I'm sure I've seen this asked and answered here here before but can't find
the answer. I want to attach a roller blind to a glazed uPVC door and am
uncomfortable about screwing the small metal fittings directly into the
plastic, bearing in mind the forces they will experience. Was considering
screwing them to a batten instead, and glueing that to the door; however
ISTR somebody here mentioning a bespoke plug method of attaching
rails/brackets etc to uPVC frames.

Am I imagining things or does something like that exist?

Thanks
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David

On 16/11/2015 12:46, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:38:58 GMT, Lobster
wrote:

I'm sure I've seen this asked and answered here here before but can't find
the answer. I want to attach a roller blind to a glazed uPVC door and am
uncomfortable about screwing the small metal fittings directly into the
plastic, bearing in mind the forces they will experience. Was considering
screwing them to a batten instead, and glueing that to the door; however
ISTR somebody here mentioning a bespoke plug method of attaching
rails/brackets etc to uPVC frames.

Am I imagining things or does something like that exist?

Thanks

Hasn't the door got a steel frame? Test it with a magnet? I had a
similar query when wanting to fix a security chain: what should I
screw it on to. But I was told that it had a steel frame, and to drill
pilot holes of the appropriate size in the appropriate places and use
self-tapping screws of the appropriate length. Worked out very well.
Very appropriate, in fact!

That's exactly what I did for my mum, many years ago.

On 16/11/2015 13:22, newshound wrote:
On 16/11/2015 12:46, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:38:58 GMT, Lobster
wrote:

I'm sure I've seen this asked and answered here here before but can't
find
the answer. I want to attach a roller blind to a glazed uPVC door and am
uncomfortable about screwing the small metal fittings directly into the
plastic, bearing in mind the forces they will experience. Was
considering
screwing them to a batten instead, and glueing that to the door; however
ISTR somebody here mentioning a bespoke plug method of attaching
rails/brackets etc to uPVC frames.

Am I imagining things or does something like that exist?

Thanks

Hasn't the door got a steel frame? Test it with a magnet? I had a
similar query when wanting to fix a security chain: what should I
screw it on to. But I was told that it had a steel frame, and to drill
pilot holes of the appropriate size in the appropriate places and use
self-tapping screws of the appropriate length. Worked out very well.
Very appropriate, in fact!

That's exactly what I did for my mum, many years ago.
If testing with magnet, do consider the frames maybe aluminium.

Your local UPVC hardware supplier should be able to supply appropriate screws, see below. I used some of the repair screws to re secure some handles and they are rock solid.

https://www.upvc-hardware.co.uk/screws-accessories

Richard

On 16/11/2015 13:22, newshound wrote:
On 16/11/2015 12:46, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:38:58 GMT, Lobster
wrote:

I'm sure I've seen this asked and answered here here before but can't
find
the answer. I want to attach a roller blind to a glazed uPVC door
and am
uncomfortable about screwing the small metal fittings directly into the
plastic, bearing in mind the forces they will experience. Was
considering
screwing them to a batten instead, and glueing that to the door; however
ISTR somebody here mentioning a bespoke plug method of attaching
rails/brackets etc to uPVC frames.

Am I imagining things or does something like that exist?

Thanks

Hasn't the door got a steel frame? Test it with a magnet? I had a
similar query when wanting to fix a security chain: what should I
screw it on to. But I was told that it had a steel frame, and to drill
pilot holes of the appropriate size in the appropriate places and use
self-tapping screws of the appropriate length. Worked out very well.
Very appropriate, in fact!

That's exactly what I did for my mum, many years ago.

Most screws bite like crazy into pvc providing you drill a small (2mm?)
pilot hole first, but self tappers are better if you have them. 10mm
are plenty long enough

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If its permanent, I'd not be too worried about drilling holes and using
small self tapping screws. My roller blind has been up for five years with
no problems. Its a Wilkinson's one.
Of course it goes without saying that you need to make small holes and do
not over tighten the screws. Most of the innards of the blind seems to be
held together with little self tapping screws into plastic, in my one and
nothing has cracked or stripped its threads.

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I'm sure I've seen this asked and answered here here before but can't find
the answer. I want to attach a roller blind to a glazed uPVC door and am
uncomfortable about screwing the small metal fittings directly into the
plastic, bearing in mind the forces they will experience. Was considering
screwing them to a batten instead, and glueing that to the door; however
ISTR somebody here mentioning a bespoke plug method of attaching
rails/brackets etc to uPVC frames.

Am I imagining things or does something like that exist?

Thanks
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David

On Monday, 16 November 2015 11:39:02 UTC, Lobster wrote:
I'm sure I've seen this asked and answered here here before but can't find
the answer. I want to attach a roller blind to a glazed uPVC door and am
uncomfortable about screwing the small metal fittings directly into the
plastic, bearing in mind the forces they will experience. Was considering
screwing them to a batten instead, and glueing that to the door; however
ISTR somebody here mentioning a bespoke plug method of attaching
rails/brackets etc to uPVC frames.

Am I imagining things or does something like that exist?

Thanks
--
David

Ensure that the roller clears the door frame when the door is at 90 degrees to the frame.

On 16/11/15 17:09, stuart noble wrote:
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Most screws bite like crazy into pvc providing you drill a small (2mm?)
pilot hole first, but self tappers are better if you have them. 10mm are
plenty long enough


Pilot holes? On this newsgroup? I thought most denizens used either a
big hammer or an impact driver. You'll be advocating clearance holes,
and countersinking, and round-head screws through metal next!

You're absolutely right about self-tappers or really, any modern
single-start woodscrew for upvc. I keep a gash,roughly re-sharpened
1/16 or thereabouts twist drill in an old hand drill for such piloting
purposes.

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replying to stvlcnc43, Not great at DIY but get by somehow! wrote:
I made this mistake but rectified it using 90" bracket and fixing blind
brackets downwards giving a further 2.5" of space to push back door further.

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