Son (despair, despair) has put a fork through an underground water pipe.
He says the fountain was spectacular.

I remember the pipe in question - it is black and looks like ptfe, and
will have been installed in the '60's. When we had a previous leak at a
short exposed link, we found that the pipe was not a standard size and I
seem to remember finding a farming supplier in Wales who had some
fittings or adaptors, but I have no note of who or where they were.
Somewhere near Ruthin, I think.

For this reason we are loathe to cut and join the pipe. He was wondering
if there was some sort of adhesive that we could apply and then bind
with gaffer or other tape.

I found something online called Universal repair pack from Five Star
Adhesives in Runcorn, aka Starlok, but their site is out of date and
when I tried to make a Tinyurl, I got a refusal and warning of a spammed
site at

http://www.shop4glue.com/universal-g...r-pack-metal-a
ll-plastics-ptfe-polyethylene-polypropylene-silicone-81-p.asp

Has anyone any experience of this or similar product? Or trying to fix a
pipe in this way?
--
Bill

Bill wrote:
Son (despair, despair) has put a fork through an underground water
pipe. He says the fountain was spectacular.

I remember the pipe in question - it is black and looks like ptfe, and
will have been installed in the '60's. When we had a previous leak at
a short exposed link, we found that the pipe was not a standard size
and I seem to remember finding a farming supplier in Wales who had
some fittings or adaptors, but I have no note of who or where they
were. Somewhere near Ruthin, I think.

For this reason we are loathe to cut and join the pipe. He was
wondering if there was some sort of adhesive that we could apply and
then bind with gaffer or other tape.

I found something online called Universal repair pack from Five Star
Adhesives in Runcorn, aka Starlok, but their site is out of date and
when I tried to make a Tinyurl, I got a refusal and warning of a
spammed site at

http://www.shop4glue.com/universal-g...r-pack-metal-a
ll-plastics-ptfe-polyethylene-polypropylene-silicone-81-p.asp

Has anyone any experience of this or similar product? Or trying to
fix a pipe in this way?

You can't use tape over a water main, it won't last five minutes, and I'm
wary of any kind of sealant in an application like this.

Why not just get a couple of adapters and a small length of blue mdpe pipe
and join them together?

The adapters are about £3 each, you'll need two and a few feet of blue pipe:

http://www.drainagecentral.co.uk/MDP...FZAK0wod-24DUQ

Cheaper than the sealant that won't work.

"Phil L" wrote in message
...

Cheaper than the sealant that won't work.


+1

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Adam

Bill wrote:

I found something online called Universal repair pack from Five Star
Adhesives in Runcorn, aka Starlok, but their site is out of date and
when I tried to make a Tinyurl, I got a refusal and warning of a spammed
site at

http://www.shop4glue.com

No experience of that product, but have bought polyweld/mekweld from
them in the past, their webshop has been offline for years while they
"move factory" they're they only company I've known to use pay after
delivery ...

In message , Bill
writes
Son (despair, despair) has put a fork through an underground water
pipe. He says the fountain was spectacular.

I remember the pipe in question - it is black and looks like ptfe, and
will have been installed in the '60's. When we had a previous leak at a
short exposed link, we found that the pipe was not a standard size and
I seem to remember finding a farming supplier in Wales who had some
fittings or adaptors, but I have no note of who or where they were.
Somewhere near Ruthin, I think.

For this reason we are loathe to cut and join the pipe. He was
wondering if there was some sort of adhesive that we could apply and
then bind with gaffer or other tape.

I found something online called Universal repair pack from Five Star
Adhesives in Runcorn, aka Starlok, but their site is out of date and
when I tried to make a Tinyurl, I got a refusal and warning of a
spammed site at

http://www.shop4glue.com/universal-g...r-pack-metal-a
ll-plastics-ptfe-polyethylene-polypropylene-silicone-81-p.asp

Has anyone any experience of this or similar product? Or trying to fix
a pipe in this way?

No just use a Philmac coupler with the appropriate inserts.

Black alkathene used *Johnson fittings* (I think) when it was first
introduced.

--
Tim Lamb

In message , Tim Lamb
writes
Black alkathene used *Johnson fittings* (I think) when it was first
introduced.

Thanks to all. I have passed the various bits of info on.

I am not sure whether this outdoor pipe was a standard obsolete type.
Certainly, I remember trotting round a lot of plumbing suppliers with a
pipe end and a lot of shaking heads.

I know his plumber said the house plumbing used some peculiar
non-standard marine pipework.
--
Bill

On 7/30/2016 6:54 PM, ARW wrote:
"Phil L" wrote in message
...

Cheaper than the sealant that won't work.


+1

+2

(It won't be PTFE)

On Sat, 30 Jul 2016 18:39:43 +0100, Bill wrote:

Son (despair, despair) has put a fork through an underground water pipe.
He says the fountain was spectacular.

I remember the pipe in question - it is black and looks like ptfe, and
will have been installed in the '60's.

Alkathene was we called it when Dad dug another well and got it
connected circa 1966,



When we had a previous leak at a
short exposed link, we found that the pipe was not a standard size and I
seem to remember finding a farming supplier in Wales who had some
fittings or adaptors, but I have no note of who or where they were.
Somewhere near Ruthin, I think.

Could it have been these people .
http://www.pipekit.co.uk/
Though the term somewhere near can be subjective depending if you live
in the burbs or in the middle of Exmoor.


For this reason we are loathe to cut and join the pipe. He was wondering
if there was some sort of adhesive that we could apply and then bind
with gaffer or other tape.


Has anyone any experience of this or similar product? Or trying to fix a
pipe in this way?

yes , for a short term emergency while the proper bits were obtained
but on a pipe that could be shut off after use.

A repair that could be fitted and forgotten would take more effort
and cost more than using the right parts.

G.Harman

You need to identify the material. The stuff based on polyurethane had some
wonderful glue called urethane bond made I think by Dow Corning, but not
seen it lately. I assume this is feeding something of yours and not somebody
elses?
If its bodged the people it feeds will not be best pleased.
Brian

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"Bill" wrote in message
...
Son (despair, despair) has put a fork through an underground water pipe.
He says the fountain was spectacular.

I remember the pipe in question - it is black and looks like ptfe, and
will have been installed in the '60's. When we had a previous leak at a
short exposed link, we found that the pipe was not a standard size and I
seem to remember finding a farming supplier in Wales who had some fittings
or adaptors, but I have no note of who or where they were. Somewhere near
Ruthin, I think.

For this reason we are loathe to cut and join the pipe. He was wondering
if there was some sort of adhesive that we could apply and then bind with
gaffer or other tape.

I found something online called Universal repair pack from Five Star
Adhesives in Runcorn, aka Starlok, but their site is out of date and when
I tried to make a Tinyurl, I got a refusal and warning of a spammed site
at

http://www.shop4glue.com/universal-g...r-pack-metal-a
ll-plastics-ptfe-polyethylene-polypropylene-silicone-81-p.asp

Has anyone any experience of this or similar product? Or trying to fix a
pipe in this way?
--
Bill

On 31/07/16 09:54, Brian Gaff wrote:
You need to identify the material. The stuff based on polyurethane had some
wonderful glue called urethane bond made I think by Dow Corning, but not
seen it lately. I assume this is feeding something of yours and not somebody
elses?
If its bodged the people it feeds will not be best pleased.
Brian


What you need is modern blue pipe to effect the repair and two couplers
to the old pipe which is as you say of a different diameter

https://www.pipestock.com/mdpe/mdpe-...ersal-coupling


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En el artículo , Bill
escribió:

Has anyone any experience of this or similar product? Or trying to fix a
pipe in this way?

Bit of tyre rubber over the hole and one or two jubilee clips? Space
the screw thread parts apart so that you have the bands sited next to
each other covering the hole.

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On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 11:20:55 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

En el artÃ*culo , Bill
escribió:

Has anyone any experience of this or similar product? Or trying to fix a
pipe in this way?

Bit of tyre rubber over the hole and one or two jubilee clips? Space
the screw thread parts apart so that you have the bands sited next to
each other covering the hole.

Two Johnson couplings and a bit of pipe of a *similar* size.



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On Saturday, 30 July 2016 18:39:56 UTC+1, Bill wrote:
Son (despair, despair) has put a fork through an underground water pipe.
He says the fountain was spectacular.

I remember the pipe in question - it is black and looks like ptfe, and
will have been installed in the '60's. When we had a previous leak at a
short exposed link, we found that the pipe was not a standard size and I
seem to remember finding a farming supplier in Wales who had some
fittings or adaptors, but I have no note of who or where they were.
Somewhere near Ruthin, I think.

For this reason we are loathe to cut and join the pipe. He was wondering
if there was some sort of adhesive that we could apply and then bind
with gaffer or other tape.

I found something online called Universal repair pack from Five Star
Adhesives in Runcorn, aka Starlok, but their site is out of date and
when I tried to make a Tinyurl, I got a refusal and warning of a spammed
site at

http://www.shop4glue.com/universal-g...r-pack-metal-a
ll-plastics-ptfe-polyethylene-polypropylene-silicone-81-p.asp

Has anyone any experience of this or similar product? Or trying to fix a
pipe in this way?
--
Bill

It's polythene not PTFE.
It has a very thick wall compared to the HDPE (blue stuf) we use today.
An ordinary 22mm compression fitting will usually do the fix.

Bill wrote:

I found something online called Universal repair pack from Five Star
Adhesives in Runcorn, aka Starlok, but their site is out of date and
when I tried to make a Tinyurl, I got a refusal and warning of a spammed
site at

http://www.shop4glue.com/universal-g...r-pack-metal-a
ll-plastics-ptfe-polyethylene-polypropylene-silicone-81-p.asp

I have bought from them in the past, they're OK, but they've been using
excuses like moving factory for way too long for not having a working
web shop ... phone them maybe?