Just learned the term "cheese head" with regard to machine screws.

From Googling I think I need a couple of stainless steel M3 cheese head
machine screws 8mm long with matching lock nuts.

Searching for them, and reading the detailed measurement charts, has been
an eye opener. Loads of obscure but helpful detail, including the depth of
the slot and of the head.

However the sites I've found so far seem to deal in boxes of 1,000 (or 500
if I am lucky) which seems a waste as I only need 2.

Is there any supplier of machine screws which will sell them in small
quantities?

Google, as usual.....

Cheers


Dave R



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David wrote:
Just learned the term "cheese head" with regard to machine screws.

From Googling I think I need a couple of stainless steel M3 cheese head
machine screws 8mm long with matching lock nuts.

Searching for them, and reading the detailed measurement charts, has been
an eye opener. Loads of obscure but helpful detail, including the depth of
the slot and of the head.

However the sites I've found so far seem to deal in boxes of 1,000 (or 500
if I am lucky) which seems a waste as I only need 2.

Is there any supplier of machine screws which will sell them in small
quantities?

Google, as usual.....

Cheers


Dave R



Most of mine are Pan Head rather than a true cheese head.
If that will do and I have the length you want, I could pop a couple in
the post to you?

Bob

On 22/04/2016 13:49, Bob Minchin wrote:
David wrote:
Just learned the term "cheese head" with regard to machine screws.

From Googling I think I need a couple of stainless steel M3 cheese head
machine screws 8mm long with matching lock nuts.

Searching for them, and reading the detailed measurement charts, has been
an eye opener. Loads of obscure but helpful detail, including the
depth of
the slot and of the head.

However the sites I've found so far seem to deal in boxes of 1,000 (or
500
if I am lucky) which seems a waste as I only need 2.

Is there any supplier of machine screws which will sell them in small
quantities?

Google, as usual.....

Cheers


Dave R



Most of mine are Pan Head rather than a true cheese head.
If that will do and I have the length you want, I could pop a couple in
the post to you?

Bob

Ebay....take your pick.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_fr...ead&_saca t=0

On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 12:44:14 +0000, David wrote:

Just learned the term "cheese head" with regard to machine screws.

From Googling I think I need a couple of stainless steel M3 cheese head
machine screws 8mm long with matching lock nuts.

Searching for them, and reading the detailed measurement charts, has
been an eye opener. Loads of obscure but helpful detail, including the
depth of the slot and of the head.

However the sites I've found so far seem to deal in boxes of 1,000 (or
500 if I am lucky) which seems a waste as I only need 2.

Is there any supplier of machine screws which will sell them in small
quantities?

Google, as usual.....

Ach - if I look directly at Amazon there are loads of them.

I usually use Google because Amazon searches are so imprecise.

Haven't found the cheese head ones yet, but a set with Allen Key heads
looks O.K.

Cheers


Dave R


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On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 13:49:48 +0100, Bob Minchin wrote:

David wrote:
Just learned the term "cheese head" with regard to machine screws.

From Googling I think I need a couple of stainless steel M3 cheese
head
machine screws 8mm long with matching lock nuts.

Searching for them, and reading the detailed measurement charts, has
been an eye opener. Loads of obscure but helpful detail, including the
depth of the slot and of the head.

However the sites I've found so far seem to deal in boxes of 1,000 (or
500 if I am lucky) which seems a waste as I only need 2.

Is there any supplier of machine screws which will sell them in small
quantities?

Google, as usual.....

Cheers


Dave R



Most of mine are Pan Head rather than a true cheese head.
If that will do and I have the length you want, I could pop a couple in
the post to you?

Bob

Kind of you - however I think that I have managed to search successfully
and I have a reasonably large Amazon order on the chocks ready to fly.

Thanks


Dave R


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In article ,
David wrote:
Just learned the term "cheese head" with regard to machine screws.

From Googling I think I need a couple of stainless steel M3 cheese head
machine screws 8mm long with matching lock nuts.

Searching for them, and reading the detailed measurement charts, has
been an eye opener. Loads of obscure but helpful detail, including the
depth of the slot and of the head.

However the sites I've found so far seem to deal in boxes of 1,000 (or
500 if I am lucky) which seems a waste as I only need 2.

Is there any supplier of machine screws which will sell them in small
quantities?

Ebay may be the best source of smaller quantities. Only you can decide.

Cheese head in stainless seems unusual these days. Allen head might be a
good alternative and looks very good.

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On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 15:15:01 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
David wrote:
Just learned the term "cheese head" with regard to machine screws.

From Googling I think I need a couple of stainless steel M3 cheese head
machine screws 8mm long with matching lock nuts.

Searching for them, and reading the detailed measurement charts, has
been an eye opener. Loads of obscure but helpful detail, including the
depth of the slot and of the head.

However the sites I've found so far seem to deal in boxes of 1,000 (or
500 if I am lucky) which seems a waste as I only need 2.

Is there any supplier of machine screws which will sell them in small
quantities?

Ebay may be the best source of smaller quantities. Only you can decide.

Cheese head in stainless seems unusual these days. Allen head might be a
good alternative and looks very good.

I've managed to order a cheese head and an allen head option.

Allen would be my preference for ease of general tightening.

Cheers

Dave R


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I cannot believe you have never heard of cheese head screws. Surely this is
a common description for the normal square sided heads.

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"David" wrote in message
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Just learned the term "cheese head" with regard to machine screws.

From Googling I think I need a couple of stainless steel M3 cheese head
machine screws 8mm long with matching lock nuts.

Searching for them, and reading the detailed measurement charts, has been
an eye opener. Loads of obscure but helpful detail, including the depth of
the slot and of the head.

However the sites I've found so far seem to deal in boxes of 1,000 (or 500
if I am lucky) which seems a waste as I only need 2.

Is there any supplier of machine screws which will sell them in small
quantities?

Google, as usual.....

Cheers


Dave R



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To be honest, I had heard of it but assumed it related to the quality of
metal used. I.e. A synonym for a crap quality screw. ;-)

Tim

Brian Gaff wrote:
I cannot believe you have never heard of cheese head screws. Surely this is
a common description for the normal square sided heads.

Brian




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On 4/22/2016 2:03 PM, ss wrote:
On 22/04/2016 13:49, Bob Minchin wrote:
David wrote:

Bob

Ebay....take your pick.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_fr...ead&_saca t=0


Almost always my first port of call for ironmongery.

On Friday, 22 April 2016 14:44:17 UTC+2, David wrote:
Just learned the term "cheese head" with regard to machine screws.

From Googling I think I need a couple of stainless steel M3 cheese head
machine screws 8mm long with matching lock nuts.

Searching for them, and reading the detailed measurement charts, has been
an eye opener. Loads of obscure but helpful detail, including the depth of
the slot and of the head.

However the sites I've found so far seem to deal in boxes of 1,000 (or 500
if I am lucky) which seems a waste as I only need 2.

Is there any supplier of machine screws which will sell them in small
quantities?


If you are in, or near, Cambridge then Mackays will sell you machine screws
by the one. (Incidentally, contrary to common opinion, it *is* possible
to come up with a size of screw which Mackays don't stock; I have done so
- *once*!)

On Sat, 23 Apr 2016 10:46:40 -0700, Martin Bonner wrote:

On Friday, 22 April 2016 14:44:17 UTC+2, David wrote:
Just learned the term "cheese head" with regard to machine screws.

From Googling I think I need a couple of stainless steel M3 cheese head
machine screws 8mm long with matching lock nuts.

Searching for them, and reading the detailed measurement charts, has
been an eye opener. Loads of obscure but helpful detail, including the
depth of the slot and of the head.

However the sites I've found so far seem to deal in boxes of 1,000 (or
500 if I am lucky) which seems a waste as I only need 2.

Is there any supplier of machine screws which will sell them in small
quantities?


If you are in, or near, Cambridge then Mackays will sell you machine
screws by the one. (Incidentally, contrary to common opinion, it *is*
possible to come up with a size of screw which Mackays don't stock; I
have done so - *once*!)

Used to be Martin & Newby in Ipswich.
Yet another family firm to close down.

Killed by the Internet, I guess, because if you can find what you want on
eBay it is cheaper to buy there than travel to a real shop.

Until, of course, you need a 1923 left back handed knurd furgler.

Ah, well.

Dave R

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On Sat, 23 Apr 2016 08:36:48 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

I cannot believe you have never heard of cheese head screws. Surely this
is a common description for the normal square sided heads.

Brian

Surely this is a description known to those who have already encountered
them in a buying capacity?

Dangerous to assume that just because you know it then it is an obvious
fact universally acknowledged.

Now wondering if "cheese head" is because the head resembles a round of
cheese.


Cheers


Dave R


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Obviously some people here never had a Meccano set in their yoof when it was the real stuff produced by Hornby, the machine screws were cheese head and yes it is the shape of the head looking similar to a ful cheese.

Richard

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On Sat, 23 Apr 2016 10:46:40 -0700, Martin Bonner wrote:

On Friday, 22 April 2016 14:44:17 UTC+2, David wrote:
Just learned the term "cheese head" with regard to machine screws.

From Googling I think I need a couple of stainless steel M3 cheese head
machine screws 8mm long with matching lock nuts.

Searching for them, and reading the detailed measurement charts, has
been an eye opener. Loads of obscure but helpful detail, including the
depth of the slot and of the head.

However the sites I've found so far seem to deal in boxes of 1,000 (or
500 if I am lucky) which seems a waste as I only need 2.

Is there any supplier of machine screws which will sell them in small
quantities?


If you are in, or near, Cambridge then Mackays will sell you machine
screws by the one. (Incidentally, contrary to common opinion, it *is*
possible to come up with a size of screw which Mackays don't stock; I
have done so - *once*!)

Used to be Martin & Newby in Ipswich.
Yet another family firm to close down.

Killed by the Internet, I guess, because if you can find what you want on
eBay it is cheaper to buy there than travel to a real shop.

Until, of course, you need a 1923 left back handed knurd furgler.

Even if you do, it will likely be much easier to find one of those on ebay
too.

On 24/04/2016 13:38, Tricky Dicky wrote:
Obviously some people here never had a Meccano set in their yoof when
it was the real stuff produced by Hornby, the machine screws were
cheese head and yes it is the shape of the head looking similar to a
ful cheese.

Richard



Oh yes ... and the crappy screwdriver & spanner .......... but what fun
building. Wonder if its still going.

On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 17:17:59 +0100, rick wrote:

On 24/04/2016 13:38, Tricky Dicky wrote:
Obviously some people here never had a Meccano set in their yoof when
it was the real stuff produced by Hornby, the machine screws were
cheese head and yes it is the shape of the head looking similar to a
ful cheese.

Richard



Oh yes ... and the crappy screwdriver & spanner .......... but what fun
building. Wonder if its still going.

It is...although they have gone down the route that Lego took...you buy
'sets' to make something specific, most of the time.




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On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 17:17:59 +0100, rick wrote:
On 24/04/2016 13:38, Tricky Dicky wrote:
Obviously some people here never had a Meccano set in their yoof

Oh yes ... and the crappy screwdriver & spanner .......... but what fun
building. Wonder if its still going.

It is...although they have gone down the route that Lego took...you buy
'sets' to make something specific, most of the time.

I'm part way through the Eiffel Tower :-)
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On 10 Jun 2016 19:36:10 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:

On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 17:17:59 +0100, rick wrote:

On 24/04/2016 13:38, Tricky Dicky wrote:
Obviously some people here never had a Meccano set in their yoof


building. Wonder if its still going.

It is...although they have gone down the route that Lego took...you buy
'sets' to make something specific, most of the time.

Meccano had long down that route decades before with some items having
specific parts that were intended only for that Item.
Aeroplanes were popular,There was one of these knocking around at my
grans house that I used to play with,
http://www.alansmeccano.org/images/AeroConstuctor02.jpg
It had been my Uncles rather than my Fathers so it remained there.
Racing cars kits were also popular.

G.Harman

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Meccano had long down that route decades before with some items having
specific parts that were intended only for that Item.
Aeroplanes were popular
Racing cars kits were also popular.

Interstingly (oh yes it is), the original Hornby trains were also
Meccano style, in that they were nut and bolt construction although the
parts, much like the aeroplane and car constructor sets, were of use for
little else.

However, after that initial rush of blood to the head, Meccano was not
issued as kits for a specific purpose until many, many years later, with
themed sets introduced in the 1990s.

I always felt that both Lego and Meccano lost something when specific
kits were introduced, rather than boxes of parts with general
instructions for all manner of models. Must be my age though, as Lego
in particular seems to go from strength to strength.

Just as an aside, having been disposing of child's no longer used toys,
I noticed those that held their value were Playmobil and Lego, with Brio
et al a close third.
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On 13/06/2016 13:17, News wrote:

I always felt that both Lego and Meccano lost something when specific
kits were introduced, rather than boxes of parts with general
instructions for all manner of models. Must be my age though, as Lego
in particular seems to go from strength to strength.

Yeah - that particular boat sailed for lego over 40 years ago :-)

On Monday, 13 June 2016 13:22:09 UTC+1, News wrote:
In message ,
writes

Meccano had long down that route decades before with some items having
specific parts that were intended only for that Item.
Aeroplanes were popular
Racing cars kits were also popular.

Interstingly (oh yes it is), the original Hornby trains were also
Meccano style,

I thought they were invented by the same person.

in that they were nut and bolt construction although the
parts, much like the aeroplane and car constructor sets, were of use for
little else.

However, after that initial rush of blood to the head, Meccano was not
issued as kits for a specific purpose until many, many years later, with
themed sets introduced in the 1990s.

I'm sure there were cars and trains and all sorts of meccano sets in the 60s.
But few of teh bits were specific to that set.



I always felt that both Lego and Meccano lost something when specific
kits were introduced, rather than boxes of parts with general
instructions for all manner of models. Must be my age though, as Lego
in particular seems to go from strength to strength.

Here at uni we're holding the lego championships for schools

http://www.eecs.qmul.ac.uk/public-en...nt/lego-league
It;s more about programing the lego models to collect items hit stitches etc .


Just as an aside, having been disposing of child's no longer used toys,
I noticed those that held their value were Playmobil and Lego, with Brio
et al a close third.
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On Monday, 13 June 2016 13:22:09 UTC+1, News wrote:

Interstingly (oh yes it is), the original Hornby trains were also
Meccano style,

I thought they were invented by the same person.

They were indeed, and Dinky Toys. Frank Hornby. The vast majority of
Hornby tinplate trains were tab and slot construction, but very early 0
gauge models were nut and bolt, just like Meccano.

Here at uni we're holding the lego championships for schools

http://www.eecs.qmul.ac.uk/public-en...nt/lego-league
It;s more about programing the lego models to collect items hit stitches etc .

Yeah, Lego are light years ahead of Meccano in that respect. Meccano
have issued a couple of robots recently, but the stuff that can be done
with Lego now is mind blowing.
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 17:36:46 +0100, News wrote:

In message ,
whisky-dave writes
On Monday, 13 June 2016 13:22:09 UTC+1, News wrote:

Interstingly (oh yes it is), the original Hornby trains were also
Meccano style,

I thought they were invented by the same person.

They were indeed, and Dinky Toys. Frank Hornby. The vast majority of
Hornby tinplate trains were tab and slot construction, but very early 0
gauge models were nut and bolt, just like Meccano.

Here at uni we're holding the lego championships for schools

http://www.eecs.qmul.ac.uk/public-en...nt/lego-league
It;s more about programing the lego models to collect items hit
stitches etc .

Yeah, Lego are light years ahead of Meccano in that respect. Meccano
have issued a couple of robots recently, but the stuff that can be done
with Lego now is mind blowing.

I quite like K'nex. We have enough to build the roller coaster.



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On Monday, 13 June 2016 13:22:09 UTC+1, News wrote:
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Meccano had long down that route decades before with some items having
specific parts that were intended only for that Item.
Aeroplanes were popular
Racing cars kits were also popular.

Interstingly (oh yes it is), the original Hornby trains were also
Meccano style,

I thought they were invented by the same person.

Yep
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Hornby

in that they were nut and bolt construction although the
parts, much like the aeroplane and car constructor sets, were of use for
little else.

However, after that initial rush of blood to the head, Meccano was not
issued as kits for a specific purpose until many, many years later, with
themed sets introduced in the 1990s.

I'm sure there were cars and trains and all sorts of meccano sets in the
60s.
But few of teh bits were specific to that set.



I always felt that both Lego and Meccano lost something when specific
kits were introduced, rather than boxes of parts with general
instructions for all manner of models. Must be my age though, as Lego
in particular seems to go from strength to strength.

Here at uni we're holding the lego championships for schools

http://www.eecs.qmul.ac.uk/public-en...nt/lego-league
It;s more about programing the lego models to collect items hit stitches
etc .


Just as an aside, having been disposing of child's no longer used toys,
I noticed those that held their value were Playmobil and Lego, with Brio
et al a close third.

In message , Bob Eager
writes

Yeah, Lego are light years ahead of Meccano in that respect. Meccano
have issued a couple of robots recently, but the stuff that can be done
with Lego now is mind blowing.

I quite like K'nex. We have enough to build the roller coaster.

I am aware of K'nex, but have never used it. Son used it at school, but
for some odd reason didn't have a set at home. I have to confess, I was
never terribly proficient with Meccano, but did love Bayko.
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 10:04:14 +0100, News wrote:

In message , Bob Eager
writes

Yeah, Lego are light years ahead of Meccano in that respect. Meccano
have issued a couple of robots recently, but the stuff that can be
done with Lego now is mind blowing.

I quite like K'nex. We have enough to build the roller coaster.

I am aware of K'nex, but have never used it. Son used it at school, but
for some odd reason didn't have a set at home. I have to confess, I was
never terribly proficient with Meccano, but did love Bayko.

Oh yes, I had Bayko, but preferred Meccano. I ended up with at least a
No. 10 set. A friend did too, and we built seriously large things
together!

Bayko would never pass H&S these days.



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On 14/06/2016 10:04, News wrote:
In message , Bob Eager
writes

Yeah, Lego are light years ahead of Meccano in that respect. Meccano
have issued a couple of robots recently, but the stuff that can be done
with Lego now is mind blowing.

I quite like K'nex. We have enough to build the roller coaster.

I am aware of K'nex, but have never used it. Son used it at school, but
for some odd reason didn't have a set at home. I have to confess, I was
never terribly proficient with Meccano, but did love Bayko.

Its child abuse not having access to lego, meccano and knex, especially
for the girls.