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R P McMurphey
 
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what fittings do I need? I know how to plumb in an oven, but a hob needs
solid pipework. what do i use to convert from the threaded pipe from the
hob to the 15mm copper pipe? do I use an elbow and secure it to the wall or
can you get free floating ones?

Steve


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"R P McMurphey" wrote in message
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what fittings do I need? I know how to plumb in an oven, but a hob needs
solid pipework. what do i use to convert from the threaded pipe from the
hob to the 15mm copper pipe? do I use an elbow and secure it to the wall

or
can you get free floating ones?

Steve



I know it is not recommended, but I put my hob in with a cooker flexible,
that was twenty five years ago and it is still ok. After all if it is ok
for a cooker, why not a hob?

MrCheerful


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Christian McArdle
 
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I know it is not recommended, but I put my hob in with a cooker flexible,
that was twenty five years ago and it is still ok. After all if it is ok
for a cooker, why not a hob?


I thought it was allowed, provided that it could hang free in a U bend,
connected upwards to the bayonet. As they are normally installed over ovens,
this isn't practical, as they would rest on the hot top surface of the oven.
I may be completely wrong, however.

Christian.


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Harry Bloomfield
 
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Christian McArdle wrote on Wednesday (04/02/2004) :
I know it is not recommended, but I put my hob in with a cooker flexible,
that was twenty five years ago and it is still ok. After all if it is ok
for a cooker, why not a hob?


I thought it was allowed, provided that it could hang free in a U bend,
connected upwards to the bayonet. As they are normally installed over ovens,
this isn't practical, as they would rest on the hot top surface of the oven.
I may be completely wrong, however.

Christian.


Our gas hob/electric oven arrived fitted with a flexible pipe fitted.

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Christian McArdle
 
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Our gas hob/electric oven arrived fitted with a flexible pipe fitted.

Do you mean a free standing cooker, rather than separates?

Christian.




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Dave Plowman
 
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In article ,
R P McMurphey wrote:
what fittings do I need? I know how to plumb in an oven, but a hob
needs solid pipework. what do i use to convert from the threaded pipe
from the hob to the 15mm copper pipe?


Normally a 1/2 BSP female to 15mm compression fitting. You can get
straight or elbow versions.

do I use an elbow and secure it to the wall or can you get free floating
ones?


I'd certainly make sure the pipe was secure.

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Harry Bloomfield
 
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On 04/02/2004 Christian McArdle a wrote :
Our gas hob/electric oven arrived fitted with a flexible pipe fitted.


Do you mean a free standing cooker, rather than separates?

Christian.


It is a matching gas hob and (separate) electric cooker. It replaced a
free standing gas cooker, which plugged in via a flexible. The hob
arrived fitted with a flexible hose, enabling it to be plugged straight
in.

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Christian McArdle
 
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It is a matching gas hob and (separate) electric cooker. It replaced a
free standing gas cooker, which plugged in via a flexible. The hob
arrived fitted with a flexible hose, enabling it to be plugged straight


Does the flexible hose hang downwards unobstructed through gravity alone and
connect upwards into the bayonet connector?

Christian.


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R P McMurphey
 
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a flexable rubber hose or flexable metal one?

steve

Harry Bloomfield wrote:
On 04/02/2004 Christian McArdle a wrote :
Our gas hob/electric oven arrived fitted with a flexible pipe
fitted.


Do you mean a free standing cooker, rather than separates?

Christian.


It is a matching gas hob and (separate) electric cooker. It replaced a
free standing gas cooker, which plugged in via a flexible. The hob
arrived fitted with a flexible hose, enabling it to be plugged
straight in.



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Harry Bloomfield
 
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Christian McArdle wrote on Wednesday (04/02/2004) :
It is a matching gas hob and (separate) electric cooker. It replaced a
free standing gas cooker, which plugged in via a flexible. The hob
arrived fitted with a flexible hose, enabling it to be plugged straight


Does the flexible hose hang downwards unobstructed through gravity alone and
connect upwards into the bayonet connector?

Christian.


I don't feel inclined to pull it all out to look, so from memory....

It was a rubbererised outer hose, came out horizontally from the hob
and the socket was perfectly placed in the gap between the top of the
oven and the underside of the hob. I took the precaution of curling the
hose so that it was clear of both and in free space.

Last year I had to remove the oven to repair it and checked out the
hose at the same time.

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On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:51:13 -0000, "R P McMurphey"
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a flexable rubber hose or flexable metal one?

steve


anyone i have seen has rubber on the outside with a metal interior .
Stuart

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"John Stumbles" wrote in message
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"Christian McArdle" wrote in message
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I know it is not recommended, but I put my hob in with a cooker

flexible,
that was twenty five years ago and it is still ok. After all if it is

ok
for a cooker, why not a hob?


I thought it was allowed


The ultimate word is with the manufacturer's instructions: if it says a
flexible is OK, then it is OK,


Flexible on a hob is now not OK.


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"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
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On 04/02/2004 Christian McArdle a wrote :
Our gas hob/electric oven arrived fitted with a flexible pipe fitted.


Do you mean a free standing cooker, rather than separates?

Christian.


It is a matching gas hob and (separate) electric cooker. It replaced a
free standing gas cooker, which plugged in via a flexible. The hob
arrived fitted with a flexible hose, enabling it to be plugged straight
in.


What make? Some of the Continental models think they are being fitted in
Spain.


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On 04/02/2004 IMM a wrote :
What make? Some of the Continental models think they are being fitted in
Spain.


It is one of those Scandinavian makes and I cannot even remember when
or where we bought it.

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On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 10:09:48 +0000, MrCheerful wrote:


"R P McMurphey" wrote in message
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what fittings do I need? I know how to plumb in an oven, but a hob needs
solid pipework. what do i use to convert from the threaded pipe from the
hob to the 15mm copper pipe? do I use an elbow and secure it to the wall

or
can you get free floating ones?

Steve



I know it is not recommended, but I put my hob in with a cooker flexible,
that was twenty five years ago and it is still ok. After all if it is ok
for a cooker, why not a hob?

This is discussed in the gas fitting FAQ.


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"Christian McArdle" wrote in message
. net...
I know it is not recommended, but I put my hob in with a cooker

flexible,
that was twenty five years ago and it is still ok. After all if it is

ok
for a cooker, why not a hob?


I thought it was allowed


The ultimate word is with the manufacturer's instructions: if it says a
flexible is OK, then it is OK, otherwise you should not use a hose. AIUI the
reasoning is that a hose is for an appliance that the user can move as with
a traditional free-standing cooker whereas a hob is fixed permanently in
place and the pipework should likewise be permanent. In practice I'd arrange
the pipework so that there's a compression joint somewhere accessible (maybe
underneath the kitchen unit) so that the hob and its section of fixed
pipework can be manoeuvered(sp?) into place and conected up easily. There
should be a valve to turn off the supply to the hob (if the valve has
compression joints this could also be where the hob section of pipework
connects, as long as the connection can be made without disturbing the
compression joint on the supply side of the valve).




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John Stumbles
 
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"IMM" wrote in message
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"John Stumbles" wrote in message
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"Christian McArdle" wrote in message
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I know it is not recommended, but I put my hob in with a cooker

flexible,
that was twenty five years ago and it is still ok. After all if it

is
ok
for a cooker, why not a hob?

I thought it was allowed


The ultimate word is with the manufacturer's instructions: if it says a
flexible is OK, then it is OK,


Flexible on a hob is now not OK.


Would you mind elaborating (like: who says so, in what document)?

And do the manufacturer's instructions no longer carry any weight?




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John Rouse
 
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In article , IMM
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Flexible on a hob is now not OK.


If I recall the argument correctly, what everyone else thinks of as a
flexible pipe is a rigid pipe in gas fitting terms as it has a metal
inner pipe?

J.
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