On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 21:11:46 +0000, PoP wrote:

On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 19:49:07 +0000, Andy Hall
wrote:

Just remember. Why does a dog lick its balls.........??

Err, dunno. However if you are suggesting you'll give me 500 notes to
lick a dogs balls, forget it. And I know this is the DIY forum but I'm
afraid I wouldn't be able to lick my own.....

Exacry. Because it can........


..andy

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On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 22:29:59 +0000, Andy Hall
wrote:

Exacry. Because it can........

Slightly related, but I was watching the Discovery animal program
yesterday morning ("watching" is an overstatement - I was flicking the
channels during breakfast and this caught my eye).

On it was featured a dog which had been involved in a car accident at
a young age - two legs had been amputated, both on the same side of
the body.

Incapacitated dog? Not on your life - this mutt was bounding around
like a normal dog, chasing balls etc. Someone forgot to tell it that
it couldn't walk or run.

About the only thing I could see this dog compromised by was when it
was passing a lamp post - it was a male dog and obviously cocking its
leg would have meant instant collapse. The program didn't explain what
happened in this situation.....

PoP

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guaranteed to reach me.

Hi,

Not a bad idea to get a quotation, then get in it writing, then get it
to include everything that needs to be done.

Don't leave anything to chance or assume anything!

cheers,
Pete.

On 4 Feb 2004 07:01:33 -0800, (RJ) wrote:

After all the advice here and elsewhere - we got a quote from plumber
for 500 + 250 labour + vat to replace with another unvented system
(ariston); and to DIY with thermal store was about 700 + bits + a few
new tools.

So - went with plumber.

Hmmm.

Never ever ever again. Not slagging off all plumbers as I'm sure you
guys aren't like this - but 20-30 visits to van (minimum) at slow
walking pace, and taking ages over doing anything - it gets put in in
8 hours - and I get charged 500 labour not 250.

WHAT!? Not really fair.

Oh - and do you need to be qualified to put it in? No offence to the
advice - but no - it was easily doable by a good DIYer. And the extra
tests for building regs and unvented systems? What test!?

1 - big label: "THIS MUST BE EARTHED" and an earth bolt underneath.
No cable...
2 - Tundish must be seen. (old one couldn't) - so he moved it so it
could be seen. Fair enough. Manual says "do not bend pipe or put in
any angles until 300mm from tundish). Mine is about 160mm
3 - Testing pressure valve and drainage? Never heard/saw it tested.
Guy never checked the exit pipework - I know because the back door was
locked.

But - he did tidy up after him and remove the old crap.

But why so slow!? Just to make a days job out of it IMO. *******.
I'mnot sure I could have done in the time he did - but I'm no expert!
I mean - it took 2 hours to drain the old tank. WHY!!!!? I know damn
well I could have done that in 10-20 mins!!

Rant over.

I've learned a lot (mainly from you guys here - many many thanks - but
also learned that some tradesman (and employees of big plumber
company) are a bunch of gits. Only go on recommendations from now on!

But job done - and no leaks!

RJ

(RJ) wrote in message . com...
Hi

My hot water cylinder is dripping, and to be honest, it looks pretty
dead - huge amounts of corrosion everywhere.

Sadly its not simple...

I've got a pressurised water system, and the cylinder is labelled
Polystel PS125 / 3 - with operating pressure of 3 bar. All the
pipework goes into the to of the cylinder through a metal cap that
looks like a beer bottle top. Its leaking from under there. The rust
is quite evident and obvious.

Photos of tank are at:-

http://www.ryanandmel.com/tank1.jpg and
http://www.ryanandmel.com/tank2.jpg

I have no idea if its direct or indirect (don't even know what this
means) - and as an avid DIY'er I know I can swap it for a like item.
However, I can find nothing at all on the web about this cylinder and
all the ones I can find have side entry pipes - which clearly isn't
what I'm looking for.

I've called 3 plumbers, and one can't quote for 3 weeks, one can't
speak to me till Monday and one isn't interested. Oh what a trade!
Any recommendations for plumbers in West Drayton/Uxbridge area
appreciated!

ANY HELP AT ALL is appreciated - this forum has been very helpful in
the past - so here's hoping!

Thanks!

RJ

In article , RJ
writes
But why so slow!? Just to make a days job out of it IMO. *******.
I'mnot sure I could have done in the time he did - but I'm no expert!
I mean - it took 2 hours to drain the old tank. WHY!!!!? I know damn
well I could have done that in 10-20 mins!!

It *can* take 2 hours or more to drain a tank. Local council plumbers on
piece work are not keen to take on element (side entry) replacement
tickets as a result because they get paid an hour and a half to replace
the element. They lose bonuses if they attend to a tank while draining
or have to leave several tanks draining unattended all over town.

If you have a way to siphon a tank quicker please share it with us.
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