolish, and by the rulers as useful. (Seneca the Younger, 65 AD) |
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"Tim Watts" wrote in message news On 20/04/17 11:19, tim... wrote: Not for the first time, nor for the second, do I find that my (from a very limited sample) recent purchase is either CFU or fails within a few months of buying it. Why do people swear by this means of shopping Things may be cheap(er) but if they are useless and you have limited (practical) means to get redress, what's the point? Gimme the pound shop any day, at least I can take things back :-) tim I buy from Amazon (direct - as in I almost always choose the "despatched by Amazon" items) because: 1) The delivery is bullet proof. If I'm out, they leave the product where I tell them to; 2) Or I can choose locker or one of the collection points; This isn't about delivery. It's about the quality of the product 3) I can read the reviews. I've not been let down much but doing it that way - I've had more duff purchases from bricks and mortar stores; Most reviews are posted within 48 hours of the purchase how many sites allow you to go back and say "after six months this product stopped working" 4) Returns are simple for the first month; 5) They sell things that would be impossible to get in my nearest large town and I don't have to waste all day driving and parking. Yep, that's why I have bought the items this way. But I still think that I am entitled for them not to fail after 5 months. This of course does not apply to Amazon market place sellers, only stuff dispatched by Amazon. Nor ebay - who I do use for the odd weird and small thing. Big purchases like TVs and washing machines, I do tend to go to John Lewis or a specialist Miele place as the price is usually better and I can have a good look at it first - so fair's fair. The problem is with no-name products I wouldn't even consider buying a no-name TV, mail order. I might just buy it in a high street major. tim |
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On 21/04/17 12:35, tim... wrote:
"Tim Watts" wrote in message news On 20/04/17 11:19, tim... wrote: Not for the first time, nor for the second, do I find that my (from a very limited sample) recent purchase is either CFU or fails within a few months of buying it. Why do people swear by this means of shopping Things may be cheap(er) but if they are useless and you have limited (practical) means to get redress, what's the point? Gimme the pound shop any day, at least I can take things back :-) tim I buy from Amazon (direct - as in I almost always choose the "despatched by Amazon" items) because: 1) The delivery is bullet proof. If I'm out, they leave the product where I tell them to; 2) Or I can choose locker or one of the collection points; This isn't about delivery. It's about the quality of the product 3) I can read the reviews. I've not been let down much but doing it that way - I've had more duff purchases from bricks and mortar stores; Most reviews are posted within 48 hours of the purchase how many sites allow you to go back and say "after six months this product stopped working" 4) Returns are simple for the first month; 5) They sell things that would be impossible to get in my nearest large town and I don't have to waste all day driving and parking. Yep, that's why I have bought the items this way. But I still think that I am entitled for them not to fail after 5 months. This of course does not apply to Amazon market place sellers, only stuff dispatched by Amazon. Nor ebay - who I do use for the odd weird and small thing. Big purchases like TVs and washing machines, I do tend to go to John Lewis or a specialist Miele place as the price is usually better and I can have a good look at it first - so fair's fair. The problem is with no-name products I wouldn't even consider buying a no-name TV, mail order. I might just buy it in a high street major. I wouldnt buy it period without having read online many many positive reviews. tim -- "In our post-modern world, climate science is not powerful because it is true: it is true because it is powerful." Lucas Bergkamp |
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On 4/21/2017 12:35 PM, tim... wrote:
3) I can read the reviews. I've not been let down much but doing it that way - I've had more duff purchases from bricks and mortar stores; Most reviews are posted within 48 hours of the purchase how many sites allow you to go back and say "after six months this product stopped working" Amazon, for one. |
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On 21/04/17 17:54, newshound wrote:
On 4/21/2017 12:35 PM, tim... wrote: 3) I can read the reviews. I've not been let down much but doing it that way - I've had more duff purchases from bricks and mortar stores; Most reviews are posted within 48 hours of the purchase how many sites allow you to go back and say "after six months this product stopped working" Amazon, for one. In my case a year. I got a free upgrade on conditons Id say nice things about the new product. Its been a year and its still works so maybe I should... -- A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes. |
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Yes the problem is there is a cut off cost where the cost of getting things
sorted outweighs all the need to get it working so you chuck it in the bin. Unfortunately most of the things that have failed are made in China, nearly always say in stock with a uk address but the info from amazons then says its coming from china. I get the feeling there is some hoodwinking being attempted on Amazon and the customer here. Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "tim..." wrote in message news Not for the first time, nor for the second, do I find that my (from a very limited sample) recent purchase is either CFU or fails within a few months of buying it. Why do people swear by this means of shopping Things may be cheap(er) but if they are useless and you have limited (practical) means to get redress, what's the point? Gimme the pound shop any day, at least I can take things back :-) tim |
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Unfortunately most of the things that have failed are made in China, nearly Just delete "that have failed" and it's still true so it's hardly suprising that it's true with "that have failed" in it. :-) -- Chris Green · |
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Chris Green wrote: Brian Gaff wrote: Unfortunately most of the things that have failed are made in China, nearly Just delete "that have failed" and it's still true so it's hardly suprising that it's true with "that have failed" in it. :-) True. And suggests things made in other countries like the UK are always perfect. If they had been, we'd still be making them. ;-) -- *The most common name in the world is Mohammed * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 21/04/2017 10:31, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
True. And suggests things made in other countries like the UK are always perfect. If they had been, we'd still be making them. ;-) I think there are some folk at Crewe who would argue they still do but - as Marcus Sieff (M&S) used to say - "the price of perfection is prohibitive" -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On 21/04/17 10:51, Robin wrote:
On 21/04/2017 10:31, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: True. And suggests things made in other countries like the UK are always perfect. If they had been, we'd still be making them. ;-) I think there are some folk at Crewe who would argue they still do but - as Marcus Sieff (M&S) used to say - "the price of perfection is prohibitive" price tends to infinity as quality tends to perfection. Anyone who has worked to MILSPEC can tell you that ;-) -- "I guess a rattlesnake ain't risponsible fer bein' a rattlesnake, but ah puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun". |
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Robin wrote: On 21/04/2017 10:31, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: True. And suggests things made in other countries like the UK are always perfect. If they had been, we'd still be making them. ;-) I think there are some folk at Crewe who would argue they still do but - as Marcus Sieff (M&S) used to say - "the price of perfection is prohibitive" Wonder how much of a current Bentley is made at Crewe? And of course R-R is no longer made there. But both by German owned firms. -- *If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Not for the first time, nor for the second, do I find that my (from a very limited sample) recent purchase is either CFU or fails within a few months of buying it. Why do people swear by this means of shopping Because most don't get that very often and it leaves the alternatives for dead. Things may be cheap(er) but if they are useless and you have limited (practical) means to get redress, You don't with amazon and ebay. If its crap you get a full refund just by telling them its crap and providing evidence of that with a photo etc. what's the point? That you get a vastly better range to choose from and very effective redress when it doesn't work. Gimme the pound shop any day, at least I can take things back :-) Mine doesn't have what I have bought from ebay and amazon and aliexpress. And the pound shop refused to refund with some useless potato peelers that wouldn't peel a ****ing potato. It was so cheap that when the checkout ape refused to refund it, I couldn't be bothered going back when the manager was supposed to be there and making her do what the law requires she do. I have more useful things to do with my time. |
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